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    Diaz & Malinaggi why?

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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2009 - 3:55 AM ET #1

    Juan Diaz why would you take this fight now? When you got exposed by Nate Campbell you were supposed to fight this light handed puncher, no instead you fight one of the best in Marquez and get destroyed.


    Every boxer after his first loss or a bad KO, needs an opponent like Malinaggi.. to build up his confidence.

    Whoever is managing this guy is a Moron, they are going in  reverse, you  fight Paulie or another light puncher  AFTER the Loss to Nate Campbell.
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    Juan Diaz why would you take this fight now? When you got exposed by Nate Campbell you were supposed to fight this light handed puncher, no instead you fight one of the best in Marquez and get destroyed.


    Every boxer after his first loss or a bad KO, needs an opponent like Malinaggi.. to build up his confidence.

    Whoever is managing this guy is a Moron, they are going in  reverse, you  fight Paulie or another light puncher  AFTER the Loss to Nate Campbell.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:

    Juan Diaz why would you take this fight now? When you got exposed by Nate Campbell you were supposed to fight this light handed puncher, no instead you fight one of the best in Marquez and get destroyed.


    Every boxer after his first loss or a bad KO, needs an opponent like Malinaggi.. to build up his confidence.

    Whoever is managing this guy is a Moron, they are going in  reverse, you  fight Paulie or another light puncher  AFTER the Loss to Nate Campbell.


    I think Diaz is in deep shit in this one. Remember how Diaz looked amateurish after having Marquez in trouble early in the fight once Marquez went to the body and started boxing? Well, we might have the same thing here.

    Malignaggi doesn't like pressure, and that is why Hatton was able to stop him. However, Hatton is about 100X better than Diaz, and much more pop. The problem here is that Malignaggi will be able to use that world class speed and boxing ability to school Diaz without ever really getting hurt. Paulie will also be in much better shape than Diaz, so this could really wind up being getting ugly.

    I'll be on Paulie, and probably very big.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:

    Juan Diaz why would you take this fight now? When you got exposed by Nate Campbell you were supposed to fight this light handed puncher, no instead you fight one of the best in Marquez and get destroyed.


    Every boxer after his first loss or a bad KO, needs an opponent like Malinaggi.. to build up his confidence.

    Whoever is managing this guy is a Moron, they are going in  reverse, you  fight Paulie or another light puncher  AFTER the Loss to Nate Campbell.


    I think Diaz is in deep shit in this one. Remember how Diaz looked amateurish after having Marquez in trouble early in the fight once Marquez went to the body and started boxing? Well, we might have the same thing here.

    Malignaggi doesn't like pressure, and that is why Hatton was able to stop him. However, Hatton is about 100X better than Diaz, and much more pop. The problem here is that Malignaggi will be able to use that world class speed and boxing ability to school Diaz without ever really getting hurt. Paulie will also be in much better shape than Diaz, so this could really wind up being getting ugly.

    I'll be on Paulie, and probably very big.
     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2009 - 10:18 AM ET #3

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:



    I think Diaz is in deep shit in this one. Remember how Diaz looked amateurish after having Marquez in trouble early in the fight once Marquez went to the body and started boxing? Well, we might have the same thing here.

    Malignaggi doesn't like pressure, and that is why Hatton was able to stop him. However, Hatton is about 100X better than Diaz, and much more pop. The problem here is that Malignaggi will be able to use that world class speed and boxing ability to school Diaz without ever really getting hurt. Paulie will also be in much better shape than Diaz, so this could really wind up being getting ugly.

    I'll be on Paulie, and probably very big.

    I have yet to see the odds,, again it's in HOUSTON.. getting tired of Diaz staying in houston.. and better yet LOSING twice in a row.

    He just didn't lose he got BROKEN.
    I must admit he did very well against Marquez, until Marquez adjusted, as the technician he is. The fight is at 135 but Paulie cannot weight more than 138 1/2 which shouldn't be a problem for him.

    Paulie  may not like pressure but he does well against it, Cotto he did very well against .,,Ndgou? I believe he did well against

    My main concern is Maligaggi's hands, he has never been the same fighter since the surgeries... Technically he's the better boxer.

    Diaz is a one dimensional  fighter come forward that's all he knows. He's fun to watch and I think he has tad bit more power than Paulie but I would like to see what condition  Paulie is come weigh in.

    Personally I think Juan Diaz's career is over. He's been broken down two times even if he was to win, it would still be suspect, many would say yeah you beat a paper punching guy.. big deal.

