The Mayweather camp just wants to make sure the fight takes place on a level playing field. You can't blame them for that. So far, Pacman has made a million crazy excuses as to why he won't have a legit drug test immediately before the fight. If your not juicing... Why throw away a multi-million dollar payday over this simple issue? I think most of you know the answer to that question. As much as I want to see the fight happen...I want to see it happen without the use of illegal substances. Otherwise we'll never really know who the better boxer is.
We all know that steroids dont enhance endurance it only builds muscle and it also increases estrogen levels if not taken with Nolvadex, I've takin stacks of steroids myself, it never made my endurance better it only screws up your hormonial balance.
Illegal substance is just and excuse all mayweather has to do is sign the contract and say yes
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Quote Originally Posted by Redlad:
The Mayweather camp just wants to make sure the fight takes place on a level playing field. You can't blame them for that. So far, Pacman has made a million crazy excuses as to why he won't have a legit drug test immediately before the fight. If your not juicing... Why throw away a multi-million dollar payday over this simple issue? I think most of you know the answer to that question. As much as I want to see the fight happen...I want to see it happen without the use of illegal substances. Otherwise we'll never really know who the better boxer is.
We all know that steroids dont enhance endurance it only builds muscle and it also increases estrogen levels if not taken with Nolvadex, I've takin stacks of steroids myself, it never made my endurance better it only screws up your hormonial balance.
Illegal substance is just and excuse all mayweather has to do is sign the contract and say yes
its not that Mayweather is waiting its just that he gets in trouble with the law every fucking week the son of a bitch has alot of issues. When has mayweather ever fought a real fighter in his prime? Mosley? De la hoya? Castillo? Legal issues aside he doesn't want to fight Pacquiao, he's scared to get dropped he aint fighting Baldomir or Hatton he doesn't want to fight a legit fighter period. He wants to get paid but he doesn't move dough like De LA Hoya and Pacquiao, his fight with Baldomir they were doing 2 for 1 at the mandalay bay and they still didn't sell that bitch out. Nobody cares about Mayweather here in Nevada. It takes a pair of balls to fight Pacman that's why Mayweather wont go in the ring.
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its not that Mayweather is waiting its just that he gets in trouble with the law every fucking week the son of a bitch has alot of issues. When has mayweather ever fought a real fighter in his prime? Mosley? De la hoya? Castillo? Legal issues aside he doesn't want to fight Pacquiao, he's scared to get dropped he aint fighting Baldomir or Hatton he doesn't want to fight a legit fighter period. He wants to get paid but he doesn't move dough like De LA Hoya and Pacquiao, his fight with Baldomir they were doing 2 for 1 at the mandalay bay and they still didn't sell that bitch out. Nobody cares about Mayweather here in Nevada. It takes a pair of balls to fight Pacman that's why Mayweather wont go in the ring.
i feel if mayweather thought he could win we would have watched this fight already. the way he hand picks his fights common sense tells you he don't think he can beat manny. why wouldn't he take the 20-30 million? he comes up with the blood test reason. if it wasnt that it be something else....he just don't want pac-man...
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i feel if mayweather thought he could win we would have watched this fight already. the way he hand picks his fights common sense tells you he don't think he can beat manny. why wouldn't he take the 20-30 million? he comes up with the blood test reason. if it wasnt that it be something else....he just don't want pac-man...
We all know that steroids dont enhance endurance it only builds muscle and it also increases estrogen levels if not taken with Nolvadex, I've takin stacks of steroids myself, it never made my endurance better it only screws up your hormonial balance.
Illegal substance is just and excuse all mayweather has to do is sign the contract and say yes
so would you say steroids helps at all?
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Quote Originally Posted by sunset:
We all know that steroids dont enhance endurance it only builds muscle and it also increases estrogen levels if not taken with Nolvadex, I've takin stacks of steroids myself, it never made my endurance better it only screws up your hormonial balance.
