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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 1:21 AM ET #1

    Season to date 7-4 ATS

    Lions      -7   Elks          44

    Stamps  +3  Alouettes   46

    Argos    +5  Bombers    42

    Riders  -14   Redblacks  44

     

    Unders are 7-1 on the season.

    Home favorites went 0-3 week 1 and 2-2 week 2.

    In past history going back 13 years coming into this season, away dogs.....

    week 1 25-12 ATS

    week 2 22-14 ATS

    week 3 22-18 ATS

    week 4 21-12 ATS 

    Non-divisional away dogs have been 48-32 ATS, and divisional away dogs have been 42-24 ATS the first four weeks.

     

     

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    Season to date 7-4 ATS

    Lions      -7   Elks          44

    Stamps  +3  Alouettes   46

    Argos    +5  Bombers    42

    Riders  -14   Redblacks  44

     

    Unders are 7-1 on the season.

    Home favorites went 0-3 week 1 and 2-2 week 2.

    In past history going back 13 years coming into this season, away dogs.....

    week 1 25-12 ATS

    week 2 22-14 ATS

    week 3 22-18 ATS

    week 4 21-12 ATS 

    Non-divisional away dogs have been 48-32 ATS, and divisional away dogs have been 42-24 ATS the first four weeks.

     

     

     
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    Teams that have played in at least two playoff games their previous season, in weeks 1-4......Tiger Cats, Bombers, Elks

    As...

    Home favorites 24-38 ATS

    Away favorites 15-18 ATS

    Away dogs       30-13 ATS

    Home dogs.      8-3 ATS

     

    Teams winning their 5 or less games their previous season, in weeks 1-4.....Redblacks, Argonauts, Lions  

    As.......

    Away dogs      24-11 ATS

    Home dogs       11-5 ATS

    Home favorites 6-11 ATS

     

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    Teams that have played in at least two playoff games their previous season, in weeks 1-4......Tiger Cats, Bombers, Elks

    As...

    Home favorites 24-38 ATS

    Away favorites 15-18 ATS

    Away dogs       30-13 ATS

    Home dogs.      8-3 ATS

     

    Teams winning their 5 or less games their previous season, in weeks 1-4.....Redblacks, Argonauts, Lions  

    As.......

    Away dogs      24-11 ATS

    Home dogs       11-5 ATS

    Home favorites 6-11 ATS

     

     
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    1). Teams that won 5 or less games their prior season in week 3 that have won at least one game have been 6-1 ATS at home.....Argos, Lions

    2). Teams that have lost their their first two games and failed to cover each game have been 9-2-1 on the road in game three, 7-5 straight up.  This moves to 5-0-1 ATS if their away game is versus a divisional rival.....Elks

    3). Week 3 favorites with more wins than their opponent have been 6-10 ATS....Bombers, Sasquatches, Lions, Alouettes (if favored)

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    1). Teams that won 5 or less games their prior season in week 3 that have won at least one game have been 6-1 ATS at home.....Argos, Lions

    2). Teams that have lost their their first two games and failed to cover each game have been 9-2-1 on the road in game three, 7-5 straight up.  This moves to 5-0-1 ATS if their away game is versus a divisional rival.....Elks

    3). Week 3 favorites with more wins than their opponent have been 6-10 ATS....Bombers, Sasquatches, Lions, Alouettes (if favored)

     
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    week 3 home favorites off a home game and their present opponent is off a road game have only been 2-7 ATS, and 3-9 ATS the first four weeks, 6-6 straight up......Roughriders

    Teams with the better defensive points/game on the road before week five have been 16-10 ATS as away dogs..... Redblacks

    but only 6-9 ATS as away favorites....Alouettes, Bombers

     

    Before week five, teams that had the better regular season record last year as:

    home favorites....32-50 ATS.....Riders

    away dogs..........28-13 ATS.....Eskimos

    away favorites....20-25 ATS.....Bombers, Alouettes

     

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    week 3 home favorites off a home game and their present opponent is off a road game have only been 2-7 ATS, and 3-9 ATS the first four weeks, 6-6 straight up......Roughriders

    Teams with the better defensive points/game on the road before week five have been 16-10 ATS as away dogs..... Redblacks

    but only 6-9 ATS as away favorites....Alouettes, Bombers

     

    Before week five, teams that had the better regular season record last year as:

    home favorites....32-50 ATS.....Riders

    away dogs..........28-13 ATS.....Eskimos

    away favorites....20-25 ATS.....Bombers, Alouettes

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 8:14 AM ET #5

    Thank you for sharing the interesting statistics.  After year absence, good news is that CFL remains predictable for gamblers who favor underdogs and total unders.  Past trends still work somewhat.

