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    WNF's, Showbox, other fights, FMayJr. vs. ODLH PPV: (o5/o5)

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    Posted: May. 3, 2007 - 12:16 PM ET #26

    My only other plays for the week will probably be Chambers by Dec. and Cazares Inside the distance, but I will just have to wait on the odds on those to see for sure.

    All of the other fights on the board for the rest of the week carry too much chalk or too many question marks surrounding them for me.
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    My only other plays for the week will probably be Chambers by Dec. and Cazares Inside the distance, but I will just have to wait on the odds on those to see for sure.

    All of the other fights on the board for the rest of the week carry too much chalk or too many question marks surrounding them for me.
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2007 - 12:34 PM ET #27

    I've added FMayJr. by a-n-y Decision, might try the SD for PBF, as well. I agry on Cazares Fbs, he ices people. I took Bojardo, even off the long lay-off, as the guy he's fighting kan't fall asleep fast enough. Added Rocky Jaurez as well. Tried Guinn, though I'm always leary of him, even though I've hit him correctly for and against of late. Could not find anything I liked on Bautista vs. SMM.


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    I've added FMayJr. by a-n-y Decision, might try the SD for PBF, as well. I agry on Cazares Fbs, he ices people. I took Bojardo, even off the long lay-off, as the guy he's fighting kan't fall asleep fast enough. Added Rocky Jaurez as well. Tried Guinn, though I'm always leary of him, even though I've hit him correctly for and against of late. Could not find anything I liked on Bautista vs. SMM.


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    Posted: May. 3, 2007 - 1:29 PM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:

    Stark torpedo'ed 1 200%+ ROI Parlay.
    But Ed Valero closed one at 250%, then closed the other at nearly 3:1. I like that. "Yes" I did have the WNF's main-event UP, as I had a lot of parlayed egges in that Distance basket. Reads like Ed.Valero really opened his guy up. & that's what I needed.

    Now on to ShoBox & the scales I need to see to make sure who is or is not in-shape.
    Interesting ODLH leaving tix for FMaySr. news. Mind games 101 is now in session.

    GLA!
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    I just thought it was strange that you would play the over giving up the chalk when you already had both guys decisioned up at + money.  I think it is safe to say I will never fully understand how you bet and your betting philosophy as I have tried for the past year and just can't get a grasp for it.  I never know how you weigh a play because you don't really talk about units, who you are actually on as sometimes you have both guys propped up, and in that case what fighter you are banking on winning as you seem to have it always parlayed with other sports.

    I think it is safe to say our betting strategies are very different, but we both share the ultimate goal and that is keeping the bankroll growing.

    I have just always been a fan of full disclosure, because a documented winning record is what differentiates a player as a proven winner and also helps others increase their bankrolls as you increase yours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:

    Stark torpedo'ed 1 200%+ ROI Parlay.
    But Ed Valero closed one at 250%, then closed the other at nearly 3:1. I like that. "Yes" I did have the WNF's main-event UP, as I had a lot of parlayed egges in that Distance basket. Reads like Ed.Valero really opened his guy up. & that's what I needed.

    Now on to ShoBox & the scales I need to see to make sure who is or is not in-shape.
    Interesting ODLH leaving tix for FMaySr. news. Mind games 101 is now in session.

    GLA!
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    I just thought it was strange that you would play the over giving up the chalk when you already had both guys decisioned up at + money.  I think it is safe to say I will never fully understand how you bet and your betting philosophy as I have tried for the past year and just can't get a grasp for it.  I never know how you weigh a play because you don't really talk about units, who you are actually on as sometimes you have both guys propped up, and in that case what fighter you are banking on winning as you seem to have it always parlayed with other sports.

    I think it is safe to say our betting strategies are very different, but we both share the ultimate goal and that is keeping the bankroll growing.

