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    FOR THOSE THAT ARE USING 5DIMES, I ASK YOU TO READ....

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    bevoaustintx
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 9:55 PM ET #1

    I believe I am a well respected "capper" in this forum, and so therefore I believe that maybe what I am about to say will garner some truths and some disbelief and maybe some other feelings.

    I have been with 5dimes for close to 7+ years I believe, and totally love how many options of sports I can choose from, from the regulars to the European Hockey and even some Handball and Rugby that I am somewhat good at.  Though I have read some recent complaints about their customer service skills, I have never been disrepected or made feel like I am a little minion giving money when I lose.  But this rant is not about their customer service skills or their sports options, rather it is about what happened today that will make me second guess this book, possibly, unless I am talked out of it.

    Those in here that I know I have wagered Tennis often, love doing so, and am quite good at it, though I may go months w/o wagering at times, when I arrive, I like to think I do so in style. There have been multiple times when I would start with a measley $100 and turn it into a nice few K, and maybe lose some of it, and get it right back, do a withdrawal and so on and so on.  It is used to be so easy to do a withdrawal, you would just go into the Cashier slot, select MG or WU and bam it is done, or go onto live chat and request.  Well now you have to physically talk to them, and it used to be there was an option for one free withdrawal a month regardless of the day, well now that is not the case.  It is still one a month, but it is only on Mondays and they cover the processing fees up to $40.00, which is neither here nor there.  I am setting this all up because of what did occur today that just made me, literally cry, and i am not ashamed to admit this as a 29 year old.

    For those of you that have heard of an IP address, you know that 5dimes, such as other books, uses this as a way to make sure your computer is the one placing bets for your own account and so on and so on, and this where the moral of the story begins.  I type this for my fellow Cover Tennis cappers to read, because I respect anyone that can lay down a thought on a given day that any Tennis player can prevail, and I consider most of you as loyal members and my forum friends, sounds gay but eh whatever lol.

    So what occured was this:

    I wake up this morning and have a nice high bankroll prior to work, countless nights now of going to bed at 2-4 am to wake up at 8 to get ready for work by 10, feeling sluggish and so on and so on but knowing i have money i can withdrawal when i choose or if i can have the patience wait till the proper free days.  I want you all to know that at close to 2:30 today, I called 5dimes to ask about placing wagers and they told me that my balance was $0.00, so obviously i was curious, spoke to customer service, and this is what they told me:

    Between the hours of 1 and 2 pm today, keep in mind I am at work in front of a computer that is all about taking phone calls to collect mortgages and nothing about gambling, my IP address went into the Casino and lost it all, and gentleman, i started to cry.  See i had this money in there, betting on a whim starting last week when Groth went on her run, because I had been out for about four months and hated winning on paper, to take care of several debts, small ones albeit but debts that would clear a lot of hassle.  Also some of the money, was going to go to my GF's set up for her engagement ring, and this is what hurt me the most. 

    I talked to Customer Service and they stated that how did they not know I was not doing it, I tried to plead to them and tell them that it was not me, that in fact only once in the years I have been with them had i actually been on the Casino, and gentleman, all they told me was all I could do was lock my account, and send in an ID when i was ready to play again, change my pw and so on and so on, and there you have how i lost a lot of  money today, not by the books lines, but by the books themselves. 

    I am not typing this for the sole purpose to get a hand out into my account, to say hey lets get together and help me, or anything, I am stating this because today, out of all the years of betting and researching, losing those bets when we should have and losing those we shouldnt, losing those that were winners and then bam suddenly they lost us tons, i am stating this because today for the first time I am officially sad about wagering with this book. 

    Dont get me wrong folks, anyone that says hey whats your 5dimes account number and we will throw money in there i wont say naw im good, but what im stating is that all of you seriously need to watch out if this occurs.  That an innocent time when i was at work making money, while my computer was shut down, my cat in his room, my dogs put up in the kennel, my GF at work, loses me tons.  Again i wont say what i lost, simply because to one person a ton is 100 and to other its well what some of you all lose in just one day and still are able to play an entire month or six straight lol, just stating this to vent, just stating that i am sad, and honestly, not sure if i ever want to use what i still think is one of the best books ever. 

    I will still, if you allow me, research and post what i like, please do not hesitate to ask me questions, as currently i do still post the FIBA World Championships for Women and Euro Hockey in those respected forums, and BP, i will be sending you a PM soon buddy.  Obviously, if it wasnt normal of a guy like me, i want opinions as to if this has happened before to you all, share if you must, vent if you must, sympathize if you must.

    Thanks for reading, HOOK EM HORNS!

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    I believe I am a well respected "capper" in this forum, and so therefore I believe that maybe what I am about to say will garner some truths and some disbelief and maybe some other feelings.

    I have been with 5dimes for close to 7+ years I believe, and totally love how many options of sports I can choose from, from the regulars to the European Hockey and even some Handball and Rugby that I am somewhat good at.  Though I have read some recent complaints about their customer service skills, I have never been disrepected or made feel like I am a little minion giving money when I lose.  But this rant is not about their customer service skills or their sports options, rather it is about what happened today that will make me second guess this book, possibly, unless I am talked out of it.

    Those in here that I know I have wagered Tennis often, love doing so, and am quite good at it, though I may go months w/o wagering at times, when I arrive, I like to think I do so in style. There have been multiple times when I would start with a measley $100 and turn it into a nice few K, and maybe lose some of it, and get it right back, do a withdrawal and so on and so on.  It is used to be so easy to do a withdrawal, you would just go into the Cashier slot, select MG or WU and bam it is done, or go onto live chat and request.  Well now you have to physically talk to them, and it used to be there was an option for one free withdrawal a month regardless of the day, well now that is not the case.  It is still one a month, but it is only on Mondays and they cover the processing fees up to $40.00, which is neither here nor there.  I am setting this all up because of what did occur today that just made me, literally cry, and i am not ashamed to admit this as a 29 year old.

