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    McNulty
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2010 - 2:38 AM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by SNOOPDEVILLE:

    are u guys kidding me??? Dirrel slipped, and took a shot. not a massive shot either. You can actually see him start to say, Oh man" and then he fell over and took the disqual. Don't get me wrong. He should be disqualified, But No way did Dirrel want anymore of Abraham. All he needed was 1 more round and dirrell was done.

    That knockdown from abraham. he was off balance.

    Bro...Abe was fighting dirty with that head under his arm and droppin body shots around the 4th...forget what round. Complaining about body shots that were legal. Dude got desperate and paid the price. Maybe that shit'll fly in Germany, but not here. What about the knockdown Cole didn't call at the end of the 7th? Ropes can't help you up...knockdown, period.

    Abraham's fundamentals are off and thats why he did the nestea plunge in the 4th. If he wasn't in trouble why was he running for the rest of the round?

    I used to box and hooks to the side of the chin do serious damage. I've knocked guys out on the street with left hooks so fucking hard they told the cops they got hit with a pipe...true story. 

    You can't bank on a guy winning in the last round. Abraham was starting to find his mark with the right hands I'll admit, but fighters adapt man. Abraham caught him with a few rights early in the fight and Andre adjusted. Just cuz you take a few doesn't mean its going to keep happening...thats why is called boxing.

    Reason I'm getting so hot is I'm sick and tired with the haters poppin off Dirrell is a runner, hugger, no chin...what have you. Dude showed big improvements in this fight. Watch the replay...his chin spun.


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    Quote Originally Posted by SNOOPDEVILLE:

    are u guys kidding me??? Dirrel slipped, and took a shot. not a massive shot either. You can actually see him start to say, Oh man" and then he fell over and took the disqual. Don't get me wrong. He should be disqualified, But No way did Dirrel want anymore of Abraham. All he needed was 1 more round and dirrell was done.

    That knockdown from abraham. he was off balance.

    Bro...Abe was fighting dirty with that head under his arm and droppin body shots around the 4th...forget what round. Complaining about body shots that were legal. Dude got desperate and paid the price. Maybe that shit'll fly in Germany, but not here. What about the knockdown Cole didn't call at the end of the 7th? Ropes can't help you up...knockdown, period.

    Abraham's fundamentals are off and thats why he did the nestea plunge in the 4th. If he wasn't in trouble why was he running for the rest of the round?

    I used to box and hooks to the side of the chin do serious damage. I've knocked guys out on the street with left hooks so fucking hard they told the cops they got hit with a pipe...true story. 

    You can't bank on a guy winning in the last round. Abraham was starting to find his mark with the right hands I'll admit, but fighters adapt man. Abraham caught him with a few rights early in the fight and Andre adjusted. Just cuz you take a few doesn't mean its going to keep happening...thats why is called boxing.

    Reason I'm getting so hot is I'm sick and tired with the haters poppin off Dirrell is a runner, hugger, no chin...what have you. Dude showed big improvements in this fight. Watch the replay...his chin spun.


     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2010 - 12:05 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by SNOOPDEVILLE:

    are u guys kidding me??? Dirrel slipped, and took a shot. not a massive shot either. You can actually see him start to say, Oh man" and then he fell over and took the disqual. Don't get me wrong. He should be disqualified, But No way did Dirrel want anymore of Abraham. All he needed was 1 more round and dirrell was done.

    That knockdown from abraham. he was off balance.

    Dirrell is a great actor.

     

    I hope there is a rematch.





    Your nuts, did you watch any of the post fight coverage.  The dude did not even know he won the fight.  He was trying to tell his corner, let me finish.  Then complaining about being hit late, and almost in tears because he thought he was robbed.  He CLEARLY had some serious concussion issues going on and was unsure what had happened even back in the locker 15-20 minutes later. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNOOPDEVILLE:

    are u guys kidding me??? Dirrel slipped, and took a shot. not a massive shot either. You can actually see him start to say, Oh man" and then he fell over and took the disqual. Don't get me wrong. He should be disqualified, But No way did Dirrel want anymore of Abraham. All he needed was 1 more round and dirrell was done.

    That knockdown from abraham. he was off balance.

    Dirrell is a great actor.

     

    I hope there is a rematch.





    Your nuts, did you watch any of the post fight coverage.  The dude did not even know he won the fight.  He was trying to tell his corner, let me finish.  Then complaining about being hit late, and almost in tears because he thought he was robbed.  He CLEARLY had some serious concussion issues going on and was unsure what had happened even back in the locker 15-20 minutes later. 
     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2010 - 12:56 PM ET #28

    I thought Dirrrell was fighting an excellent fight, better than I could have hoped for. I too became worried that AA was starting to find his range, but could also tell he was becoming extremely frustrated with Dirrell.

     I hope that Dirrell is not permanetly hurt from this incident. It did look like at first he may have been faking it ( which is plausible because he was fatiguing and wanted to end the fight) but as more time passed I think it was real pain.

     With all that being said, I can t wait for the next fight. I love this tournament and it was much better than the UFC that I watch simultaneously.