    I have just always been a fan of full disclosure, because a documented winning record is what differentiates a player as a proven winner and also helps others increase their bankrolls as you increase yours.
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2007 - 3:18 PM ET #29

    In very broad-brush generalized terms.........I look to Parlay chalk over about -250. So if multi chalks get upset, I've only dropped 1 bet, not multi individual bets. An old guy up in B'more taught me that years back. Then I try to find a -200 or +money bet to anchor each parlay, so that each parlay, (even w/ lottsa chalk), should deliver a better than 1:1 parlay payday when it does eventually close. One of my books on professional handicapping listed Boxing fav's as having won nearly 90% of the time historically. I'd call it mid to high-80's as a %, but way more often than not. Then I try to find some other sports to further raise the ROI (womens tennis is nails for this). I don't play a lotta true +money dogs. But when I have, I've easily hit 6 outta 10, maybe a bit more. Hit 13 outta 16 or thereabouts to close 2006. The other thing I try to do is not worry about when a bet wins. To me it's only a matter of if it hits. As my bankroll will sometimes actually drop in principal for a given week, as I typically have multi Parlays that span beyond a given week (like my FMayJr. parlay, 3+ months old, stil have not made a cent on it, but that will settle up this Saturday nite)

    College fb is a diff' story, but I'll save that for another thread.

    GLA!
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    In very broad-brush generalized terms.........I look to Parlay chalk over about -250. So if multi chalks get upset, I've only dropped 1 bet, not multi individual bets. An old guy up in B'more taught me that years back. Then I try to find a -200 or +money bet to anchor each parlay, so that each parlay, (even w/ lottsa chalk), should deliver a better than 1:1 parlay payday when it does eventually close. One of my books on professional handicapping listed Boxing fav's as having won nearly 90% of the time historically. I'd call it mid to high-80's as a %, but way more often than not. Then I try to find some other sports to further raise the ROI (womens tennis is nails for this). I don't play a lotta true +money dogs. But when I have, I've easily hit 6 outta 10, maybe a bit more. Hit 13 outta 16 or thereabouts to close 2006. The other thing I try to do is not worry about when a bet wins. To me it's only a matter of if it hits. As my bankroll will sometimes actually drop in principal for a given week, as I typically have multi Parlays that span beyond a given week (like my FMayJr. parlay, 3+ months old, stil have not made a cent on it, but that will settle up this Saturday nite)

    College fb is a diff' story, but I'll save that for another thread.

    GLA!
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    Posted: May. 3, 2007 - 3:22 PM ET #30

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    You are, without a doubt, the best capper on COVERS not only for winning, but for providing documentation as well.  It's tough to tell how other cappers do when they have 14 different parlays going with different outcomes, all of which is undocumented or is nearly impossible to comprehend. 
     
    Keep up the good work
     
    GL on the plays gentelmen  
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    You are, without a doubt, the best capper on COVERS not only for winning, but for providing documentation as well.  It's tough to tell how other cappers do when they have 14 different parlays going with different outcomes, all of which is undocumented or is nearly impossible to comprehend. 
     
    Keep up the good work
     
    GL on the plays gentelmen  
     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2007 - 3:30 PM ET #31

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    Posted: May. 3, 2007 - 5:49 PM ET #32

    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:

    In very broad-brush generalized terms.........I look to Parlay chalk over about -250. So if multi chalks get upset, I've only dropped 1 bet, not multi individual bets. An old guy up in B'more taught me that years back. Then I try to find a -200 or +money bet to anchor each parlay, so that each parlay, (even w/ lottsa chalk), should deliver a better than 1:1 parlay payday when it does eventually close. One of my books on professional handicapping listed Boxing fav's as having won nearly 90% of the time historically. I'd call it mid to high-80's as a %, but way more often than not. Then I try to find some other sports to further raise the ROI (womens tennis is nails for this). I don't play a lotta true +money dogs. But when I have, I've easily hit 6 outta 10, maybe a bit more. Hit 13 outta 16 or thereabouts to close 2006. The other thing I try to do is not worry about when a bet wins. To me it's only a matter of if it hits. As my bankroll will sometimes actually drop in principal for a given week, as I typically have multi Parlays that span beyond a given week (like my FMayJr. parlay, 3+ months old, stil have not made a cent on it, but that will settle up this Saturday nite)

    College fb is a diff' story, but I'll save that for another thread.

