but to think he is moving lines is very ignorant. Us 5000 nerds betting 20 to 1000 a game are not changing shit. a few legit players in vegas laying 500,000-2,000,000 on games is what changes lines. everyone just chill and ride the streak. amazing how people just freak out when they win too much.
lol well said
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Quote Originally Posted by KoRnHusker:
Sensei is the man and on fire.
but to think he is moving lines is very ignorant. Us 5000 nerds betting 20 to 1000 a game are not changing shit. a few legit players in vegas laying 500,000-2,000,000 on games is what changes lines. everyone just chill and ride the streak. amazing how people just freak out when they win too much.
Wrong and right. They do move FULL GAME lines 2-3 pts on players such as billy walters, spiro, russians plays but never on a halftime. That line did not drop 2 points because it never was at 75 or 73. Beantown at least post REAL LINES. Post your ticket of that bet.
Do you even know how they figure the second half totals out?
Do yu honestly think those guys are wagering on 2H plays? They put in the work and usually bet on the full game. You don't think that they know how to work that angle to so they can get a better line on a side. Say dropping 100K one way, get line movement, watch steams get released, then they come back with 300k the other way.
And yes, I can say the past 3-4 days I have watched the 2H line and seen the number drop 1.5-2 points as soon as this post comes out. So is it just a freaky thing or is there something to this? Been doing this for 20 years, so I think I have a pretty good understanding of how lines are put out.
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Quote Originally Posted by cjp22:
Wrong and right. They do move FULL GAME lines 2-3 pts on players such as billy walters, spiro, russians plays but never on a halftime. That line did not drop 2 points because it never was at 75 or 73. Beantown at least post REAL LINES. Post your ticket of that bet.
Do you even know how they figure the second half totals out?
Do yu honestly think those guys are wagering on 2H plays? They put in the work and usually bet on the full game. You don't think that they know how to work that angle to so they can get a better line on a side. Say dropping 100K one way, get line movement, watch steams get released, then they come back with 300k the other way.
And yes, I can say the past 3-4 days I have watched the 2H line and seen the number drop 1.5-2 points as soon as this post comes out. So is it just a freaky thing or is there something to this? Been doing this for 20 years, so I think I have a pretty good understanding of how lines are put out.
I will add one last thing, if you think Krese is a service trying to boost his record so he can get money for his picks, they bash away. But I'm pretty sure he is not, so take his pick and place a wager or cap your own games. If you don't like his number, don't play it. You think my local and the online numbers match? You think that when the Bears are -3.5 online that my local has the same number? I get up to 3 points difference from him. How do you know his local does not have guys who are taking overs and his line is different than the online sites? Are you new at this? Very rarely does my local and online books have the same numbers.
Good luck to you guys and have a good day. Off to enjoy the games than argue with the idiots who can't make a pick or have no money to play and are jealous they can't even tail a hot capper.....or worse yet, are books trying to throw you off your game.
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I will add one last thing, if you think Krese is a service trying to boost his record so he can get money for his picks, they bash away. But I'm pretty sure he is not, so take his pick and place a wager or cap your own games. If you don't like his number, don't play it. You think my local and the online numbers match? You think that when the Bears are -3.5 online that my local has the same number? I get up to 3 points difference from him. How do you know his local does not have guys who are taking overs and his line is different than the online sites? Are you new at this? Very rarely does my local and online books have the same numbers.
Good luck to you guys and have a good day. Off to enjoy the games than argue with the idiots who can't make a pick or have no money to play and are jealous they can't even tail a hot capper.....or worse yet, are books trying to throw you off your game.
Do yu honestly think those guys are wagering on 2H plays? They put in the work and usually bet on the full game. You don't think that they know how to work that angle to so they can get a better line on a side. Say dropping 100K one way, get line movement, watch steams get released, then they come back with 300k the other way.
And yes, I can say the past 3-4 days I have watched the 2H line and seen the number drop 1.5-2 points as soon as this post comes out. So is it just a freaky thing or is there something to this? Been doing this for 20 years, so I think I have a pretty good understanding of how lines are put out.