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    Thank you for sharing the interesting statistics.  After year absence, good news is that CFL remains predictable for gamblers who favor underdogs and total unders.  Past trends still work somewhat.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 8:44 AM ET #6

    I hope your way off on the spreads, hoping to bet bc and sask got lucky and got 4 right this weekend

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    I hope your way off on the spreads, hoping to bet bc and sask got lucky and got 4 right this weekend

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 8:56 AM ET #7

    Thanks for the interesting feedback guys.

    Yes, I hope I am wrong too.  You can see from my picks that I like playing dogs, but unless I get more than 8 with Edmonton, more than 13 with Ottawa and at least 4 with Calgary I don't think I can take any of those.

    I have an initial lean with the Argos and that is about it this week.

    UNDERs went 1-9 o/u yesterday in the NFLX, so we are in an UNDER trend in all of football (and favorites are crushing it in  MLB), and in the stockmarket they say to not to want to catch a falling knife.  I won't be taking any OVERs until there is some semblance of a change in trend.

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    Thanks for the interesting feedback guys.

    Yes, I hope I am wrong too.  You can see from my picks that I like playing dogs, but unless I get more than 8 with Edmonton, more than 13 with Ottawa and at least 4 with Calgary I don't think I can take any of those.

    I have an initial lean with the Argos and that is about it this week.

    UNDERs went 1-9 o/u yesterday in the NFLX, so we are in an UNDER trend in all of football (and favorites are crushing it in  MLB), and in the stockmarket they say to not to want to catch a falling knife.  I won't be taking any OVERs until there is some semblance of a change in trend.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 9:00 AM ET #8

    4-0 Freak?....let me borrow your crystal ball this week, eh?

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    4-0 Freak?....let me borrow your crystal ball this week, eh?

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 9:23 AM ET #9

    Home favorites off an away dog win while their present opponent is off a home favorite loss (Lions) have been 11-17 ATS, 4-11 ATS in divisional games (-5.30) and 6-9 straight up (-0.07) ......strong indicator to consider the Elks, gulp! this week.

     

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    Home favorites off an away dog win while their present opponent is off a home favorite loss (Lions) have been 11-17 ATS, 4-11 ATS in divisional games (-5.30) and 6-9 straight up (-0.07) ......strong indicator to consider the Elks, gulp! this week.

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 9:52 AM ET #10

    Here is an interesting angle.

    We will compara the two teams playing each other this week using average  against the spread results.  When there is a negative difference of 6 or more per game.......Elks, Stamps

    Edmonton  are -16.5/game and the Lions are +8/game....as away dogs in week 3 or 4 those teams have been 16-11 ATS and 7-21 o/u, 8-4 ATS and 3-9 o/u in divisional games. 

    Calgary is -11.5/game and Montreal is +22/game...home dogs in this situation have been 6-6 ATS, 3-9 o/u.

     

    Teams with an average against the spread average of +7 or more in weeks 3 or 4 (Bombers, Lions, Alouettes, Riders) and eliminating away dogs......those teams have been 6-25 o/u!! 

    2<week<5 and tA(ats margin)>7 and HF, HD, AF, AD

     

     

    Teams that have a negative -7 points/game or worse covering average in weeks 3 or 4 have been 20-10 ATS as dogs.....Calgary, Edmonton, (Hamilton if a dog next week), including 9-1-1 ATS as away divisional dogs....Elks.

     

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    Here is an interesting angle.

    We will compara the two teams playing each other this week using average  against the spread results.  When there is a negative difference of 6 or more per game.......Elks, Stamps

    Edmonton  are -16.5/game and the Lions are +8/game....as away dogs in week 3 or 4 those teams have been 16-11 ATS and 7-21 o/u, 8-4 ATS and 3-9 o/u in divisional games. 

    Calgary is -11.5/game and Montreal is +22/game...home dogs in this situation have been 6-6 ATS, 3-9 o/u.

     

    Teams with an average against the spread average of +7 or more in weeks 3 or 4 (Bombers, Lions, Alouettes, Riders) and eliminating away dogs......those teams have been 6-25 o/u!! 

    2<week<5 and tA(ats margin)>7 and HF, HD, AF, AD

     

     

    Teams that have a negative -7 points/game or worse covering average in weeks 3 or 4 have been 20-10 ATS as dogs.....Calgary, Edmonton, (Hamilton if a dog next week), including 9-1-1 ATS as away divisional dogs....Elks.

