What's the best US options for books for the arsenal?
Since our leaders don't trust us with our own money we need a helping hand to guide us through the pile of trash to find half decent books to piece together a swiss army knife of an arsenal.
Obviously looking for good pricing, wide variety of live & selection of nearly any match. Wagering caps suck but are sadly a part of life in smaller markets. Please notate any caps you've encountered.
With each others help perhaps we can all benefit here through referral bonuses & learning new information.
Please share your books & pros & cons of each. Any non US books please notate.
I have been using:
5dimes : Best I've found line pricing wise almost 90% of the time. Trickier to locate matches quickly. Usually select all tennis > ctrl f to search name on page. Reduced juice on bigger matches. Smaller markets wager cap @ $100. Have to wait for line to change(always worse exponentially) before wagering again. Set spreads only available on bigger matches via Joe Blow in 2 sets Joe Blow not in 2 sets etc. Game spreads usually offered. Live wagering selection is pretty good but seemingly not as good as Bovada. I've encountered times when Bovada pricing on huge underdogs was lightyears better than 5d.
Nitrogen Sports : Haven't wagered here for awhile ever since they forgot to close lines on finished matches & they got taken to the woodshed. Wagering done in bitcoin & I lose track of the tiny & adorable itty bitty widdle decimal point increments & usually blow my wad. Matches are a pain in the ass to locate imo due to drop down menu of tournament & separate round links. They also keep completed round links up that say no matches available at this time. The saving grace is it has a starting soon link. Not sure what qualifies as soon. Set spreads offered & able to buy games. Never saw anything live worth a darn tootin' behind. Haven't got into bigger limits here but from what I recall it had nice limits listed next to each selection appears to range anywhere from 0.35 btc ($976) for smaller market to 4 btc ($11158) major market.
Bovada : the unfortunate necessary evil. I've heard recently someone got ripped here. It has poopy juice & pee pee for spreads. I've been red boxed & limited to 125. Gotta wait till line changes to re-wager & let me tell you that line swings fast & hard in the wrong direction almost every time. They have a better variety of live wagering which keeps me going back. Their site layout seemed like garbage when I first joined but now I like being able to just type in the search box & it quickly finds any match.
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What's the best US options for books for the arsenal?
Since our leaders don't trust us with our own money we need a helping hand to guide us through the pile of trash to find half decent books to piece together a swiss army knife of an arsenal.
Obviously looking for good pricing, wide variety of live & selection of nearly any match. Wagering caps suck but are sadly a part of life in smaller markets. Please notate any caps you've encountered.
With each others help perhaps we can all benefit here through referral bonuses & learning new information.
Please share your books & pros & cons of each. Any non US books please notate.
I have been using:
5dimes : Best I've found line pricing wise almost 90% of the time. Trickier to locate matches quickly. Usually select all tennis > ctrl f to search name on page. Reduced juice on bigger matches. Smaller markets wager cap @ $100. Have to wait for line to change(always worse exponentially) before wagering again. Set spreads only available on bigger matches via Joe Blow in 2 sets Joe Blow not in 2 sets etc. Game spreads usually offered. Live wagering selection is pretty good but seemingly not as good as Bovada. I've encountered times when Bovada pricing on huge underdogs was lightyears better than 5d.
Nitrogen Sports : Haven't wagered here for awhile ever since they forgot to close lines on finished matches & they got taken to the woodshed. Wagering done in bitcoin & I lose track of the tiny & adorable itty bitty widdle decimal point increments & usually blow my wad. Matches are a pain in the ass to locate imo due to drop down menu of tournament & separate round links. They also keep completed round links up that say no matches available at this time. The saving grace is it has a starting soon link. Not sure what qualifies as soon. Set spreads offered & able to buy games. Never saw anything live worth a darn tootin' behind. Haven't got into bigger limits here but from what I recall it had nice limits listed next to each selection appears to range anywhere from 0.35 btc ($976) for smaller market to 4 btc ($11158) major market.
Bovada : the unfortunate necessary evil. I've heard recently someone got ripped here. It has poopy juice & pee pee for spreads. I've been red boxed & limited to 125. Gotta wait till line changes to re-wager & let me tell you that line swings fast & hard in the wrong direction almost every time. They have a better variety of live wagering which keeps me going back. Their site layout seemed like garbage when I first joined but now I like being able to just type in the search box & it quickly finds any match.
Stay away from Bovada. I won $3500 from them and they did not pay and closed my account. They were fine taking money from me for years.
I remember you saying this in a recent thread & made a mental note of it. Cashed out small amounts a few times no prob. Plan to cash out every time I build up a small chunk.
Sorry to hear about your issue. It makes me sick using them but so far they're unfortunately one of the best US options for tennis. Hoping to get more bumps in this thread with better options from first hand experienced word of mouth users.
