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    Jermain Taylor -130? Are you serious?

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    Posted: Apr. 20, 2009 - 9:03 PM ET #26

    By the way, you an get Taylor @ -120 at 5 dimes
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    By the way, you an get Taylor @ -120 at 5 dimes
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2009 - 4:57 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by EricLinny:

    You contradicted yourself so many times it's not even funny.  You said Right now American boxers have no real stars (gone are DelaHoya/Hopkins/Mayweather and nearly Sugar Shane

    Yet Hopkins lost twice to this "bum" Taylor.  You may have long and thought up write-ups which make some sense, but you are sounding like Froch is an absolute lock of the century and Taylor is ready for retirement.  Think before you speak or at least keep it civil 

    And what did I also say moron!? "I can't explain how Jermaine Taylor managed to beat B HOP. I just honestly think as B HOP got older he started to struggle at the weight." No way Taylor even last 3 rounds BHOP 15 years ago..

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    Quote Originally Posted by EricLinny:

    You contradicted yourself so many times it's not even funny.  You said Right now American boxers have no real stars (gone are DelaHoya/Hopkins/Mayweather and nearly Sugar Shane

    Yet Hopkins lost twice to this "bum" Taylor.  You may have long and thought up write-ups which make some sense, but you are sounding like Froch is an absolute lock of the century and Taylor is ready for retirement.  Think before you speak or at least keep it civil 

    And what did I also say moron!? "I can't explain how Jermaine Taylor managed to beat B HOP. I just honestly think as B HOP got older he started to struggle at the weight." No way Taylor even last 3 rounds BHOP 15 years ago..

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2009 - 8:25 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:



    Way off- Pavlik started taking over in the first round before he got cocky and caught in the 2nd.   

    People forget Jermaine was destroying Pavlik in the first fight, until he ran out of gas,actually in the second round he dropped Pavlik and went for the KO and once Pavlik fought it off, Jermaine was doomed cannot blame him going for the finish.

    This is Jermaine's easiest fight, styles make fights, and Froch  doesn't match up with Jermaine in any category.

    Speed, Jab, athleticism,counter punching and does have power he tends NOT to go for the kill he relies on 1-2 1-2-3  combos and that is Froch's  downfall as Froch needs someone to engage with and Jermaine WON'T.

    People think you can force your will on someone, well you need a good jab to get in, Froch slaps his jab and holds it very low. Jermaine will NOT be there for a COUNTER from Froch.

    Froch is way out of his league, this fight is in America!

    There is a saying "Your ego is writing checks, your body cannot cash"

    In Froch's case

    "His EGO is writing checks, his boxing skills cannot cash"

    Jermaine easy win!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:



    Way off- Pavlik started taking over in the first round before he got cocky and caught in the 2nd.   

    People forget Jermaine was destroying Pavlik in the first fight, until he ran out of gas,actually in the second round he dropped Pavlik and went for the KO and once Pavlik fought it off, Jermaine was doomed cannot blame him going for the finish.

    This is Jermaine's easiest fight, styles make fights, and Froch  doesn't match up with Jermaine in any category.

    Speed, Jab, athleticism,counter punching and does have power he tends NOT to go for the kill he relies on 1-2 1-2-3  combos and that is Froch's  downfall as Froch needs someone to engage with and Jermaine WON'T.

    People think you can force your will on someone, well you need a good jab to get in, Froch slaps his jab and holds it very low. Jermaine will NOT be there for a COUNTER from Froch.

    Froch is way out of his league, this fight is in America!

    There is a saying "Your ego is writing checks, your body cannot cash"

    In Froch's case

    "His EGO is writing checks, his boxing skills cannot cash"

    Jermaine easy win!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2009 - 9:27 AM ET #29

    Look at round 5 of the Lacy v Taylor fight and the right hand that drops Taylor..He will be eating that right hand all night..You were all warned, you will lose a lot of bummy backing that over rated bum Taylor
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    Look at round 5 of the Lacy v Taylor fight and the right hand that drops Taylor..He will be eating that right hand all night..You were all warned, you will lose a lot of bummy backing that over rated bum Taylor
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2009 - 1:08 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Look at round 5 of the Lacy v Taylor fight and the right hand that drops Taylor..He will be eating that right hand all night..You were all warned, you will lose a lot of bummy backing that over rated bum Taylor

