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215Hustler

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 9:53 AM ET #26

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PLAYAAAA1969

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 9:53 AM ET #27

I think w Holman back Detroit starts playing w more confidence and this game against a ranked Alabama gives them a chance to boost their level....Really like Detroit in this spot....What you think ODD'S ??

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OGHowie282

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 9:55 AM ET #28

Quote Originally Posted by PLAYAAAA1969:

I think w Holman back Detroit starts playing w more confidence and this game against a ranked Alabama gives them a chance to boost their level....Really like Detroit in this spot....What you think ODD'S ??

This answer wasnt enough info?

In relation to the Detroit/Bama game as I continue top read many things on many of these teams for Sundays card the back of my mind keeps thinking about how easy it looks for anyone who understands basketball to take the pt's with Detroit. It also seemed that way with Bonnies laying a big number vs Canisius yesterday along & Syracuse laying a big number to GW as both favs covered the big number. Now you guys now as much as i know that it's not really practical to necessarily relate this Detroit/Bama situation and number to those 2 games. But I ask myself this. Do I really feel that the smart money should be on Detroit here? Was it on Canisius or GW? Those are huge debates but the bottom line is (at least in my head) Detroit has hit cold streaks and their 3 point shooting is terrible. You need a decent shooting team to hang with defense's such as Alabama so in final I would think the Detroit +13.5 on the road in a hostile environment is actually one hell of a scary bet. I think our advantages will be exploited with Eli Holman within the Horizon conference instead of just taking a bunch of points because it looks tasty. Hell the books have even set the trap with great pleasure on that game as they have already moved it from +15.5 to +13.5. Recreational bettors go crazy over seeing that type of stuff and we all know in the long run the books profit from this move over and over and over again each day. Think about it what is really the difference between +13.5 and +15.5 in this game. I'n my eyes not too much, but that 2 point movement the who world just witnessed probably attracted extra cash flow on Detroit. Hell I even leaned them at first glance. I'm not saying this thought process is right on this game. But over the long run we can all save our selves LOTS of money from staying away from games like this. I would be very scared if I had my hands on a Detroit ticket right now. Detroit's defense is mediocre at best and frankly om the road this could easily turn into a 20 pt shalackin...

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Quote Originally Posted by PLAYAAAA1969:

I think w Holman back Detroit starts playing w more confidence and this game against a ranked Alabama gives them a chance to boost their level....Really like Detroit in this spot....What you think ODD'S ??

This answer wasnt enough info?

In relation to the Detroit/Bama game as I continue top read many things on many of these teams for Sundays card the back of my mind keeps thinking about how easy it looks for anyone who understands basketball to take the pt's with Detroit. It also seemed that way with Bonnies laying a big number vs Canisius yesterday along & Syracuse laying a big number to GW as both favs covered the big number. Now you guys now as much as i know that it's not really practical to necessarily relate this Detroit/Bama situation and number to those 2 games. But I ask myself this. Do I really feel that the smart money should be on Detroit here? Was it on Canisius or GW? Those are huge debates but the bottom line is (at least in my head) Detroit has hit cold streaks and their 3 point shooting is terrible. You need a decent shooting team to hang with defense's such as Alabama so in final I would think the Detroit +13.5 on the road in a hostile environment is actually one hell of a scary bet. I think our advantages will be exploited with Eli Holman within the Horizon conference instead of just taking a bunch of points because it looks tasty. Hell the books have even set the trap with great pleasure on that game as they have already moved it from +15.5 to +13.5. Recreational bettors go crazy over seeing that type of stuff and we all know in the long run the books profit from this move over and over and over again each day. Think about it what is really the difference between +13.5 and +15.5 in this game. I'n my eyes not too much, but that 2 point movement the who world just witnessed probably attracted extra cash flow on Detroit. Hell I even leaned them at first glance. I'm not saying this thought process is right on this game. But over the long run we can all save our selves LOTS of money from staying away from games like this. I would be very scared if I had my hands on a Detroit ticket right now. Detroit's defense is mediocre at best and frankly om the road this could easily turn into a 20 pt shalackin...

johntruong911

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 10:04 AM ET #29

Illinois, Baylor, and Indiana.... these team are my favorite

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PLAYAAAA1969

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 10:06 AM ET #30

Quote Originally Posted by OGHowie282:

This answer wasnt enough info?

