This is a very simple issue. If you have nothing to hide and you have potentially 40 million in front of you, you take the test and just laugh it off.
Instead Pacquiao is now threatening a law suit for defamation. Who the hell is he kidding? Mayweather or Golden Boy has not accused him of anything. It's Mayweather's father who I think made those comments.
This is really not looking good for the Pac Man. People are now going to start wondering if he's been clean all these years.
I think that for the sake of the sport he should just take the drug tests.
In the end it won't matter, because Mayweather is still going to soundly beat him.
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This is a very simple issue. If you have nothing to hide and you have potentially 40 million in front of you, you take the test and just laugh it off.
Instead Pacquiao is now threatening a law suit for defamation. Who the hell is he kidding? Mayweather or Golden Boy has not accused him of anything. It's Mayweather's father who I think made those comments.
This is really not looking good for the Pac Man. People are now going to start wondering if he's been clean all these years.
I think that for the sake of the sport he should just take the drug tests.
In the end it won't matter, because Mayweather is still going to soundly beat him.
been a big pac fan of late as have cashed his last two, but it does seem a bit odd- 106 to 146 ,,doesnt look like he has gotten a whole lot taller- probably just pre-fight posing tho for a sept. date between the two, I was always of the belief that this was coming together too soon anyway for the sales/promo/marketing machine to work it's magic
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been a big pac fan of late as have cashed his last two, but it does seem a bit odd- 106 to 146 ,,doesnt look like he has gotten a whole lot taller- probably just pre-fight posing tho for a sept. date between the two, I was always of the belief that this was coming together too soon anyway for the sales/promo/marketing machine to work it's magic
richard shaeffer. sr, and roger have interviews which has accusations most with filipino journalists... pacmans reputation was really hurt by this issue big time especially he is running for congress. i believe he can get a lot of money especially if manny would take drug test now for evidence in his case and not for mayweather pusposes. he can sue for 10 yrs worth of hardwork tarnished etc.
i think its not that its just a blood test but i think mayweathers way of doing it is like pushing manny around, follow my orders to get to fight me blah blah... i think its an ego thing too for manny not to just follow easily. but on the other hand, manny has agreed to do every test for as long as it does not make a difference in the fight.
manny wants to protect himself in the ring by not submitting to a procedure that would make him weak, what the point of training to be strong if in the end a simple needle would make your arm weak or less than 100%. he knows 1 week before he can manage but fight night itself no. i hope they meet at 3 days before
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richard shaeffer. sr, and roger have interviews which has accusations most with filipino journalists... pacmans reputation was really hurt by this issue big time especially he is running for congress. i believe he can get a lot of money especially if manny would take drug test now for evidence in his case and not for mayweather pusposes. he can sue for 10 yrs worth of hardwork tarnished etc.
i think its not that its just a blood test but i think mayweathers way of doing it is like pushing manny around, follow my orders to get to fight me blah blah... i think its an ego thing too for manny not to just follow easily. but on the other hand, manny has agreed to do every test for as long as it does not make a difference in the fight.
manny wants to protect himself in the ring by not submitting to a procedure that would make him weak, what the point of training to be strong if in the end a simple needle would make your arm weak or less than 100%. he knows 1 week before he can manage but fight night itself no. i hope they meet at 3 days before
richard shaeffer. sr, and roger have interviews which has accusations most with filipino journalists... pacmans reputation was really hurt by this issue big time especially he is running for congress. i believe he can get a lot of money especially if manny would take drug test now for evidence in his case and not for mayweather pusposes. he can sue for 10 yrs worth of hardwork tarnished etc.
i think its not that its just a blood test but i think mayweathers way of doing it is like pushing manny around, follow my orders to get to fight me blah blah... i think its an ego thing too for manny not to just follow easily. but on the other hand, manny has agreed to do every test for as long as it does not make a difference in the fight.
manny wants to protect himself in the ring by not submitting to a procedure that would make him weak, what the point of training to be strong if in the end a simple needle would make your arm weak or less than 100%. he knows 1 week before he can manage but fight night itself no. i hope they meet at 3 days before
Couldn't agree more
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Quote Originally Posted by tOOT3r:
richard shaeffer. sr, and roger have interviews which has accusations most with filipino journalists... pacmans reputation was really hurt by this issue big time especially he is running for congress. i believe he can get a lot of money especially if manny would take drug test now for evidence in his case and not for mayweather pusposes. he can sue for 10 yrs worth of hardwork tarnished etc.
