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    MAYWEATHER IS NOT UNDEFEATED BY THE WAY!!!!!!

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    Str8Grifter
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2012 - 3:23 AM ET #201

    I agree that Floyd will take the easy way in order to produce more money and increase his fighting longevity and minimize any short term and long term damage.
    As long as you have no national boxing commission with full oversight and control, corruption at the highest and lowest levels will exist easily. The main monster and culprit is.... the FANS! As long as they believe the BS on HBO 24/7 and constant advertising to increase a fights PPV revenue, and people are stupid enough to keep paying, this is what you will get.
    Modern day athletes are business men and marketers more than athletes.
    I only watch a few professional sports anymore, but as a kid I remember NBA teams played a full game and not just the last two minutes. I remember the days when NFL coaches weren't even judged by media or staffing at the very minimal until after their entire first year, but now just over 1/3 of the season passes by and the team is off to a bad start of 2-4 are already in the media with the coach considered in the HOT seat and very soon to be on the chopping block. At least college athletics has priorities and must perform all year to be considered as a possible professional.
      Boxing has gotten to be the ultimate joke and people buy these $59.99 PPV events that are not close to competitive and wouldn't even make the Tuesday Night Fights fight card two decades prior.

    BACK TO FLOYD... he has followed the modern day self-marketing athlete and apparently he has pulled it off as he is ranking #1 in revenues. If these fighters were not millionaires, and had a contract fight for $3 million with winner take all, you would see fights. As a extra incentive, if a fighter won by knockout they would earn $5 million, you would see some serious old school fight to death matches. I said $4 million then to $6 million as you would get to much fighter collusion to cheat so that they could split the shares. Not to lose the context regarding Floyd, but you have to consider motives and a persons goals. Apparently Floyd has a clear-cut motive, get paid with little risk and keep it flowing as long as he can.
    Floyd a coward? No. His motives are different. Take NFL running backs and use Walter Payton as the role model who always hit corner backs and didn't run out of bounce. Now star NFL running backs have salaries so high that they are told to run out of bounce and avoid getting hurt as the risk vs reward is not worth it. So in comparison, you would be calling 90% of NFL RB's of today cowards!
    Floyd has the skills and IQ to beat everyone, and it is upsetting to see such skills wasted on nothing more than a sparring match for $100 million + >>>
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    I agree that Floyd will take the easy way in order to produce more money and increase his fighting longevity and minimize any short term and long term damage.
    As long as you have no national boxing commission with full oversight and control, corruption at the highest and lowest levels will exist easily. The main monster and culprit is.... the FANS! As long as they believe the BS on HBO 24/7 and constant advertising to increase a fights PPV revenue, and people are stupid enough to keep paying, this is what you will get.
    Modern day athletes are business men and marketers more than athletes.
    I only watch a few professional sports anymore, but as a kid I remember NBA teams played a full game and not just the last two minutes. I remember the days when NFL coaches weren't even judged by media or staffing at the very minimal until after their entire first year, but now just over 1/3 of the season passes by and the team is off to a bad start of 2-4 are already in the media with the coach considered in the HOT seat and very soon to be on the chopping block. At least college athletics has priorities and must perform all year to be considered as a possible professional.
      Boxing has gotten to be the ultimate joke and people buy these $59.99 PPV events that are not close to competitive and wouldn't even make the Tuesday Night Fights fight card two decades prior.

    BACK TO FLOYD... he has followed the modern day self-marketing athlete and apparently he has pulled it off as he is ranking #1 in revenues. If these fighters were not millionaires, and had a contract fight for $3 million with winner take all, you would see fights. As a extra incentive, if a fighter won by knockout they would earn $5 million, you would see some serious old school fight to death matches. I said $4 million then to $6 million as you would get to much fighter collusion to cheat so that they could split the shares. Not to lose the context regarding Floyd, but you have to consider motives and a persons goals. Apparently Floyd has a clear-cut motive, get paid with little risk and keep it flowing as long as he can.
    Floyd a coward? No. His motives are different. Take NFL running backs and use Walter Payton as the role model who always hit corner backs and didn't run out of bounce. Now star NFL running backs have salaries so high that they are told to run out of bounce and avoid getting hurt as the risk vs reward is not worth it. So in comparison, you would be calling 90% of NFL RB's of today cowards!
    Floyd has the skills and IQ to beat everyone, and it is upsetting to see such skills wasted on nothing more than a sparring match for $100 million + >>>
     
    BigPapa21
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2012 - 5:24 AM ET #202

    Post #201 sounds like our dear friend Zouk. 
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    Post #201 sounds like our dear friend Zouk. 
     
