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Quote Originally Posted by TennisCapper:



Coin toss scenario means 50/50 or

Haye -105
Valuev -105

If it was really 50/50 to your eyes how come you didn't pound Valuev at +180?


but if its fifty fifty your still getting +180.....close to 2 to1 on the dollar????

 

 
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Why is it that every time someone asks you a question you just flip out and start offending people? This is why you are a clown to my eyes.

All I said was that if you are the covers machine you must be good in creating odds, and if you create one side at -105 and that same side you can buy it at +180 it should deserve a bet.
What is so bad about this statement that makes me pathetic?

+180 means 35% chances
-105 means 50% chances

therefore

not betting the +180 means that you are renouncing at 15 net wins over a 100 matches scenario. Silly if you ask me.

You can't say this fight is a fight to not get involved with, then you say it is a coin toss but you don't bet the side that is offered at 35% chances


 
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would i like to have gotten the 180! course I would. To be honest I havent invested much in this. When I see line moves like this I like to get involved with the gamble. I didnt take the 180 because I aint convinced and still not. Cappers I seriously respect are on Valuev. Combined with the insane gamble I took +110. My writeup still stands and I still think this is a mess
 
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Quote Originally Posted by TennisCapper:

Why is it that every time someone asks you a question you just flip out and start offending people? This is why you are a clown to my eyes.

All I said was that if you are the covers machine you must be good in creating odds, and if you create one side at -105 and that same side you can buy it at +180 it should deserve a bet.
What is so bad about this statement that makes me pathetic?

+180 means 35% chances
-105 means 50% chances

therefore

not betting the +180 means that you are renouncing at 15 net wins over a 100 matches scenario. Silly if you ask me.

You can't say this fight is a fight to not get involved with, then you say it is a coin toss but you don't bet the side that is offered at 35% chances


serious question....how did u get 35% i got 44%....i know i did something wrong though

 
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Cee_Money

44% is actually +125




 
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it really isnt a mess....honestly that line was way to fucking high...it opened at -300 haye.....but this fight is almost like ruiz and jones.....if ruiz could hit jones he could have a chance and if valuev can land more then just one punch combos game over but do u really think he is gonna be able to....i dont........

champs deserved a little more credit...he is fighting at home where he already has robbed once before...and haye's chin is suspect and he is fighting a guy that weighs 100 lbs over him......however beside a decent sneaky jab valeuv would get murdered by any klitzcho....

 
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Quote Originally Posted by TennisCapper:

Cee_Money

44% is actually +125




thats what i thought

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

would i like to have gotten the 180! course I would. To be honest I havent invested much in this. When I see line moves like this I like to get involved with the gamble. I didnt take the 180 because I aint convinced and still not. Cappers I seriously respect are on Valuev. Combined with the insane gamble I took +110. My writeup still stands and I still think this is a mess


That is related to what I said.
All I said is that of you cap a fight at a coin toss and you consider yourself good in creating odds and one side is offered at +180 you should be all over that price regardless of how messy a fight can be. I consider myself very good at creating odds for Tennis matches and if I cap a match at 50/50 I will be either side that is offered at +125 or more, let alone +180. I'd be all over that one.

Anyway, don't flip out if someone asks you a question.

 
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sorry I thought you were having ANOTHER go at me
 
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Fucked the parley on the big galoot, I still think he won though. Surprised to see a score like that in Germany. King is such a non factor these days.

Made it up on Fedor for 2 and another 2 on Dawson.
 
 
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This fight was very, very fishy. Haye seemed to know that he was winning without getting much done at all.
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