    Paulie can talk a good game and sell tickets just by his big mouth (got to love it) if Paulie can land combos like the old Paulie before the surgeries... he can win.. and let Juan Diaz enter law school early because the "baby bull"  will be 26 soon and guys like him don't get better.. they decline quickly.. with his fighting style.

    If Paulie comes in on his A game he will make Juan Diaz look like a retard as Diaz will just chase him and get pop shot all night.

    I still believe Juan Diaz needed a LIGHT puncher after that devastating loss to Nate.. now that Paulie lost to Hatton..  takes his stock down a ton.

    Remember the fight is in Houston AGAIN.. but the last two times it was HOUSTON we have a PROBLEM :-)
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    I think Diaz is in deep shit in this one. Remember how Diaz looked amateurish after having Marquez in trouble early in the fight once Marquez went to the body and started boxing? Well, we might have the same thing here.

    Malignaggi doesn't like pressure, and that is why Hatton was able to stop him. However, Hatton is about 100X better than Diaz, and much more pop. The problem here is that Malignaggi will be able to use that world class speed and boxing ability to school Diaz without ever really getting hurt. Paulie will also be in much better shape than Diaz, so this could really wind up being getting ugly.

    I'll be on Paulie, and probably very big.

    I have yet to see the odds,, again it's in HOUSTON.. getting tired of Diaz staying in houston.. and better yet LOSING twice in a row.

    He just didn't lose he got BROKEN.
    I must admit he did very well against Marquez, until Marquez adjusted, as the technician he is. The fight is at 135 but Paulie cannot weight more than 138 1/2 which shouldn't be a problem for him.

    Paulie  may not like pressure but he does well against it, Cotto he did very well against .,,Ndgou? I believe he did well against

    My main concern is Maligaggi's hands, he has never been the same fighter since the surgeries... Technically he's the better boxer.

    Diaz is a one dimensional  fighter come forward that's all he knows. He's fun to watch and I think he has tad bit more power than Paulie but I would like to see what condition  Paulie is come weigh in.

    Personally I think Juan Diaz's career is over. He's been broken down two times even if he was to win, it would still be suspect, many would say yeah you beat a paper punching guy.. big deal.

    Paulie can talk a good game and sell tickets just by his big mouth (got to love it) if Paulie can land combos like the old Paulie before the surgeries... he can win.. and let Juan Diaz enter law school early because the "baby bull"  will be 26 soon and guys like him don't get better.. they decline quickly.. with his fighting style.

    If Paulie comes in on his A game he will make Juan Diaz look like a retard as Diaz will just chase him and get pop shot all night.

    I still believe Juan Diaz needed a LIGHT puncher after that devastating loss to Nate.. now that Paulie lost to Hatton..  takes his stock down a ton.

    Remember the fight is in Houston AGAIN.. but the last two times it was HOUSTON we have a PROBLEM :-)
     
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    I'd love Paulie style wise, but he's got no pop. . . you pretty much know he's not going to win by KO, and every close round will go to Diaz.  Not sure Paulie has enough in his hands to win 7 rounds convincingly. He'd be worth a large dog play, but it probably won't be high enough for me to take a stab.  I bet the over in this fight will be juiced to piss too. . .  probably -250 or more.

    If you take Paulie, you might as well get a little bit more $ at the by dec prop


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    I'd love Paulie style wise, but he's got no pop. . . you pretty much know he's not going to win by KO, and every close round will go to Diaz.  Not sure Paulie has enough in his hands to win 7 rounds convincingly. He'd be worth a large dog play, but it probably won't be high enough for me to take a stab.  I bet the over in this fight will be juiced to piss too. . .  probably -250 or more.

    If you take Paulie, you might as well get a little bit more $ at the by dec prop


     
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    Posted: Jun. 28, 2009 - 8:20 PM ET #5

    I didn't know Hatton was better than anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LetMeSpin:

    I didn't know Hatton was better than anyone.


    With the right fighter Hatton WAS good, that's if he was allowed to hold and bully which in his country he was allowed to do.

    He was a brawler so it made for fun, but his outside life destroyed what very little boxing talent he had. In the end he wound up being a guy who was just aggressive not even throwing a jab to get in.

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    I didn't know Hatton was better than anyone.


    With the right fighter Hatton WAS good, that's if he was allowed to hold and bully which in his country he was allowed to do.

