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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2012 - 1:41 PM ET #1

    Not really "in love" with much this weekend at all. However, I do feel some of the totals are too chalk heavy and the wrong fighter is favored in the flyweight unification bout.

    Bolonti/Bellew over 8.5, +155, 4 units to win 6.2.
    Bolonti is SLOW. He isn't going to win rounds, probably does have a puncher's chance though. He looks the part of a big, durable guy in there though. Bellew gets into a habit of "slapping" arm punches at times and doesn't really turn up the heat as soon as he should against over matched opponents. I don't think he'll have to change that as he can score at will and box to a very comfortable, cautions win.

    Mack/Froch under 8.5, -240, 12 units to win 5.
    I don't think Mack is "in it to win it" at this point in his career. His chin is becoming increasingly fragile, and you really have to question his motivation. If Froch hurts him, he'll look for a soft place to land. Mack isn't a "blood and guts" type of fighter - he won't make much of a comeback. 

    Broner ITD, -160, 16 units to win 10. 
    This fight won't be competitive, whether or not Broner can actually stop him. DeMarco isn't busy enough to win rounds against Broner. He isn't very aggressive either. He'll probably be walked down and stopped in the second half of this fight. There are fighters that can give Broner a run for his money at or around lightweight, but DeMarco isn't one of them. 

    Johnathon Banks, +335, 4 units to win 13.4
    I don't like Seth Mitchell. Nice story? Sure. However, he is very limited technically and Witherspoon clearly showed he might not have a granite chin. That being said, if Banks hurts him he can certainly finish him. Also, the longer this fight goes the better it is for Banks and he is likely to outbox Mitchell for large portions of this fight.

     Is it possible he gets steamed purely from a physical standpoint? Absolutely, as that is what the line suggests. However, I think you'll get an honest effort from Banks tonight. 

    Hernan Marquez +120, 20 units to win 24. (favorite play tonight)
    The wrong guy is favored here, all the upside with the "dog." Marquez is training with Robert Garcia in Oxnard now. He's younger, stronger and has fought the better competition. It's simple - one fighter is on the way up, the other is on the way down.








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    Not really "in love" with much this weekend at all. However, I do feel some of the totals are too chalk heavy and the wrong fighter is favored in the flyweight unification bout.

    Bolonti/Bellew over 8.5, +155, 4 units to win 6.2.
    Bolonti is SLOW. He isn't going to win rounds, probably does have a puncher's chance though. He looks the part of a big, durable guy in there though. Bellew gets into a habit of "slapping" arm punches at times and doesn't really turn up the heat as soon as he should against over matched opponents. I don't think he'll have to change that as he can score at will and box to a very comfortable, cautions win.

    Mack/Froch under 8.5, -240, 12 units to win 5.
    I don't think Mack is "in it to win it" at this point in his career. His chin is becoming increasingly fragile, and you really have to question his motivation. If Froch hurts him, he'll look for a soft place to land. Mack isn't a "blood and guts" type of fighter - he won't make much of a comeback. 

    Broner ITD, -160, 16 units to win 10. 
    This fight won't be competitive, whether or not Broner can actually stop him. DeMarco isn't busy enough to win rounds against Broner. He isn't very aggressive either. He'll probably be walked down and stopped in the second half of this fight. There are fighters that can give Broner a run for his money at or around lightweight, but DeMarco isn't one of them. 

    Johnathon Banks, +335, 4 units to win 13.4
    I don't like Seth Mitchell. Nice story? Sure. However, he is very limited technically and Witherspoon clearly showed he might not have a granite chin. That being said, if Banks hurts him he can certainly finish him. Also, the longer this fight goes the better it is for Banks and he is likely to outbox Mitchell for large portions of this fight.

     Is it possible he gets steamed purely from a physical standpoint? Absolutely, as that is what the line suggests. However, I think you'll get an honest effort from Banks tonight. 