i think its not that its just a blood test but i think mayweathers way of doing it is like pushing manny around, follow my orders to get to fight me blah blah... i think its an ego thing too for manny not to just follow easily. but on the other hand, manny has agreed to do every test for as long as it does not make a difference in the fight.
manny wants to protect himself in the ring by not submitting to a procedure that would make him weak, what the point of training to be strong if in the end a simple needle would make your arm weak or less than 100%. he knows 1 week before he can manage but fight night itself no. i hope they meet at 3 days before
Not sure what you're referring to.. I'm a big Pacquiao fan if that wasn't obvious enough haha, but yeah I've cashed in huge on him for the past 3 years or so, been at the last 2 fights as well.
If you're asking if I think that Floyd's reputation is gonna suffer from this then yeah i definitely think so. To me its obvious how much of a coward he is, damn shame cause he has so much talent in the ring.
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Quote Originally Posted by nc1capper:
kng henry ,,same thing for floyd tho right
Not sure what you're referring to.. I'm a big Pacquiao fan if that wasn't obvious enough haha, but yeah I've cashed in huge on him for the past 3 years or so, been at the last 2 fights as well.
If you're asking if I think that Floyd's reputation is gonna suffer from this then yeah i definitely think so. To me its obvious how much of a coward he is, damn shame cause he has so much talent in the ring.
nc capper, if by same thing you meant, the procedure, its up to floyds discretion if he wants to needle himself during the fight, but as for pacman, by not doing it does not mean he is hiding something. he just knows himself that he knows it will make a difference. its like will you go into war if u know your guns are defective. same as with an arm needled during fight night it is not 100% therefore why suffer the possibility of not being 100% during the fight of ur career.
if ur talking about lawsuit, there is nothing floyd can file against manny, manny has been on the defensive all along and never said anything about mayweather except he has a big mouth haha
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nc capper, if by same thing you meant, the procedure, its up to floyds discretion if he wants to needle himself during the fight, but as for pacman, by not doing it does not mean he is hiding something. he just knows himself that he knows it will make a difference. its like will you go into war if u know your guns are defective. same as with an arm needled during fight night it is not 100% therefore why suffer the possibility of not being 100% during the fight of ur career.
if ur talking about lawsuit, there is nothing floyd can file against manny, manny has been on the defensive all along and never said anything about mayweather except he has a big mouth haha
kind of agree, was more refering to the fact that floyd would have the same shot at the same time and feel the same after effects- seems they would equal out, not sure if im phrasing that the right way
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kind of agree, was more refering to the fact that floyd would have the same shot at the same time and feel the same after effects- seems they would equal out, not sure if im phrasing that the right way
kind of agree, was more refering to the fact that floyd would have the same shot at the same time and feel the same after effects- seems they would equal out, not sure if im phrasing that the right way
Oh ok I see your point. Guess you're right but the fact is Floyd is trying to get under Manny's skin and has no evidence for his accusations. Manny has said he doesn't like having blood drawn, it weakens him, cant blame him for not wanting to deal with this a day or 2 before the fight.
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Quote Originally Posted by nc1capper:
kind of agree, was more refering to the fact that floyd would have the same shot at the same time and feel the same after effects- seems they would equal out, not sure if im phrasing that the right way
Oh ok I see your point. Guess you're right but the fact is Floyd is trying to get under Manny's skin and has no evidence for his accusations. Manny has said he doesn't like having blood drawn, it weakens him, cant blame him for not wanting to deal with this a day or 2 before the fight.
Guys, Manny's rise in weight class and weight gain is about 40 lbs in 9
yrs, which is not unheard of in regular life. The fact he has won in 7
weight classes is more a testament to his work ethic and start at 105
or whatever. Sure, a guy going from 175 to 215 and dominating 7
classes on the way is harder to believe than a puny 105 lber gaining 40
lbs in 9 long yrs. East Asians are known to be late bloomers and gain
most of their weight between ages 21 and 30 anyway, which is the time
frame we're talking about for Manny's rise in strength.
I think the whole weight gain thing is way overblown. There are freak
athletes in every sport. Michael Jordan was only 6'6" in a league full
of guys w/similar builds yet MJ could hang in there for like a full sec
or 2 longer than other guys could it seemed. Wayne Gretzky was a
normal looking guy who just had something about his gm that was
untouchable.