    GLA!
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    I don't bet on College Football, just a fan there.  Boxing is all I bet except for an occasional CBB game or a future in another sport, I just find spread have become so tight.

    I don't think I will ever get your betting style or philosophy, especially throwing in other sports such as Women Tennis in with boxing.  So what happens when an early chalk in a parlay gets upset, do you chalk up the rest again, then what happens if one of the other heavy chalks loses, do you chalk up the rest again once more?  It just seems like you have an outcome for each side on the fight and it's like you never lose because somehow you had the winning side involved in something even if 1-2 of your other plays on the same fight were losers; a perfect example was last week you applauded a Diaz straight up winner as rounding out a nice week for you, but at the same time your 2 posted plays on the fight were Diaz by decision and Freitas by decision.

    I have never doubted your knowledge on the sport and like going back and forth with you about a fight, but I find your handicapping style leaves me wondering what the heck is going on?


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    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:

    In very broad-brush generalized terms.........I look to Parlay chalk over about -250. So if multi chalks get upset, I've only dropped 1 bet, not multi individual bets. An old guy up in B'more taught me that years back. Then I try to find a -200 or +money bet to anchor each parlay, so that each parlay, (even w/ lottsa chalk), should deliver a better than 1:1 parlay payday when it does eventually close. One of my books on professional handicapping listed Boxing fav's as having won nearly 90% of the time historically. I'd call it mid to high-80's as a %, but way more often than not. Then I try to find some other sports to further raise the ROI (womens tennis is nails for this). I don't play a lotta true +money dogs. But when I have, I've easily hit 6 outta 10, maybe a bit more. Hit 13 outta 16 or thereabouts to close 2006. The other thing I try to do is not worry about when a bet wins. To me it's only a matter of if it hits. As my bankroll will sometimes actually drop in principal for a given week, as I typically have multi Parlays that span beyond a given week (like my FMayJr. parlay, 3+ months old, stil have not made a cent on it, but that will settle up this Saturday nite)

    College fb is a diff' story, but I'll save that for another thread.

    GLA!
    bigeiii 


    I don't bet on College Football, just a fan there.  Boxing is all I bet except for an occasional CBB game or a future in another sport, I just find spread have become so tight.

    I don't think I will ever get your betting style or philosophy, especially throwing in other sports such as Women Tennis in with boxing.  So what happens when an early chalk in a parlay gets upset, do you chalk up the rest again, then what happens if one of the other heavy chalks loses, do you chalk up the rest again once more?  It just seems like you have an outcome for each side on the fight and it's like you never lose because somehow you had the winning side involved in something even if 1-2 of your other plays on the same fight were losers; a perfect example was last week you applauded a Diaz straight up winner as rounding out a nice week for you, but at the same time your 2 posted plays on the fight were Diaz by decision and Freitas by decision.

    I have never doubted your knowledge on the sport and like going back and forth with you about a fight, but I find your handicapping style leaves me wondering what the heck is going on?


     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2007 - 6:15 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by OkSoIBlaze24_7:

    Fullbrights-
     
    You are, without a doubt, the best capper on COVERS not only for winning, but for providing documentation as well.  It's tough to tell how other cappers do when they have 14 different parlays going with different outcomes, all of which is undocumented or is nearly impossible to comprehend. 
     
    Keep up the good work
     
    GL on the plays gentelmen  


      Thanks for the compliment.  Since I started posting at Covers I have always posted every play with the amount of units wagered on it and then posted how everything shook out win or lose in my recap threads; I feel that it is the only way to help others win.  I don't claim to be a big bettor; my units are $100, but if I can clear 30-60 units a year then I have picked up a nice chunk of change on the side watching and betting on my favorite sport.  To be honest with you with stupid house limits it is tough to get down a huge chunk of change with out having a couple of alias betting accounts through friends or several books at your disposal.

