Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:
Totally disagree. We saw Hatton was just as fast as PBF, Hatton has a very quick jab when he wants to. Pac is not mega fast on his feet imo, he gets nailed when he darts in the pocket.
The key for Manny winning is his left hand. Ricky has shown fatal flaws against the left hook. Mayweather gave us the blueprint and Lazcano capitalized on it as well. Ricky snubbed Malignaggi's foot work and I rate Paul better at moving around that Pac.
I think that team Pac showing us in the 24/7's that he's working on the right hook is nothing more than a poorly cast lure for Ricky to forget about Pac's left hand. Straight lefts and hooks has gotten Pac this far. Why would he abandon it now? You know Roach is watching the tapes and that's the angle for success...ala Smaug's missing scale.
Quote Originally Posted by nuttyrich:
Ricky's chance of winning is, actually for once using his feet and move
his head like he USED to do. That's the ONLY way he can get inside.
Pac-man has a one knock against him that most people don't really
recall because it was over seas many years ago,
Disagree. Singsurat knocked him out in 3 circa 99' and Torrecampo snubbed him in 3 rounds circa 96'. That is 2 not 1. Not sure why you brought it up anyway, irrelevant here imo. Dude was prolly living on donuts by day and muskrat by night.
One thing that is instrumental for Hatton is the referee. If he gets a guy who will let him get grimy with the hold and hitting its going to be a 6 round tko.
Take the ref out of the equation and Hatton needs to focus on right side defense and hitting Pac's body. I saw small improvements in the Malinaggi fight. He hasn't been with Joy long and I expect more improvements come fight night tomorrow. Look to see Hatton going to Pacs body early.
Ricky knows how to cut off the ring and getting inside won't be too much of an issue. I see clash of heads and cuts. Who knows I could be wrong. Just my take...
Mcnulty I meant knock as in flaw or weakness that most people don't know about, I knew it was 2 ko's easily seen on boxrec.com.
Why did I bring it up, well people believe he is unbeatable people must remember a KO is a KO, and I pointed it out because this was at such a LIGHT weight 112 I believe as I posted before, if a 112 pounder can KO HIM what about a NATURAL 140 pounder, ALL Natural 140!
I know one poster said he was "starched and couldn't make weight" so that's why he got ko'd. I do agree to a certain extent, but a starched fighter say like Erik Morales who was much older still lasted 10 rounds, then eventually the third fight was a wash as Morales had rubber legs!
I still think the point is VALID because he was DROPPED, and actually living inside a donut would give a man MORE inspiration to WIN, it's always the hungrier fighter who win in wars!
More importantly his opponent Singsurat LOST in his only fight out of his country this was a first round ko by Jorge Arce, in 2007, and has never fought in USA/Mexico ever since. This was at 117. We know Arce has power but a first round tko? In 47 seconds lol! Thats who decked Pac-man.
I agree REF is a BIGGIE in this and the REF is Kenny Bayless, so if anyone can shed a light on how he handles hatton's hugging .. I k now he did Hatton's last fight in Vegas but that was against Malinaggi so the hugging wasn't an issue.
I know he did The Marquez/Pacman 2 fight and Morales fight, but he only did that one fight for Hatton, I need to see tape on Bayless to see if he is the type of guy who makes them fight...Mills lane would be good for this fight lol!
I don't see how you can see an improvement in that Malinaggi fight, easy to look good against a guy who cannot crack an egg! I mean that wasn't a true test let's see it against a real fighter. Again I don't disagree that looked better but look at who it was against.
I also believe Ricky CAN cut off the RING but somehow he loses that against Technical Boxers (Collazo, Mayweather). That's because they had stiff jabs. Pacman has a nice jab but not a jab that "keeps people at bay" makes sense? This will be a BIG part of the fight, how well does Manny JAB and how hard..
I also agree all the right hand work it helps pacman .. he does use it more and jabs more now, but regardless how you slice is, the left is his money shot.
The same goes for Ricky we know his style, gritty go to the BODY.
I disagree Ricky may be TRYING to work on his defense or his "right side" but at this stage in his boxing life, you are who you are.
Ricky May start out boxing, but as soon as he gets tagged he reverts, it's what makes Ricky Ricky!
This is not a classic match up people THINK it is or some amazing fight, personally Manny as I said fights in spurts bounces and darts in and OUT with a flurry of punches, not truly an "inside fighter" he's quick enough to not really engage on the inside.
Why I say this fight is NOT a classic is styles make fights and these two styles CLASH, one needs to be INSIDE one needs to be OUT. This is not a Morales/Marquez type fight where they engage each other, remember those guys are Technical Boxers with a BIG tendency to trade.
I see MANNY attempting to be the Technical Boxer, as seen in his past few fights (then again Diaz and Oscar made him look great), same as Malinaggi made Hatton look vastly improved.
Ricky is not multi-faceted regardless of how he uses the ring, he still is pretty one dimensional, and must get to the body if he truly gets in, he can put away Manny. (BIG IF)
So the fight I think I will be seeing is the same as Manny's last two fights using his speed his jab and finally catching his opponent , this is not a classic match up, both guys BRAWL in different ways, and this one edges Manny because his has more ways to WIN,
I like Pac-man and the late KO. (NOT A PICK)
This is just my analysis don't rule out RICKY by KO but that is slim, only way this happens if he is way too powerful because he's a natural 140 and gets on the INSIDE.
That being said, Ricky Cuts, Manny Cuts, Manny darts in a lot, head buts are likely, and Hatton Cuts easily...I like the fight to
NOT GO the Distance please remember this is NOT the same as the over/under on rounds!
This is the best bet in my opinion, two guys who cut, a guy who must get on the inside to break down his man, and is the natural 140 pounder. You have Pac-man who has great power and has a very hittable man in front of him and can finish!
My pick is
NOT GO the Distance :)
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