    For those of you that have heard of an IP address, you know that 5dimes, such as other books, uses this as a way to make sure your computer is the one placing bets for your own account and so on and so on, and this where the moral of the story begins.  I type this for my fellow Cover Tennis cappers to read, because I respect anyone that can lay down a thought on a given day that any Tennis player can prevail, and I consider most of you as loyal members and my forum friends, sounds gay but eh whatever lol.

    So what occured was this:

    I wake up this morning and have a nice high bankroll prior to work, countless nights now of going to bed at 2-4 am to wake up at 8 to get ready for work by 10, feeling sluggish and so on and so on but knowing i have money i can withdrawal when i choose or if i can have the patience wait till the proper free days.  I want you all to know that at close to 2:30 today, I called 5dimes to ask about placing wagers and they told me that my balance was $0.00, so obviously i was curious, spoke to customer service, and this is what they told me:

    Between the hours of 1 and 2 pm today, keep in mind I am at work in front of a computer that is all about taking phone calls to collect mortgages and nothing about gambling, my IP address went into the Casino and lost it all, and gentleman, i started to cry.  See i had this money in there, betting on a whim starting last week when Groth went on her run, because I had been out for about four months and hated winning on paper, to take care of several debts, small ones albeit but debts that would clear a lot of hassle.  Also some of the money, was going to go to my GF's set up for her engagement ring, and this is what hurt me the most. 

    I talked to Customer Service and they stated that how did they not know I was not doing it, I tried to plead to them and tell them that it was not me, that in fact only once in the years I have been with them had i actually been on the Casino, and gentleman, all they told me was all I could do was lock my account, and send in an ID when i was ready to play again, change my pw and so on and so on, and there you have how i lost a lot of  money today, not by the books lines, but by the books themselves. 

    I am not typing this for the sole purpose to get a hand out into my account, to say hey lets get together and help me, or anything, I am stating this because today, out of all the years of betting and researching, losing those bets when we should have and losing those we shouldnt, losing those that were winners and then bam suddenly they lost us tons, i am stating this because today for the first time I am officially sad about wagering with this book. 

    Dont get me wrong folks, anyone that says hey whats your 5dimes account number and we will throw money in there i wont say naw im good, but what im stating is that all of you seriously need to watch out if this occurs.  That an innocent time when i was at work making money, while my computer was shut down, my cat in his room, my dogs put up in the kennel, my GF at work, loses me tons.  Again i wont say what i lost, simply because to one person a ton is 100 and to other its well what some of you all lose in just one day and still are able to play an entire month or six straight lol, just stating this to vent, just stating that i am sad, and honestly, not sure if i ever want to use what i still think is one of the best books ever. 

    I will still, if you allow me, research and post what i like, please do not hesitate to ask me questions, as currently i do still post the FIBA World Championships for Women and Euro Hockey in those respected forums, and BP, i will be sending you a PM soon buddy.  Obviously, if it wasnt normal of a guy like me, i want opinions as to if this has happened before to you all, share if you must, vent if you must, sympathize if you must.

    Thanks for reading, HOOK EM HORNS!

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 10:04 PM ET #2

    wow...i dont know what to say

    thats just the worst
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    wow...i dont know what to say

    thats just the worst
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 10:12 PM ET #3

    damn bevo, that sucks ass. you know that IP shit goes both ways. if they will give you the IP address where the bets came from you can find out who is on the other end of it. if nobody was on your computer, there is no way the IP address can match up, NO way. outside of some techie mirroring an address which i have heard of but never seen, all computers should be different. i don't personally use 5dimes but someone there should try to help you just for the PR alone. i would strongly suggest to them that, as a long time customer, it would be in there best interest to help you resolve this to your satisfaction sooner rather than later. the last thing they should want is people pulling money out because they are scared some asshole is going to bust them out from some 'random' computer. i'll be interested to see how this goes. i'm sorry you have to be involved with this shit and i wish you good luck.
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    damn bevo, that sucks ass. you know that IP shit goes both ways. if they will give you the IP address where the bets came from you can find out who is on the other end of it. if nobody was on your computer, there is no way the IP address can match up, NO way. outside of some techie mirroring an address which i have heard of but never seen, all computers should be different. i don't personally use 5dimes but someone there should try to help you just for the PR alone. i would strongly suggest to them that, as a long time customer, it would be in there best interest to help you resolve this to your satisfaction sooner rather than later. the last thing they should want is people pulling money out because they are scared some asshole is going to bust them out from some 'random' computer. i'll be interested to see how this goes. i'm sorry you have to be involved with this shit and i wish you good luck.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 10:19 PM ET #4

    Wow first time hearing something like that you sure you didnt tell someone your password or use an unsafe computer? Seems unusual that someone would hack into your account and waste your money. You need to find out the IP address of the computer that did it so you can pin point where it happened.

    As a 5dimes customer I've never had any problems and just went to western union today to pick up money I requested yesterday. Sorry to hear that story bro that was sad. Any story where a fellow gambler is cheated out of there money is horrible.
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    Wow first time hearing something like that you sure you didnt tell someone your password or use an unsafe computer? Seems unusual that someone would hack into your account and waste your money. You need to find out the IP address of the computer that did it so you can pin point where it happened.

