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#26
Why at the sportsbooks do they have this fight listed for Mar 13 at the MGM grand? I thought this fight is definetly off.
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#28
Quote Originally Posted by gamble04:
Why at the sportsbooks do they have this fight listed for Mar 13 at the MGM grand? I thought this fight is definetly off.
Why at the sportsbooks do they have this fight listed for Mar 13 at the MGM grand? I thought this fight is definetly off.
The books want people to bet it. This way you're putting your money into their hands so they can do what banks do -- invest it. They can always refund the bets if the fight is canceled or moved from Mar 13. Also, they want people who don't have offshore book accts to go ahead and open an acct and bet the fight now. If you open an acct simply because you see the fight listed on their menu, it means your sending them money and you'll most likely bet the remaining money that you didn't bet on the fight, on other sporting events....and then you'll lose even more money than you would have if they did not have the fight listed. Get it?
Oh, and since Feb is a short month of only 28 days, the fight is set to go off in just over 9.5 wks. I believe this fight will NOT be made for Mar 13.
Sorry fight fans, I'm just as disappointed as you are....
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#29
Quote Originally Posted by tOOT3r:
richard shaeffer. sr, and roger have interviews which has accusations most with filipino journalists... pacmans reputation was really hurt by this issue big time especially he is running for congress. i believe he can get a lot of money especially if manny would take drug test now for evidence in his case and not for mayweather pusposes. he can sue for 10 yrs worth of hardwork tarnished etc.
i think its not that its just a blood test but i think mayweathers way of doing it is like pushing manny around, follow my orders to get to fight me blah blah... i think its an ego thing too for manny not to just follow easily. but on the other hand, manny has agreed to do every test for as long as it does not make a difference in the fight.
manny wants to protect himself in the ring by not submitting to a procedure that would make him weak, what the point of training to be strong if in the end a simple needle would make your arm weak or less than 100%. he knows 1 week before he can manage but fight night itself no. i hope they meet at 3 days before
Bro it's a fucking prick on the arm that will only take minimal amount of blood not amounts for a blood transfusion 
Holy Shit Man don't believe everything you hear this isn't enough to make a fucking impact on your energy level the same day let alone a week after 
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#30
Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy:
i have been following the fight gm for 2 decades and i know there is always tons of hype and it is usually fake, but guys THIS TIME IT IS REAL just like lennox lewis and hasim rahman (or has-been rahman) as lennox called him, those guys were not faking it and neither is Pac-Man, he is PISSED and this is for real
DO NOT be surprised if manny goes through pursuing the lawsuit all the way through the process and does NOT fight mayweather
he wants to make a statement and is sick and tired of being accused of taking PEDs
i will be VERY surprised if this fight goes on march 13
i have been following the fight gm for 2 decades and i know there is always tons of hype and it is usually fake, but guys THIS TIME IT IS REAL just like lennox lewis and hasim rahman (or has-been rahman) as lennox called him, those guys were not faking it and neither is Pac-Man, he is PISSED and this is for real
DO NOT be surprised if manny goes through pursuing the lawsuit all the way through the process and does NOT fight mayweather
he wants to make a statement and is sick and tired of being accused of taking PEDs
i will be VERY surprised if this fight goes on march 13
If this is true take the blood test and we'll know now and in a few years when they have an HGH test
If not then he is not as worried about it as Mayweather who will take a blood test at the same time as Pac-Man
Floyd is willing to take the same test @ the same time yet nothing out of his mouth about being drained? Is he some kind of super fighter who is immune to the super energy draining needles
Nope he's just waiting for the test to be approved and the fight will be ON!
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#31
Some of you people don't seem to have any insight into the refusal.
Manny is indignant that at being accused of cheating when he believes there was no evidence of suspicion.
The fact that he has displayed prodigious striking power lately probably eludes him.
I mean, he thinks the public should just accept that is what he is capable of.
This is not an olympic games contest and other professional boxers have not been required to undergo any unusual tests so why should he this time?
If he were to admit to the special tests wouldn't he be admitting that his previous two bouts looked suspicious?
Indignant.
If you don't know what that word means, google it up.
Etymology
From Latin indignans, ppr. of indignari (“‘to consider as unworthy, be angry or displeased at’”) < in- (“‘privative’”) + dignari (“‘to consider as worthy’”) < dignus (“‘worthy’”).
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indignant (comparative more indignant, superlative most indignant)
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- Showing anger or indignation, especially at something unjust or wrong.
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#32
Quote Originally Posted by Coweringbeef:
Some of you people don't seem to have any insight into the refusal.
Manny is indignant that at being accused of cheating when he believes there was no evidence of suspicion.
The fact that he has displayed prodigious striking power lately probably eludes him.
I mean, he thinks the public should just accept that is what he is capable of.
This is not an olympic games contest and other professional boxers have not been required to undergo any unusual tests so why should he this time?
If he were to admit to the special tests wouldn't he be admitting that his previous two bouts looked suspicious?
Indignant.
If you don't know what that word means, google it up.