Maybe Manny is just one of those special guys?
George Foreman fought into his late 40's which is freakish for a
boxer. Bernard Hopkins is still extremely sharp into his early to mid
40's which is unheard of in boxing. No one is questioning those guys
for their astonishing age-defying feats, so why question Manny who is a
rare commodity who actually tried to climb 7 weight classes and
happened to be successful at it?
There are just special, freakish type guys in sports, and I truly believe that Manny is one of them.
Stop the hating!!!
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Guys, Manny's rise in weight class and weight gain is about 40 lbs in 9
yrs, which is not unheard of in regular life. The fact he has won in 7
weight classes is more a testament to his work ethic and start at 105
or whatever. Sure, a guy going from 175 to 215 and dominating 7
classes on the way is harder to believe than a puny 105 lber gaining 40
lbs in 9 long yrs. East Asians are known to be late bloomers and gain
most of their weight between ages 21 and 30 anyway, which is the time
frame we're talking about for Manny's rise in strength.
I think the whole weight gain thing is way overblown. There are freak
athletes in every sport. Michael Jordan was only 6'6" in a league full
of guys w/similar builds yet MJ could hang in there for like a full sec
or 2 longer than other guys could it seemed. Wayne Gretzky was a
normal looking guy who just had something about his gm that was
untouchable.
Maybe Manny is just one of those special guys?
George Foreman fought into his late 40's which is freakish for a
boxer. Bernard Hopkins is still extremely sharp into his early to mid
40's which is unheard of in boxing. No one is questioning those guys
for their astonishing age-defying feats, so why question Manny who is a
rare commodity who actually tried to climb 7 weight classes and
happened to be successful at it?
There are just special, freakish type guys in sports, and I truly believe that Manny is one of them.
Guys, Manny's rise in weight class and weight gain is about 40 lbs in 9
yrs, which is not unheard of in regular life. The fact he has won in 7
weight classes is more a testament to his work ethic and start at 105
or whatever. Sure, a guy going from 175 to 215 and dominating 7
classes on the way is harder to believe than a puny 105 lber gaining 40
lbs in 9 long yrs. East Asians are known to be late bloomers and gain
most of their weight between ages 21 and 30 anyway, which is the time
frame we're talking about for Manny's rise in strength.
I think the whole weight gain thing is way overblown. There are freak
athletes in every sport. Michael Jordan was only 6'6" in a league full
of guys w/similar builds yet MJ could hang in there for like a full sec
or 2 longer than other guys could it seemed. Wayne Gretzky was a
normal looking guy who just had something about his gm that was
untouchable.
Maybe Manny is just one of those special guys?
George Foreman fought into his late 40's which is freakish for a
boxer. Bernard Hopkins is still extremely sharp into his early to mid
40's which is unheard of in boxing. No one is questioning those guys
for their astonishing age-defying feats, so why question Manny who is a
rare commodity who actually tried to climb 7 weight classes and
happened to be successful at it?
There are just special, freakish type guys in sports, and I truly believe that Manny is one of them.
Stop the hating!!!
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Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:
Guys, Manny's rise in weight class and weight gain is about 40 lbs in 9
yrs, which is not unheard of in regular life. The fact he has won in 7
weight classes is more a testament to his work ethic and start at 105
or whatever. Sure, a guy going from 175 to 215 and dominating 7
classes on the way is harder to believe than a puny 105 lber gaining 40
lbs in 9 long yrs. East Asians are known to be late bloomers and gain
most of their weight between ages 21 and 30 anyway, which is the time
frame we're talking about for Manny's rise in strength.
I think the whole weight gain thing is way overblown. There are freak
athletes in every sport. Michael Jordan was only 6'6" in a league full
of guys w/similar builds yet MJ could hang in there for like a full sec
or 2 longer than other guys could it seemed. Wayne Gretzky was a
normal looking guy who just had something about his gm that was
untouchable.
Maybe Manny is just one of those special guys?
George Foreman fought into his late 40's which is freakish for a
boxer. Bernard Hopkins is still extremely sharp into his early to mid
40's which is unheard of in boxing. No one is questioning those guys
for their astonishing age-defying feats, so why question Manny who is a
rare commodity who actually tried to climb 7 weight classes and
happened to be successful at it?