    As a 5dimes customer I've never had any problems and just went to western union today to pick up money I requested yesterday. Sorry to hear that story bro that was sad. Any story where a fellow gambler is cheated out of there money is horrible.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 10:32 PM ET #5

    This is sickening to hear Bevo. Couple thoughts:

    Is probably a good idea for people to block casino play. The odds are horrible and the situation mentioned above are very much a horrible reality.

    By blocking it nobody can play even if they hack your account. Then the worst they can do is place wagers that might be caught before an event happens or at least has a chance to win.

    I am glad you posted this... its a good reality check for us to understand ways we can get screwed. Is always a chance they just took the money and blamed it on the other. What is stopping them really? Pressure them to give you IP's and data on the issue...also post this in the gaming industry forum and see if anyone there can help. Also contact SBR to see if they can be of assistance. good luck partner

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    This is sickening to hear Bevo. Couple thoughts:

    Is probably a good idea for people to block casino play. The odds are horrible and the situation mentioned above are very much a horrible reality.

    By blocking it nobody can play even if they hack your account. Then the worst they can do is place wagers that might be caught before an event happens or at least has a chance to win.

    I am glad you posted this... its a good reality check for us to understand ways we can get screwed. Is always a chance they just took the money and blamed it on the other. What is stopping them really? Pressure them to give you IP's and data on the issue...also post this in the gaming industry forum and see if anyone there can help. Also contact SBR to see if they can be of assistance. good luck partner

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 10:37 PM ET #6

    These guys may be able to help. They deal with a lot of horror stories and actually contact the books and investigate. Hope this helps... always read you threads. GL.

    https://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/

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    These guys may be able to help. They deal with a lot of horror stories and actually contact the books and investigate. Hope this helps... always read you threads. GL.

    https://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 11:03 PM ET #7

    ya you definitely want to check out sbr they should be able to help you
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    ya you definitely want to check out sbr they should be able to help you
     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2010 - 11:13 PM ET #8

    That's sickening to hear 

    Hope things get better for you bro!

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    That's sickening to hear 

    Hope things get better for you bro!

     
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    bevo, something similar happened to me a while back. I actually posted a thread about it in here saying whoever fucked with my 5dimes account better back the fuck off. I was sitting at my computer looking at placing bets and I noticed my balanced dropped even though I didn't submit a wager. When I went to pending bets, there was a bet showing that I hadn't even looked at. So I went back to the main page and my balance had dropped again. I called 5dimes and they said they would lock my account and gave me the IP address of the computer that accessed it. They had my IP address as well as the person who accessed it. I had to do all kinds of shit just to get access back to my account. Call them and see if they can find out what IP address did this. I got lucky as I had like $800 in my account and had already placed $600 in bets. They bet the same bet twice and it actually won me a hundred and change, but it was like a no score 1st inning. They didn't offer to reimburse me if they had lost and didn't take it when it won. I would call and try to talk to a manger or something. I hate it for you bud.
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    bevo, something similar happened to me a while back. I actually posted a thread about it in here saying whoever fucked with my 5dimes account better back the fuck off. I was sitting at my computer looking at placing bets and I noticed my balanced dropped even though I didn't submit a wager. When I went to pending bets, there was a bet showing that I hadn't even looked at. So I went back to the main page and my balance had dropped again. I called 5dimes and they said they would lock my account and gave me the IP address of the computer that accessed it. They had my IP address as well as the person who accessed it. I had to do all kinds of shit just to get access back to my account. Call them and see if they can find out what IP address did this. I got lucky as I had like $800 in my account and had already placed $600 in bets. They bet the same bet twice and it actually won me a hundred and change, but it was like a no score 1st inning. They didn't offer to reimburse me if they had lost and didn't take it when it won. I would call and try to talk to a manger or something. I hate it for you bud.
     
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    file a complaint at sbr you will get the money back 100%
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    file a complaint at sbr you will get the money back 100%
     
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    I cant believe what I just read ...

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    I cant believe what I just read ...

     
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    heard about this happpening to jarrett not too long ago with 5 dimes also...maybe not to this effect but he said on a post like a month ago this happened to him also.....5 dimes has not been one of my fav books cause i like to get the best bonuses i can .i keep my money in my account for awhile so i dont care about rollovers......one book that was good to me for a long time with lots of wagers to choose from is bet us but they started jerking me around to a point i dont even use them anymore...in fact,...i put my last deposit in a book this month and i said...if i lose im going to start putting my money in the stock market instead.....its risky but not anywhere close to as risky as sports wagers...i wish you the best bevo.....i hope you somehow find out who did it and get it back.....bol......as for me...you may see some opinions after this month but all ill be doing is putting my money away from this point and playing the contests on here.....i wish you the best
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    heard about this happpening to jarrett not too long ago with 5 dimes also...maybe not to this effect but he said on a post like a month ago this happened to him also.....5 dimes has not been one of my fav books cause i like to get the best bonuses i can .i keep my money in my account for awhile so i dont care about rollovers......one book that was good to me for a long time with lots of wagers to choose from is bet us but they started jerking me around to a point i dont even use them anymore...in fact,...i put my last deposit in a book this month and i said...if i lose im going to start putting my money in the stock market instead.....its risky but not anywhere close to as risky as sports wagers...i wish you the best bevo.....i hope you somehow find out who did it and get it back.....bol......as for me...you may see some opinions after this month but all ill be doing is putting my money away from this point and playing the contests on here.....i wish you the best
     
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    jesus christ man, thats the worst online betting story ive ever heard

    Maybe there is a way you can complain to the manager about this, you shouldn't be forced to lose money because of some ridiculous accident on their end.  Good luck to you with everything.  Seems like I need to withdraw from 5dimes soon. I've made about 1700 profit in the past 5 days.
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    jesus christ man, thats the worst online betting story ive ever heard

    Maybe there is a way you can complain to the manager about this, you shouldn't be forced to lose money because of some ridiculous accident on their end.  Good luck to you with everything.  Seems like I need to withdraw from 5dimes soon. I've made about 1700 profit in the past 5 days.
     