They definately don't wager2nd halves, thats for sure. They play with the lines all the time to get the number they want. I am sure you have a very good understanding i can tell in your posts. I am on the other side of the spectrum and have dealt with those sharps before. But i am pretty sure nobody on covers is moving any lines........
For the rest of you 2nd half total line = the first half total line + 10. give or take a half point
Duke first half 64 to 64.5.......2nd half line will open at 74 to 74.5 with half point movements for money wagered.
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Quote Originally Posted by OyVey:
Do yu honestly think those guys are wagering on 2H plays? They put in the work and usually bet on the full game. You don't think that they know how to work that angle to so they can get a better line on a side. Say dropping 100K one way, get line movement, watch steams get released, then they come back with 300k the other way.
And yes, I can say the past 3-4 days I have watched the 2H line and seen the number drop 1.5-2 points as soon as this post comes out. So is it just a freaky thing or is there something to this? Been doing this for 20 years, so I think I have a pretty good understanding of how lines are put out.
They definately don't wager2nd halves, thats for sure. They play with the lines all the time to get the number they want. I am sure you have a very good understanding i can tell in your posts. I am on the other side of the spectrum and have dealt with those sharps before. But i am pretty sure nobody on covers is moving any lines........
For the rest of you 2nd half total line = the first half total line + 10. give or take a half point
Duke first half 64 to 64.5.......2nd half line will open at 74 to 74.5 with half point movements for money wagered.
u have an imposter out there in the forum ,he created a thread with your name and pic
same kid who did it to me yesterday, go to the help forum and report it to the mods
....and here it begins, same old crap as usual and I am wrong ......
@Krese
So sorry to act like this, but this crap is just annoying. I quit posting here years ago because of it and so have others. Just hope you are better than I and keep doing what you do and get that $$$$$
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Quote Originally Posted by beantown6171:
u have an imposter out there in the forum ,he created a thread with your name and pic
same kid who did it to me yesterday, go to the help forum and report it to the mods
....and here it begins, same old crap as usual and I am wrong ......
@Krese
So sorry to act like this, but this crap is just annoying. I quit posting here years ago because of it and so have others. Just hope you are better than I and keep doing what you do and get that $$$$$
I will add one last thing, if you think Krese is a service trying to boost his record so he can get money for his picks, they bash away. But I'm pretty sure he is not, so take his pick and place a wager or cap your own games. If you don't like his number, don't play it. You think my local and the online numbers match? You think that when the Bears are -3.5 online that my local has the same number? I get up to 3 points difference from him. How do you know his local does not have guys who are taking overs and his line is different than the online sites? Are you new at this? Very rarely does my local and online books have the same numbers.
Good luck to you guys and have a good day. Off to enjoy the games than argue with the idiots who can't make a pick or have no money to play and are jealous they can't even tail a hot capper.....or worse yet, are books trying to throw you off your game.
All locals i know now are online at places like betez, eagle, click, etc. The locals lines fall in line with all the post up shops.
If you got a guy, who obviously still answering the phones or adjusts his lines manually through his website, then get me an account.......I'll even post up...not a problem
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Quote Originally Posted by OyVey:
I will add one last thing, if you think Krese is a service trying to boost his record so he can get money for his picks, they bash away. But I'm pretty sure he is not, so take his pick and place a wager or cap your own games. If you don't like his number, don't play it. You think my local and the online numbers match? You think that when the Bears are -3.5 online that my local has the same number? I get up to 3 points difference from him. How do you know his local does not have guys who are taking overs and his line is different than the online sites? Are you new at this? Very rarely does my local and online books have the same numbers.
Good luck to you guys and have a good day. Off to enjoy the games than argue with the idiots who can't make a pick or have no money to play and are jealous they can't even tail a hot capper.....or worse yet, are books trying to throw you off your game.
All locals i know now are online at places like betez, eagle, click, etc. The locals lines fall in line with all the post up shops.
If you got a guy, who obviously still answering the phones or adjusts his lines manually through his website, then get me an account.......I'll even post up...not a problem
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