    YOU need to watch the replay, thew punch hit JT's shoulder. Didn't even touch his head...hahaha.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Look at round 5 of the Lacy v Taylor fight and the right hand that drops Taylor..He will be eating that right hand all night..You were all warned, you will lose a lot of bummy backing that over rated bum Taylor

    YOU need to watch the replay, thew punch hit JT's shoulder. Didn't even touch his head...hahaha.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2009 - 1:29 PM ET #31

    lets just wait and see which taylor turns up, either way this will be engaging. Taylor is slowly tightening on the exchanges But i imagine it is only chump money. Froch will give his best, whether it's good enough we have to wait and see. As for Kessler at Supermiddle no one beats him, he really has immaculate boxing skills and calzaghe's pace to the punch beat him although there were many times in that fight I could see the KO coming. I wish Kessler would take it to the next levell, he would destroy pavlik and i think hed be too physically strong for Hopkins and Taylor looooooooooool.
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    lets just wait and see which taylor turns up, either way this will be engaging. Taylor is slowly tightening on the exchanges But i imagine it is only chump money. Froch will give his best, whether it's good enough we have to wait and see. As for Kessler at Supermiddle no one beats him, he really has immaculate boxing skills and calzaghe's pace to the punch beat him although there were many times in that fight I could see the KO coming. I wish Kessler would take it to the next levell, he would destroy pavlik and i think hed be too physically strong for Hopkins and Taylor looooooooooool.
     
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    Believe it or not, I think that Taylor could have finished Lacy at any point during that fight. His lack of aggression could have simply been to save some face for Lacy - a well publicized "friend" of his. That was basically no more than a sparring match for much of the fight, and Taylor probably treated it as such. I wouldn't evaluate that performance as the rule for Taylor, more the exception. 
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    Believe it or not, I think that Taylor could have finished Lacy at any point during that fight. His lack of aggression could have simply been to save some face for Lacy - a well publicized "friend" of his. That was basically no more than a sparring match for much of the fight, and Taylor probably treated it as such. I wouldn't evaluate that performance as the rule for Taylor, more the exception. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2009 - 4:30 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    Believe it or not, I think that Taylor could have finished Lacy at any point during that fight. His lack of aggression could have simply been to save some face for Lacy - a well publicized "friend" of his. That was basically no more than a sparring match for much of the fight, and Taylor probably treated it as such. I wouldn't evaluate that performance as the rule for Taylor, more the exception. 

     

    I concur (and so do alot of others).

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    Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

    Believe it or not, I think that Taylor could have finished Lacy at any point during that fight. His lack of aggression could have simply been to save some face for Lacy - a well publicized "friend" of his. That was basically no more than a sparring match for much of the fight, and Taylor probably treated it as such. I wouldn't evaluate that performance as the rule for Taylor, more the exception. 

     

    I concur (and so do alot of others).

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2009 - 4:37 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:


    YOU need to watch the replay, thew punch hit JT's shoulder. Didn't even touch his head...hahaha.




    He's from Ireland Maybe he's drunk and thinks it hit Jermaine flush, probably same reason he thinks Froch is the next best thing!

    He keeps saying we're trying to make people bet on Taylor and pushing people, he's the one saying it's a LOCK everyone knows you mention the word lock or start mentioning "easy money" that the poster is an idiot. There is NO LOCK it's why it's called BETTING.

    I think we all have different opinions and different takes on how a fight will go but at the end off the night when the bell rings anything can happen, and there is no lock or sure thing.

    I firmly believe Jermaine will win over Frotch, and Frotch will go back to his homeland  where they fill the arena even if Frotch was fighting a dead chicken!

    Good luck to all! Bet with YOUR GUT FEELING.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:


    YOU need to watch the replay, thew punch hit JT's shoulder. Didn't even touch his head...hahaha.




    He's from Ireland Maybe he's drunk and thinks it hit Jermaine flush, probably same reason he thinks Froch is the next best thing!