    My largest play for the year has been 4.35 units, so even if you were a larger bettor than I, you could still probably find a way to get your action down.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OkSoIBlaze24_7:

    Fullbrights-
     
    You are, without a doubt, the best capper on COVERS not only for winning, but for providing documentation as well.  It's tough to tell how other cappers do when they have 14 different parlays going with different outcomes, all of which is undocumented or is nearly impossible to comprehend. 
     
    Keep up the good work
     
    GL on the plays gentelmen  


      Thanks for the compliment.  Since I started posting at Covers I have always posted every play with the amount of units wagered on it and then posted how everything shook out win or lose in my recap threads; I feel that it is the only way to help others win.  I don't claim to be a big bettor; my units are $100, but if I can clear 30-60 units a year then I have picked up a nice chunk of change on the side watching and betting on my favorite sport.  To be honest with you with stupid house limits it is tough to get down a huge chunk of change with out having a couple of alias betting accounts through friends or several books at your disposal.

    My largest play for the year has been 4.35 units, so even if you were a larger bettor than I, you could still probably find a way to get your action down.


     
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    Posted: May. 3, 2007 - 6:18 PM ET #34

    36 hrs. of calc' & stats, is what it's really all about Fbs. As my 1st u.grad was in engineering. So it would take an Excel spreadsheet & the traditional (normal) Z-curve, chi^2, and the F-distribution to realllllllly break it down for every1 to follow, & that's n0t me being TIC. & it would require a lotta calc & stats on the part of whomever I'm teaching it to, for them to fully understand it as well. Plus dead-solid knowledge of the sport, plus handicapping experience (5-10 years to fully sharpen up in my book). I S you not, I had my fav' stats prof look all of this over years ago, so it's pretty solid. I do plan to eventually publish it, or seminar tape it, or something like that.

    M-o-s-t-l-y......."no" is the correct answer to your question. But I do go back in if I'm really strong on 2 or more chalks that have not yet started. But the very main point this.......try to get the Parlay ROI above 1:1 (or really close). That's when the fav's in Boxing really add up for a player. Shop for value, shop for any kicker bonus. For the last 12 months or so, I've tried to throw your +money fights in w/ my chalk, prolly added about .6 to .7 units to my profit each week for it.

    & oh BTW, the guy I've mentioned in this fourm that I consult w/ off of Covers.com, when I need a little extra extremely sound Boxing advice, is picking ODLH. 1st time this person & I have really been opposed on a major fight. Which has me interested.

    Thank you jmw59; & same to you!

    GLA!
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    36 hrs. of calc' & stats, is what it's really all about Fbs. As my 1st u.grad was in engineering. So it would take an Excel spreadsheet & the traditional (normal) Z-curve, chi^2, and the F-distribution to realllllllly break it down for every1 to follow, & that's n0t me being TIC. & it would require a lotta calc & stats on the part of whomever I'm teaching it to, for them to fully understand it as well. Plus dead-solid knowledge of the sport, plus handicapping experience (5-10 years to fully sharpen up in my book). I S you not, I had my fav' stats prof look all of this over years ago, so it's pretty solid. I do plan to eventually publish it, or seminar tape it, or something like that.

    M-o-s-t-l-y......."no" is the correct answer to your question. But I do go back in if I'm really strong on 2 or more chalks that have not yet started. But the very main point this.......try to get the Parlay ROI above 1:1 (or really close). That's when the fav's in Boxing really add up for a player. Shop for value, shop for any kicker bonus. For the last 12 months or so, I've tried to throw your +money fights in w/ my chalk, prolly added about .6 to .7 units to my profit each week for it.

    & oh BTW, the guy I've mentioned in this fourm that I consult w/ off of Covers.com, when I need a little extra extremely sound Boxing advice, is picking ODLH. 1st time this person & I have really been opposed on a major fight. Which has me interested.

    Thank you jmw59; & same to you!

    GLA!
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    Posted: May. 3, 2007 - 6:23 PM ET #35

    One last play for the week and a small hedge to go along with it, unless I decide to hedge a little on my two Mayweather parlays (I really would hate to lose that one to win 5.57 units) by taking Oscar by decision.....