    Qncyk1
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2012 - 11:30 AM ET #203

    pramsu, zouk and now str8grifter?

    this person is not well.

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    pramsu, zouk and now str8grifter?

    this person is not well.

     
    walktheline
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2012 - 1:11 PM ET #204

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPapa21:

    Post #201 sounds like our dear friend Zouk. 

    It's so obvious!

    Apples to oranges comparisons? Check. Disjointed and delusional? Check. 10,000 characters? Check. Seriously sad. It's a message board buddy, take it easy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigPapa21:

    Post #201 sounds like our dear friend Zouk. 

    It's so obvious!

    Apples to oranges comparisons? Check. Disjointed and delusional? Check. 10,000 characters? Check. Seriously sad. It's a message board buddy, take it easy...
     
    BigPapa21
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2012 - 1:45 PM ET #205

    Quote Originally Posted by Qncyk1:

    pramsu, zouk and now str8grifter?

    this person is not well.


    Hey Q1 ...I thought about what you said alot of times. The last two weekends all of them fights and NOT ONE PICK!!! All of them issues with everyone on here. I really think the man has mental problems. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Qncyk1:

    pramsu, zouk and now str8grifter?

    this person is not well.


    Hey Q1 ...I thought about what you said alot of times. The last two weekends all of them fights and NOT ONE PICK!!! All of them issues with everyone on here. I really think the man has mental problems. 
     
    DeHoyos
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2012 - 10:09 PM ET #206

    He should of atleast posted one of ZOUK's Stories . Then it wouldnt be so obvious...

     

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    He should of atleast posted one of ZOUK's Stories . Then it wouldnt be so obvious...

     

     
    DeHoyos
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    Posted: Oct. 29, 2012 - 3:29 AM ET #207

    I think I speak for the entire Forum when I say, 'Im glad Zoukie decided to only post in his 23 other forums for a while...'

     

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    I think I speak for the entire Forum when I say, 'Im glad Zoukie decided to only post in his 23 other forums for a while...'

     

     
    DeHoyos
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2012 - 6:26 AM ET #208

    Wow this avatar ban ruins threads like this one.

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    Wow this avatar ban ruins threads like this one.

     
    Ktrain
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    Posted: Nov. 11, 2012 - 11:45 PM ET #209

    Quote Originally Posted by DeHoyos:

    Wow this avatar ban ruins threads like this one.


    Trust me, you ruined this thread way before they banned avatars. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeHoyos:

    Wow this avatar ban ruins threads like this one.


    Trust me, you ruined this thread way before they banned avatars. 

     
    DeHoyos
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2012 - 2:21 AM ET #210

    nice one Gay-Train...  
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    nice one Gay-Train...  
     
    twinkie13
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    Posted: Nov. 12, 2012 - 10:04 PM ET #211

    that fight is far from a robbery....serious dude

    this is boxing....when you say robbery there are 1000 other fights to point to
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    that fight is far from a robbery....serious dude

    this is boxing....when you say robbery there are 1000 other fights to point to
     
    Rex26
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2012 - 1:58 AM ET #212

    Mayweathers  punkin out by not  fighting pacman,a fighter who he should not have any problems beating.

    There trying to turn everybody into sissies by banning boxing from T.V

    You get to watch "will and grace" on T.V now.

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    Mayweathers  punkin out by not  fighting pacman,a fighter who he should not have any problems beating.

    There trying to turn everybody into sissies by banning boxing from T.V

    You get to watch "will and grace" on T.V now.