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    Sorry to read that.
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    That really sucks Bevo. I hope you get the money back some how.
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    I like your chances of getting your money back, but I am guessing that it won't be easy and time consuming. Go to SBR and file a case as soon as possible.

    Do you live in Austin btw? If you do and still play tennis let me know.

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    I like your chances of getting your money back, but I am guessing that it won't be easy and time consuming. Go to SBR and file a case as soon as possible.

    Do you live in Austin btw? If you do and still play tennis let me know.

     
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    Usually I would call you out and say you are full of it, but something like this happened to me there about 5 months ago and I really thought I was losing my mind. I am sure it wasn't close to what you lost so I feel for you brother.

    I hope you can get some of the money back if not all of it.

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    Usually I would call you out and say you are full of it, but something like this happened to me there about 5 months ago and I really thought I was losing my mind. I am sure it wasn't close to what you lost so I feel for you brother.

    I hope you can get some of the money back if not all of it.

    Good Luck

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ML-MONSTER:

    These guys may be able to help. They deal with a lot of horror stories and actually contact the books and investigate. Hope this helps... always read you threads. GL.

    https://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/

    thats right bro...put in a complaint immediately...
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    Quote Originally Posted by ML-MONSTER:

    These guys may be able to help. They deal with a lot of horror stories and actually contact the books and investigate. Hope this helps... always read you threads. GL.

    https://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbooks-industry/

    thats right bro...put in a complaint immediately...
     
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    Send Lou a PM and let him know what happened. the folks who run this forum may be able to help as well.

    Worth a shot

    You have been around a long time Bevo, the powers that be will try to help
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    Send Lou a PM and let him know what happened. the folks who run this forum may be able to help as well.

    Worth a shot

    You have been around a long time Bevo, the powers that be will try to help
     
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    I don't even know what to say, that's beyond sad.... I really hope you find a way to get your money back. There has to be someone with 5Dimes who can help you out. Or a connection a Mod here at covers has with them or something. Explore all options, don't give up
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    I don't even know what to say, that's beyond sad.... I really hope you find a way to get your money back. There has to be someone with 5Dimes who can help you out. Or a connection a Mod here at covers has with them or something. Explore all options, don't give up
     
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    the problem with ip addresses is that through several programs such as hotspot shield (but there are many more) you can hide your ip address and/or mask it. same goes for proxies, i use both to access some sites that are restricted or banned here.
    to give you an example sometimes live streaming slots can be limited to a certain number of users in a country and when the limit is reached nobody in that country can view the stream anymore, so i use hotspot shield or change proxies to result in another place and view the stream this alternative way.
    i mentioned this because i honestly doubt that through an ip address complaint you will get the matter solved, what i think would help is if you never played casino or if you played for a few bucks once in a while, this could prove that your account was hijacked by someone else since in 7 years such a thing never happened. 5dimes is a respected bookmaker and you said you have been there for many years so there must be something they can do for you, if not this is a huge red flag for anyone with money in there.
    anyway, what happened is horrible, i really feel for you.

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    the problem with ip addresses is that through several programs such as hotspot shield (but there are many more) you can hide your ip address and/or mask it. same goes for proxies, i use both to access some sites that are restricted or banned here.
    to give you an example sometimes live streaming slots can be limited to a certain number of users in a country and when the limit is reached nobody in that country can view the stream anymore, so i use hotspot shield or change proxies to result in another place and view the stream this alternative way.
    i mentioned this because i honestly doubt that through an ip address complaint you will get the matter solved, what i think would help is if you never played casino or if you played for a few bucks once in a while, this could prove that your account was hijacked by someone else since in 7 years such a thing never happened. 5dimes is a respected bookmaker and you said you have been there for many years so there must be something they can do for you, if not this is a huge red flag for anyone with money in there.
    anyway, what happened is horrible, i really feel for you.

     
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     YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

    ...Sad Story. But a reality check for all! I for one keep A LOT and I man A LOT of money on my book and I am in CONSTANT communication with my book at least 3 times a week, sometimes more. I have never had an issue as of yet (knock on wood) I am a computer guy by nature & I have been hacking & cracking for 20 years (still do), so I know all the ins and outs of every aspect of computing. IP Addresses, IP Configuring, and am a Master at IP Spoofing (Changing your IP Address to ANY IP ADDRESS you want to to any location you want, even other countries).

    No one can say what happened to you because we don't know. It sounds like you don't even know (or Maybe you do).

    My advice to all of you, no matter your level of play, stay in constant contact with your book, get an account manager that you can call personally, and he (or she) should be calling you as well just to check in on you or to shoot the shit, mine does. If they don't or won't, get rid of them. Every now and then, DRAIN YOUR ACCOUNT and make them call you back to beg for your business back. I do! About 3 times a year, every 4 months. You'll find out REAL QUICK what kind of book your dealing with if they won't let you drain your account and reload every so often.

    Keep your god dam computer firewalled!!! And GOOD! If you are banking or wagering on line with big money, you are NEVER 100% safe! N-E-V-E-R!! I have a tripple industrial grade fire wall system. Not only Software but hardware as well. Even I can't break into my system, I have tried! I even change my IP address periodically just because I can. It's all Bullshit about them not allowing you to make wagers from another IP Address. I wager from my phone, sports bars all over the country, I travel a lot. I'm logged in from all over the place, other computers, even other countries from time to time when I travel. Hell, even on the Cruise ships when we go on a cruise twice a year. So the IP Address excuse is untrue and LAME. P-R-O-T-E-C-T   Y-O-U-R-S-E-L-F !!!!! Log into your account 20 times a day and check you balance, your pending wagers, and give no one your password, not even your wife, your brother, your lawyer, your mother, your jealous girlfriend, or your dog! CHANGE YOUR FUCKING PASSWORD ON YOUR BOOK AT LEAST EVEREY 90 DAYS!!! If your book wont allow you to change your password GET RID OF THEM!!! THEY WORK FOR YOU! You can take your money elsewhere...