    1 unit parlay on Chambers by 10rd Decision (-123) and Cazares Inside the Distance (-245) to win 1.55 units
    Hedging with...
    .15 of a unit on Guinn Inside the Distance (+692)
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    One last play for the week and a small hedge to go along with it, unless I decide to hedge a little on my two Mayweather parlays (I really would hate to lose that one to win 5.57 units) by taking Oscar by decision.....


    1 unit parlay on Chambers by 10rd Decision (-123) and Cazares Inside the Distance (-245) to win 1.55 units
    Hedging with...
    .15 of a unit on Guinn Inside the Distance (+692)
     
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    I like that DG INTD #. I might go back & give that look-see Fbs. As I doubt DG wins a Decision, though Chambers via Decision is no bad play either.

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    I like that DG INTD #. I might go back & give that look-see Fbs. As I doubt DG wins a Decision, though Chambers via Decision is no bad play either.

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    DG in pretty nice shape. EC 'bout where EC always is.
    Tann in pretty decent shape as well, CA up just a tad.
    HTH's.

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    DG in pretty nice shape. EC 'bout where EC always is.
    Tann in pretty decent shape as well, CA up just a tad.
    HTH's.

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    Hey bigeii,
     
     
                 Be Careful with Pretty Boy. DeLaHoya is going to go through him like Grant took Richmond. Floyd will have to run around the ring to win and if he does he'll still Lose a decision in Vegas  This is a Man fighting a boy. And the Man is Oscar DeLaHoya!!
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                 Be Careful with Pretty Boy. DeLaHoya is going to go through him like Grant took Richmond. Floyd will have to run around the ring to win and if he does he'll still Lose a decision in Vegas  This is a Man fighting a boy. And the Man is Oscar DeLaHoya!!
     
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    I am now on a couple of small Oscar plays as hedges for my Mayweather closing parlay and my Mayweather advancing parlay.....

    .20 of a unit on Oscar by Split Decision (+1400)
    .20 of a unit on Oscar by Majority Decision (+1800)
    .10 of a unit on a Draw (+1600)


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    I am now on a couple of small Oscar plays as hedges for my Mayweather closing parlay and my Mayweather advancing parlay.....

    .20 of a unit on Oscar by Split Decision (+1400)
    .20 of a unit on Oscar by Majority Decision (+1800)
    .10 of a unit on a Draw (+1600)


     
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:

    36 hrs. of calc' & stats, is what it's really all about Fbs. As my 1st u.grad was in engineering. So it would take an Excel spreadsheet & the traditional (normal) Z-curve, chi^2, and the F-distribution to realllllllly break it down for every1 to follow, & that's n0t me being TIC. & it would require a lotta calc & stats on the part of whomever I'm teaching it to, for them to fully understand it as well. Plus dead-solid knowledge of the sport, plus handicapping experience (5-10 years to fully sharpen up in my book). I S you not, I had my fav' stats prof look all of this over years ago, so it's pretty solid. I do plan to eventually publish it, or seminar tape it, or something like that.

    M-o-s-t-l-y......."no" is the correct answer to your question. But I do go back in if I'm really strong on 2 or more chalks that have not yet started. But the very main point this.......try to get the Parlay ROI above 1:1 (or really close). That's when the fav's in Boxing really add up for a player. Shop for value, shop for any kicker bonus. For the last 12 months or so, I've tried to throw your +money fights in w/ my chalk, prolly added about .6 to .7 units to my profit each week for it.

    & oh BTW, the guy I've mentioned in this fourm that I consult w/ off of Covers.com, when I need a little extra extremely sound Boxing advice, is picking ODLH. 1st time this person & I have really been opposed on a major fight. Which has me interested.

    Thank you jmw59; & same to you!

    GLA!
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    Very interesting to say the least, sounds like there is much more involved than parlaying heavy chalk.  It may be easy to get a feel for if you posted your plays and units wagered on them.

