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    Diaz - Malinaggi

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    rjbodnar62
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2009 - 4:05 PM ET #1

    Thoughts?
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    To remove first post, remove entire topic.
    Thoughts?
     
    eldorado
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2009 - 5:34 PM ET #2

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    under
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2009 - 5:40 PM ET #3

    My first instinct is Diaz UD.
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    My first instinct is Diaz UD.
     
    Mack05
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2009 - 5:52 PM ET #4

    Diaz to win but odds are crap...no value in this
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    Diaz to win but odds are crap...no value in this
     
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    Posted: Aug. 19, 2009 - 10:19 PM ET #5

    no play
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    no play
     
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2009 - 3:34 PM ET #6

    Difficult to back either fighter in this case, especially Diaz coming off the KO loss to JMM.  I'd take a shot with PM.  He will win if Diaz comes in feeling like he has something to prove, and pressures.  PM can handle his pressure, and counter.  But someone tell me how this fight doesn't go the distance with these two pillow fighters?  The over looks like a slam dunk. 
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    Difficult to back either fighter in this case, especially Diaz coming off the KO loss to JMM.  I'd take a shot with PM.  He will win if Diaz comes in feeling like he has something to prove, and pressures.  PM can handle his pressure, and counter.  But someone tell me how this fight doesn't go the distance with these two pillow fighters?  The over looks like a slam dunk. 
     
    DannoDanger
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2009 - 5:44 PM ET #7

    Pretty good article here about the odds being stacked against Malinaggi.  It's going to be a really tough fight for him to win.  The ring is small, judges will be biased, and LAURENCE COLE is reffing. 
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    Pretty good article here about the odds being stacked against Malinaggi.  It's going to be a really tough fight for him to win.  The ring is small, judges will be biased, and LAURENCE COLE is reffing. 
     
    nuttyrich
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    Posted: Aug. 20, 2009 - 7:55 PM ET #8

    If I had to make a pick, oddly it would be Juan Diaz.. wait for it...

    By TKO!

    That's right two of boxing's biggest pillow punchers go at it. Juan Diaz looked VERY good until Marquez caught him. I have to give a lot of respect to Diaz, he came off the canvas and took his KO.

    Paulie is fading.. if this was 2006 when he fought Cotto, I could see Paulie winning a decision (as much as anyone can win in Houston,Texas)

    But reality is.. Paulie is NO where near what he was which was only 3 years ago..he is VERY hittable, his foot work is nearly gone also.

    Diaz  isn't a heavy puncher, but he does have  some POP. He is a volume puncher, but I believe Malignaggi  cannot take his pressure. Yes 3 years ago, but Paulie isn't the fighter he was.

    I believe Paulie is more of a stepping stone now for most fighters.

    Sort of like a Zab Juddah a "Gate Keeper".

    The price is way too high, Juan Diaz after a KO loss shouldn't be a 5 1/2 to 1 favorite.

    Both guys cut, Diaz has been stopped 2 out of his last 3 fights.

    Paulie has hand problems.. so the over.. isn't a sure thing.

    I personally wouldn't bet this fight, but if I was forced to pick someone it would be taking almost 2 to 1 for a ko/tko for Juan Diaz.

    I guess maybe $25 or something, honestly it's not worth even betting but this is how I see it.

    Juan Diaz KO/TKO ( as weird as it sounds).


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    If I had to make a pick, oddly it would be Juan Diaz.. wait for it...

    By TKO!

    That's right two of boxing's biggest pillow punchers go at it. Juan Diaz looked VERY good until Marquez caught him. I have to give a lot of respect to Diaz, he came off the canvas and took his KO.

    Paulie is fading.. if this was 2006 when he fought Cotto, I could see Paulie winning a decision (as much as anyone can win in Houston,Texas)

    But reality is.. Paulie is NO where near what he was which was only 3 years ago..he is VERY hittable, his foot work is nearly gone also.

    Diaz  isn't a heavy puncher, but he does have  some POP. He is a volume puncher, but I believe Malignaggi  cannot take his pressure. Yes 3 years ago, but Paulie isn't the fighter he was.

    I believe Paulie is more of a stepping stone now for most fighters.

    Sort of like a Zab Juddah a "Gate Keeper".

    The price is way too high, Juan Diaz after a KO loss shouldn't be a 5 1/2 to 1 favorite.

    Both guys cut, Diaz has been stopped 2 out of his last 3 fights.

    Paulie has hand problems.. so the over.. isn't a sure thing.