Illegal substance is just and excuse all mayweather has to do is sign the contract and say yes
All I know is Ive never seen a boxer who is suppose to be the best pond 4 pound demand that his opponent take drug test over and above what the Nevada State Athletic Commission demands. Pacquiao has never tested positive for any illegal substance, so its just ignorant for anyone to suggest he's doping without proof. The fact that this is such an issue with Mayweather tells me Pacquiao is already in his head. If Floyd really felt he could beat Pacman as easy as his fans think why doesnt he just take the fight make 20 Million and show everyobody he's the best. Im so tired of hearing about even playing field. When Pacquiao has been whiipin the ass of all these bigger welterweights the last two years was that an even playing field? Hell no he was giving up 10-15 pounds every fight. Would Mayweather ever give up that kind of weight disparity. Hell No. All he wants to do is stack the deck to his advantage. Making Marquez fight at 145. Watch what Pacquiao does to Marquez at 145. Floyd is very skilled but thats only gojng to get you so far against another guy who also has skills speed and power. Does anyone believe that Pacquiao is not going to hit mayweather? If old man Mosley can clock Floyd what do you think Pacquiao is going to do. You Floyd fans must not be watching the common opponent fights between the two. So far it hasnt even been close. Pacquioa has destroyed the same opponents that it takes Floyd 9,10,or 12 rounds to beat. Floyds got a pistol and Pacquiao's got a Bazooka. Which would you rather have in a fight.
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All I know is Ive never seen a boxer who is suppose to be the best pond 4 pound demand that his opponent take drug test over and above what the Nevada State Athletic Commission demands. Pacquiao has never tested positive for any illegal substance, so its just ignorant for anyone to suggest he's doping without proof. The fact that this is such an issue with Mayweather tells me Pacquiao is already in his head. If Floyd really felt he could beat Pacman as easy as his fans think why doesnt he just take the fight make 20 Million and show everyobody he's the best. Im so tired of hearing about even playing field. When Pacquiao has been whiipin the ass of all these bigger welterweights the last two years was that an even playing field? Hell no he was giving up 10-15 pounds every fight. Would Mayweather ever give up that kind of weight disparity. Hell No. All he wants to do is stack the deck to his advantage. Making Marquez fight at 145. Watch what Pacquiao does to Marquez at 145. Floyd is very skilled but thats only gojng to get you so far against another guy who also has skills speed and power. Does anyone believe that Pacquiao is not going to hit mayweather? If old man Mosley can clock Floyd what do you think Pacquiao is going to do. You Floyd fans must not be watching the common opponent fights between the two. So far it hasnt even been close. Pacquioa has destroyed the same opponents that it takes Floyd 9,10,or 12 rounds to beat. Floyds got a pistol and Pacquiao's got a Bazooka. Which would you rather have in a fight.
it doesnt help at all, all it does is speed up the process of building muscle and it actually made me sick all it gave me was awful needle marks all over my arms and legs and my estrogen levels was out of control. I benefited more with food than taking steriods.
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Quote Originally Posted by frank the tank:
so would you say steroids helps at all?
it doesnt help at all, all it does is speed up the process of building muscle and it actually made me sick all it gave me was awful needle marks all over my arms and legs and my estrogen levels was out of control. I benefited more with food than taking steriods.
All I know is Ive never seen a boxer who is suppose to be the best pond 4 pound demand that his opponent take drug test over and above what the Nevada State Athletic Commission demands. Pacquiao has never tested positive for any illegal substance, so its just ignorant for anyone to suggest he's doping without proof. The fact that this is such an issue with Mayweather tells me Pacquiao is already in his head. If Floyd really felt he could beat Pacman as easy as his fans think why doesnt he just take the fight make 20 Million and show everyobody he's the best. Im so tired of hearing about even playing field. When Pacquiao has been whiipin the ass of all these bigger welterweights the last two years was that an even playing field? Hell no he was giving up 10-15 pounds every fight. Would Mayweather ever give up that kind of weight disparity. Hell No. All he wants to do is stack the deck to his advantage. Making Marquez fight at 145. Watch what Pacquiao does to Marquez at 145. Floyd is very skilled but thats only gojng to get you so far against another guy who also has skills speed and power. Does anyone believe that Pacquiao is not going to hit mayweather? If old man Mosley can clock Floyd what do you think Pacquiao is going to do. You Floyd fans must not be watching the common opponent fights between the two. So far it hasnt even been close. Pacquioa has destroyed the same opponents that it takes Floyd 9,10,or 12 rounds to beat. Floyds got a pistol and Pacquiao's got a Bazooka. Which would you rather have in a fight.