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    I thought Dirrrell was fighting an excellent fight, better than I could have hoped for. I too became worried that AA was starting to find his range, but could also tell he was becoming extremely frustrated with Dirrell.

     I hope that Dirrell is not permanetly hurt from this incident. It did look like at first he may have been faking it ( which is plausible because he was fatiguing and wanted to end the fight) but as more time passed I think it was real pain.

     With all that being said, I can t wait for the next fight. I love this tournament and it was much better than the UFC that I watch simultaneously.

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2010 - 1:13 PM ET #29

    McNulty, next time I am in the states bro lets have a Sparring session..You sound like my kind of man (In a non gay sense of course ). I never went pro, but I did win some Amateur titles, competing at national Level. I didn't have the McNulty one punch KO though. What I had was a crazy work rate and a cast iron jaw (never KO'd). Right now I am 175 but I can get to 168

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    McNulty, next time I am in the states bro lets have a Sparring session..You sound like my kind of man (In a non gay sense of course ). I never went pro, but I did win some Amateur titles, competing at national Level. I didn't have the McNulty one punch KO though. What I had was a crazy work rate and a cast iron jaw (never KO'd). Right now I am 175 but I can get to 168

    Turks and Caicos. Guys visit here...seriously awesome place

     
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    Posted: Mar. 28, 2010 - 2:35 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    McNulty, next time I am in the states bro lets have a Sparring session..You sound like my kind of man (In a non gay sense of course ). I never went pro, but I did win some Amateur titles, competing at national Level. I didn't have the McNulty one punch KO though. What I had was a crazy work rate and a cast iron jaw (never KO'd). Right now I am 175 but I can get to 168

    Turks and Caicos. Guys visit here...seriously awesome place


    I'd be into that. My street power is good, but ring power wasn't the same. I'm glad you posted because I wanted to get your opinion on...

    When I saw my sparring and competition footage I saw that my ring power was nothing like a pro level. Granted, when I competed in the g.gloves I was only training for 6 months so add that to the equation. 

    Anyway...what I'm getting at is couch side fans don't really understand how hard pro's really hit. What do you think about that? Do you have your stuff taped? If so, do you see what I'm saying about gauging power compared to a pro level?

    That uppercut Abraham landed was really a big old soup bone...plus with Dirrell being static add more power to the mix.

    I got some tapes of me and Pemberton sparring [98'-99'], but he was totally working with me. Big weight disadvantage though. I fought at jr midd [156 att] and Scott was fighting pro at 168 but was like 190 att. I held my own and had some spots where I looked pretty good, but wasn't exactly on his level.

    I only have one other session recorded against a guy who was my level. Thats a good one because my partner was pretty tough and I dominated...good amount of blood on his shirt. Once I get off my ass and hone a bit more video editing skills, I plan on making a highlight reel of my stuff. 

    I was never ko'd or dropped or even came close to being dropped in competition. I will admit I've been dropped sparring though...2x. The 1st time was against a guy who beat Joey Gamache in the ams' and was a dedicated sparring partner for the Chavez fight and a few others. He was roommates with Mike Tyson in the Nationals back in the day. It was my 1st sparring session and he was really seasoned so no biggy there. He didn't do too well in the pro's cuz he got caught up in the streets if you feel me. It was flash too, as soon as my butt hit I was back up. Last time we sparred I was being trained by Ray Oliveira and I got in his ass big time. In all honesty, he was old and toast, but for me it was a moral victory because of the insane sparring sessions we had over the years.

    The other came from a former pro [he actually turned me on to Covers] from Colorado who I've been friends with for over 20 years...another flash kd. He's sparred Stevie Johnston a few x. David Reid trained at his gym a lot. Most of my sparring was against guys who were much better than me. Looking back, I wouldn't have changed a thing because when I fought it was a breeze. I was like, wow...this is easy.

    If you got a myspace account you can see some pics and stuff I have up. Send me a pm if you have an account.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    McNulty, next time I am in the states bro lets have a Sparring session..You sound like my kind of man (In a non gay sense of course ). I never went pro, but I did win some Amateur titles, competing at national Level. I didn't have the McNulty one punch KO though. What I had was a crazy work rate and a cast iron jaw (never KO'd). Right now I am 175 but I can get to 168

    Turks and Caicos. Guys visit here...seriously awesome place


    I'd be into that. My street power is good, but ring power wasn't the same. I'm glad you posted because I wanted to get your opinion on...

    When I saw my sparring and competition footage I saw that my ring power was nothing like a pro level. Granted, when I competed in the g.gloves I was only training for 6 months so add that to the equation. 

    Anyway...what I'm getting at is couch side fans don't really understand how hard pro's really hit. What do you think about that? Do you have your stuff taped? If so, do you see what I'm saying about gauging power compared to a pro level?

    That uppercut Abraham landed was really a big old soup bone...plus with Dirrell being static add more power to the mix.