    He keeps saying we're trying to make people bet on Taylor and pushing people, he's the one saying it's a LOCK everyone knows you mention the word lock or start mentioning "easy money" that the poster is an idiot. There is NO LOCK it's why it's called BETTING.

    I think we all have different opinions and different takes on how a fight will go but at the end off the night when the bell rings anything can happen, and there is no lock or sure thing.

    I firmly believe Jermaine will win over Frotch, and Frotch will go back to his homeland  where they fill the arena even if Frotch was fighting a dead chicken!

    Good luck to all! Bet with YOUR GUT FEELING.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2009 - 5:00 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:



    He's from Ireland Maybe he's drunk and thinks it hit Jermaine flush, probably same reason he thinks Froch is the next best thing!

    He keeps saying we're trying to make people bet on Taylor and pushing people, he's the one saying it's a LOCK everyone knows you mention the word lock or start mentioning "easy money" that the poster is an idiot. There is NO LOCK it's why it's called BETTING.

    I think we all have different opinions and different takes on how a fight will go but at the end off the night when the bell rings anything can happen, and there is no lock or sure thing.

    I firmly believe Jermaine will win over Frotch, and Frotch will go back to his homeland  where they fill the arena even if Frotch was fighting a dead chicken!

    Good luck to all! Bet with YOUR GUT FEELING.

    Show me once that I used the word lock. The shot that Lacy caught him with was a legitimate knockdown, no matter where the punch was landed. The point I was making was that Taylor is vunerable to the right hook, which is Froch's best punch. I can't to come here Sunday and laugh at you so called boxing experts..You should never judge a man on where's from and that drunken jibe is just pathetic..

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    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:



    He's from Ireland Maybe he's drunk and thinks it hit Jermaine flush, probably same reason he thinks Froch is the next best thing!

    He keeps saying we're trying to make people bet on Taylor and pushing people, he's the one saying it's a LOCK everyone knows you mention the word lock or start mentioning "easy money" that the poster is an idiot. There is NO LOCK it's why it's called BETTING.

    I think we all have different opinions and different takes on how a fight will go but at the end off the night when the bell rings anything can happen, and there is no lock or sure thing.

    I firmly believe Jermaine will win over Frotch, and Frotch will go back to his homeland  where they fill the arena even if Frotch was fighting a dead chicken!

    Good luck to all! Bet with YOUR GUT FEELING.

    Show me once that I used the word lock. The shot that Lacy caught him with was a legitimate knockdown, no matter where the punch was landed. The point I was making was that Taylor is vunerable to the right hook, which is Froch's best punch. I can't to come here Sunday and laugh at you so called boxing experts..You should never judge a man on where's from and that drunken jibe is just pathetic..

     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2009 - 6:41 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Show me once that I used the word lock. The shot that Lacy caught him with was a legitimate knockdown, no matter where the punch was landed. The point I was making was that Taylor is vunerable to the right hook, which is Froch's best punch. I can't to come here Sunday and laugh at you so called boxing experts..You should never judge a man on where's from and that drunken jibe is just pathetic..



    Jesus I was making a joke, I have nothing against Ireland. This is the thing by saying  "I cannot wait until Sunday to laugh at you people" That's pretty much saying it's a LOCK or a sure thing.

    Lets make a wager, if iJermaine loses I never post here again, if Froch loses, you never post here EVER AGAIN.

    Man enough?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    Show me once that I used the word lock. The shot that Lacy caught him with was a legitimate knockdown, no matter where the punch was landed. The point I was making was that Taylor is vunerable to the right hook, which is Froch's best punch. I can't to come here Sunday and laugh at you so called boxing experts..You should never judge a man on where's from and that drunken jibe is just pathetic..



    Jesus I was making a joke, I have nothing against Ireland. This is the thing by saying  "I cannot wait until Sunday to laugh at you people" That's pretty much saying it's a LOCK or a sure thing.

    Lets make a wager, if iJermaine loses I never post here again, if Froch loses, you never post here EVER AGAIN.