    I personally wouldn't bet this fight, but if I was forced to pick someone it would be taking almost 2 to 1 for a ko/tko for Juan Diaz.

    I guess maybe $25 or something, honestly it's not worth even betting but this is how I see it.

    Juan Diaz KO/TKO ( as weird as it sounds).


     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2009 - 1:37 AM ET #9

    I like Diaz KO or TKO here also

    Once he realizes that Malignaggi cant hurt him...Probably realizes that already he will just put pressure on him all night long

    Although Cotto didnt take out PM so who knows

    Diaz will win though , not betting it
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    I like Diaz KO or TKO here also

    Once he realizes that Malignaggi cant hurt him...Probably realizes that already he will just put pressure on him all night long

    Although Cotto didnt take out PM so who knows

    Diaz will win though , not betting it
     
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2009 - 5:08 AM ET #10

    I'm on Diaz and Diaz ITD. Having to cut an extra 1.5 pounds is not good for Paulie, and at this point Diaz has a lot more left in the tank. There's just no way Paulie can win the fight on the cards and having no power, I see no way he can win. Paulie is already trying to protest a bad decision and bogus refereeing, but I think he's stopped legitimately in the small ring.
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    I'm on Diaz and Diaz ITD. Having to cut an extra 1.5 pounds is not good for Paulie, and at this point Diaz has a lot more left in the tank. There's just no way Paulie can win the fight on the cards and having no power, I see no way he can win. Paulie is already trying to protest a bad decision and bogus refereeing, but I think he's stopped legitimately in the small ring.
     
    nuttyrich
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    Posted: Aug. 21, 2009 - 2:19 PM ET #11

    Yeah "Call 911 after the Fight" lol.

    To me icing on the cake is just watching his last few fights, his footwork isn't there anymore and he's very hittable.

    Now he doesn't do the quick combos anymore like he did against Cotto.

    Last straw was blaming Buddy McGirt for him sucking lol. Buddy may be a leech and not the best trainer, but buddy didn't make him fight bad.

    Would have been funny Paulie calling for a KO.

    I like Diaz to stop him also.

    Good luck to everyone.
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    Yeah "Call 911 after the Fight" lol.

    To me icing on the cake is just watching his last few fights, his footwork isn't there anymore and he's very hittable.

    Now he doesn't do the quick combos anymore like he did against Cotto.

    Last straw was blaming Buddy McGirt for him sucking lol. Buddy may be a leech and not the best trainer, but buddy didn't make him fight bad.

    Would have been funny Paulie calling for a KO.

    I like Diaz to stop him also.

    Good luck to everyone.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2009 - 3:07 PM ET #12

    Diaz will apply too much pressure for Paulie to withstand. Blaming Mcgirt for his own failings is not the classiest move. Hard to see Paulie winning this one. Diaz ... just the better man right now.
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    Diaz will apply too much pressure for Paulie to withstand. Blaming Mcgirt for his own failings is not the classiest move. Hard to see Paulie winning this one. Diaz ... just the better man right now.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2009 - 7:08 PM ET #13

    I concur with the majority.  Diaz will bring too much pressure and Paulie will fade.  I don't think his legs are there anymore and with his style he needs all the movement he can get.  I heard he was even buzzed in his last fight out against Fernandez.  Even though Diaz is carrying the extra weight in his moobs, he gets it done tonight in friendly confines.
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    I concur with the majority.  Diaz will bring too much pressure and Paulie will fade.  I don't think his legs are there anymore and with his style he needs all the movement he can get.  I heard he was even buzzed in his last fight out against Fernandez.  Even though Diaz is carrying the extra weight in his moobs, he gets it done tonight in friendly confines.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2009 - 7:33 PM ET #14

    I bit on Diaz ITD +210 myself.

    GL guys
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    I bit on Diaz ITD +210 myself.

    GL guys
     
    Fullbrights
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2009 - 7:38 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8:

    I bit on Diaz ITD +210 myself.

    GL guys


    I'm with you man.

    Good luck to us.


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    Quote Originally Posted by G8RB8:

    I bit on Diaz ITD +210 myself.

    GL guys


    I'm with you man.

    Good luck to us.


     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2009 - 11:04 PM ET #16

    Mack05 has gone with Diaz UD..Just a hunch. Low stakes
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    Mack05 has gone with Diaz UD..Just a hunch. Low stakes
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2009 - 11:05 PM ET #17

    Mack05 has gone with Diaz UD..Just a hunch. Low stakes
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    Mack05 has gone with Diaz UD..Just a hunch. Low stakes
     
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    Posted: Aug. 22, 2009 - 11:27 PM ET #18

    Whats the prop by UD?