    He was a brawler so it made for fun, but his outside life destroyed what very little boxing talent he had. In the end he wound up being a guy who was just aggressive not even throwing a jab to get in.

     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2009 - 1:13 PM ET #7

    Doesn't Diaz go to school or something?  Doesn't he want to be a lawyer?  Does there come a point in his life when he has to choose between the two.  I mean, taking blows to the head surely can't help his legal career, where one needs all their marbles in tact.  Seriously, how many fights does this guy have in the tank, especially if he wants a career outside of boxing?  Just wondering.... 
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    Doesn't Diaz go to school or something?  Doesn't he want to be a lawyer?  Does there come a point in his life when he has to choose between the two.  I mean, taking blows to the head surely can't help his legal career, where one needs all their marbles in tact.  Seriously, how many fights does this guy have in the tank, especially if he wants a career outside of boxing?  Just wondering.... 
     
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    Posted: Jun. 29, 2009 - 3:41 PM ET #8

    diaz is not all there...u can tell by the way he walks in the ring that he doesnt push himself to the limit...im done betting on him...figuring the odd are gonna be high ill just lay off
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    diaz is not all there...u can tell by the way he walks in the ring that he doesnt push himself to the limit...im done betting on him...figuring the odd are gonna be high ill just lay off
     
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    I hate Malignagi     
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    Italiano or not   hes a clown
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    Quote Originally Posted by TorontoJoey:

    Italiano or not   hes a clown


    I used to hate him too.. I was like how can a guy who talks so much trash and has zero punching power be good.. well he proved me wrong once against Cotto he did an amazing job boxing both giving and taking.. yes it's a given he cannot crack an egg.. but he showed heart and I gained some respect for him.

    Seems after that fight.. he has bitched and moaned about his hands. I think what we saw against Cotto was the best he had to offer and he's never been the same since.

    I know Paulie cannot crack an egg.. but one thing for sure is he's not a quitter .. and has never been broken.

    Credit to Juan Diaz he's never quit, but he has been BROKEN twice.  Especially Nate because at that time HBO was touting Juan Diaz as unstoppable.. so Nate coming in at that age and giving him a beating.. was the "first" for Diaz.

    I still believe Paulie should have been his second fight coming back, NOT Marquez a Technical Boxer with Power. Paulie is Technical but he would make Juan Diaz look like the OLD  Juan Diaz a guy coming forward relentlessly.

    Yes Paulie may have won on points but in Houston.. the decision would have went to Diaz and Diaz would have SOME confidence back. While giving a very entertaining fight.

    At this time.. in their life.. I don't see why this fight is being made. Both fighters reached their peak a while ago, Paulie had his chances and didn't win, did well in some but didn't win.

    Juan Diaz after being demolished by his last 2 foes, has nothing to gain except some money. Let's be realistic if Paulie had a punch, how much of a chance would Juan Diaz have? Would Juan Diaz even take this fight?

    I don't see this as a crossroads fight, actually their roads are connected both headed south, guess that would mean Paulie winds up in Mexico.. with Juan Diaz :) 

    Juan Diaz loses he retires, which is fine he made some good money, he has plans outside of boxing. Paulie win or lose, unless he gets KO'd will still make money as a gatekeeper and is a good opponent for any boxer/puncher looking to get a few rounds in and getting a "name" under their resume. 

    I would say Odds would be -190 -200 range for Diaz.  I'm still thinking if I would even touch this fight.. unless Vegas blows this line up.. to -300 hard to find value in either guy unless a juicy prop comes along.

    The one prop which will probably trick people is the over or the distance, remember both men CUT Juan Diaz twice in a row..

    Paulie also, and his hands.. so on paper it looks as if .. the over is goods as both guys don't hit hard.. but would hate to lose on a cut or stoppage due to injury. 

    Remember these guys are not top of the line guys and reached their peak already especially Juan Diaz, his fighting style doesn't last long even if you DO well, being he got dismantled two times in a row .. doesn't bode well for him.

    Paulie has a longer shelf life, I believe technical boxers (even if they cannot crack an egg) last longer in boxing. All Paulie needs is one BIG win.., and with his mouth he can create some fights.

    Not the same for Juan Diaz. He should enter law school and sue his managers for making the fight with Marquez after being destroyed by Nate Campbell, if Nate could do it easily and lay  the  blue print, what did they think Marquez was going to do.