    This is money we're talking about people! And lots of it. The sports gaming industry handles BILLIONS OF YOUR DOLLARS EVERY YEAR.

    YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

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     YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

    ...Sad Story. But a reality check for all! I for one keep A LOT and I man A LOT of money on my book and I am in CONSTANT communication with my book at least 3 times a week, sometimes more. I have never had an issue as of yet (knock on wood) I am a computer guy by nature & I have been hacking & cracking for 20 years (still do), so I know all the ins and outs of every aspect of computing. IP Addresses, IP Configuring, and am a Master at IP Spoofing (Changing your IP Address to ANY IP ADDRESS you want to to any location you want, even other countries).

    No one can say what happened to you because we don't know. It sounds like you don't even know (or Maybe you do).

    My advice to all of you, no matter your level of play, stay in constant contact with your book, get an account manager that you can call personally, and he (or she) should be calling you as well just to check in on you or to shoot the shit, mine does. If they don't or won't, get rid of them. Every now and then, DRAIN YOUR ACCOUNT and make them call you back to beg for your business back. I do! About 3 times a year, every 4 months. You'll find out REAL QUICK what kind of book your dealing with if they won't let you drain your account and reload every so often.

    Keep your god dam computer firewalled!!! And GOOD! If you are banking or wagering on line with big money, you are NEVER 100% safe! N-E-V-E-R!! I have a tripple industrial grade fire wall system. Not only Software but hardware as well. Even I can't break into my system, I have tried! I even change my IP address periodically just because I can. It's all Bullshit about them not allowing you to make wagers from another IP Address. I wager from my phone, sports bars all over the country, I travel a lot. I'm logged in from all over the place, other computers, even other countries from time to time when I travel. Hell, even on the Cruise ships when we go on a cruise twice a year. So the IP Address excuse is untrue and LAME. P-R-O-T-E-C-T   Y-O-U-R-S-E-L-F !!!!! Log into your account 20 times a day and check you balance, your pending wagers, and give no one your password, not even your wife, your brother, your lawyer, your mother, your jealous girlfriend, or your dog! CHANGE YOUR FUCKING PASSWORD ON YOUR BOOK AT LEAST EVEREY 90 DAYS!!! If your book wont allow you to change your password GET RID OF THEM!!! THEY WORK FOR YOU! You can take your money elsewhere...

    This is money we're talking about people! And lots of it. The sports gaming industry handles BILLIONS OF YOUR DOLLARS EVERY YEAR.

    YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bevoaustintx:

    I believe I am a well respected "capper" in this forum, and so therefore I believe that maybe what I am about to say will garner some truths and some disbelief and maybe some other feelings.

    I have been with 5dimes for close to 7+ years I believe, and totally love how many options of sports I can choose from, from the regulars to the European Hockey and even some Handball and Rugby that I am somewhat good at.  Though I have read some recent complaints about their customer service skills, I have never been disrepected or made feel like I am a little minion giving money when I lose.  But this rant is not about their customer service skills or their sports options, rather it is about what happened today that will make me second guess this book, possibly, unless I am talked out of it.

    Those in here that I know I have wagered Tennis often, love doing so, and am quite good at it, though I may go months w/o wagering at times, when I arrive, I like to think I do so in style. There have been multiple times when I would start with a measley $100 and turn it into a nice few K, and maybe lose some of it, and get it right back, do a withdrawal and so on and so on.  It is used to be so easy to do a withdrawal, you would just go into the Cashier slot, select MG or WU and bam it is done, or go onto live chat and request.  Well now you have to physically talk to them, and it used to be there was an option for one free withdrawal a month regardless of the day, well now that is not the case.  It is still one a month, but it is only on Mondays and they cover the processing fees up to $40.00, which is neither here nor there.  I am setting this all up because of what did occur today that just made me, literally cry, and i am not ashamed to admit this as a 29 year old.

    For those of you that have heard of an IP address, you know that 5dimes, such as other books, uses this as a way to make sure your computer is the one placing bets for your own account and so on and so on, and this where the moral of the story begins.  I type this for my fellow Cover Tennis cappers to read, because I respect anyone that can lay down a thought on a given day that any Tennis player can prevail, and I consider most of you as loyal members and my forum friends, sounds gay but eh whatever lol.

    So what occured was this:

    I wake up this morning and have a nice high bankroll prior to work, countless nights now of going to bed at 2-4 am to wake up at 8 to get ready for work by 10, feeling sluggish and so on and so on but knowing i have money i can withdrawal when i choose or if i can have the patience wait till the proper free days.  I want you all to know that at close to 2:30 today, I called 5dimes to ask about placing wagers and they told me that my balance was $0.00, so obviously i was curious, spoke to customer service, and this is what they told me:

    Between the hours of 1 and 2 pm today, keep in mind I am at work in front of a computer that is all about taking phone calls to collect mortgages and nothing about gambling, my IP address went into the Casino and lost it all, and gentleman, i started to cry.  See i had this money in there, betting on a whim starting last week when Groth went on her run, because I had been out for about four months and hated winning on paper, to take care of several debts, small ones albeit but debts that would clear a lot of hassle.  Also some of the money, was going to go to my GF's set up for her engagement ring, and this is what hurt me the most. 