Have thought about using vpn for the best foreign books but about the time you win huge they'll blow the whistle & close account too. Such a poopy situation we're in here in the states. Illegal weed, prosts & no gambling. Land of puritan denial & the unsafe black market.
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Quote Originally Posted by SportsBettor13:
Stay away from Bovada. I won $3500 from them and they did not pay and closed my account. They were fine taking money from me for years.
I remember you saying this in a recent thread & made a mental note of it. Cashed out small amounts a few times no prob. Plan to cash out every time I build up a small chunk.
Sorry to hear about your issue. It makes me sick using them but so far they're unfortunately one of the best US options for tennis. Hoping to get more bumps in this thread with better options from first hand experienced word of mouth users.
Have thought about using vpn for the best foreign books but about the time you win huge they'll blow the whistle & close account too. Such a poopy situation we're in here in the states. Illegal weed, prosts & no gambling. Land of puritan denial & the unsafe black market.
Betdsi/bookmaker/justbet/galaxy sports (all cris sister books use same platform).. no challenger betting but other then that, props, first set second set, set betting, Ml's & spreads and live betting is offered unless he match is super early or super late. Plays are voided if matches aren't fully completed (except for set betting, i.e. Player A wins set one .. if players complete set one that will be graded).
I don't compare odds to other books so I wouldn't know how sharp their lines are but I usually compare them to bet365 odds if I'm curious enough to check. Definitely recommend.
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Betdsi/bookmaker/justbet/galaxy sports (all cris sister books use same platform).. no challenger betting but other then that, props, first set second set, set betting, Ml's & spreads and live betting is offered unless he match is super early or super late. Plays are voided if matches aren't fully completed (except for set betting, i.e. Player A wins set one .. if players complete set one that will be graded).
I don't compare odds to other books so I wouldn't know how sharp their lines are but I usually compare them to bet365 odds if I'm curious enough to check. Definitely recommend.
Lot's of Tennis wagerers on this forum. So, come on, what's the big secret, PLEASE, do us all a Huge solid.
Where do you place your wagers ? Please ! Help us ALL share the wealth. I'm sick of missing in on all the winners because I can't get down on a wager. Btw, I'm using Heritage and 5 Dimes. Still, to many times they don't carry Challenger matches or in game matches.
DaBreeze
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Lot's of Tennis wagerers on this forum. So, come on, what's the big secret, PLEASE, do us all a Huge solid.
Where do you place your wagers ? Please ! Help us ALL share the wealth. I'm sick of missing in on all the winners because I can't get down on a wager. Btw, I'm using Heritage and 5 Dimes. Still, to many times they don't carry Challenger matches or in game matches.
I feel like Bovada & 5dimes may have the best live options available for US residents with challenger & qualifiers as well as bigger matches obviously.
Anyone care to offer a differing opinion?
A betting exchange open to Americans would be lovely as well but likely wishful thinking.
I've been limited to $125 at Bovada live menu but lines change so often to reset limits it's not the end of the world. Haven't been noticeably capped at 5dimes yet. They seem to list their live wagering limits.
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I feel like Bovada & 5dimes may have the best live options available for US residents with challenger & qualifiers as well as bigger matches obviously.
Anyone care to offer a differing opinion?
A betting exchange open to Americans would be lovely as well but likely wishful thinking.
I've been limited to $125 at Bovada live menu but lines change so often to reset limits it's not the end of the world. Haven't been noticeably capped at 5dimes yet. They seem to list their live wagering limits.
I use Betonline. They don't usually have smaller name matches but I make good money on their live bets plus it is easy access and I have had no issues getting paid yet. It doesn't really matter who is playing as long as you're on the right side of the bet, right? Iwant Bet 365 too but will take what I can get. The only other one I was thinking about was Bookmaker or something like that as it has the better reviews. GL my friend!
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I use Betonline. They don't usually have smaller name matches but I make good money on their live bets plus it is easy access and I have had no issues getting paid yet. It doesn't really matter who is playing as long as you're on the right side of the bet, right? Iwant Bet 365 too but will take what I can get. The only other one I was thinking about was Bookmaker or something like that as it has the better reviews. GL my friend!
Good question.. I have been a casual small bettor for a couple years but 2017 I have turned it up.. I am in the usa/east coast and have been using carbon/sportsbook.ag but looking to find a better book. there lines are ok but don't offer all the smaller matches and leave out a lot of key matches. otherwise there software is easy to navigate and cashouts fast AF...
I'm looking for book with itf/challenger matches and good live betting options.
Currently debating between 5dimes and sportsbetting.. any thoughts?
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Good question.. I have been a casual small bettor for a couple years but 2017 I have turned it up.. I am in the usa/east coast and have been using carbon/sportsbook.ag but looking to find a better book. there lines are ok but don't offer all the smaller matches and leave out a lot of key matches. otherwise there software is easy to navigate and cashouts fast AF...