     

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 10:20 AM ET #11

    My early leans depending on the spreads I like BC, Montreal, Winnipeg  and Sask

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    My early leans depending on the spreads I like BC, Montreal, Winnipeg  and Sask

     
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    Away dogs who next week line will be greater than 6 points different from this week's line....i.e., Ottawa will be +10 or more this week and they will be around pik or a small favorite next week versus the Lions.......13-7 ATS.....Redblacks

     

    Home favorites whose line will be at least six points worse their next game.....7-17 ATS.....AGAINST Lions, Riders

    week=3 and HF and n:line-line>6

     

    An away dog off a bye while their opponent isn't.....9-5 ATS, 5-9 o/u....Redblacks

    AD and rest>12 and o:rest<8

     

    A home favorite who will be playing a divisional rival next....19-41 ATS before week 5....VERSUS Saskatchewan

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    Away dogs who next week line will be greater than 6 points different from this week's line....i.e., Ottawa will be +10 or more this week and they will be around pik or a small favorite next week versus the Lions.......13-7 ATS.....Redblacks

     

    Home favorites whose line will be at least six points worse their next game.....7-17 ATS.....AGAINST Lions, Riders

    week=3 and HF and n:line-line>6

     

    An away dog off a bye while their opponent isn't.....9-5 ATS, 5-9 o/u....Redblacks

    AD and rest>12 and o:rest<8

     

    A home favorite who will be playing a divisional rival next....19-41 ATS before week 5....VERSUS Saskatchewan

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 10:46 AM ET #13

    Week 4 lines are at CFL.ca

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoody:

    Week 4 lines are at CFL.ca

     

    Thanks Hoodman.

     

    Betregal lines are out...these lines have varied from pinnacle's that are being release basically the day of the game.....last year if I recall correctly the major books started releasing CFL game in advance after 3 or 4 games of the season were completed.

    Here is what betregal has.....Indigo's in brackets.

     

    1)  Lions        -4  (-7)     Elks          41' (44)

    2)  Stamps     -1' (+3)    Alouettes  45' (46)

    3)  Argos       +6' (+5)    Bombers   40' (42)

    4)  Riders      -10'  (-14)  Redblacks 44' (44)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hoody:

    Week 4 lines are at CFL.ca

     

    Thanks Hoodman.

     

    Betregal lines are out...these lines have varied from pinnacle's that are being release basically the day of the game.....last year if I recall correctly the major books started releasing CFL game in advance after 3 or 4 games of the season were completed.

    Here is what betregal has.....Indigo's in brackets.

     

    1)  Lions        -4  (-7)     Elks          41' (44)

    2)  Stamps     -1' (+3)    Alouettes  45' (46)

    3)  Argos       +6' (+5)    Bombers   40' (42)

    4)  Riders      -10'  (-14)  Redblacks 44' (44)

     
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    Posted: Aug. 15, 2021 - 11:33 AM ET #15

    Lookahead lines has the Stamps as +7' @ the Bombers week 4....home favorites that will be greater than +7 the following game have been 16-45 ATS, 8-24 ATS in non-divisional games.

    Non-divisional away dogs of greater than 7 that will be home dogs their next game have been 26-26 ATS, but 18-35 o/u in non-divisional games....Redblacks.

    Away dogs that won their previous game as away dogs covering by at least 7 points (Alouettes) have been 24-15 ATS, 16-23 o/u.

    Teams that won greater than 11 games last season that have started out the season 0-2, have been 4-2 ATS, 6-0 straight up, winning by an average of 19 points/game.....Stamps, Tiger Cats

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    Lookahead lines has the Stamps as +7' @ the Bombers week 4....home favorites that will be greater than +7 the following game have been 16-45 ATS, 8-24 ATS in non-divisional games.

    Non-divisional away dogs of greater than 7 that will be home dogs their next game have been 26-26 ATS, but 18-35 o/u in non-divisional games....Redblacks.

    Away dogs that won their previous game as away dogs covering by at least 7 points (Alouettes) have been 24-15 ATS, 16-23 o/u.

    Teams that won greater than 11 games last season that have started out the season 0-2, have been 4-2 ATS, 6-0 straight up, winning by an average of 19 points/game.....Stamps, Tiger Cats

     
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    Top 3/bottom 3.

    1) Bombers

    2) Roughriders

    3) Alouettes

    7) Redblacks

    8) Stamps

    9) Elks

    Away dogs with the calculated line DISADVANTAGE.....Redblacks, Elks, have been 15-9 ATS, and 6-19 o/u in weeks 3 and 4. This has been especially pronounced in week 3 in non-divisional games as those teams have been 6-2 ATS and 1-7 o/u...Redblacks.