    I talked to Customer Service and they stated that how did they not know I was not doing it, I tried to plead to them and tell them that it was not me, that in fact only once in the years I have been with them had i actually been on the Casino, and gentleman, all they told me was all I could do was lock my account, and send in an ID when i was ready to play again, change my pw and so on and so on, and there you have how i lost a lot of  money today, not by the books lines, but by the books themselves. 

    I am not typing this for the sole purpose to get a hand out into my account, to say hey lets get together and help me, or anything, I am stating this because today, out of all the years of betting and researching, losing those bets when we should have and losing those we shouldnt, losing those that were winners and then bam suddenly they lost us tons, i am stating this because today for the first time I am officially sad about wagering with this book. 

    Dont get me wrong folks, anyone that says hey whats your 5dimes account number and we will throw money in there i wont say naw im good, but what im stating is that all of you seriously need to watch out if this occurs.  That an innocent time when i was at work making money, while my computer was shut down, my cat in his room, my dogs put up in the kennel, my GF at work, loses me tons.  Again i wont say what i lost, simply because to one person a ton is 100 and to other its well what some of you all lose in just one day and still are able to play an entire month or six straight lol, just stating this to vent, just stating that i am sad, and honestly, not sure if i ever want to use what i still think is one of the best books ever. 

    I will still, if you allow me, research and post what i like, please do not hesitate to ask me questions, as currently i do still post the FIBA World Championships for Women and Euro Hockey in those respected forums, and BP, i will be sending you a PM soon buddy.  Obviously, if it wasnt normal of a guy like me, i want opinions as to if this has happened before to you all, share if you must, vent if you must, sympathize if you must.

    Thanks for reading, HOOK EM HORNS!



    not sure if you have already mentioned to 5dimes that you may have thrown your account number out there or not but if you haven't told them this I wouldn't. They might construe this as an excuse that you were loose with your info and therefore are responsible for what happened. I posted a chat from them on here and didn't realize I verified my account number in the chat so it was on covers. About 5 days later was when my issue occurred. It has since been deleted, but still I felt like that was partially how they were able to do what they did.
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    I believe I am a well respected "capper" in this forum, and so therefore I believe that maybe what I am about to say will garner some truths and some disbelief and maybe some other feelings.

    I have been with 5dimes for close to 7+ years I believe, and totally love how many options of sports I can choose from, from the regulars to the European Hockey and even some Handball and Rugby that I am somewhat good at.  Though I have read some recent complaints about their customer service skills, I have never been disrepected or made feel like I am a little minion giving money when I lose.  But this rant is not about their customer service skills or their sports options, rather it is about what happened today that will make me second guess this book, possibly, unless I am talked out of it.

    Those in here that I know I have wagered Tennis often, love doing so, and am quite good at it, though I may go months w/o wagering at times, when I arrive, I like to think I do so in style. There have been multiple times when I would start with a measley $100 and turn it into a nice few K, and maybe lose some of it, and get it right back, do a withdrawal and so on and so on.  It is used to be so easy to do a withdrawal, you would just go into the Cashier slot, select MG or WU and bam it is done, or go onto live chat and request.  Well now you have to physically talk to them, and it used to be there was an option for one free withdrawal a month regardless of the day, well now that is not the case.  It is still one a month, but it is only on Mondays and they cover the processing fees up to $40.00, which is neither here nor there.  I am setting this all up because of what did occur today that just made me, literally cry, and i am not ashamed to admit this as a 29 year old.

    For those of you that have heard of an IP address, you know that 5dimes, such as other books, uses this as a way to make sure your computer is the one placing bets for your own account and so on and so on, and this where the moral of the story begins.  I type this for my fellow Cover Tennis cappers to read, because I respect anyone that can lay down a thought on a given day that any Tennis player can prevail, and I consider most of you as loyal members and my forum friends, sounds gay but eh whatever lol.

    So what occured was this:

    I wake up this morning and have a nice high bankroll prior to work, countless nights now of going to bed at 2-4 am to wake up at 8 to get ready for work by 10, feeling sluggish and so on and so on but knowing i have money i can withdrawal when i choose or if i can have the patience wait till the proper free days.  I want you all to know that at close to 2:30 today, I called 5dimes to ask about placing wagers and they told me that my balance was $0.00, so obviously i was curious, spoke to customer service, and this is what they told me:

    Between the hours of 1 and 2 pm today, keep in mind I am at work in front of a computer that is all about taking phone calls to collect mortgages and nothing about gambling, my IP address went into the Casino and lost it all, and gentleman, i started to cry.  See i had this money in there, betting on a whim starting last week when Groth went on her run, because I had been out for about four months and hated winning on paper, to take care of several debts, small ones albeit but debts that would clear a lot of hassle.  Also some of the money, was going to go to my GF's set up for her engagement ring, and this is what hurt me the most. 

    I talked to Customer Service and they stated that how did they not know I was not doing it, I tried to plead to them and tell them that it was not me, that in fact only once in the years I have been with them had i actually been on the Casino, and gentleman, all they told me was all I could do was lock my account, and send in an ID when i was ready to play again, change my pw and so on and so on, and there you have how i lost a lot of  money today, not by the books lines, but by the books themselves. 

    I am not typing this for the sole purpose to get a hand out into my account, to say hey lets get together and help me, or anything, I am stating this because today, out of all the years of betting and researching, losing those bets when we should have and losing those we shouldnt, losing those that were winners and then bam suddenly they lost us tons, i am stating this because today for the first time I am officially sad about wagering with this book. 

