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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2008 - 5:38 PM ET #76

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    I think you're looking at the odds shift in absolute value terms, when you should be looking at it in terms of percentages.  The shift from +250 to even is qualitatively different than the shift from +750 to +500 because you can make big profits on a very low stake bet with either of those dog odds.  But when something goes from +250 to even, you have to move up to your unit bet in order to make a normal profit, and the loss actually stings...I think that when a fight goes from +750 to +500,  it's lost 33% of its line value (250/750).  And when a fight goes from +250 to even, it's lost 60% of its line value (150/250). 


    No, I get what you are saying and I am with you.  I shouldn't have said technically, instead I should have said "it feels like."  I just feel sometimes like it is giving in to the book when odds change that much and I am just settling.
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    I think you're looking at the odds shift in absolute value terms, when you should be looking at it in terms of percentages.  The shift from +250 to even is qualitatively different than the shift from +750 to +500 because you can make big profits on a very low stake bet with either of those dog odds.  But when something goes from +250 to even, you have to move up to your unit bet in order to make a normal profit, and the loss actually stings...I think that when a fight goes from +750 to +500,  it's lost 33% of its line value (250/750).  And when a fight goes from +250 to even, it's lost 60% of its line value (150/250). 


    No, I get what you are saying and I am with you.  I shouldn't have said technically, instead I should have said "it feels like."  I just feel sometimes like it is giving in to the book when odds change that much and I am just settling.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2008 - 5:49 PM ET #77

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    Wladmir Klitschko vs. Sultan Ibragimov
    Ibragimov By Decision (+1400)
    -0.2 unit 

    Over 9.5 (+180)
    +1.8 units

    Barker (-600), Varela (+450), Barashian (+550), Ibragimov (+300)
    4-leg Parlay (+16600)
    - .05 unit 

    Yuriorkis Gamboa vs. Johnnie Edwards
    Under 7.5 (-120)
    +1 unit

    Richard Gutierrez vs. Jose Varela
    Varela (+450)
    - 0.4 unit 

    Thomas Ulrich vs. Yuri Barashian
    Barashian (+550)
    +2.2 units


    +4.35 units this weekend
    -7.43 units in 2008


      Nice week man.  Solid.

    I was right on a few of my takes, but it didn't show in the form of profits.

    A nice boxing weekend on Showtime next week, other than that most others on the slate look like mismatches.  I can't believe Echols is still fighting, I think he is still suspended in Nevada.  I wonder if we will get an O/U line for the Mundine fight on Wednesday.
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    Wladmir Klitschko vs. Sultan Ibragimov
    Ibragimov By Decision (+1400)
    -0.2 unit 

    Over 9.5 (+180)
    +1.8 units

    Barker (-600), Varela (+450), Barashian (+550), Ibragimov (+300)
    4-leg Parlay (+16600)
    - .05 unit 

    Yuriorkis Gamboa vs. Johnnie Edwards
    Under 7.5 (-120)
    +1 unit

    Richard Gutierrez vs. Jose Varela
    Varela (+450)
    - 0.4 unit 

    Thomas Ulrich vs. Yuri Barashian
    Barashian (+550)
    +2.2 units


    +4.35 units this weekend
    -7.43 units in 2008


      Nice week man.  Solid.

    I was right on a few of my takes, but it didn't show in the form of profits.

    A nice boxing weekend on Showtime next week, other than that most others on the slate look like mismatches.  I can't believe Echols is still fighting, I think he is still suspended in Nevada.  I wonder if we will get an O/U line for the Mundine fight on Wednesday.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2008 - 7:09 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:



    No, I get what you are saying and I am with you.  I shouldn't have said technically, instead I should have said "it feels like."  I just feel sometimes like it is giving in to the book when odds change that much and I am just settling.


    I definitely wish you got to profit from the Barashian play, as I remember you sniffing it out like a drug dog in the fall.  That was one of the contributing factors in me giving it a hard look this time around. 

    Guerrero-Litzau could be a quick one next weekend. I can't see Jason getting past the 5th...It would be nice to get some dog odds on an under 10.5 in that Mundine fight.  Hamdan's near the end of his rope, and I doubt he'll last the distance if he's getting outclassed.
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    No, I get what you are saying and I am with you.  I shouldn't have said technically, instead I should have said "it feels like."  I just feel sometimes like it is giving in to the book when odds change that much and I am just settling.


    I definitely wish you got to profit from the Barashian play, as I remember you sniffing it out like a drug dog in the fall.  That was one of the contributing factors in me giving it a hard look this time around. 

    Guerrero-Litzau could be a quick one next weekend. I can't see Jason getting past the 5th...It would be nice to get some dog odds on an under 10.5 in that Mundine fight.  Hamdan's near the end of his rope, and I doubt he'll last the distance if he's getting outclassed.
     
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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2008 - 9:58 PM ET #79

    Anyone got an answer to my question of who(m) can or will eventually beat this Manny Stew'ed version of the Jab-a-licious Wlad???

    Or should we all just bet Wald blind???

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    Anyone got an answer to my question of who(m) can or will eventually beat this Manny Stew'ed version of the Jab-a-licious Wlad???

    Or should we all just bet Wald blind???

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    Posted: Feb. 24, 2008 - 11:03 PM ET #80

    I think Peter or Maskaev would have a chance of reaching his chin a few times. I can't wait to see him murder Povetkin though.
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    I think Peter or Maskaev would have a chance of reaching his chin a few times. I can't wait to see him murder Povetkin though.
     
     
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    Posted: Feb. 25, 2008 - 10:18 AM ET #81

    Agreed - Povetkin gets KTFO'd.

    What about Chagaev?  He's tough, and he's shown enough intelligence to beat a bigger man.

    Also, let's not forget about Tony Thompson.  He destroyed Krasniqi in a fight that was supposed to be even.  Also, he's 6' 5", 250 lbs, so Wlad won't tower over him.  Thompson's problem might be a lack of speed, but I think he has a chance to clock Wlad a few times, which is really all you need to do in order to beat him.

    Let's face it -- it's pathetic that Wlad is considered the best HW in the world when everyone knows that he just has to get hit hard once by a guy his size, and he'll go down. 
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    Agreed - Povetkin gets KTFO'd.

    What about Chagaev?  He's tough, and he's shown enough intelligence to beat a bigger man.

    Also, let's not forget about Tony Thompson.  He destroyed Krasniqi in a fight that was supposed to be even.  Also, he's 6' 5", 250 lbs, so Wlad won't tower over him.  Thompson's problem might be a lack of speed, but I think he has a chance to clock Wlad a few times, which is really all you need to do in order to beat him.

    Let's face it -- it's pathetic that Wlad is considered the best HW in the world when everyone knows that he just has to get hit hard once by a guy his size, and he'll go down. 
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