     
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    Italiano or not   hes a clown


    I used to hate him too.. I was like how can a guy who talks so much trash and has zero punching power be good.. well he proved me wrong once against Cotto he did an amazing job boxing both giving and taking.. yes it's a given he cannot crack an egg.. but he showed heart and I gained some respect for him.

    Seems after that fight.. he has bitched and moaned about his hands. I think what we saw against Cotto was the best he had to offer and he's never been the same since.

    I know Paulie cannot crack an egg.. but one thing for sure is he's not a quitter .. and has never been broken.

    Credit to Juan Diaz he's never quit, but he has been BROKEN twice.  Especially Nate because at that time HBO was touting Juan Diaz as unstoppable.. so Nate coming in at that age and giving him a beating.. was the "first" for Diaz.

    I still believe Paulie should have been his second fight coming back, NOT Marquez a Technical Boxer with Power. Paulie is Technical but he would make Juan Diaz look like the OLD  Juan Diaz a guy coming forward relentlessly.

    Yes Paulie may have won on points but in Houston.. the decision would have went to Diaz and Diaz would have SOME confidence back. While giving a very entertaining fight.

    At this time.. in their life.. I don't see why this fight is being made. Both fighters reached their peak a while ago, Paulie had his chances and didn't win, did well in some but didn't win.

    Juan Diaz after being demolished by his last 2 foes, has nothing to gain except some money. Let's be realistic if Paulie had a punch, how much of a chance would Juan Diaz have? Would Juan Diaz even take this fight?

    I don't see this as a crossroads fight, actually their roads are connected both headed south, guess that would mean Paulie winds up in Mexico.. with Juan Diaz :) 

    Juan Diaz loses he retires, which is fine he made some good money, he has plans outside of boxing. Paulie win or lose, unless he gets KO'd will still make money as a gatekeeper and is a good opponent for any boxer/puncher looking to get a few rounds in and getting a "name" under their resume. 

    I would say Odds would be -190 -200 range for Diaz.  I'm still thinking if I would even touch this fight.. unless Vegas blows this line up.. to -300 hard to find value in either guy unless a juicy prop comes along.

    The one prop which will probably trick people is the over or the distance, remember both men CUT Juan Diaz twice in a row..

    Paulie also, and his hands.. so on paper it looks as if .. the over is goods as both guys don't hit hard.. but would hate to lose on a cut or stoppage due to injury. 

    Remember these guys are not top of the line guys and reached their peak already especially Juan Diaz, his fighting style doesn't last long even if you DO well, being he got dismantled two times in a row .. doesn't bode well for him.

    Paulie has a longer shelf life, I believe technical boxers (even if they cannot crack an egg) last longer in boxing. All Paulie needs is one BIG win.., and with his mouth he can create some fights.

    Not the same for Juan Diaz. He should enter law school and sue his managers for making the fight with Marquez after being destroyed by Nate Campbell, if Nate could do it easily and lay  the  blue print, what did they think Marquez was going to do.

     
     
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    I think Diaz is in deep shit in this one. Remember how Diaz looked amateurish after having Marquez in trouble early in the fight once Marquez went to the body and started boxing? Well, we might have the same thing here.

    Malignaggi doesn't like pressure, and that is why Hatton was able to stop him. However, Hatton is about 100X better than Diaz, and much more pop. The problem here is that Malignaggi will be able to use that world class speed and boxing ability to school Diaz without ever really getting hurt. Paulie will also be in much better shape than Diaz, so this could really wind up being getting ugly.

    I'll be on Paulie, and probably very big.


    really?  That post surprised me.

    If Diaz fought Hatton I wouldnt hesitate to take Diaz.

    Why do people still think Hatton is good?

    Also using a fight vs Marquez to compare to Malignaggi is a bit of a reach

    I think Diaz will beat the shit out of Little Mac


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    I think Diaz is in deep shit in this one. Remember how Diaz looked amateurish after having Marquez in trouble early in the fight once Marquez went to the body and started boxing? Well, we might have the same thing here.

    Malignaggi doesn't like pressure, and that is why Hatton was able to stop him. However, Hatton is about 100X better than Diaz, and much more pop. The problem here is that Malignaggi will be able to use that world class speed and boxing ability to school Diaz without ever really getting hurt. Paulie will also be in much better shape than Diaz, so this could really wind up being getting ugly.

    I'll be on Paulie, and probably very big.


    really?  That post surprised me.

    If Diaz fought Hatton I wouldnt hesitate to take Diaz.

    Why do people still think Hatton is good?