    Man enough?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2009 - 6:43 PM ET #37

    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    And what did I also say moron!? "I can't explain how Jermaine Taylor managed to beat B HOP. I just honestly think as B HOP got older he started to struggle at the weight." No way Taylor even last 3 rounds BHOP 15 years ago..



    Hey MORON!  If you knew anything about boxing, especially American boxing, you would know that Mayweather isn't really fukin "retired."  Dumbass.  It's called holding out until he gets the best offer.  According to your rational, both Klits have "retired," as well as Trinidad, B Hopkins..must I go on?  Good....more likely than none, superstar boxers don't really hang the gloves up when they say they are; it's called being a good businessman and waiting for the right offer.

    Now fuck off with your name calling
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    And what did I also say moron!? "I can't explain how Jermaine Taylor managed to beat B HOP. I just honestly think as B HOP got older he started to struggle at the weight." No way Taylor even last 3 rounds BHOP 15 years ago..



    Hey MORON!  If you knew anything about boxing, especially American boxing, you would know that Mayweather isn't really fukin "retired."  Dumbass.  It's called holding out until he gets the best offer.  According to your rational, both Klits have "retired," as well as Trinidad, B Hopkins..must I go on?  Good....more likely than none, superstar boxers don't really hang the gloves up when they say they are; it's called being a good businessman and waiting for the right offer.

    Now fuck off with your name calling
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2009 - 6:45 PM ET #38

    Hey you Irish asshole!  This thread and boxing forum in general has much respect for one another; win or lose.  So keep your negativity the hell out of here!  You are slowly losing the respect of very good boxing posters
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    Hey you Irish asshole!  This thread and boxing forum in general has much respect for one another; win or lose.  So keep your negativity the hell out of here!  You are slowly losing the respect of very good boxing posters
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2009 - 7:34 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by EricLinny:

    Hey you Irish asshole!  This thread and boxing forum in general has much respect for one another; win or lose.  So keep your negativity the hell out of here!  You are slowly losing the respect of very good boxing posters


    Eric don't waste your time with a guy like this, I offered him a wager, if Jermaine loses I never post here again and if Froch loses he never posts here again, figured a good way to get rid of this Froch lover.
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    Hey you Irish asshole!  This thread and boxing forum in general has much respect for one another; win or lose.  So keep your negativity the hell out of here!  You are slowly losing the respect of very good boxing posters


    Eric don't waste your time with a guy like this, I offered him a wager, if Jermaine loses I never post here again and if Froch loses he never posts here again, figured a good way to get rid of this Froch lover.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 21, 2009 - 7:46 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:



    Eric don't waste your time with a guy like this, I offered him a wager, if Jermaine loses I never post here again and if Froch loses he never posts here again, figured a good way to get rid of this Froch lover.


    That's the thing nuttyrich.  If Taylor wins, you, myself, and the rest of the Taylor backers will take our win with dignity and not rub it in.  If Froch pulls off the upset, we will never hear the end of it from this loser.

    Good Luck, rather large play for me
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    Eric don't waste your time with a guy like this, I offered him a wager, if Jermaine loses I never post here again and if Froch loses he never posts here again, figured a good way to get rid of this Froch lover.


    That's the thing nuttyrich.  If Taylor wins, you, myself, and the rest of the Taylor backers will take our win with dignity and not rub it in.  If Froch pulls off the upset, we will never hear the end of it from this loser.

    Good Luck, rather large play for me
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by EricLinny:



    That's the thing nuttyrich.  If Taylor wins, you, myself, and the rest of the Taylor backers will take our win with dignity and not rub it in.  If Froch pulls off the upset, we will never hear the end of it from this loser.

    Good Luck, rather large play for me


    Good Luck Eric, I love this play. I agree if I love a boxer in a certain match  and he loses I must suck it up that I chose the wrong guy and keep on picking!
     We cannot be right all the time, even though the odds are  almost even as a boxing fan if Froch won I would still consider it an upset!

    I guess what he doesn't see if most of us are NOT Jermaine Taylor FANS, we just see a good match up for Jermaine, to me I base on  fight by fight matchups, styles make fights I believe Jermaine has every answer for the unproven Froch.