     
    DeHoyos
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2012 - 5:07 PM ET #213

    I dont believe he really has a beef with 50 either....
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    I dont believe he really has a beef with 50 either....
     
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    Posted: Nov. 13, 2012 - 11:31 PM ET #214

    If your talkin about 50 cent the rapper,he likes beef cause hes a maricon. L.O.L.

    who do you think was the best mexicon boxer?I say Salvador Sanchez,you young boys dont remember him do you?

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    If your talkin about 50 cent the rapper,he likes beef cause hes a maricon. L.O.L.

    who do you think was the best mexicon boxer?I say Salvador Sanchez,you young boys dont remember him do you?

     
    DeHoyos
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2012 - 4:52 AM ET #215

    Quote Originally Posted by Rex26:

    If your talkin about 50 cent the rapper,he likes beef cause hes a maricon. L.O.L.

    who do you think was the best mexicon boxer?I say Salvador Sanchez,you young boys dont remember him do you?

    check this out.

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101404897

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rex26:

    If your talkin about 50 cent the rapper,he likes beef cause hes a maricon. L.O.L.

    who do you think was the best mexicon boxer?I say Salvador Sanchez,you young boys dont remember him do you?

    check this out.

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101404897

     
    DeHoyos
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2012 - 4:59 AM ET #216

    everybody needs to stop calling JLC a bum!!!

     

     

    https://youtu.be/2PRmOOapxSc

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    everybody needs to stop calling JLC a bum!!!

     

     

    https://youtu.be/2PRmOOapxSc

     
    Rex26
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    Posted: Nov. 14, 2012 - 8:23 PM ET #217

    [Quote: Originally Posted by DeHoyos]

    check this out.

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101404897

    [/I never seen a website this long,you tryin to give me a virus or somethin?Quote]
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    [Quote: Originally Posted by DeHoyos]

    check this out.

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/post01/showmessage.aspx?spt=39&sub=101404897

    [/I never seen a website this long,you tryin to give me a virus or somethin?Quote]
     
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    Posted: Dec. 1, 2012 - 7:39 PM ET #218

    Dehoyos..... STFU.  Ur a Chavez fan...go figure. He sucks.  His turtle style defense?  Ur a friggin idiot.  Thats the best defense there is and anybody who can perfect it usually wins.  Adrien broner is doing the same thing and is rolling now.  Mexican fighters are just crazy tough guys no doubt.l. But for the most part they suck... Now shut up about Floyd mayweather. 
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    Dehoyos..... STFU.  Ur a Chavez fan...go figure. He sucks.  His turtle style defense?  Ur a friggin idiot.  Thats the best defense there is and anybody who can perfect it usually wins.  Adrien broner is doing the same thing and is rolling now.  Mexican fighters are just crazy tough guys no doubt.l. But for the most part they suck... Now shut up about Floyd mayweather. 
     
    DeHoyos
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    Posted: Dec. 7, 2012 - 12:16 PM ET #219

    broner fights for himself..i like fighters that fight for the people.
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    broner fights for himself..i like fighters that fight for the people.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2012 - 3:39 AM ET #220

    true
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    true
     
    DeHoyos
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    Posted: Dec. 8, 2012 - 5:52 AM ET #221

    "41-1!!!!! 41-1!!!!" Floyd Sr.
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    "41-1!!!!! 41-1!!!!" Floyd Sr.
     
    DeHoyos
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2013 - 3:27 AM ET #222

    I was watching the Floyd Chop Chop fight last night.... I still say Castillo beat em easy...

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    I was watching the Floyd Chop Chop fight last night.... I still say Castillo beat em easy...

     
    Jerseyboy89
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2013 - 4:48 AM ET #223

    Quote Originally Posted by DeHoyos:

    I was watching the Floyd Chop Chop fight last night.... I still say Castillo beat em easy...


    you're sorry as hell, 

    floyd has been dominating your mexican fighters for over a decade, and if he wanted too, he could make it two decades.  
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeHoyos:

    I was watching the Floyd Chop Chop fight last night.... I still say Castillo beat em easy...


    you're sorry as hell, 

    floyd has been dominating your mexican fighters for over a decade, and if he wanted too, he could make it two decades.  
     