Etymology
From Latin indignans, ppr. of indignari (“‘to consider as unworthy, be angry or displeased at’”) < in- (“‘privative’”) + dignari (“‘to consider as worthy’”) < dignus (“‘worthy’”).
[edit] Adjective
indignant (comparative more indignant, superlative most indignant)
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Positive |
Comparative |
Superlative |
- Showing anger or indignation, especially at something unjust or wrong.
[edit] Synonyms
Are you missing the boat more than anybody I've heard speak in my life.
If he doesn't admit to the test it looks like he has something to hide and in the opposite direction if he admits to them and PASSES CLEAN nobody will ever talk about it again
I really can't believe that it's that hard to see.
It's like saying Barry Bonds shouldn't need to adhere to test when he's doing things that borderline seem unhuman! What he was doing also didn't have anything to do with Human safety which this does.
If he doesn't take the test now for whatever stupid reasons he can cough out he will look suspicious forever to all commonsense adults
key word: Sense (noun)
23. come to one\'s senses, to regain one/'s good judgement or realistic point of view; become reasonable.
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#33
not looking good........
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By Dan RafaelESPN.com
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After nine hours in mediation on Tuesday, the camps of Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr. did not reach a resolution in their effort to overcome their differences in finalizing a super fight between the top two pound-for-pound fighters in the world.
If a deal is reached, the welterweight title bout is supposed to take place March 13 at the MGM Grand in Las Vegas.
Top Rank's Bob Arum and Todd duBoef, along with their legal team, Golden Boy's Richard Schaefer, Oscar De La Hoya, their legal team, and Mayweather manager Al Haymon spent the day with mediator Daniel Weinstein at offices in Santa Monica, Calif., hoping to pave the way for potentially the richest fight in boxing history.
On Monday, Arum said the fighters were supposed to have been available by telephone.
After beginning the process at 9:30 a.m. PT and leaving at approximately 6:30 p.m. PT, no deal had been reached.
"Mediation is still ongoing," one of Top Rank's lawyers told ESPN Deportes' Jaime Mota.
Weinstein has placed a gag order on all parties.
It is unclear if the talks will resume on Wednesday.
When reached on his cell phone, Arum said he had no comment because of the mediator's gag order. DuBoef said the same thing in an e-mail to ESPN.com. Schaefer did not respond to a message.
Weinstein, a retired federal judge, knows the parties well. He mediated a June 2007 settlement when Top Rank and Golden Boy were embroiled in a series of lawsuits, including a brutal battle over ownership of the promotional rights to Pacquiao, who had signed contracts with both companies before eventually pledging his loyalty to Top Rank.
Under that agreement, the various lawsuits were dropped and Top Rank retained Pacquiao's promotional rights, with Golden Boy receiving a percentage of Top Rank's profits from his bouts.
The agreement worked well for the past two years as the companies co-promoted several major bouts, including Pacquiao-Ricky Hatton, Pacquiao-Juan Manuel Marquez II, Pacquiao-Marco Antonio Barrera II, Bernard Hopkins-Kelly Pavlik and Miguel Cotto-Shane Mosley.
But the bad blood boiled again during the final stages of negotiations for Pacquiao-Mayweather.
They had agreed to everything in the deal except for the method of drug testing for the boxers.
Although the Nevada State Athletic Commission, which would oversee the bout, requires only urine testing, Mayweather has insisted on random blood testing. Both sides have already agreed to unlimited random urine testing.
Pacquiao (50-3-2, 38 KOs), who didn't want any blood testing, agreed to take three blood tests: one during the week of the kickoff news conference, which would take place next week if they can make a deal, one random test to be conducted no later than 30 days before the fight and a final test in his dressing room after the fight. Mayweather (40-0, 25 KOs) would be subject to the same testing procedures.
Besides Weinstein trying to mediate a resolution to the drug testing issue, there is also the matter of the defamation lawsuit Pacquiao filed last week in Nevada U.S. District Court against Mayweather Jr., Schaefer, De La Hoya, Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather and Mayweather Promotions.
Pacquiao alleges that they made false and defamatory statements and sullied his reputation by accusing him of taking performance-enhancing drugs. Pacquiao denies he has ever used PEDs and has never failed a drug test.
At issue is also Golden Boy's continued involvement in Pacquaio's contract. With Golden Boy representing Mayweather and allegedly accusing Pacquiao of using performance enhancing drugs, Arum believes it has diminished Pacquiao and that Golden Boy should no longer be entitled to share in the money his bouts generate, especially when it also is making money off Mayweather.
If the mediation fails, Arum has repeatedly said he will match Pacquiao with junior middleweight titlist Yuri Foreman, whom he also promotes, on March 20 at the Thomas & Mack Center in Las Vegas so Pacquiao could attempt to win a title in a record-extending eighth weight division.
Mayweather could still fight on March 13 at the MGM Grand and potentially face former junior welterweight titlist Paulie Malignaggi.
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#34
Quote Originally Posted by juan110470:
I just read on espn.com that there is actual footage of Pacquiao taking a blood test 2 weeks before the Hatton fight.
I just read on espn.com that there is actual footage of Pacquiao taking a blood test 2 weeks before the Hatton fight.