    Good luck again!
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    That's the thing nuttyrich.  If Taylor wins, you, myself, and the rest of the Taylor backers will take our win with dignity and not rub it in.  If Froch pulls off the upset, we will never hear the end of it from this loser.

    Good Luck, rather large play for me


    Good Luck Eric, I love this play. I agree if I love a boxer in a certain match  and he loses I must suck it up that I chose the wrong guy and keep on picking!
     We cannot be right all the time, even though the odds are  almost even as a boxing fan if Froch won I would still consider it an upset!

    I guess what he doesn't see if most of us are NOT Jermaine Taylor FANS, we just see a good match up for Jermaine, to me I base on  fight by fight matchups, styles make fights I believe Jermaine has every answer for the unproven Froch.

    Good luck again!
     
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2009 - 3:02 PM ET #42

    Prop bets up at 5 Dimes

    Taylor inside distance  +365
    Taylor Decision           +199
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    Taylor inside distance  +365
    Taylor Decision           +199
     
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    Hey MORON!  If you knew anything about boxing, especially American boxing, you would know that Mayweather isn't really fukin "retired."  Dumbass.  It's called holding out until he gets the best offer.  According to your rational, both Klits have "retired," as well as Trinidad, B Hopkins..must I go on?  Good....more likely than none, superstar boxers don't really hang the gloves up when they say they are; it's called being a good businessman and waiting for the right offer.

    Now fuck off with your name calling

    I have no idea what the hell you are on about fruitcake..

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    Hey MORON!  If you knew anything about boxing, especially American boxing, you would know that Mayweather isn't really fukin "retired."  Dumbass.  It's called holding out until he gets the best offer.  According to your rational, both Klits have "retired," as well as Trinidad, B Hopkins..must I go on?  Good....more likely than none, superstar boxers don't really hang the gloves up when they say they are; it's called being a good businessman and waiting for the right offer.

    Now fuck off with your name calling

    I have no idea what the hell you are on about fruitcake..

     
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    I accept NuttyRich....I accept!!
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2009 - 6:07 PM ET #45

    get lost already jackass.  only 4 more days until we don't need to see your bullshit
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    get lost already jackass.  only 4 more days until we don't need to see your bullshit
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by EricLinny:

    get lost already jackass.  only 4 more days until we don't need to see your bullshit

    screw you weirdo! Shame we can't rid of a knob end like you for good who knows wsweet fcuk all..

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    get lost already jackass.  only 4 more days until we don't need to see your bullshit

    screw you weirdo! Shame we can't rid of a knob end like you for good who knows wsweet fcuk all..

     
    Mack05
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    Posted: Apr. 22, 2009 - 7:00 PM ET #47

    Eric Linny why don't you take the challenge? If Froch wins you stop posting here? Of course you won't you chiocken sh!t retard
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    I'm not into that whole "if I win you don't post thing...."  I wish Nuttyrich the best of luck and hope he sends your lame ass packing for good

    Unlike your dipshit ass, I know he will keep his word.  The guy brings tons of knowledge to the forum.

    Now, how about you go drink some Irish car bombs and drive into a pole
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    I'm not into that whole "if I win you don't post thing...."  I wish Nuttyrich the best of luck and hope he sends your lame ass packing for good

    Unlike your dipshit ass, I know he will keep his word.  The guy brings tons of knowledge to the forum.

    Now, how about you go drink some Irish car bombs and drive into a pole
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mack05:

    The shot that Lacy caught him with was a legitimate knockdown, no matter where the punch was landed. The point I was making was that Taylor is vunerable to the right hook, which is Froch's best punch. 

    A better ref would have seen the punch hit his back. Your are right...Jermain's clavicle is very vulnerable to Froch's right hook. Snap that shit like a twig...lol. You might be onto something here...
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    The shot that Lacy caught him with was a legitimate knockdown, no matter where the punch was landed. The point I was making was that Taylor is vunerable to the right hook, which is Froch's best punch. 

    A better ref would have seen the punch hit his back. Your are right...Jermain's clavicle is very vulnerable to Froch's right hook. Snap that shit like a twig...lol. You might be onto something here...
     
     
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    My bad...ref did see it and made the right call.
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