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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 8:56 PM ET #26

    Exactly FB, Berto's logged a lot of sparring rounds vs upper echelon southpaws and I wouldn't call Collazo an top notch southpaw by any stretch.  He's good, but I just feel like Berto is a few levels above him.  Can't wait for this one to get going! 
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    Exactly FB, Berto's logged a lot of sparring rounds vs upper echelon southpaws and I wouldn't call Collazo an top notch southpaw by any stretch.  He's good, but I just feel like Berto is a few levels above him.  Can't wait for this one to get going! 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 8:59 PM ET #27

    Berto inside the distance for me too.  $200 to win $360.  Too fast and too strong.  Today will be Collazo's last day in the top ten.
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    Berto inside the distance for me too.  $200 to win $360.  Too fast and too strong.  Today will be Collazo's last day in the top ten.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 9:14 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:

    Good to see we are all riding together tonight.  Should be a fun one.  I think Collazo's last fight against the journeyman Jordan is kind of indicative of where he is now.  From a couple of the recaps that I read Jordan was able to touch Collazo up pretty easily early on.  Also, I don't think the southpaw factor will confuse Berto for very long, from what I read he has sparred Winky over 500 rounds over the past few years; that's some pretty good southpaw sparring experience.

     

    Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:

    Good to see we are all riding together tonight.  Should be a fun one.  I think Collazo's last fight against the journeyman Jordan is kind of indicative of where he is now.  From a couple of the recaps that I read Jordan was able to touch Collazo up pretty easily early on.  Also, I don't think the southpaw factor will confuse Berto for very long, from what I read he has sparred Winky over 500 rounds over the past few years; that's some pretty good southpaw sparring experience.

     

    Well said.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 9:31 PM ET #30

    This looks like a classic case of groupthink. You guys even got kidcole to flip saying he's Berto ITD when in the other thread he said he was going Berto by Dec. as did Fullbrights.
     
    Best of luck but I think you're all talking each other into a losing play because I've got this fight going over 10.5 rounds. Berto doesn't have a ton of power and he's lazy. Collazo is a tough defensive southpaw without much power. I'd be shocked if this one ended early.
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    This looks like a classic case of groupthink. You guys even got kidcole to flip saying he's Berto ITD when in the other thread he said he was going Berto by Dec. as did Fullbrights.
     
    Best of luck but I think you're all talking each other into a losing play because I've got this fight going over 10.5 rounds. Berto doesn't have a ton of power and he's lazy. Collazo is a tough defensive southpaw without much power. I'd be shocked if this one ended early.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 9:45 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by Covers_Speds:

    This looks like a classic case of groupthink. You guys even got kidcole to flip saying he's Berto ITD when in the other thread he said he was going Berto by Dec. as did Fullbrights.
     
    Best of luck but I think you're all talking each other into a losing play because I've got this fight going over 10.5 rounds. Berto doesn't have a ton of power and he's lazy. Collazo is a tough defensive southpaw without much power. I'd be shocked if this one ended early.


    Yeah, I had a change of heart the last week especially after reading about Collazo's last fight on a couple of sites.

    Group think worked pretty well last night, we shall see if tonight brings the same results.  Nothing wrong with some disagreement; there is usually a lot of it here, you will be one of the lone winners here tonight if you are right.  Wouldn't mind a bit you winning your over and most of us cashing on a late KO also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Covers_Speds:

    This looks like a classic case of groupthink. You guys even got kidcole to flip saying he's Berto ITD when in the other thread he said he was going Berto by Dec. as did Fullbrights.
     
    Best of luck but I think you're all talking each other into a losing play because I've got this fight going over 10.5 rounds. Berto doesn't have a ton of power and he's lazy. Collazo is a tough defensive southpaw without much power. I'd be shocked if this one ended early.


    Yeah, I had a change of heart the last week especially after reading about Collazo's last fight on a couple of sites.

    Group think worked pretty well last night, we shall see if tonight brings the same results.  Nothing wrong with some disagreement; there is usually a lot of it here, you will be one of the lone winners here tonight if you are right.  Wouldn't mind a bit you winning your over and most of us cashing on a late KO also.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 9:55 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by Covers_Speds:

    This looks like a classic case of groupthink. You guys even got kidcole to flip saying he's Berto ITD when in the other thread he said he was going Berto by Dec. as did Fullbrights.
     