    Hernan Marquez +120, 20 units to win 24. (favorite play tonight)
    The wrong guy is favored here, all the upside with the "dog." Marquez is training with Robert Garcia in Oxnard now. He's younger, stronger and has fought the better competition. It's simple - one fighter is on the way up, the other is on the way down.








     
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    Posted: Nov. 17, 2012 - 5:37 PM ET #3

    Adding: Mack/Froch under, 4.8 units to win 2.
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    broner vs de marco OVER  7.5 rounds, if broner wants he can blow demarco out of the water, but I think he will be patient pick his shots early on, work the pit of demarco's stomach with the jab to the body and then step it up during the 2nd half of the fight eventually stopping de marco somewhere during the last 3 rounds.  beating a guy like broner who is elite level fast but also good defensively will take an A level fighter, to me demarco is B class.
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    broner vs de marco OVER  7.5 rounds, if broner wants he can blow demarco out of the water, but I think he will be patient pick his shots early on, work the pit of demarco's stomach with the jab to the body and then step it up during the 2nd half of the fight eventually stopping de marco somewhere during the last 3 rounds.  beating a guy like broner who is elite level fast but also good defensively will take an A level fighter, to me demarco is B class.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by thesoulpurpose:

    broner vs de marco OVER  7.5 rounds, if broner wants he can blow demarco out of the water, but I think he will be patient pick his shots early on, work the pit of demarco's stomach with the jab to the body and then step it up during the 2nd half of the fight eventually stopping de marco somewhere during the last 3 rounds.  beating a guy like broner who is elite level fast but also good defensively will take an A level fighter, to me demarco is B class.

    Exactly - and in probably every aspect too. 

    Adding: Gonzalez/Estrada under 6.5 rounds, +160, 5 units to win 8.
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    broner vs de marco OVER  7.5 rounds, if broner wants he can blow demarco out of the water, but I think he will be patient pick his shots early on, work the pit of demarco's stomach with the jab to the body and then step it up during the 2nd half of the fight eventually stopping de marco somewhere during the last 3 rounds.  beating a guy like broner who is elite level fast but also good defensively will take an A level fighter, to me demarco is B class.

    Exactly - and in probably every aspect too. 

    Adding: Gonzalez/Estrada under 6.5 rounds, +160, 5 units to win 8.
     
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    Bolonti/Bellew over 8.5, +155, 4 units to win 6.2. 
    Mack/Froch under 8.5, -240, 12 units to win 5. 
    Broner ITD, -160, 16 units to win 10 
    Johnathon Banks, +335, 4 units to win 13.4 
    Hernan Marquez +120, 20 units to win  
    Adding: Mack/Froch under, 4.8 units to win 2. 
    Adding: Gonzalez/Estrada under 6.5 rounds, +160, 5 units to win 8 

    +11.6 units on the night.
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    Bolonti/Bellew over 8.5, +155, 4 units to win 6.2. 
    Mack/Froch under 8.5, -240, 12 units to win 5. 
    Broner ITD, -160, 16 units to win 10 
    Johnathon Banks, +335, 4 units to win 13.4 
    Hernan Marquez +120, 20 units to win  
    Adding: Mack/Froch under, 4.8 units to win 2. 
    Adding: Gonzalez/Estrada under 6.5 rounds, +160, 5 units to win 8 

    +11.6 units on the night.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by cd2010:

      Great picks!

    Thanks, but the Marquez fight cost me way too much. Overall it was great, but I really dropped the ball on an important wager. He had his moments, was going to stop Viloria, punched himself out - got schooled and caught. Great fight though, but too much on a limb to ruin a great weekend.


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      Great picks!

    Thanks, but the Marquez fight cost me way too much. Overall it was great, but I really dropped the ball on an important wager. He had his moments, was going to stop Viloria, punched himself out - got schooled and caught. Great fight though, but too much on a limb to ruin a great weekend.


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