You silly, silly man... did you believe that stupid bullshit when "Big Mac" and "Slammin" Sammy were hitting baseballs 550 feet? What a ridiculousness statement. That's the weakest argument you morons have - "didn't test positive, therefore he is clean." It isn't a court of law stupid, it's the court of common sense.
It isn't "steroids" he is doing. Ignorant people blanket all PED's under the "steroid" banner, while nothing could be further from the truth. Look into HGH and blood doping. Read up, form an opinion, THEN talk.
Moving on, for those talking about common opponents, Floyd fought Mosley, Hatton, DLH BEFORE Manny. Manny handpicked Floyd's sloppy seconds. Stop talking out of your asses when mentioning this.
MOST importantly - MANNY backed out of this fight. Floyd (ask any credible boxing writer or nsider) had agreed in principle to the fight. It was the PACQUIAO camp that has hindered this fight. 100% verifiable FACT.
Finally, I would bet Pacquiao in this fight. However, not because his resume is better (it isn't) or because I believe he is doping. (I do, but it doesn't matter) If you're going to argue about these two, you must first:
1. Know your facts.
2. Support your facts with truth, not regurgitated bullshit you hear somewhere else.
3. String together a couple of thoughts that make sense.
Class dismissed.
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Quote Originally Posted by cubman:
All I know is Ive never seen a boxer who is suppose to be the best pond 4 pound demand that his opponent take drug test over and above what the Nevada State Athletic Commission demands. Pacquiao has never tested positive for any illegal substance, so its just ignorant for anyone to suggest he's doping without proof. The fact that this is such an issue with Mayweather tells me Pacquiao is already in his head. If Floyd really felt he could beat Pacman as easy as his fans think why doesnt he just take the fight make 20 Million and show everyobody he's the best. Im so tired of hearing about even playing field. When Pacquiao has been whiipin the ass of all these bigger welterweights the last two years was that an even playing field? Hell no he was giving up 10-15 pounds every fight. Would Mayweather ever give up that kind of weight disparity. Hell No. All he wants to do is stack the deck to his advantage. Making Marquez fight at 145. Watch what Pacquiao does to Marquez at 145. Floyd is very skilled but thats only gojng to get you so far against another guy who also has skills speed and power. Does anyone believe that Pacquiao is not going to hit mayweather? If old man Mosley can clock Floyd what do you think Pacquiao is going to do. You Floyd fans must not be watching the common opponent fights between the two. So far it hasnt even been close. Pacquioa has destroyed the same opponents that it takes Floyd 9,10,or 12 rounds to beat. Floyds got a pistol and Pacquiao's got a Bazooka. Which would you rather have in a fight.
You silly, silly man... did you believe that stupid bullshit when "Big Mac" and "Slammin" Sammy were hitting baseballs 550 feet? What a ridiculousness statement. That's the weakest argument you morons have - "didn't test positive, therefore he is clean." It isn't a court of law stupid, it's the court of common sense.
It isn't "steroids" he is doing. Ignorant people blanket all PED's under the "steroid" banner, while nothing could be further from the truth. Look into HGH and blood doping. Read up, form an opinion, THEN talk.
Moving on, for those talking about common opponents, Floyd fought Mosley, Hatton, DLH BEFORE Manny. Manny handpicked Floyd's sloppy seconds. Stop talking out of your asses when mentioning this.
MOST importantly - MANNY backed out of this fight. Floyd (ask any credible boxing writer or nsider) had agreed in principle to the fight. It was the PACQUIAO camp that has hindered this fight. 100% verifiable FACT.
Finally, I would bet Pacquiao in this fight. However, not because his resume is better (it isn't) or because I believe he is doping. (I do, but it doesn't matter) If you're going to argue about these two, you must first:
1. Know your facts.
2. Support your facts with truth, not regurgitated bullshit you hear somewhere else.
3. String together a couple of thoughts that make sense.
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