    Calculated line based on average margin differential for the two teams is Redblacks +12 and Elks +14'

    2<week<5 and oA(margin)-tA(margin)+3-line>0 and AD and t:wins<o:wins

     

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    Top 3/bottom 3.

    1) Bombers

    2) Roughriders

    3) Alouettes

    7) Redblacks

    8) Stamps

    9) Elks

    Away dogs with the calculated line DISADVANTAGE.....Redblacks, Elks, have been 15-9 ATS, and 6-19 o/u in weeks 3 and 4. This has been especially pronounced in week 3 in non-divisional games as those teams have been 6-2 ATS and 1-7 o/u...Redblacks.

    Calculated line based on average margin differential for the two teams is Redblacks +12 and Elks +14'

    2<week<5 and oA(margin)-tA(margin)+3-line>0 and AD and t:wins<o:wins

     

     
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    Wow man, you are an awesome resource and we are lucky to have you post these insights.  I will have to re-read all this great info again during the week and digest it all and add to my decisions.  Thank you very much Indigo!!!  Hopefully, with your statistical input, I can turn around my season.  Either way, you definitely add to the fun of the process. 

    Cheers  peace_5

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    Wow man, you are an awesome resource and we are lucky to have you post these insights.  I will have to re-read all this great info again during the week and digest it all and add to my decisions.  Thank you very much Indigo!!!  Hopefully, with your statistical input, I can turn around my season.  Either way, you definitely add to the fun of the process. 

    Cheers  peace_5

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2021 - 9:44 AM ET #18

    Thanks buddy let's pick some winners....good fortune the rest of the season.

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    Thanks buddy let's pick some winners....good fortune the rest of the season.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2021 - 10:24 AM ET #19

    Sports Interaction has posted their CFL lines....not too different than betregal....BC-5, Calgary -2, Winnipeg -7, Saskatchewan -11'. 

    I am pretty surprised that Calgary is favored, which is based on the past rather than on present reality.  Hoody has said on his thread that fanduel has the Stamps at -7, which for betting purposes I'd love to see.  

    I make the Alouettes as favorites to win the East.  I had concerns about their defense but after watching them and seeing the pedigree of the D-coordinator those concerns are abated.  Their receivers are the only weak point on their team.  I am predicting that Toronto will be there, as long as Arbuckle is quarterbacking.  Bethel-Thompson is not going to win in the CFL.  All four of the East teams have good defenses this year, and their divisional games should largely be UNDERs this season.

    For Hamilton, their "it factor" that they had in their 15-3 regular season in 2019 is history....the slide and demise of runners-up will be real and painful for them this season.  I'll look forward to their game in week four at Montreal....that will tell us how real the Als are, and if Hamilton has a chance to finish over .500 for the season.

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    Sports Interaction has posted their CFL lines....not too different than betregal....BC-5, Calgary -2, Winnipeg -7, Saskatchewan -11'. 

    I am pretty surprised that Calgary is favored, which is based on the past rather than on present reality.  Hoody has said on his thread that fanduel has the Stamps at -7, which for betting purposes I'd love to see.  

    I make the Alouettes as favorites to win the East.  I had concerns about their defense but after watching them and seeing the pedigree of the D-coordinator those concerns are abated.  Their receivers are the only weak point on their team.  I am predicting that Toronto will be there, as long as Arbuckle is quarterbacking.  Bethel-Thompson is not going to win in the CFL.  All four of the East teams have good defenses this year, and their divisional games should largely be UNDERs this season.

    For Hamilton, their "it factor" that they had in their 15-3 regular season in 2019 is history....the slide and demise of runners-up will be real and painful for them this season.  I'll look forward to their game in week four at Montreal....that will tell us how real the Als are, and if Hamilton has a chance to finish over .500 for the season.

     
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    you're a professional Indigo. peace_5

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    Just clicked on fanduel and there's no line but there is on the covers odds page , I only had them by 1/2 pt and was leaning to Mon ,we'll see though.

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    Just clicked on fanduel and there's no line but there is on the covers odds page , I only had them by 1/2 pt and was leaning to Mon ,we'll see though.

     
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    Posted: Aug. 16, 2021 - 5:55 PM ET #22

    Flattery always works on me Spot and SB....lol!

    Thanks for the heads up Hoodman...Fanduel on covers has BC at -9, which is about where you and I had it.....they have the Argos at +3 and the Stamps -7.

    I'm taking the Alouettes at that line if Mr. Pinnacle and his cronies decide that  bookie Mr. Fanduel knows the CFL.