    You didn't respond to this question I posed though; It seems like you have an outcome for each side on the fight and it's like you never lose because somehow you had the winning side involved in something even if 1-2 of your other plays on the same fight were losers; a perfect example was last week you applauded a Diaz straight up winner as rounding out a nice week for you, but at the same time you talked about your two plays on the fight being Diaz by decision/parlayed with others and Freitas SU/parlayed with others, which both lost.  So how did you win? It's almost like you never want to admit a loss sometimes.


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    36 hrs. of calc' & stats, is what it's really all about Fbs. As my 1st u.grad was in engineering. So it would take an Excel spreadsheet & the traditional (normal) Z-curve, chi^2, and the F-distribution to realllllllly break it down for every1 to follow, & that's n0t me being TIC. & it would require a lotta calc & stats on the part of whomever I'm teaching it to, for them to fully understand it as well. Plus dead-solid knowledge of the sport, plus handicapping experience (5-10 years to fully sharpen up in my book). I S you not, I had my fav' stats prof look all of this over years ago, so it's pretty solid. I do plan to eventually publish it, or seminar tape it, or something like that.

    M-o-s-t-l-y......."no" is the correct answer to your question. But I do go back in if I'm really strong on 2 or more chalks that have not yet started. But the very main point this.......try to get the Parlay ROI above 1:1 (or really close). That's when the fav's in Boxing really add up for a player. Shop for value, shop for any kicker bonus. For the last 12 months or so, I've tried to throw your +money fights in w/ my chalk, prolly added about .6 to .7 units to my profit each week for it.

    & oh BTW, the guy I've mentioned in this fourm that I consult w/ off of Covers.com, when I need a little extra extremely sound Boxing advice, is picking ODLH. 1st time this person & I have really been opposed on a major fight. Which has me interested.

    Thank you jmw59; & same to you!

    GLA!
    bigeiii



    Very interesting to say the least, sounds like there is much more involved than parlaying heavy chalk.  It may be easy to get a feel for if you posted your plays and units wagered on them.

    You didn't respond to this question I posed though; It seems like you have an outcome for each side on the fight and it's like you never lose because somehow you had the winning side involved in something even if 1-2 of your other plays on the same fight were losers; a perfect example was last week you applauded a Diaz straight up winner as rounding out a nice week for you, but at the same time you talked about your two plays on the fight being Diaz by decision/parlayed with others and Freitas SU/parlayed with others, which both lost.  So how did you win? It's almost like you never want to admit a loss sometimes.


     
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    I did not type that out correctly. I meant to type FS via Decision. That was the kicker. Yes the JD decisions got beat. Yes they did beat me. But JD SU did not. Here is an example:

    Au.State-115 1st to 10 pts. (YES)
    Ana.Ducks-2300 Series (YES)
    Hennin (tennis chick)-1500 (YES)
    Cazares-700 (pending)
    Rocky-925 (pending)
    Bautisua-4oo (pending)
    Each of my Top-5 KD horses (in seperate parlays) (pending)
    Take Any Given Sunday+1600 for example..........that's 1 unit to win 47 units and change.

    Then I did the same w/ all of the above, & my Boxing futures.......Ed.Miranda-165, the Wald LB LOW-120.  Ulrich-115, VV-800, SF-3750 JB-1175. Those are 1 unit to win 140 units+. As you can see, I don't have to hit more than 1 in 3 to come out ahead, & on weeks where all chalks win, I'm really ahead. That's prolly 70% of the time. HTH's.

    Still waiting on the ShoBox u.card line? Maybe it is not forthcoming???


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    I did not type that out correctly. I meant to type FS via Decision. That was the kicker. Yes the JD decisions got beat. Yes they did beat me. But JD SU did not. Here is an example:

    Au.State-115 1st to 10 pts. (YES)
    Ana.Ducks-2300 Series (YES)
    Hennin (tennis chick)-1500 (YES)
    Cazares-700 (pending)
    Rocky-925 (pending)
    Bautisua-4oo (pending)
    Each of my Top-5 KD horses (in seperate parlays) (pending)
    Take Any Given Sunday+1600 for example..........that's 1 unit to win 47 units and change.