There are just special, freakish type guys in sports, and I truly believe that Manny is one of them.
I'm a Mayweather fan which should mean something to the green cappers because I'm saying Manny has NOT gained weight by using PED's.
The writer of the article is obviously bias, but the way he breaks down the weights on the night of the fight you can see that Manny was making very small gains between fights. Those figures are facts and can't be disputed. He would just shrink less, the muscle was already there. This also explains the allegations of how he could be so ripped after just putting on muscle.
Reiterating, Mayweather fan here...this post is a good example that there are non biased fans out there.
Now is he innocent of using a shrinker like Chavez Jr just got busted for? Hard to say. MMA guys love shrinkers too. Vargas got caught using a shrinker I believe. I'm not saying he did or didn't just that it can't be ruled out yet.
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The weight gains can be explained here:
https://theboxingtruth.com/article.php?id=1310
I'm a Mayweather fan which should mean something to the green cappers because I'm saying Manny has NOT gained weight by using PED's.
The writer of the article is obviously bias, but the way he breaks down the weights on the night of the fight you can see that Manny was making very small gains between fights. Those figures are facts and can't be disputed. He would just shrink less, the muscle was already there. This also explains the allegations of how he could be so ripped after just putting on muscle.
Reiterating, Mayweather fan here...this post is a good example that there are non biased fans out there.
Now is he innocent of using a shrinker like Chavez Jr just got busted for? Hard to say. MMA guys love shrinkers too. Vargas got caught using a shrinker I believe. I'm not saying he did or didn't just that it can't be ruled out yet.
I am of the personal opinion that I don't believe Manny took PEDs knowingly. However, given the age that we live in where PEDs are at the forefront, I don't think it's too much to ask for the elite athletes to go more stringent testing. You add to that the fact that Manny has defied the accepted principles of boxing where a fighter usually does not carry his strength and power up to higher divisions, then you have a situation where why not just take the tests. If you are truly clean, I know it might seem like games on the part of Mayweather, but you defuse this bomb very easily. Just take the tests.
If you are going to ask the fans to fork over about 60 bucks or more to watch you fight, why not give the fans the assurance that everyone involved is clean.
I don't think is too much to ask.
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I am of the personal opinion that I don't believe Manny took PEDs knowingly. However, given the age that we live in where PEDs are at the forefront, I don't think it's too much to ask for the elite athletes to go more stringent testing. You add to that the fact that Manny has defied the accepted principles of boxing where a fighter usually does not carry his strength and power up to higher divisions, then you have a situation where why not just take the tests. If you are truly clean, I know it might seem like games on the part of Mayweather, but you defuse this bomb very easily. Just take the tests.
If you are going to ask the fans to fork over about 60 bucks or more to watch you fight, why not give the fans the assurance that everyone involved is clean.
How come mayweather didnt ask Marquez to take the olympic style blood test? Why should pacman? Is pacman any different from marquez? It doesnt make any sense not unless mayweather is trying to duck him?
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How come mayweather didnt ask Marquez to take the olympic style blood test? Why should pacman? Is pacman any different from marquez? It doesnt make any sense not unless mayweather is trying to duck him?
sunset you obviously did not read my previous post carefully.
If you are clean and have nothing to hide, you take the tests. Plain and simple. The whole excuse about becoming weak is just that, a weak excuse.
Juan your obviously stupid you have to obey by the nevada rules not the olympic rules you dummy!! Blood test in boxing is sanctioned under the nevada state athletic commission rules not the olympic rules get your ass out of your mothers anus you fool!!
Olympic blood test is sanctioned under The International Olympic Committee yo bitch!!
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Quote Originally Posted by juan110470:
sunset you obviously did not read my previous post carefully.
If you are clean and have nothing to hide, you take the tests. Plain and simple. The whole excuse about becoming weak is just that, a weak excuse.
Juan your obviously stupid you have to obey by the nevada rules not the olympic rules you dummy!! Blood test in boxing is sanctioned under the nevada state athletic commission rules not the olympic rules get your ass out of your mothers anus you fool!!
Olympic blood test is sanctioned under The International Olympic Committee yo bitch!!
How come mayweather didnt ask Marquez to take the olympic style blood test? Why should pacman? Is pacman any different from marquez? It doesnt make any sense not unless mayweather is trying to duck him?