    Dont get me wrong folks, anyone that says hey whats your 5dimes account number and we will throw money in there i wont say naw im good, but what im stating is that all of you seriously need to watch out if this occurs.  That an innocent time when i was at work making money, while my computer was shut down, my cat in his room, my dogs put up in the kennel, my GF at work, loses me tons.  Again i wont say what i lost, simply because to one person a ton is 100 and to other its well what some of you all lose in just one day and still are able to play an entire month or six straight lol, just stating this to vent, just stating that i am sad, and honestly, not sure if i ever want to use what i still think is one of the best books ever. 

    I will still, if you allow me, research and post what i like, please do not hesitate to ask me questions, as currently i do still post the FIBA World Championships for Women and Euro Hockey in those respected forums, and BP, i will be sending you a PM soon buddy.  Obviously, if it wasnt normal of a guy like me, i want opinions as to if this has happened before to you all, share if you must, vent if you must, sympathize if you must.

    Thanks for reading, HOOK EM HORNS!



    not sure if you have already mentioned to 5dimes that you may have thrown your account number out there or not but if you haven't told them this I wouldn't. They might construe this as an excuse that you were loose with your info and therefore are responsible for what happened. I posted a chat from them on here and didn't realize I verified my account number in the chat so it was on covers. About 5 days later was when my issue occurred. It has since been deleted, but still I felt like that was partially how they were able to do what they did.
     
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    Posted: Sep. 24, 2010 - 9:21 AM ET #25

    Quote Originally Posted by bevoaustintx:

    I believe I am a well respected "capper" in this forum, and so therefore I believe that maybe what I am about to say will garner some truths and some disbelief and maybe some other feelings.

    I have been with 5dimes for close to 7+ years I believe, and totally love how many options of sports I can choose from, from the regulars to the European Hockey and even some Handball and Rugby that I am somewhat good at.  Though I have read some recent complaints about their customer service skills, I have never been disrepected or made feel like I am a little minion giving money when I lose.  But this rant is not about their customer service skills or their sports options, rather it is about what happened today that will make me second guess this book, possibly, unless I am talked out of it.

    Those in here that I know I have wagered Tennis often, love doing so, and am quite good at it, though I may go months w/o wagering at times, when I arrive, I like to think I do so in style. There have been multiple times when I would start with a measley $100 and turn it into a nice few K, and maybe lose some of it, and get it right back, do a withdrawal and so on and so on.  It is used to be so easy to do a withdrawal, you would just go into the Cashier slot, select MG or WU and bam it is done, or go onto live chat and request.  Well now you have to physically talk to them, and it used to be there was an option for one free withdrawal a month regardless of the day, well now that is not the case.  It is still one a month, but it is only on Mondays and they cover the processing fees up to $40.00, which is neither here nor there.  I am setting this all up because of what did occur today that just made me, literally cry, and i am not ashamed to admit this as a 29 year old.

    For those of you that have heard of an IP address, you know that 5dimes, such as other books, uses this as a way to make sure your computer is the one placing bets for your own account and so on and so on, and this where the moral of the story begins.  I type this for my fellow Cover Tennis cappers to read, because I respect anyone that can lay down a thought on a given day that any Tennis player can prevail, and I consider most of you as loyal members and my forum friends, sounds gay but eh whatever lol.

    So what occured was this:

    I wake up this morning and have a nice high bankroll prior to work, countless nights now of going to bed at 2-4 am to wake up at 8 to get ready for work by 10, feeling sluggish and so on and so on but knowing i have money i can withdrawal when i choose or if i can have the patience wait till the proper free days.  I want you all to know that at close to 2:30 today, I called 5dimes to ask about placing wagers and they told me that my balance was $0.00, so obviously i was curious, spoke to customer service, and this is what they told me:

    Between the hours of 1 and 2 pm today, keep in mind I am at work in front of a computer that is all about taking phone calls to collect mortgages and nothing about gambling, my IP address went into the Casino and lost it all, and gentleman, i started to cry.  See i had this money in there, betting on a whim starting last week when Groth went on her run, because I had been out for about four months and hated winning on paper, to take care of several debts, small ones albeit but debts that would clear a lot of hassle.  Also some of the money, was going to go to my GF's set up for her engagement ring, and this is what hurt me the most. 

    I talked to Customer Service and they stated that how did they not know I was not doing it, I tried to plead to them and tell them that it was not me, that in fact only once in the years I have been with them had i actually been on the Casino, and gentleman, all they told me was all I could do was lock my account, and send in an ID when i was ready to play again, change my pw and so on and so on, and there you have how i lost a lot of  money today, not by the books lines, but by the books themselves. 

    I am not typing this for the sole purpose to get a hand out into my account, to say hey lets get together and help me, or anything, I am stating this because today, out of all the years of betting and researching, losing those bets when we should have and losing those we shouldnt, losing those that were winners and then bam suddenly they lost us tons, i am stating this because today for the first time I am officially sad about wagering with this book. 

    Dont get me wrong folks, anyone that says hey whats your 5dimes account number and we will throw money in there i wont say naw im good, but what im stating is that all of you seriously need to watch out if this occurs.  That an innocent time when i was at work making money, while my computer was shut down, my cat in his room, my dogs put up in the kennel, my GF at work, loses me tons.  Again i wont say what i lost, simply because to one person a ton is 100 and to other its well what some of you all lose in just one day and still are able to play an entire month or six straight lol, just stating this to vent, just stating that i am sad, and honestly, not sure if i ever want to use what i still think is one of the best books ever. 

    I will still, if you allow me, research and post what i like, please do not hesitate to ask me questions, as currently i do still post the FIBA World Championships for Women and Euro Hockey in those respected forums, and BP, i will be sending you a PM soon buddy.  Obviously, if it wasnt normal of a guy like me, i want opinions as to if this has happened before to you all, share if you must, vent if you must, sympathize if you must.