    Also using a fight vs Marquez to compare to Malignaggi is a bit of a reach

    I think Diaz will beat the shit out of Little Mac


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by NJDevils:



    really?  That post surprised me.

    If Diaz fought Hatton I wouldnt hesitate to take Diaz.

    Why do people still think Hatton is good?

    Also using a fight vs Marquez to compare to Malignaggi is a bit of a reach

    I think Diaz will beat the shit out of Little Mac




    This fight is literally the bull vs matador. Malignaggi is still hungry, and still has drawing potential. Diaz has one foot out the door, and is taylor made for Malignaggi. His head first style and lack of speed is going to make him look silly. I don't see how Malignaggi doesn't win...

    Hatton got crushed by the #1 and #2 PFP in the world. No shame in that. He would destroy Diaz. He isn't good, but he isn't Diaz either.
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    really?  That post surprised me.

    If Diaz fought Hatton I wouldnt hesitate to take Diaz.

    Why do people still think Hatton is good?

    Also using a fight vs Marquez to compare to Malignaggi is a bit of a reach

    I think Diaz will beat the shit out of Little Mac




    This fight is literally the bull vs matador. Malignaggi is still hungry, and still has drawing potential. Diaz has one foot out the door, and is taylor made for Malignaggi. His head first style and lack of speed is going to make him look silly. I don't see how Malignaggi doesn't win...

    Hatton got crushed by the #1 and #2 PFP in the world. No shame in that. He would destroy Diaz. He isn't good, but he isn't Diaz either.
     
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    Diaz will win and do so easy in a similiar manner that hatton did.
     
    BTW-Diaz beat Katsidis, he hasn't lost his last 2 fights.
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    Diaz will win and do so easy in a similiar manner that hatton did.
     
    BTW-Diaz beat Katsidis, he hasn't lost his last 2 fights.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayweatherfan:

    Diaz will win and do so easy in a similiar manner that hatton did.
     
    BTW-Diaz beat Katsidis, he hasn't lost his last 2 fights.


    Who said he lost his last two fights?
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    Diaz will win and do so easy in a similiar manner that hatton did.
     
    BTW-Diaz beat Katsidis, he hasn't lost his last 2 fights.


    Who said he lost his last two fights?
     
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    Nuttyrich, more than once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayweatherfan:

    Nuttyrich, more than once.


    Yes I stand corrected he received a close (In Houston)  SPLIT decision to Michael Katsidis, who was  the perfect opponent after Nate, a come forward brawler.

    If people are so sure of the outcome of a fight, please do a write up explaining why.. logically I can see why people would say Juan Diaz, and others pick Paulie.  Please do a write up so we can all discuss it, saying "He will win easy"    write ups fellas.. for HEALTHY discussion.. :)

    -Rich




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    Nuttyrich, more than once.


    Yes I stand corrected he received a close (In Houston)  SPLIT decision to Michael Katsidis, who was  the perfect opponent after Nate, a come forward brawler.

    If people are so sure of the outcome of a fight, please do a write up explaining why.. logically I can see why people would say Juan Diaz, and others pick Paulie.  Please do a write up so we can all discuss it, saying "He will win easy"    write ups fellas.. for HEALTHY discussion.. :)

    -Rich




     
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    It's best to just keep things simple sometimes.Malinaggi will  get beat up because he won't be able to handle Diaz's pressure. Diaz's hands aren't exactly slow and Malinaggi won;t be able to keep him off.
     
    BTW-Regardless of Diaz-Katsidis being a SD he won very clearly. He outlanded Katsidis by a ton. I don't know anyone who thought Katsidis actually beat Diaz.
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    It's best to just keep things simple sometimes.Malinaggi will  get beat up because he won't be able to handle Diaz's pressure. Diaz's hands aren't exactly slow and Malinaggi won;t be able to keep him off.
     
    BTW-Regardless of Diaz-Katsidis being a SD he won very clearly. He outlanded Katsidis by a ton. I don't know anyone who thought Katsidis actually beat Diaz.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by mayweatherfan:

    It's best to just keep things simple sometimes.Malinaggi will  get beat up because he won't be able to handle Diaz's pressure. Diaz's hands aren't exactly slow and Malinaggi won;t be able to keep him off.
     
    BTW-Regardless of Diaz-Katsidis being a SD he won very clearly. He outlanded Katsidis by a ton. I don't know anyone who thought Katsidis actually beat Diaz.


    At first glance, maybe. If you look deeper into this one you will see why I like Malignaggi so much here.