Pacquiao will have no choice but to submit to the testing now. This fight gets done this week.
Not 2 weeks. He took the blood test 24 days before the fight with Hatton and Pac-Man accepted to shorten the window for a blood test to 24 days before the fight this time as well and Mayweather said no
Do you guys think that a professional boxer preparing for the fight of his life can see some outstanding results in a 20 days HGH cycle? Not trying to be a douche here, I just have no particular knowledge in this field.
20 days seems like a pretty damn short period of time!
Besides, it has to be assumed that Mayweather thinks that he is on HGH because most of the other steroids will be caught through urine tests, because they go through the kidneys and the liver.
I think Pac-Man is very clean and Mayweather is ducking here.
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#36
The books want people to keep betting on the event and if the event is cancelled, they get to hold the money for 3(?) months.
They figure this will encourage more deposits.
And if the event is rescheduled within 3 months of the original date, you don't get to reschedule your bet even though the venue, weightclass, gloves, sanctioning body etc could have changed.
The bookies like that!
I personally think that legally, they should be forced to refund the bet.
Concerning the drugs, well, I have a very average knowledge of Performance Enhancing drugs but the general understanding is that any drugs used will test positive the day after the event anyway.
If that's the case, then I think Floyd deserves his new nickname, Kentucky Floyd Mayweather.
kentucky FLOYD chicken
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#37
Quote Originally Posted by TennisCapper:
Not 2 weeks. He took the blood test 24 days before the fight with Hatton and Pac-Man accepted to shorten the window for a blood test to 24 days before the fight this time as well and Mayweather said no
Do you guys think that a professional boxer preparing for the fight of his life can see some outstanding results in a 20 days HGH cycle? Not trying to be a douche here, I just have no particular knowledge in this field.
20 days seems like a pretty damn short period of time!
Besides, it has to be assumed that Mayweather thinks that he is on HGH because most of the other steroids will be caught through urine tests, because they go through the kidneys and the liver.
I think Pac-Man is very clean and Mayweather is ducking here.
Not 2 weeks. He took the blood test 24 days before the fight with Hatton and Pac-Man accepted to shorten the window for a blood test to 24 days before the fight this time as well and Mayweather said no
Do you guys think that a professional boxer preparing for the fight of his life can see some outstanding results in a 20 days HGH cycle? Not trying to be a douche here, I just have no particular knowledge in this field.
20 days seems like a pretty damn short period of time!
Besides, it has to be assumed that Mayweather thinks that he is on HGH because most of the other steroids will be caught through urine tests, because they go through the kidneys and the liver.
I think Pac-Man is very clean and Mayweather is ducking here.
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Posted:
#38
Quote Originally Posted by Coweringbeef:
The books want people to keep betting on the event and if the event is cancelled, they get to hold the money for 3(?) months.
They figure this will encourage more deposits.
And if the event is rescheduled within 3 months of the original date, you don't get to reschedule your bet even though the venue, weightclass, gloves, sanctioning body etc could have changed.
The bookies like that!
I personally think that legally, they should be forced to refund the bet.
Concerning the drugs, well, I have a very average knowledge of Performance Enhancing drugs but the general understanding is that any drugs used will test positive the day after the event anyway.
If that's the case, then I think Floyd deserves his new nickname, Kentucky Floyd Mayweather.
kentucky FLOYD chicken
to my knowledge, IF a sporting event you be on is postponed, and ANYTHING changes even just the date, you get REFUNDED. books know that ANY change in the event is not just a risk to the bettor, but a risk to THEM as well.
i am going on record actually and saying that any wagers placed for the mar 13 bout WILL BE REFUNDED if they do NOT fight on mar 13.
quote me on that and call up any of the accredited sportsbooks who have the fight listed and see what they say.............
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Posted:
#39
Quote Originally Posted by TennisCapper:
Not 2 weeks. He took the blood test 24 days before the fight with Hatton and Pac-Man accepted to shorten the window for a blood test to 24 days before the fight this time as well and Mayweather said no
Do you guys think that a professional boxer preparing for the fight of his life can see some outstanding results in a 20 days HGH cycle? Not trying to be a douche here, I just have no particular knowledge in this field.
20 days seems like a pretty damn short period of time!
Besides, it has to be assumed that Mayweather thinks that he is on HGH because most of the other steroids will be caught through urine tests, because they go through the kidneys and the liver.
I think Pac-Man is very clean and Mayweather is ducking here.
Not 2 weeks. He took the blood test 24 days before the fight with Hatton and Pac-Man accepted to shorten the window for a blood test to 24 days before the fight this time as well and Mayweather said no
Do you guys think that a professional boxer preparing for the fight of his life can see some outstanding results in a 20 days HGH cycle? Not trying to be a douche here, I just have no particular knowledge in this field.
20 days seems like a pretty damn short period of time!
Besides, it has to be assumed that Mayweather thinks that he is on HGH because most of the other steroids will be caught through urine tests, because they go through the kidneys and the liver.
I think Pac-Man is very clean and Mayweather is ducking here.
couldn't agree more :p
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