    Then I did the same w/ all of the above, & my Boxing futures.......Ed.Miranda-165, the Wald LB LOW-120.  Ulrich-115, VV-800, SF-3750 JB-1175. Those are 1 unit to win 140 units+. As you can see, I don't have to hit more than 1 in 3 to come out ahead, & on weeks where all chalks win, I'm really ahead. That's prolly 70% of the time. HTH's.

    Still waiting on the ShoBox u.card line? Maybe it is not forthcoming???


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    Here's the 1 unit Diaz one from last week:

    JD-270
    Nadal-7ooo
    DET series price-55oo
    C'town series price-5ooo
    Shaq misses 1st FTA+110
    PHO series price -23oo

    1 unit to win 3.18 units. YES.

    Same bet, but NOT Holt+212 via Decision. 1 unit to win 3.78 units. YES.

    Be fully aware that I post a lot of these other sports plays in other Covers.com fourm's: You will n0t see me cluttering the Boxing fourm w/ these other sports plays after this thread. I like to keep Boxing in Boxing, Hoops in Hoops, college fb in college fb, & so forth...
     such as this one....
    & this one......
    & this one.....

    Then.........for example I had EA+115, Fres-425, Ed.Valero-1250, Henin-1750, Jankovic-1800, PHO 1st to 10 points-175. 1 unit that hit 1.47 units. All that w/ the UP on EA vs. LYBC; which hit 1 unit for 1.26 units. Albert via Decision+189 w/ all of that, 1 unit hitting 3.3 units. "Yes" Stark torpedoed one Parlay, b/c I saw his line after I'd played the above Parlays.


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    Here's the 1 unit Diaz one from last week:

    JD-270
    Nadal-7ooo
    DET series price-55oo
    C'town series price-5ooo
    Shaq misses 1st FTA+110
    PHO series price -23oo

    1 unit to win 3.18 units. YES.

    Same bet, but NOT Holt+212 via Decision. 1 unit to win 3.78 units. YES.

    Be fully aware that I post a lot of these other sports plays in other Covers.com fourm's: You will n0t see me cluttering the Boxing fourm w/ these other sports plays after this thread. I like to keep Boxing in Boxing, Hoops in Hoops, college fb in college fb, & so forth...
     such as this one....
    & this one......
    & this one.....

    Then.........for example I had EA+115, Fres-425, Ed.Valero-1250, Henin-1750, Jankovic-1800, PHO 1st to 10 points-175. 1 unit that hit 1.47 units. All that w/ the UP on EA vs. LYBC; which hit 1 unit for 1.26 units. Albert via Decision+189 w/ all of that, 1 unit hitting 3.3 units. "Yes" Stark torpedoed one Parlay, b/c I saw his line after I'd played the above Parlays.


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    Interesting. I post what I did above, and 5 $0.10 takes down their KD & Oaks parlay w/ Boxing option. Go fig'.


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    Interesting. I post what I did above, and 5 $0.10 takes down their KD & Oaks parlay w/ Boxing option. Go fig'.


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    Posted: May. 4, 2007 - 3:37 PM ET #44

    Gotta side w/ CA, but I'd rather outcome Prop him up. & I'd like a total on the CS (every1's fav. Heavyweight doorstop) vs. MS fight, but will MS if I must.

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    Gotta side w/ CA, but I'd rather outcome Prop him up. & I'd like a total on the CS (every1's fav. Heavyweight doorstop) vs. MS fight, but will MS if I must.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:


    PHO 1st to 10 points-175
    Shaq misses 1st FTA+110


    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:



    Same bet, but NOT Holt+212 via Decision. 1 unit to win 3.78 units. YES.



    Holt won a decision, so how did a Not decision parlay win?

    I could never lump bets like those in with boxing, especially in a parlay, that 1st bet seems like such a sucker bet to me.  So do you place 1 unit on every parlay and only use non-astronomical chalk outcomes in one parlay a piece?

    Lets stay with the Diaz fight for example:  You stated that you played Diaz by Decision and Freitas SU last week.  You never said you played Diaz SU, but we will say that you did for example sake.  Would you put each one in a parlay with high chalk risking 1 unit.