In relation to the Detroit/Bama game as I continue top read many things on many of these teams for Sundays card the back of my mind keeps thinking about how easy it looks for anyone who understands basketball to take the pt's with Detroit. It also seemed that way with Bonnies laying a big number vs Canisius yesterday along & Syracuse laying a big number to GW as both favs covered the big number. Now you guys now as much as i know that it's not really practical to necessarily relate this Detroit/Bama situation and number to those 2 games. But I ask myself this. Do I really feel that the smart money should be on Detroit here? Was it on Canisius or GW? Those are huge debates but the bottom line is (at least in my head) Detroit has hit cold streaks and their 3 point shooting is terrible. You need a decent shooting team to hang with defense's such as Alabama so in final I would think the Detroit +13.5 on the road in a hostile environment is actually one hell of a scary bet. I think our advantages will be exploited with Eli Holman within the Horizon conference instead of just taking a bunch of points because it looks tasty. Hell the books have even set the trap with great pleasure on that game as they have already moved it from +15.5 to +13.5. Recreational bettors go crazy over seeing that type of stuff and we all know in the long run the books profit from this move over and over and over again each day. Think about it what is really the difference between +13.5 and +15.5 in this game. I'n my eyes not too much, but that 2 point movement the who world just witnessed probably attracted extra cash flow on Detroit. Hell I even leaned them at first glance. I'm not saying this thought process is right on this game. But over the long run we can all save our selves LOTS of money from staying away from games like this. I would be very scared if I had my hands on a Detroit ticket right now. Detroit's defense is mediocre at best and frankly om the road this could easily turn into a 20 pt shalackin...

I can't agree more ....My though process says Detroit was picked to be the cream of the Horizon and have struggled , they have their leading scorer back and I feel this game is much bigger for Detroit than Bama...Bama by far is the superior team but I feel Detroit gives MAX effort today....and in college, day in and day out Motivation plays a big key in games....

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Quote Originally Posted by OGHowie282:

This answer wasnt enough info?

In relation to the Detroit/Bama game as I continue top read many things on many of these teams for Sundays card the back of my mind keeps thinking about how easy it looks for anyone who understands basketball to take the pt's with Detroit. It also seemed that way with Bonnies laying a big number vs Canisius yesterday along & Syracuse laying a big number to GW as both favs covered the big number. Now you guys now as much as i know that it's not really practical to necessarily relate this Detroit/Bama situation and number to those 2 games. But I ask myself this. Do I really feel that the smart money should be on Detroit here? Was it on Canisius or GW? Those are huge debates but the bottom line is (at least in my head) Detroit has hit cold streaks and their 3 point shooting is terrible. You need a decent shooting team to hang with defense's such as Alabama so in final I would think the Detroit +13.5 on the road in a hostile environment is actually one hell of a scary bet. I think our advantages will be exploited with Eli Holman within the Horizon conference instead of just taking a bunch of points because it looks tasty. Hell the books have even set the trap with great pleasure on that game as they have already moved it from +15.5 to +13.5. Recreational bettors go crazy over seeing that type of stuff and we all know in the long run the books profit from this move over and over and over again each day. Think about it what is really the difference between +13.5 and +15.5 in this game. I'n my eyes not too much, but that 2 point movement the who world just witnessed probably attracted extra cash flow on Detroit. Hell I even leaned them at first glance. I'm not saying this thought process is right on this game. But over the long run we can all save our selves LOTS of money from staying away from games like this. I would be very scared if I had my hands on a Detroit ticket right now. Detroit's defense is mediocre at best and frankly om the road this could easily turn into a 20 pt shalackin...

I can't agree more ....My though process says Detroit was picked to be the cream of the Horizon and have struggled , they have their leading scorer back and I feel this game is much bigger for Detroit than Bama...Bama by far is the superior team but I feel Detroit gives MAX effort today....and in college, day in and day out Motivation plays a big key in games....

fupm

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 10:34 AM ET #31

OB nice write-ups as always! Thanks fopr the valuable insight!