    If I get +200, it's a double bet. Anything north of +250... I'm going to bet a dime, something that I never do.
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    It's best to just keep things simple sometimes.Malinaggi will  get beat up because he won't be able to handle Diaz's pressure. Diaz's hands aren't exactly slow and Malinaggi won;t be able to keep him off.
     
    BTW-Regardless of Diaz-Katsidis being a SD he won very clearly. He outlanded Katsidis by a ton. I don't know anyone who thought Katsidis actually beat Diaz.


    At first glance, maybe. If you look deeper into this one you will see why I like Malignaggi so much here.

    If I get +200, it's a double bet. Anything north of +250... I'm going to bet a dime, something that I never do.
     
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    "I think this a a pick'em type fight, with a slight Hatton lean.

    The over is money in the bank." 
     
    How that work out for you buddy?
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    "I think this a a pick'em type fight, with a slight Hatton lean.

    The over is money in the bank." 
     
    How that work out for you buddy?
     
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    I figured I'd throw this question in here too:
    Daniel Jacobs vs. Ishe Smith why?
     
    Has Smith ever been in a good fight in his life?  Is it a good idea to put Jacobs in who will just run and do whatever he can to keep from engaging?  Smith will frustrate Jacobs and make the fight as boring as possible.  Blah. 
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    I figured I'd throw this question in here too:
    Daniel Jacobs vs. Ishe Smith why?
     
    Has Smith ever been in a good fight in his life?  Is it a good idea to put Jacobs in who will just run and do whatever he can to keep from engaging?  Smith will frustrate Jacobs and make the fight as boring as possible.  Blah. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DannoDanger:

    I figured I'd throw this question in here too:
    Daniel Jacobs vs. Ishe Smith why?
     
    Has Smith ever been in a good fight in his life?  Is it a good idea to put Jacobs in who will just run and do whatever he can to keep from engaging?  Smith will frustrate Jacobs and make the fight as boring as possible.  Blah. 
    Completely agree. The only semi exciting fight on the card is Guerrero/Klassen. 
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    I figured I'd throw this question in here too:
    Daniel Jacobs vs. Ishe Smith why?
     
    Has Smith ever been in a good fight in his life?  Is it a good idea to put Jacobs in who will just run and do whatever he can to keep from engaging?  Smith will frustrate Jacobs and make the fight as boring as possible.  Blah. 
    Completely agree. The only semi exciting fight on the card is Guerrero/Klassen. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:



    At first glance, maybe. If you look deeper into this one you will see why I like Malignaggi so much here.

    If I get +200, it's a double bet. Anything north of +250... I'm going to bet a dime, something that I never do.

    +500 is the line I saw. Going to bet your first born?

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    At first glance, maybe. If you look deeper into this one you will see why I like Malignaggi so much here.

    If I get +200, it's a double bet. Anything north of +250... I'm going to bet a dime, something that I never do.

    +500 is the line I saw. Going to bet your first born?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Covers_Speds:

    +500 is the line I saw. Going to bet your first born?



    If that's the line.... yeah. Probably.
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    +500 is the line I saw. Going to bet your first born?



    If that's the line.... yeah. Probably.
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:



    I think Diaz is in deep shit in this one. Remember how Diaz looked amateurish after having Marquez in trouble early in the fight once Marquez went to the body and started boxing? Well, we might have the same thing here.

    Malignaggi doesn't like pressure, and that is why Hatton was able to stop him. However, Hatton is about 100X better than Diaz, and much more pop. The problem here is that Malignaggi will be able to use that world class speed and boxing ability to school Diaz without ever really getting hurt. Paulie will also be in much better shape than Diaz, so this could really wind up being getting ugly.

    I'll be on Paulie, and probably very big.


    Glad I didn't bet my first born... I don't think she would like Houston very much.
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    I think Diaz is in deep shit in this one. Remember how Diaz looked amateurish after having Marquez in trouble early in the fight once Marquez went to the body and started boxing? Well, we might have the same thing here.

    Malignaggi doesn't like pressure, and that is why Hatton was able to stop him. However, Hatton is about 100X better than Diaz, and much more pop. The problem here is that Malignaggi will be able to use that world class speed and boxing ability to school Diaz without ever really getting hurt. Paulie will also be in much better shape than Diaz, so this could really wind up being getting ugly.

    I'll be on Paulie, and probably very big.


    Glad I didn't bet my first born... I don't think she would like Houston very much.
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