Juan your obviously stupid you have to obey by the nevada rules not the olympic rules you dummy!! Blood test in boxing is sanctioned under the nevada state athletic commission rules not the olympic rules get your ass out of your mothers anus you fool!! Olympic blood test is sanctioned under The International Olympic Committee yo bitch!!
Because Marquez career took a different path and wasn't knocking people out like Pacquiao has been. Manny has also had more fights in higher divisions to do this.
Yes, Pacman IS different from Marquez. Don't need a degree for that one which is surprises me YOU didn't get it.
Please tell me HOW Mayweather is trying to "duck" Pacman? So far he has met every single demand Manny has asked for...i.e.:
Weight---------------------------------------Negotiated Over the weight Penalty/fine --------------Negotiated Gloves---------------------------------------Negotiated
All Floyd wants is the best testing methods out, which just so happens to be the Olympic style tests.
There is a really cool thing, you might have heard of it, but from what I've read...you don't. Its called a a Negotiating Table...ever heard of it? So yeah...they don't have to adhere to shit if its up on the negotiating table.
Its people like you that ruin this site. Why are you jumping all over that guy? Dude wasn't being a dick or anything...make you feel like a man to be a dick to someone hiding behind a computer monitor?
Does you mammy know your on an adult forum? Somebody needs a time out...
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Quote Originally Posted by sunset:
How come mayweather didnt ask Marquez to take the olympic style blood test? Why should pacman? Is pacman any different from marquez? It doesnt make any sense not unless mayweather is trying to duck him?
Juan your obviously stupid you have to obey by the nevada rules not the olympic rules you dummy!! Blood test in boxing is sanctioned under the nevada state athletic commission rules not the olympic rules get your ass out of your mothers anus you fool!! Olympic blood test is sanctioned under The International Olympic Committee yo bitch!!
Because Marquez career took a different path and wasn't knocking people out like Pacquiao has been. Manny has also had more fights in higher divisions to do this.
Yes, Pacman IS different from Marquez. Don't need a degree for that one which is surprises me YOU didn't get it.
Please tell me HOW Mayweather is trying to "duck" Pacman? So far he has met every single demand Manny has asked for...i.e.:
Weight---------------------------------------Negotiated Over the weight Penalty/fine --------------Negotiated Gloves---------------------------------------Negotiated
All Floyd wants is the best testing methods out, which just so happens to be the Olympic style tests.
There is a really cool thing, you might have heard of it, but from what I've read...you don't. Its called a a Negotiating Table...ever heard of it? So yeah...they don't have to adhere to shit if its up on the negotiating table.
Its people like you that ruin this site. Why are you jumping all over that guy? Dude wasn't being a dick or anything...make you feel like a man to be a dick to someone hiding behind a computer monitor?
Does you mammy know your on an adult forum? Somebody needs a time out...
Manny is a puss. Giving blood a day or two before fight night is not gonna make him nor his arm weak. Floyd will be taking the exact same freaking blood test. Stop being a puss Manny and man up. Millions are at stake idiot.
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Manny is a puss. Giving blood a day or two before fight night is not gonna make him nor his arm weak. Floyd will be taking the exact same freaking blood test. Stop being a puss Manny and man up. Millions are at stake idiot.
How come mayweather didnt ask Marquez to take the olympic style blood test? Why should pacman? Is pacman any different from marquez? It doesnt make any sense not unless mayweather is trying to duck him?
Your statement makes no sense. Is Marquez going up weight dominating bigger opponents who are champions?
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Quote Originally Posted by sunset:
How come mayweather didnt ask Marquez to take the olympic style blood test? Why should pacman? Is pacman any different from marquez? It doesnt make any sense not unless mayweather is trying to duck him?
Your statement makes no sense. Is Marquez going up weight dominating bigger opponents who are champions?
Pac has a very underrated right hook and jab and can land from all angles. Freddie Roach knows that the lunging left leaves Pac exposed and they will game plan accordingly. Pac's specialty is finding people from any angle and if Floyd runs he will lose rounds on the scorecard against Pac's constant onslaught. Floyd has never been in the ring with a guy as busy, as relentless, as deceptively strong (DLH's power was done by Cinco De Mayo 07), and who can find you from all angles. Floyd has no choice but to stand and trade because retreating will do no good against Pac whose stamina is second to none. Have I mentioned the heart of Pac?