I'm looking for book with itf/challenger matches and good live betting options.
Currently debating between 5dimes and sportsbetting.. any thoughts?
All the best sportsbooks exclude Americans. Feel bad for you guys.
In Canada we can gamble on sports legally online anywhere we want to and even at the corner store through provincial lottery. Oh yeah and all our winnings are tax free. We have it so good and don't even realize it.
Wish i could help out my American friends. I wager at Pinnacle, Bet365, William Hill and The Greek. All great books, and all exclude American bettors.
Stay away from 5dimes. On the surface they look like your best available option but i've heard countless horror stories about them.
Good Luck
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All the best sportsbooks exclude Americans. Feel bad for you guys.
In Canada we can gamble on sports legally online anywhere we want to and even at the corner store through provincial lottery. Oh yeah and all our winnings are tax free. We have it so good and don't even realize it.
Wish i could help out my American friends. I wager at Pinnacle, Bet365, William Hill and The Greek. All great books, and all exclude American bettors.
Stay away from 5dimes. On the surface they look like your best available option but i've heard countless horror stories about them.
All the best sportsbooks exclude Americans. Feel bad for you guys.
In Canada we can gamble on sports legally online anywhere we want to and even at the corner store through provincial lottery. Oh yeah and all our winnings are tax free. We have it so good and don't even realize it.
Wish i could help out my American friends. I wager at Pinnacle, Bet365, William Hill and The Greek. All great books, and all exclude American bettors.
Stay away from 5dimes. On the surface they look like your best available option but i've heard countless horror stories about them.
Good Luck
Definitely seems like there are limited options over here. I will probably wait and research some more books..
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Quote Originally Posted by SamLangford:
All the best sportsbooks exclude Americans. Feel bad for you guys.
In Canada we can gamble on sports legally online anywhere we want to and even at the corner store through provincial lottery. Oh yeah and all our winnings are tax free. We have it so good and don't even realize it.
Wish i could help out my American friends. I wager at Pinnacle, Bet365, William Hill and The Greek. All great books, and all exclude American bettors.
Stay away from 5dimes. On the surface they look like your best available option but i've heard countless horror stories about them.
Good Luck
Definitely seems like there are limited options over here. I will probably wait and research some more books..
Want to reiterate: BUYER BEWARE @ 5dimes with credit card. I had multiple cards jeopardized. The lines & extra options make them a necessary evil though so BITCOIN ONLY is my recommendation.
Today I noticed that usual matches were frustratingly nowhere to be found on Bovada & 5dimes. Apparently they were still available @ Nitrogen. I will be depositing there again very soon.
Still hoping someday someone will grant the freedom to gamble to us poor souls in the USA. Until then we will have to scrimp & scrounge like the third world citizens we apparently are.
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Thanks for the input everyone.
Want to reiterate: BUYER BEWARE @ 5dimes with credit card. I had multiple cards jeopardized. The lines & extra options make them a necessary evil though so BITCOIN ONLY is my recommendation.
Today I noticed that usual matches were frustratingly nowhere to be found on Bovada & 5dimes. Apparently they were still available @ Nitrogen. I will be depositing there again very soon.
Still hoping someday someone will grant the freedom to gamble to us poor souls in the USA. Until then we will have to scrimp & scrounge like the third world citizens we apparently are.
I have a conspiracy theory for 5 d. They allow credit card deposits but make them insecure so clients have to cancel compromised cards. They do this in the hope that the client will destroy the compromised card. Then a few weeks, months, years down the line after said client has deposited with bitcoin only & requests a payout they will request mandatory copies of old compromised cards before processing withdrawal requests.
Long story short:
If you ever deposited there keep your old card so you can withdraw someday.
Fin aint lying about it being harder to get your money than it is to win it LMAO!
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I have a conspiracy theory for 5 d. They allow credit card deposits but make them insecure so clients have to cancel compromised cards. They do this in the hope that the client will destroy the compromised card. Then a few weeks, months, years down the line after said client has deposited with bitcoin only & requests a payout they will request mandatory copies of old compromised cards before processing withdrawal requests.
Long story short:
If you ever deposited there keep your old card so you can withdraw someday.
Fin aint lying about it being harder to get your money than it is to win it LMAO!
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You are aware that Sportsnet is 5 Dimes's baby. They were bought out in 2009. So, since we are all trying to tail Fin which book did you decide carries most of her ITF and challenger plays ? And allows live in match betting.
It seems that US books have one or the other rarely both.
DaBreeze
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You are aware that Sportsnet is 5 Dimes's baby. They were bought out in 2009. So, since we are all trying to tail Fin which book did you decide carries most of her ITF and challenger plays ? And allows live in match betting.
It seems that US books have one or the other rarely both.
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