    Best of luck but I think you're all talking each other into a losing play because I've got this fight going over 10.5 rounds. Berto doesn't have a ton of power and he's lazy. Collazo is a tough defensive southpaw without much power. I'd be shocked if this one ended early.

    not really man....I have read all over the internet after I placed my bets and everyone thinks Berto wins a close descion 116-112 or just by decsion. Nobody thinks Berto can knockout Collazo. If this was the public perspective would'nt you think Berto itd should be in the 200's at least. I would not be surprised if Collazo makes it to the final bell, i am just not willing to bet my money on it. Collazo is not slick like you think. Berto is very active and will pounce on him. Good luck either way. Also long as Berto win, i can live with my losses.

    We are here to help each other. Honestly berto wins by decsion  +105 looks like a robbery if all these writers and people on boxing sites are right. Collazo is not that defensive as you give him credit for and Berto has po

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    Quote Originally Posted by Covers_Speds:

    This looks like a classic case of groupthink. You guys even got kidcole to flip saying he's Berto ITD when in the other thread he said he was going Berto by Dec. as did Fullbrights.
     
    Best of luck but I think you're all talking each other into a losing play because I've got this fight going over 10.5 rounds. Berto doesn't have a ton of power and he's lazy. Collazo is a tough defensive southpaw without much power. I'd be shocked if this one ended early.

    not really man....I have read all over the internet after I placed my bets and everyone thinks Berto wins a close descion 116-112 or just by decsion. Nobody thinks Berto can knockout Collazo. If this was the public perspective would'nt you think Berto itd should be in the 200's at least. I would not be surprised if Collazo makes it to the final bell, i am just not willing to bet my money on it. Collazo is not slick like you think. Berto is very active and will pounce on him. Good luck either way. Also long as Berto win, i can live with my losses.

    We are here to help each other. Honestly berto wins by decsion  +105 looks like a robbery if all these writers and people on boxing sites are right. Collazo is not that defensive as you give him credit for and Berto has po

     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 10:09 PM ET #33

    Big left hand by Collazo.  I couldn't tell how buzzed Berto was, he did the right thing to hang on though.
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    Big left hand by Collazo.  I couldn't tell how buzzed Berto was, he did the right thing to hang on though.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 17, 2009 - 11:28 PM ET #34

    Quote Originally Posted by Covers_Speds:

    This looks like a classic case of groupthink. You guys even got kidcole to flip saying he's Berto ITD when in the other thread he said he was going Berto by Dec. as did Fullbrights.
     
    Best of luck but I think you're all talking each other into a losing play because I've got this fight going over 10.5 rounds. Berto doesn't have a ton of power and he's lazy. Collazo is a tough defensive southpaw without much power. I'd be shocked if this one ended early.


    Fall off a cliff asshole.  We're all here trying to help each other out and you come in here like a tool every now and then to voice dissent.  Post your plays and we'll see how you do over the long haul. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Covers_Speds:

    This looks like a classic case of groupthink. You guys even got kidcole to flip saying he's Berto ITD when in the other thread he said he was going Berto by Dec. as did Fullbrights.
     
    Best of luck but I think you're all talking each other into a losing play because I've got this fight going over 10.5 rounds. Berto doesn't have a ton of power and he's lazy. Collazo is a tough defensive southpaw without much power. I'd be shocked if this one ended early.


    Fall off a cliff asshole.  We're all here trying to help each other out and you come in here like a tool every now and then to voice dissent.  Post your plays and we'll see how you do over the long haul. 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 18, 2009 - 12:02 AM ET #35

    I agree with A2C
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    Quote Originally Posted by A2C:



    Fall off a cliff asshole.  We're all here trying to help each other out and you come in here like a tool every now and then to voice dissent.  Post your plays and we'll see how you do over the long haul. 

    I did post a play OVER 10.5 rounds=Winner. Sorry for trying to help everyone out but I was trying to point out that Berto didn't have the power you guys thought he did and Collazo was a good fighter. Betting Berto to KO him wasn't a value bet it was a bad bet, but I apologize for trying to help this board out

    This happens all the time with hype job fighters. They build up high KO ratios fighting cans and then people think they have power. Once they step up in comp. like Berto did with Forbes and Collazo they don't score KO's like people who buy into the hype think they should.

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    Quote Originally Posted by A2C:



    Fall off a cliff asshole.  We're all here trying to help each other out and you come in here like a tool every now and then to voice dissent.  Post your plays and we'll see how you do over the long haul. 

    I did post a play OVER 10.5 rounds=Winner. Sorry for trying to help everyone out but I was trying to point out that Berto didn't have the power you guys thought he did and Collazo was a good fighter. Betting Berto to KO him wasn't a value bet it was a bad bet, but I apologize for trying to help this board out

    This happens all the time with hype job fighters. They build up high KO ratios fighting cans and then people think they have power. Once they step up in comp. like Berto did with Forbes and Collazo they don't score KO's like people who buy into the hype think they should.

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