    I think despite some positive situations for Edmonton that BC is gonna crush the Elks....I think SirBruce might be onto something and possibly Edmonton fans and also the gambling gods are disgusted with their new name.  The Elks might have to burn some incense for awhile to appease whoever.

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    Flattery always works on me Spot and SB....lol!

    Thanks for the heads up Hoodman...Fanduel on covers has BC at -9, which is about where you and I had it.....they have the Argos at +3 and the Stamps -7.

    I'm taking the Alouettes at that line if Mr. Pinnacle and his cronies decide that  bookie Mr. Fanduel knows the CFL.

    I think despite some positive situations for Edmonton that BC is gonna crush the Elks....I think SirBruce might be onto something and possibly Edmonton fans and also the gambling gods are disgusted with their new name.  The Elks might have to burn some incense for awhile to appease whoever.

     
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    How do teams that were worse  last season than their present opponent (usually favors the previously worse team), but have been better than their opponent present season, before week 10?

    This scenario fits the Lions and the Alouettes this week

    As home favorites...8-22 ATS.....Lions

    As away dogs......16-20 ATS.....Alouettes

     

    PRSW<o:PRSW and AD, HF and t:wins>o:wins and week<10

     

    Teams that were worse last season and have been worse this season?

    As home divisional dogs 12-12 ATS, 16-5 OVER.....Argos

     

    PRSW<o:PRSW and HD and t:wins<o:wins and week<10 and DIV

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    How do teams that were worse  last season than their present opponent (usually favors the previously worse team), but have been better than their opponent present season, before week 10?

    This scenario fits the Lions and the Alouettes this week

    As home favorites...8-22 ATS.....Lions

    As away dogs......16-20 ATS.....Alouettes

     

    PRSW<o:PRSW and AD, HF and t:wins>o:wins and week<10

     

    Teams that were worse last season and have been worse this season?

    As home divisional dogs 12-12 ATS, 16-5 OVER.....Argos

     

    PRSW<o:PRSW and HD and t:wins<o:wins and week<10 and DIV

     
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    Teams in the second game of a back-to-back, losing the first as an away dog and now a home dog.....14-15 ATS.

    If in that away dog loss our team scored 13 or less points, they have been 2-8 ATS, losing the game by an average of almost 11 points/game.....Argos

    This game is a classic heart versus head game for me.  I like the Argos A LOT....however these historical results do not back my gut feeling on the game.

    So, what to do? ....do we follow head or heart?   

    My perception of reality is that passing the game in a scenario such as this is the best solution for me.

    However, your perception of reality will be different than mine, and it will different from the guy sitting next to you, or your brother's.  There is no one right way, only the way that seems best for you.  Differing opinions are what make a market, whether it be buying stocks, purchasing  corn futures, or figuring out who is going to cover a line of a football game.

    As Bertrand Russell famously was quoted as saying....

     

    "The problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are so sure of themselves and  the wiser man  so full of doubts."

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    Teams in the second game of a back-to-back, losing the first as an away dog and now a home dog.....14-15 ATS.

    If in that away dog loss our team scored 13 or less points, they have been 2-8 ATS, losing the game by an average of almost 11 points/game.....Argos

    This game is a classic heart versus head game for me.  I like the Argos A LOT....however these historical results do not back my gut feeling on the game.

    So, what to do? ....do we follow head or heart?   

    My perception of reality is that passing the game in a scenario such as this is the best solution for me.

    However, your perception of reality will be different than mine, and it will different from the guy sitting next to you, or your brother's.  There is no one right way, only the way that seems best for you.  Differing opinions are what make a market, whether it be buying stocks, purchasing  corn futures, or figuring out who is going to cover a line of a football game.

    As Bertrand Russell famously was quoted as saying....

     

    "The problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are so sure of themselves and  the wiser man  so full of doubts."

     
     
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    There are two teams this week that will be favored their next two games....the Lions and the Alouettes.

    Teams in that scenario have hit 57% of their games ATS.

    If they are an away dog and favored their next two games they've covered 71% of the time (108-45 ATS), with this dropping to 68% if the team in question has more wins than their present opponent.  If the Alouettes are indeed an away dog this week, they will qualify.

     

    n:F and nn:F and AD and nn:playoffs=0

     

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    There are two teams this week that will be favored their next two games....the Lions and the Alouettes.

    Teams in that scenario have hit 57% of their games ATS.

    If they are an away dog and favored their next two games they've covered 71% of the time (108-45 ATS), with this dropping to 68% if the team in question has more wins than their present opponent.  If the Alouettes are indeed an away dog this week, they will qualify.

     

    n:F and nn:F and AD and nn:playoffs=0

     

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