FUPM in Cleveland, Ohio!

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Augustus1

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 10:37 AM ET #32

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3dogphil

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 10:56 AM ET #33

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capper4ever

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 11:03 AM ET #34

Great work my dude

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OGHowie282

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 12:00 PM ET #35

FSU down to -23.5

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DoctorD

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 12:24 PM ET #36

Quote Originally Posted by johntruong911:

Illinois, Baylor, and
Indiana.... these team are my favorite

That is great John, now go on outside and watch out for cars.

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BigJohnStud

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 12:28 PM ET #37

Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:

UC Riverside@Montana St. under 128.5 for 20 units... The UC-Riverside/Montana st game is a game where slow (Riverside 53spg) meets fast (Montana st 61spg). Montana st has hoovered right around their D-1 opponents defensive averages as here below is what their opponents allow per game followed by what Montana St scored...

(Cal State-Baker) Allows 70ppg Montana st scored 71

(San Jose St) Allows 73ppg Montana st scored 77

(Idaho) Allows 67ppg Montana st scored 67

(Seattle) Allows 69ppg Montana st scored 73

(Utah) Allows 75ppg Montana st scored 70

(Arizona st) Allows 65ppg Montana st scored 72

So as we can see above that Montana st has played close to the line set forth by it's opponent's. Now most will see that Montana st is averaging 81ppg on 61 shot attempts but those number's are boosted by 2 non D-1 opponent games as they scored 220pts on 143 shots vs Willamette, a D-3 team who is in last place of the Northwest conference with a 2-7 record & Northern New Mexico, an NAIA D-2 independent team that currently has a record of just 1-14 while losing those 14 games by an average margin of defeat by 29ppg. So it's no wonder why when you click on Montana state basketball you see an 81pp average followed by 61 shot attempts per game when we really should be looking at their D-1 adjusted stats (computed manually) of 71ppg & 57 shots per game. That's quite the difference in relation to their Sunday opponent when involving the number's the books are giving us. As stated above if Montana st carries on their consistent results of staying close to their opponents defensive averages then we should have a great shot at cashing the under in this game because UC-Riverside is allowing only 58ppg and 2 of their games went to OT so if we took the OT's out of they are actually holding opponents to just 55ppg and just 39% shooting. That 39% vows to be very important because with Riverside averaging just 52ppg on 37% shooting combined with the fact they average just 53 shots per game we should have are selves quite the little struggle on offense in this game as even Montana st with those 2 patsy games throw in the mix are still shooting just 41% from the field...

odds..i currently have the o/u at 124..any feedback?

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Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:

UC Riverside@Montana St. under 128.5 for 20 units... The UC-Riverside/Montana st game is a game where slow (Riverside 53spg) meets fast (Montana st 61spg). Montana st has hoovered right around their D-1 opponents defensive averages as here below is what their opponents allow per game followed by what Montana St scored...

(Cal State-Baker) Allows 70ppg Montana st scored 71

(San Jose St) Allows 73ppg Montana st scored 77

(Idaho) Allows 67ppg Montana st scored 67

(Seattle) Allows 69ppg Montana st scored 73

(Utah) Allows 75ppg Montana st scored 70

(Arizona st) Allows 65ppg Montana st scored 72

So as we can see above that Montana st has played close to the line set forth by it's opponent's. Now most will see that Montana st is averaging 81ppg on 61 shot attempts but those number's are boosted by 2 non D-1 opponent games as they scored 220pts on 143 shots vs Willamette, a D-3 team who is in last place of the Northwest conference with a 2-7 record & Northern New Mexico, an NAIA D-2 independent team that currently has a record of just 1-14 while losing those 14 games by an average margin of defeat by 29ppg. So it's no wonder why when you click on Montana state basketball you see an 81pp average followed by 61 shot attempts per game when we really should be looking at their D-1 adjusted stats (computed manually) of 71ppg & 57 shots per game. That's quite the difference in relation to their Sunday opponent when involving the number's the books are giving us. As stated above if Montana st carries on their consistent results of staying close to their opponents defensive averages then we should have a great shot at cashing the under in this game because UC-Riverside is allowing only 58ppg and 2 of their games went to OT so if we took the OT's out of they are actually holding opponents to just 55ppg and just 39% shooting. That 39% vows to be very important because with Riverside averaging just 52ppg on 37% shooting combined with the fact they average just 53 shots per game we should have are selves quite the little struggle on offense in this game as even Montana st with those 2 patsy games throw in the mix are still shooting just 41% from the field...