Floyd is a mega-talent and Pac has not see the likes of a defensive, technically sound fighter as good as Floyd is. Floyd is extremely fast, can deliver and retreat w/the best of them, and can counterpunch like few in history. The problem is he has little power and will not KO or TKO Pac. Floyd's only chance is if it goes to the cards and the judges believe he has not retreated enough to take the win away from him. We all know he doesn't wana stand and trade w/Pac but in my mind he will most likely lose a decision unless he does that.
Good luck w/that.
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Pac has a very underrated right hook and jab and can land from all angles. Freddie Roach knows that the lunging left leaves Pac exposed and they will game plan accordingly. Pac's specialty is finding people from any angle and if Floyd runs he will lose rounds on the scorecard against Pac's constant onslaught. Floyd has never been in the ring with a guy as busy, as relentless, as deceptively strong (DLH's power was done by Cinco De Mayo 07), and who can find you from all angles. Floyd has no choice but to stand and trade because retreating will do no good against Pac whose stamina is second to none. Have I mentioned the heart of Pac?
Floyd is a mega-talent and Pac has not see the likes of a defensive, technically sound fighter as good as Floyd is. Floyd is extremely fast, can deliver and retreat w/the best of them, and can counterpunch like few in history. The problem is he has little power and will not KO or TKO Pac. Floyd's only chance is if it goes to the cards and the judges believe he has not retreated enough to take the win away from him. We all know he doesn't wana stand and trade w/Pac but in my mind he will most likely lose a decision unless he does that.
Because Marquez career took a different path and wasn't knocking people out like Pacquiao has been. Manny has also had more fights in higher divisions to do this.
Yes, Pacman IS different from Marquez. Don't need a degree for that one which is surprises me YOU didn't get it.
Please tell me HOW Mayweather is trying to "duck" Pacman? So far he has met every single demand Manny has asked for...i.e.:
Weight---------------------------------------Negotiated Over the weight Penalty/fine --------------Negotiated Gloves---------------------------------------Negotiated
All Floyd wants is the best testing methods out, which just so happens to be the Olympic style tests.
There is a really cool thing, you might have heard of it, but from what I've read...you don't. Its called a a Negotiating Table...ever heard of it? So yeah...they don't have to adhere to shit if its up on the negotiating table.
Its people like you that ruin this site. Why are you jumping all over that guy? Dude wasn't being a dick or anything...make you feel like a man to be a dick to someone hiding behind a computer monitor?
Does you mammy know your on an adult forum? Somebody needs a time out...
Yet it was PBF's camp who said either their way or the high way regarding the blood tests. That doesn't sound like "negotiating" with me
They've eased their stance on the matter after realizing Floyd is about to blow at a chance at 40 million.
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Quote Originally Posted by McNulty:
Because Marquez career took a different path and wasn't knocking people out like Pacquiao has been. Manny has also had more fights in higher divisions to do this.
Yes, Pacman IS different from Marquez. Don't need a degree for that one which is surprises me YOU didn't get it.
Please tell me HOW Mayweather is trying to "duck" Pacman? So far he has met every single demand Manny has asked for...i.e.:
Weight---------------------------------------Negotiated Over the weight Penalty/fine --------------Negotiated Gloves---------------------------------------Negotiated
All Floyd wants is the best testing methods out, which just so happens to be the Olympic style tests.
There is a really cool thing, you might have heard of it, but from what I've read...you don't. Its called a a Negotiating Table...ever heard of it? So yeah...they don't have to adhere to shit if its up on the negotiating table.
Its people like you that ruin this site. Why are you jumping all over that guy? Dude wasn't being a dick or anything...make you feel like a man to be a dick to someone hiding behind a computer monitor?
Does you mammy know your on an adult forum? Somebody needs a time out...
Yet it was PBF's camp who said either their way or the high way regarding the blood tests. That doesn't sound like "negotiating" with me
They've eased their stance on the matter after realizing Floyd is about to blow at a chance at 40 million.