    Thanks for reading, HOOK EM HORNS!

    Most people never do this, but changing your password is a must. You can wager from differt IP's, I do it amost every week. 

    But bottom line is someone has to have your password to do anything.  So unless someone called in and somehow "tricked" them into giving them your password.  Then someone close you to you knew your password or there is a backdoor on your computer.

    Do a complete scan with malwarebytes, from download.com ASAP and of course an updated virus program also.  Although actual virus' infections are almost nil now.  It's pretty much just malware out there now.  I will skip the pocket protector and black horned rimmed glasses explanation of the difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bevoaustintx:

    I believe I am a well respected "capper" in this forum, and so therefore I believe that maybe what I am about to say will garner some truths and some disbelief and maybe some other feelings.

    I have been with 5dimes for close to 7+ years I believe, and totally love how many options of sports I can choose from, from the regulars to the European Hockey and even some Handball and Rugby that I am somewhat good at.  Though I have read some recent complaints about their customer service skills, I have never been disrepected or made feel like I am a little minion giving money when I lose.  But this rant is not about their customer service skills or their sports options, rather it is about what happened today that will make me second guess this book, possibly, unless I am talked out of it.

    Those in here that I know I have wagered Tennis often, love doing so, and am quite good at it, though I may go months w/o wagering at times, when I arrive, I like to think I do so in style. There have been multiple times when I would start with a measley $100 and turn it into a nice few K, and maybe lose some of it, and get it right back, do a withdrawal and so on and so on.  It is used to be so easy to do a withdrawal, you would just go into the Cashier slot, select MG or WU and bam it is done, or go onto live chat and request.  Well now you have to physically talk to them, and it used to be there was an option for one free withdrawal a month regardless of the day, well now that is not the case.  It is still one a month, but it is only on Mondays and they cover the processing fees up to $40.00, which is neither here nor there.  I am setting this all up because of what did occur today that just made me, literally cry, and i am not ashamed to admit this as a 29 year old.

    For those of you that have heard of an IP address, you know that 5dimes, such as other books, uses this as a way to make sure your computer is the one placing bets for your own account and so on and so on, and this where the moral of the story begins.  I type this for my fellow Cover Tennis cappers to read, because I respect anyone that can lay down a thought on a given day that any Tennis player can prevail, and I consider most of you as loyal members and my forum friends, sounds gay but eh whatever lol.

    So what occured was this:

    I wake up this morning and have a nice high bankroll prior to work, countless nights now of going to bed at 2-4 am to wake up at 8 to get ready for work by 10, feeling sluggish and so on and so on but knowing i have money i can withdrawal when i choose or if i can have the patience wait till the proper free days.  I want you all to know that at close to 2:30 today, I called 5dimes to ask about placing wagers and they told me that my balance was $0.00, so obviously i was curious, spoke to customer service, and this is what they told me:

    Between the hours of 1 and 2 pm today, keep in mind I am at work in front of a computer that is all about taking phone calls to collect mortgages and nothing about gambling, my IP address went into the Casino and lost it all, and gentleman, i started to cry.  See i had this money in there, betting on a whim starting last week when Groth went on her run, because I had been out for about four months and hated winning on paper, to take care of several debts, small ones albeit but debts that would clear a lot of hassle.  Also some of the money, was going to go to my GF's set up for her engagement ring, and this is what hurt me the most. 

    I talked to Customer Service and they stated that how did they not know I was not doing it, I tried to plead to them and tell them that it was not me, that in fact only once in the years I have been with them had i actually been on the Casino, and gentleman, all they told me was all I could do was lock my account, and send in an ID when i was ready to play again, change my pw and so on and so on, and there you have how i lost a lot of  money today, not by the books lines, but by the books themselves. 

    I am not typing this for the sole purpose to get a hand out into my account, to say hey lets get together and help me, or anything, I am stating this because today, out of all the years of betting and researching, losing those bets when we should have and losing those we shouldnt, losing those that were winners and then bam suddenly they lost us tons, i am stating this because today for the first time I am officially sad about wagering with this book. 

    Dont get me wrong folks, anyone that says hey whats your 5dimes account number and we will throw money in there i wont say naw im good, but what im stating is that all of you seriously need to watch out if this occurs.  That an innocent time when i was at work making money, while my computer was shut down, my cat in his room, my dogs put up in the kennel, my GF at work, loses me tons.  Again i wont say what i lost, simply because to one person a ton is 100 and to other its well what some of you all lose in just one day and still are able to play an entire month or six straight lol, just stating this to vent, just stating that i am sad, and honestly, not sure if i ever want to use what i still think is one of the best books ever. 

    I will still, if you allow me, research and post what i like, please do not hesitate to ask me questions, as currently i do still post the FIBA World Championships for Women and Euro Hockey in those respected forums, and BP, i will be sending you a PM soon buddy.  Obviously, if it wasnt normal of a guy like me, i want opinions as to if this has happened before to you all, share if you must, vent if you must, sympathize if you must.

    Thanks for reading, HOOK EM HORNS!

    Most people never do this, but changing your password is a must. You can wager from differt IP's, I do it amost every week. 

    But bottom line is someone has to have your password to do anything.  So unless someone called in and somehow "tricked" them into giving them your password.  Then someone close you to you knew your password or there is a backdoor on your computer.

    Do a complete scan with malwarebytes, from download.com ASAP and of course an updated virus program also.  Although actual virus' infections are almost nil now.  It's pretty much just malware out there now.  I will skip the pocket protector and black horned rimmed glasses explanation of the difference.

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