Another Boxing Gem for you

Mack realize Cloud  in his last fight against Gonzalez (this was the FIRST time he was taken past 5 rounds). We know Gonzalez has a granite chin.

Before that fight, Cloud fought basically sparring partners, even fought Reggie Strickland who is 66-272-17 (yes that's a REAL record).

Most of his fights were in Indiana/Illinois area yet CLOUD is a Florida NATIVE and only fought his debut in Florida.

That tell me he wants nothing to do with Florida based fighters. He did very well against Gonzalez, did everything but score the KO, but scored the TKO.

Realize Clinton woods is a STEP-UP granted even in his prime Clinton woods wasn't a world beater.

Realize he is NOT a BUM, he fought Glen Johnson 3 times, Tarver, and Roy Jones.

Yes he lost to Tarver on points which was a snooze fest. He didn't look horrific.

He has BEAT Glen Johnson TWICE, and a DRAW in on other.

I'm taking this from boxrec as I didn't see those fights, and I know Glen Johnson probably got robbed a few times as he always has.

Realize Glen Johnson is a very good fighter, if he can hold his own against Glen Johnson, this is a true step-up for Cloud.

I see Cloud winning also, he is catching Clinton woods at the end of his career.

I don't see any sportbook besides the one you said that has this at -250 the lowest line is -350 and goes up to -400.

So for the REST of us who cannot get this line are you still saying this is an easy winner at 4-1? Realize your odds don't reflect the odds we have so yes an -250 it's s steal.. isn't paddy's the same book that paid you for a loss on the OVER, when it went under?

How do they stay in business lol.  You stated they paid, but I checked their rules and they graded the Klitcho fight as an UNDER yet paid you for OVER.

I can see cloud winning a UD, or even a late stoppage. 

He's lives in Florida, the fight is in Florida, even if this is his step up he got a man on the decline not at his prime.

One thing that concerns me is this guy has only passed the 5th round once, at his age stamina shouldn't be an issue.

Please make your pick via the line that 99.9 of us get which is -350/-400.

Figured Glen Johnson got robbed at least once. I've see Glen get robbed so many times. It's why he is one of my most favorite fighters. He goes into the opponents backyard and never puts up a beef after he clearly won a fight.

Do you know which fight particularly  he got robbed in of the THREE with Woods? There's been so many :)

Oh without a doubt he wins, just the line you had was so good.. wish all of us could get in on that!.

I think he has an extra chip on his shoulder too, he was the mandatory for Chad Dawson and Dawson balked  the fight and took Glen Johnson instead.

Now we know Glen Johnson deserves this shot against Dawson, Dawson is a creep he  did a re-match with Tarver who he won EASILY over the first time, but skipped Johnson.

Then every media and public outlet ripped him apart because he ducked Glen Johnson. Now he fights Glen Johnson, but then skips over Cloud who was his Mandatory.

Sucks for Cloud as he could of been fighting for a title, at least he gets to show case his talents in the public eye on ESPN 2 which will be a large audience as this is their last broadcast of the year because of college football.

Probably better for Cloud that he takes a veteran opponent who will give him a few rounds that he desperately needs anyways. Then take on Dawson.

Also why did Cloud QUIT boxing after the Olympics?

I take it then you guys can't log onto paddypower.com and get these odds because of gambling laws in the States? Anyway I have put a hefty bet on this. -250 is an absolute gift

The British books are always going to have the best price on the American side of a fight like this one.

You are 100% correct!!

If you can get a UK Sportsbook, it is well worth it.

William Hill had Cloud at -175 until just a few day's ago.

He was still at -175 when 5 Dimes had Woods at +330!!!

Yeah Mack when congress changes their laws a few years back, most sites stopped taking U.S customers. They even made it hard to deposit, we had the luxury of many deposit options back then and was easy to gamble.

The greek and many others took a hit, but western union sometimes a "virtual pre paid visa" is the only way.

So basically it's paddypower saying "NO Yankees Allowed". I wish we could join that site they look very good and always good to have a few sports book to shop for lines.

Best of luck, I like Cloud also, but would like him at -250 LOL! :)

The luck of the Irish! :)



You got a great gift at -250.

I like Both Urango and Cloud tonight.

I believe the fight against Berto set both fighters back. Urango wasn't allowed to fight his style and Berto held all night.

Tonight Bailey will allow Urango to be the very aggressive open fighter he is.

Both Bailey and Woods at the end of their career, but as another one states neither are stiffs, just not at their peak.

I like the term gatekeeper :)

I look for Urango to really show what he has tonight.

Your book really forced you into a damn prop/under over bet as  -550 is crazy!

Good luck rooting for you to hit both!

I'm thinking about the O/U for Cloud.Woods. Any thoughts?

Actually...nix that. Seriously looking at Urango @ 2.6 to make 1. Not that big, but since I'm not super familiar with both fighters it'll be aight.

Fire on Urango :) JUST my opinion  regardless good luck

Just a quickie before everything starts.


Both guys are Florida fighters, and Fight is in Florida.

So if it does go the distance home town fighter will get it.

Probably why the lines are so inflated.

I find it weird Cloud is #1 rated as is on an UNDERCARD. Very unusual.

He went from Dawson's Mandatory challenger, to be an under card on the Urango fight.

Kudos to espn 2 for going out with a bang!