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    Posted: Sep. 28, 2013 - 2:09 PM ET #224

    The 221 post was - Posted: 12/8/2012 5:52:59 AM DeHoyos

    The 222 post was - Posted: 9/28/2013 3:27:01 AM DeHoyos

    Nearly a year goes by, why not make a new thread? Do they give awards for the longest running posts on this site? I'm being serious, not sarcastic.

    I noticed being a Chavez fan, my favorite fighter has been JMM for along time. I think JMM brings everything he has to every fight, unlike almost any fighter. Chavez was known for the same but he was easily exposed by Whitaker, Randall, and destroyed by Oscar. At the lighter weights Oscar is very under-rated. Being a natural lefty and fighting Orthodox, his size against small fighters allowed his jab to dominate even Chavez if he was in his prime. Oscar couldn't carry power past welterweight due to his training from early age not allowing a power punch when you can penetrate a jab (the good with the bad).

    Castillo 1st fight was very close and Floyd was young and not yet a veteran. In those early days he was offensive... now he is both, anda master of both. Repeating a post from years ago I don't comprehend. You posted the subject, and continue to keep a dying thread with no new information instead of focusing on the current. Chavez tried to keep his dying career going after he was easily exposed and we know how that turned out. If Castillo KOd Floyd, or destroyed him I could see, but many fights are to close and it depends on viewpoints... it's not 100%. You want that, just KO everyone and you won't get robbed. Manny vs JMM part 2 was very close. I agreed, but it was to the point it could be viewed the other way.

     If Castillo once did what Oscar did to Chavez twice... then I could see. Otherwise like a former college football coach said... "Maybe we lost on a bad call the last play, but if we truly much better we would win by enough that bad calls wouldn't effect us. So clearly, we are equally matched, and bad calls are a part of the game." That was a bold statement after a terrible call, but it had merit.

    Only once in boxing, a fighter loss decisevely and said it. That was Chris Byrd former Heavyweight Champ. That shows strength in the character of a leader and real man and competitor.

     

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    The 221 post was - Posted: 12/8/2012 5:52:59 AM DeHoyos

    The 222 post was - Posted: 9/28/2013 3:27:01 AM DeHoyos

    Nearly a year goes by, why not make a new thread? Do they give awards for the longest running posts on this site? I'm being serious, not sarcastic.

    I noticed being a Chavez fan, my favorite fighter has been JMM for along time. I think JMM brings everything he has to every fight, unlike almost any fighter. Chavez was known for the same but he was easily exposed by Whitaker, Randall, and destroyed by Oscar. At the lighter weights Oscar is very under-rated. Being a natural lefty and fighting Orthodox, his size against small fighters allowed his jab to dominate even Chavez if he was in his prime. Oscar couldn't carry power past welterweight due to his training from early age not allowing a power punch when you can penetrate a jab (the good with the bad).

    Castillo 1st fight was very close and Floyd was young and not yet a veteran. In those early days he was offensive... now he is both, anda master of both. Repeating a post from years ago I don't comprehend. You posted the subject, and continue to keep a dying thread with no new information instead of focusing on the current. Chavez tried to keep his dying career going after he was easily exposed and we know how that turned out. If Castillo KOd Floyd, or destroyed him I could see, but many fights are to close and it depends on viewpoints... it's not 100%. You want that, just KO everyone and you won't get robbed. Manny vs JMM part 2 was very close. I agreed, but it was to the point it could be viewed the other way.

     If Castillo once did what Oscar did to Chavez twice... then I could see. Otherwise like a former college football coach said... "Maybe we lost on a bad call the last play, but if we truly much better we would win by enough that bad calls wouldn't effect us. So clearly, we are equally matched, and bad calls are a part of the game." That was a bold statement after a terrible call, but it had merit.

    Only once in boxing, a fighter loss decisevely and said it. That was Chris Byrd former Heavyweight Champ. That shows strength in the character of a leader and real man and competitor.

     

     
     
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    Do they monitor this site? If so, a dead thread should be GONE!

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