    I think Paulie fades quickly, he will start out with a nice jab .. but he's pretty much a flat footed guy now... and very hittable.

    Two different styles here, but Given Diaz has lost to world Champions and Paulie lost to a washed up Hatton.. and Lovemore  N'dou hit him very flush and easily. Even his last fight that he won he got hit flush.

    Given Lovemore and Ricky Hatton's style.. (come forward) and Paulie cannot pedal on his feet that well anymore... Diaz puts more pressure on fighters than anyone I've seen (even more than Hatton and Lovemore).

    Yes Paulie is supposed to be the "bigger man" but at this stage in his life.. blaming everyone for his losses.. doesn't speak of a MAN speaks of a big baby.. surprised he didn't blame his mother or someone else.

    Paulie needs to blame his constantly broken hands.. which has caused him to take many shots, and also his reflex aren't what they used to be.

    I expect Paulie to snap the jab for a bit, cuts wouldn't be out of the question.

    Since I cannot justify the odds.. I have to go with Diaz taking almost 2/1 by tko/ko.

    This would be a small play, cannot see Paulie winning.. rather than Lay 6-1 on Diaz.. tiny play on Diaz by stoppage.

    UD is the clear pick, but I smell Paulie in here for a paycheck and Diaz to his credit doesn't let up.

    I don't think Paulie hits hard enough to "break" Diaz, and at 29 and on his way out- Paulie will take the paycheck.. just depends on hoq quickly he wants that check.

    As my previous pick as weird as it may seem.. Diaz by KO/TKO.

    Fights like this one shouldn't bet too much. Pretty much forced people into a "prop bet".
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    Whats the prop by UD?

    I think Paulie fades quickly, he will start out with a nice jab .. but he's pretty much a flat footed guy now... and very hittable.

    Two different styles here, but Given Diaz has lost to world Champions and Paulie lost to a washed up Hatton.. and Lovemore  N'dou hit him very flush and easily. Even his last fight that he won he got hit flush.

    Given Lovemore and Ricky Hatton's style.. (come forward) and Paulie cannot pedal on his feet that well anymore... Diaz puts more pressure on fighters than anyone I've seen (even more than Hatton and Lovemore).

    Yes Paulie is supposed to be the "bigger man" but at this stage in his life.. blaming everyone for his losses.. doesn't speak of a MAN speaks of a big baby.. surprised he didn't blame his mother or someone else.

    Paulie needs to blame his constantly broken hands.. which has caused him to take many shots, and also his reflex aren't what they used to be.

    I expect Paulie to snap the jab for a bit, cuts wouldn't be out of the question.

    Since I cannot justify the odds.. I have to go with Diaz taking almost 2/1 by tko/ko.

    This would be a small play, cannot see Paulie winning.. rather than Lay 6-1 on Diaz.. tiny play on Diaz by stoppage.

    UD is the clear pick, but I smell Paulie in here for a paycheck and Diaz to his credit doesn't let up.

    I don't think Paulie hits hard enough to "break" Diaz, and at 29 and on his way out- Paulie will take the paycheck.. just depends on hoq quickly he wants that check.

    As my previous pick as weird as it may seem.. Diaz by KO/TKO.

    Fights like this one shouldn't bet too much. Pretty much forced people into a "prop bet".
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2009 - 12:34 AM ET #19

    Juan Diaz Vs Malignaggi LIVE in HD
     
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    Juan Diaz Vs Malignaggi LIVE in HD
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2009 - 12:47 AM ET #20

    if these were neutral judges i'd say we were smelling an upset
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    if these were neutral judges i'd say we were smelling an upset
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2009 - 12:59 AM ET #21

    didn't bet it, but what  a JOKE!!

    I figured they'd screw Paulie over in the end, but UNANIMOUS???

    and they wonder why BOXINGS A JOKE NOW
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    didn't bet it, but what  a JOKE!!

    I figured they'd screw Paulie over in the end, but UNANIMOUS???

    and they wonder why BOXINGS A JOKE NOW
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2009 - 1:00 AM ET #22

    that was a f'n disgrace
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    that was a f'n disgrace
     
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    Posted: Aug. 23, 2009 - 1:02 AM ET #23

    so funny an hour ago you saw the bs coming, but you figured nahhh.

     boxings filled with crap like this.
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    so funny an hour ago you saw the bs coming, but you figured nahhh.

     boxings filled with crap like this.
     
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    as long as I win dont care care how it looks
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