I still think that the fight is going to happen. Both TR and GBP are just trying to sell more tickets and created this controversy. For boxing fans i hope somewhere along the line a resolution between two camps takes place and let the fight happens. Too much $$$$ was at risk here for this magnitude of a fight not to happen. Its funny how Ellerbe the same guy thats promoting Berto not asking the same Olympic sytle drug testing on Mosley since he is a known steroid user. Am i missing something on GBP and Mayweather camp? Talk about even playing bullcrap field. LOL
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I still think that the fight is going to happen. Both TR and GBP are just trying to sell more tickets and created this controversy. For boxing fans i hope somewhere along the line a resolution between two camps takes place and let the fight happens. Too much $$$$ was at risk here for this magnitude of a fight not to happen. Its funny how Ellerbe the same guy thats promoting Berto not asking the same Olympic sytle drug testing on Mosley since he is a known steroid user. Am i missing something on GBP and Mayweather camp? Talk about even playing bullcrap field. LOL
I still think that the fight is going to happen. Both TR and GBP are just trying to sell more tickets and created this controversy. For boxing fans i hope somewhere along the line a resolution between two camps takes place and let the fight happens. Too much $$$$ was at risk here for this magnitude of a fight not to happen. Its funny how Ellerbe the same guy thats promoting Berto not asking the same Olympic sytle drug testing on Mosley since he is a known steroid user. Am i missing something on GBP and Mayweather camp? Talk about even playing bullcrap field. LOL
I believe it's to generate more hype also, to create bad BLOOD that was never there. Only bad blood truly there is Oscar and ARUM. So they needed to create this fiasco!
I do think it went too far and now it's out of hand.. Floyd has never pulled a Tactic like this before.. knowing Oscar he's behind all of this.
Floyd just wants the $$$, Oscar wants to show Arum who the man is and who is calling the shot.
Because in Vegas Floyd doesn't have a promoters license, so Oscar promotes for him in Vegas.
Oh on Andre Berto you're correct why wouldn't they ask for testing on Mosley cannot sue him for requesting.. since.. he has been caught before.
If you've seen Andre Berto fight, I think you know he doesn't belong in the ring with Shane Mosley (with or without steroids). Which Mosley says he didn't intentionally take his wife accidentally dropped it in his cheerios lol!
Luis Collazo really beat Berto and got robbed! Shane demolished Collazo in a 12 round wax job!
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Quote Originally Posted by Eric_Teaman:
I still think that the fight is going to happen. Both TR and GBP are just trying to sell more tickets and created this controversy. For boxing fans i hope somewhere along the line a resolution between two camps takes place and let the fight happens. Too much $$$$ was at risk here for this magnitude of a fight not to happen. Its funny how Ellerbe the same guy thats promoting Berto not asking the same Olympic sytle drug testing on Mosley since he is a known steroid user. Am i missing something on GBP and Mayweather camp? Talk about even playing bullcrap field. LOL
I believe it's to generate more hype also, to create bad BLOOD that was never there. Only bad blood truly there is Oscar and ARUM. So they needed to create this fiasco!
I do think it went too far and now it's out of hand.. Floyd has never pulled a Tactic like this before.. knowing Oscar he's behind all of this.
Floyd just wants the $$$, Oscar wants to show Arum who the man is and who is calling the shot.
Because in Vegas Floyd doesn't have a promoters license, so Oscar promotes for him in Vegas.
Oh on Andre Berto you're correct why wouldn't they ask for testing on Mosley cannot sue him for requesting.. since.. he has been caught before.
If you've seen Andre Berto fight, I think you know he doesn't belong in the ring with Shane Mosley (with or without steroids). Which Mosley says he didn't intentionally take his wife accidentally dropped it in his cheerios lol!
Luis Collazo really beat Berto and got robbed! Shane demolished Collazo in a 12 round wax job!
i have been following the fight gm for 2 decades and i know there is always tons of hype and it is usually fake, but guys THIS TIME IT IS REAL just like lennox lewis and hasim rahman (or has-been rahman) as lennox called him, those guys were not faking it and neither is Pac-Man, he is PISSED and this is for real
DO NOT be surprised if manny goes through pursuing the lawsuit all the way through the process and does NOT fight mayweather
he wants to make a statement and is sick and tired of being accused of taking PEDs
i will be VERY surprised if this fight goes on march 13
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i have been following the fight gm for 2 decades and i know there is always tons of hype and it is usually fake, but guys THIS TIME IT IS REAL just like lennox lewis and hasim rahman (or has-been rahman) as lennox called him, those guys were not faking it and neither is Pac-Man, he is PISSED and this is for real
DO NOT be surprised if manny goes through pursuing the lawsuit all the way through the process and does NOT fight mayweather
he wants to make a statement and is sick and tired of being accused of taking PEDs
i will be VERY surprised if this fight goes on march 13
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