    I got some tapes of me and Pemberton sparring [98'-99'], but he was totally working with me. Big weight disadvantage though. I fought at jr midd [156 att] and Scott was fighting pro at 168 but was like 190 att. I held my own and had some spots where I looked pretty good, but wasn't exactly on his level.

    I only have one other session recorded against a guy who was my level. Thats a good one because my partner was pretty tough and I dominated...good amount of blood on his shirt. Once I get off my ass and hone a bit more video editing skills, I plan on making a highlight reel of my stuff. 

    I was never ko'd or dropped or even came close to being dropped in competition. I will admit I've been dropped sparring though...2x. The 1st time was against a guy who beat Joey Gamache in the ams' and was a dedicated sparring partner for the Chavez fight and a few others. He was roommates with Mike Tyson in the Nationals back in the day. It was my 1st sparring session and he was really seasoned so no biggy there. He didn't do too well in the pro's cuz he got caught up in the streets if you feel me. It was flash too, as soon as my butt hit I was back up. Last time we sparred I was being trained by Ray Oliveira and I got in his ass big time. In all honesty, he was old and toast, but for me it was a moral victory because of the insane sparring sessions we had over the years.

    The other came from a former pro [he actually turned me on to Covers] from Colorado who I've been friends with for over 20 years...another flash kd. He's sparred Stevie Johnston a few x. David Reid trained at his gym a lot. Most of my sparring was against guys who were much better than me. Looking back, I wouldn't have changed a thing because when I fought it was a breeze. I was like, wow...this is easy.

    If you got a myspace account you can see some pics and stuff I have up. Send me a pm if you have an account.
     
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    Actually I lied...make that 3x. Sandman caught me with a right hand rammer to the sternum which sent me down too. I was telling him before the session I couldn't be dropped to the body. So he had to prove me wrong. I got that one on tape. Knocked the wind right out of me. Worst pain ever, really feels like your dying in there. Took me a while to get up but I finished 2 more rounds.
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    Actually I lied...make that 3x. Sandman caught me with a right hand rammer to the sternum which sent me down too. I was telling him before the session I couldn't be dropped to the body. So he had to prove me wrong. I got that one on tape. Knocked the wind right out of me. Worst pain ever, really feels like your dying in there. Took me a while to get up but I finished 2 more rounds.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2010 - 10:11 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    Bro...Abe was fighting dirty with that head under his arm and droppin body shots around the 4th...forget what round. Complaining about body shots that were legal. Dude got desperate and paid the price. Maybe that shit'll fly in Germany, but not here. What about the knockdown Cole didn't call at the end of the 7th? Ropes can't help you up...knockdown, period.

    Abraham's fundamentals are off and thats why he did the nestea plunge in the 4th. If he wasn't in trouble why was he running for the rest of the round?

    I used to box and hooks to the side of the chin do serious damage. I've knocked guys out on the street with left hooks so fucking hard they told the cops they got hit with a pipe...true story. 

    You can't bank on a guy winning in the last round. Abraham was starting to find his mark with the right hands I'll admit, but fighters adapt man. Abraham caught him with a few rights early in the fight and Andre adjusted. Just cuz you take a few doesn't mean its going to keep happening...thats why is called boxing.

    Reason I'm getting so hot is I'm sick and tired with the haters poppin off Dirrell is a runner, hugger, no chin...what have you. Dude showed big improvements in this fight. Watch the replay...his chin spun.


     

    I love guys who say they boxed in the past. those are the clowns that fall the hardest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:

    Bro...Abe was fighting dirty with that head under his arm and droppin body shots around the 4th...forget what round. Complaining about body shots that were legal. Dude got desperate and paid the price. Maybe that shit'll fly in Germany, but not here. What about the knockdown Cole didn't call at the end of the 7th? Ropes can't help you up...knockdown, period.

    Abraham's fundamentals are off and thats why he did the nestea plunge in the 4th. If he wasn't in trouble why was he running for the rest of the round?

    I used to box and hooks to the side of the chin do serious damage. I've knocked guys out on the street with left hooks so fucking hard they told the cops they got hit with a pipe...true story. 

    You can't bank on a guy winning in the last round. Abraham was starting to find his mark with the right hands I'll admit, but fighters adapt man. Abraham caught him with a few rights early in the fight and Andre adjusted. Just cuz you take a few doesn't mean its going to keep happening...thats why is called boxing.

    Reason I'm getting so hot is I'm sick and tired with the haters poppin off Dirrell is a runner, hugger, no chin...what have you. Dude showed big improvements in this fight. Watch the replay...his chin spun.


     

    I love guys who say they boxed in the past. those are the clowns that fall the hardest.

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 31, 2010 - 6:33 AM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by SNOOPDEVILLE:

     

    I love guys who say they boxed in the past. those are the clowns that fall the hardest.


    Haven't lost a street fight since 87'. You got to be a lonely soul to be looking to drive an hour to get your ass beat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SNOOPDEVILLE:

     

    I love guys who say they boxed in the past. those are the clowns that fall the hardest.


    Haven't lost a street fight since 87'. You got to be a lonely soul to be looking to drive an hour to get your ass beat.
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