odds..i currently have the o/u at 124..any feedback?

fupm

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 12:39 PM ET #38

Yo OB, any thoughts on CS Full/E.Wash UNDER? Steam moves! FUPM!

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catera123

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 1:29 PM ET #39

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oddsbuster

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 5:03 PM ET #40

UC Riverside@Montana St. under 128.5 for 20 units...

0-1 so far....

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brthestar

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 5:55 PM ET #41

yes sir! OFER ONE! I have a STRONG feeling you'll get some back with remaining pick....GL brudda!

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johntruong911

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 6:03 PM ET #42

Detroit u and under sounds good to u oddsbuster?

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oddsbuster

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 6:13 PM ET #43

Quote Originally Posted by johntruong911:

Detroit u and under sounds good to u oddsbuster?

My feelings on Detroit faded away in time to a Bama lean. Anything I ever play is always posted...BOL...

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johntruong911

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 6:33 PM ET #44

Dallas under tonight, first half under.... Dallas to win by 7 and under 150 each. A lot of games has gone over today

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oddsbuster

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 6:57 PM ET #45

Quote Originally Posted by johntruong911:

Dallas under tonight, first half under.... Dallas to win by 7 and under 150 each. A lot of games has gone over today

That has nothing to do with tonight's NFL game. I leaned to the over at glance knowing full well that both teams have trouble in the secondary. Most everyday bettors should be aware that Tony Romo has always been a great QT in December. Looking back at last years games every single December game went over the total.

Sunday 12/05/10 @Indy w(38-35) 47.5o

Sunday Night 12/12/10 Philly L(27-30) 50.5o

Sunday 12/19/10 Wash w(33-30) 43.5o

Saturday 12/25/10 @Arizona L(26-27) 450

Last year every single Dallas home game went over the total yet this year Dallas home games have only exceeded the total 2 time in 6 attempts. The New York Giants & the Dallas Cowboys have historically been an over match up as their past 4 meetings have all went over the total with scores of Dal(33-20), NYG(41-35), NYG(31-24) & NYG(33-31). These 2 teams combined passing yardage for each of the past 4 match up's read as this 457, 633, 542 & 700(most recent). The 700 yard game even included Jon Kitna throwing for 327 yards and 3td's. I'm will to wager that tonight's Sunday night match up has a solid shot to exceed the total with these 2 passing offense's indoors...

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PLAYAAAA1969

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 8:05 PM ET #46

Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:

That has nothing to do with tonight's NFL game. I leaned to the over at glance knowing full well that both teams have trouble in the secondary. Most everyday bettors should be aware that Tony Romo has always been a great QT in December. Looking back at last years games every single December game went over the total.

Sunday 12/05/10 @Indy w(38-35) 47.5o

Sunday Night 12/12/10 Philly L(27-30) 50.5o

Sunday 12/19/10 Wash w(33-30) 43.5o

Saturday 12/25/10 @Arizona L(26-27) 450

Last year every single Dallas home game went over the total yet this year Dallas home games have only exceeded the total 2 time in 6 attempts. The New York Giants & the Dallas Cowboys have historically been an over match up as their past 4 meetings have all went over the total with scores of Dal(33-20), NYG(41-35), NYG(31-24) & NYG(33-31). These 2 teams combined passing yardage for each of the past 4 match up's read as this 457, 633, 542 & 700(most recent). The 700 yard game even included Jon Kitna throwing for 327 yards and 3td's. I'm will to wager that tonight's Sunday night match up has a solid shot to exceed the total with these 2 passing offense's indoors...

Like those #'s..As great as Romo has been ,,he has never covered -4

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PLAYAAAA1969

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 8:07 PM ET #47

Good Day...Detroit just backdoor covered ....