    Your right, I will never fully understand how you bet.  I see you had some advanced NBA series prices in the parlays above and I know last week you said you took Dallas to win their series also.  What happens when a high chalk like that doesn't come through?  How many parlays does that kill?


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    PHO 1st to 10 points-175
    Shaq misses 1st FTA+110


    Quote Originally Posted by bigeiii:



    Same bet, but NOT Holt+212 via Decision. 1 unit to win 3.78 units. YES.



    Holt won a decision, so how did a Not decision parlay win?

    I could never lump bets like those in with boxing, especially in a parlay, that 1st bet seems like such a sucker bet to me.  So do you place 1 unit on every parlay and only use non-astronomical chalk outcomes in one parlay a piece?

    Lets stay with the Diaz fight for example:  You stated that you played Diaz by Decision and Freitas SU last week.  You never said you played Diaz SU, but we will say that you did for example sake.  Would you put each one in a parlay with high chalk risking 1 unit.

    Your right, I will never fully understand how you bet.  I see you had some advanced NBA series prices in the parlays above and I know last week you said you took Dallas to win their series also.  What happens when a high chalk like that doesn't come through?  How many parlays does that kill?


     
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    Typo on my part Fbs.
    I kan't keep up w/ trying to document all of this.
    I just don't have that much free-time.
    Nuff typed.

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    Typo on my part Fbs.
    I kan't keep up w/ trying to document all of this.
    I just don't have that much free-time.
    Nuff typed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fullbrights:



    I could never lump bets like those in with boxing, especially in a parlay, that 1st bet seems like such a sucker bet to me.  So do you place 1 unit on every parlay and only use non-astronomical chalk outcomes in one parlay a piece?

    Lets stay with the Diaz fight for example:  You stated that you played Diaz by Decision and Freitas SU last week.  You never said you played Diaz SU, but we will say that you did for example sake.  Would you put each one in a parlay with high chalk risking 1 unit.

    Your right, I will never fully understand how you bet.  I see you had some advanced NBA series prices in the parlays above and I know last week you said you took Dallas to win their series also.  What happens when a high chalk like that doesn't come through?  How many parlays does that kill?




    These questions were just meant to understand kind of how the system worked, because I was just trying to get a semi-grasp on it.
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    I could never lump bets like those in with boxing, especially in a parlay, that 1st bet seems like such a sucker bet to me.  So do you place 1 unit on every parlay and only use non-astronomical chalk outcomes in one parlay a piece?

    Lets stay with the Diaz fight for example:  You stated that you played Diaz by Decision and Freitas SU last week.  You never said you played Diaz SU, but we will say that you did for example sake.  Would you put each one in a parlay with high chalk risking 1 unit.

    Your right, I will never fully understand how you bet.  I see you had some advanced NBA series prices in the parlays above and I know last week you said you took Dallas to win their series also.  What happens when a high chalk like that doesn't come through?  How many parlays does that kill?




    These questions were just meant to understand kind of how the system worked, because I was just trying to get a semi-grasp on it.
     
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    No worries. Just been one of those temporal days, prolly nites as well, as I'm still a couple of hrs. behind.

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    No worries. Just been one of those temporal days, prolly nites as well, as I'm still a couple of hrs. behind.

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    Floyd=150lbs!ODLH=buck54.

    Tells me that a PBF stoppage is close to a big NC. (no chance) FMayJr. clearly looking to amp up whatever hand-speed edge, & far more importantly to me, any lateral quicks/athleticism edge that he can. I kinda like what the Toledo's are saying.

    HTH's
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    Floyd=150lbs!ODLH=buck54.

    Tells me that a PBF stoppage is close to a big NC. (no chance) FMayJr. clearly looking to amp up whatever hand-speed edge, & far more importantly to me, any lateral quicks/athleticism edge that he can. I kinda like what the Toledo's are saying.

    HTH's
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    FYI:
    HBO is reAiring the entire 24/7 ODLH vs. FMayJr. hype machine 2nite 8-10pm.


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