Murray St

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sog

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 8:20 PM ET #48

great call on murry st!

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oddsbuster

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 8:21 PM ET #49

Murray St. +11 for 20 units... POD

1-1 on the night in CBB getting juiced -2 units...

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oddsbuster

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Posted: Dec. 11, 2011 - 8:25 PM ET #50

Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:

kdawgy & YACKER... In relation to the Detroit/Bama game as I continue to read many things on many of these teams for Sundays card the back of my mind keeps thinking about how easy it looks for anyone who understands basketball to take the pt's with Detroit. It also seemed that way with Bonnies laying a big number vs Canisius yesterday along & Syracuse laying a big number to GW as both favs covered the big number. Now you guys now as much as i know that it's not really practical to necessarily relate this Detroit/Bama situation and number to those 2 games. But I ask myself this. Do I really feel that the smart money should be on Detroit here? Was it on Canisius or GW? Those are huge debates but the bottom line is (at least in my head) Detroit has hit cold streaks and their 3 point shooting is terrible. You need a decent shooting team to hang with defense's such as Alabama so in final I would think the Detroit +13.5 on the road in a hostile environment is actually one hell of a scary bet. I think our advantages will be exploited with Eli Holman within the Horizon conference instead of just taking a bunch of points because it looks tasty. Hell the books have even set the trap with great pleasure on that game as they have already moved it from +15.5 to +13.5. Recreational bettors go crazy over seeing that type of stuff and we all know in the long run the books profit from this move over and over and over again each day. Think about it what is really the difference between +13.5 and +15.5 in this game. I'n my eyes not too much, but that 2 point movement the who world just witnessed probably attracted extra cash flow on Detroit. Hell I even leaned them at first glance. I'm not saying this thought process is right on this game. But over the long run we can all save our selves LOTS of money from staying away from games like this. I would be very scared if I had my hands on a Detroit ticket right now. Detroit's defense is mediocre at best and frankly om the road this could easily turn into a 20 pt shalackin...

Detroit shoots 32% from the field and goes 0 for 12 from behind the arc. If you can't shoot the ball you can't beat great defensive teams. Congrats to Detroit backer's on the cover as the points fared to be too many for the Bama offense to handle...

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Quote Originally Posted by oddsbuster:

kdawgy & YACKER... In relation to the Detroit/Bama game as I continue to read many things on many of these teams for Sundays card the back of my mind keeps thinking about how easy it looks for anyone who understands basketball to take the pt's with Detroit. It also seemed that way with Bonnies laying a big number vs Canisius yesterday along & Syracuse laying a big number to GW as both favs covered the big number. Now you guys now as much as i know that it's not really practical to necessarily relate this Detroit/Bama situation and number to those 2 games. But I ask myself this. Do I really feel that the smart money should be on Detroit here? Was it on Canisius or GW? Those are huge debates but the bottom line is (at least in my head) Detroit has hit cold streaks and their 3 point shooting is terrible. You need a decent shooting team to hang with defense's such as Alabama so in final I would think the Detroit +13.5 on the road in a hostile environment is actually one hell of a scary bet. I think our advantages will be exploited with Eli Holman within the Horizon conference instead of just taking a bunch of points because it looks tasty. Hell the books have even set the trap with great pleasure on that game as they have already moved it from +15.5 to +13.5. Recreational bettors go crazy over seeing that type of stuff and we all know in the long run the books profit from this move over and over and over again each day. Think about it what is really the difference between +13.5 and +15.5 in this game. I'n my eyes not too much, but that 2 point movement the who world just witnessed probably attracted extra cash flow on Detroit. Hell I even leaned them at first glance. I'm not saying this thought process is right on this game. But over the long run we can all save our selves LOTS of money from staying away from games like this. I would be very scared if I had my hands on a Detroit ticket right now. Detroit's defense is mediocre at best and frankly om the road this could easily turn into a 20 pt shalackin...

Detroit shoots 32% from the field and goes 0 for 12 from behind the arc. If you can't shoot the ball you can't beat great defensive teams. Congrats to Detroit backer's on the cover as the points fared to be too many for the Bama offense to handle...

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