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    K'S NCAABB FINAL FOUR **LARGE PLAY**

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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2010 - 11:55 AM ET #1

    Will update this record as the week progresses, but starting this thread now as I start locking in plays.

    POST SEASON ATS: 51-34, +32.8 UNITS
    LARGE PLAYS (***): 7-0
    MEDIUM PLAYS (**): 13-8
    NCAA: 27-21
    NIT: 14-4
    CBI: 3-5
    CIT: 7-4


    Write up to follow...


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    DUKE -1 (-140)***


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    POST SEASON ATS: 51-34, +32.8 UNITS
    LARGE PLAYS (***): 7-0
    MEDIUM PLAYS (**): 13-8
    NCAA: 27-21
    NIT: 14-4
    CBI: 3-5
    CIT: 7-4


    Write up to follow...


    NCAA
    DUKE -1 (-140)***


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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2010 - 2:43 PM ET #4

    Tough Game K... WVU is a tough team, I look forward to the write up, maybe you see something I do not. GL
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    Tough Game K... WVU is a tough team, I look forward to the write up, maybe you see something I do not. GL
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2010 - 3:51 PM ET #7

    GL... will be interested to see the write up, thus far your large plays have spoken for themselves!
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    GL... will be interested to see the write up, thus far your large plays have spoken for themselves!
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2010 - 3:54 PM ET #8

    So, are you saying you would not take Duke -3?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Schmohawk:

    So, are you saying you would not take Duke -3?

    If I felt comfortable doing so, I wouldn't have bought it down to -1 and laid the extra juice.  BOL to whatever you play.
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    So, are you saying you would not take Duke -3?

    If I felt comfortable doing so, I wouldn't have bought it down to -1 and laid the extra juice.  BOL to whatever you play.
     
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    Here's what I learned from the WVU/Kentucky game:  WVU is scrappy... they play tough defense and exposed Kentucky for their short comings.  I was on WVU that game for my biggest wager this post season and having seen them play in BE action this year, I'm a believer in this team.  That being said......

    POSSESSIONS
    I believe that when you have to great teams facing off against one another, the game really comes down to a couple of things and one of them are possessions.  You can't score if you don't have the ball.  The one flaw I noticed from the VVU/Kentucky game was how the Mountaineers got smacked around on the offensive glass, something that they should've been better at.  Size was definitely an issue and now they have to go against Zoubek and the Plumlee brothers (7' 1", 6' 10", and 6' 10" respectively).  Kentucky had so many second chance opportunities but couldn't capitalize on them.  Duke is too good offensively that they will make another team pay.  They have three great ball handlers in Scheyer, Smith and Singler and will not turn the ball over much.

    OFFENSE
    Duke handeled the Baylor zone effectively in stretches and were able to get their shots against a very big front line.  Zoubek did an admirable job handleling the ball in the high post as their guards ran cuts and back screens against Baylor.  I think playing Baylor will give Duke a leg up in preparing for WVU's 2/3 or 1/3/1.  WVU forced Kentucky to beat them either outside or at the free throw line and couldn't.  Duke is a much better team in those areas and will surely make the open jumper if you give it to them... they've faced the second hardest defensive schedule in the country this year.

    DEFENSE
    Statistically, Duke is the best in the country at defending the moneyball and gives up less than 19 attempts a game at the free throw line... In the UK game consider that 53 of WVU's 73 points came from either a three pointer or free throw... for the year, almost 35% of WVU's shots from the field are three point attempts.  Also, If Bryant returns, he actually has the third highest turnover rate for players who average 30% of the minutes or more and is just 31.5% from three.  

    INTANGIBLES
    Will gladly take the coach who's going to the Final Four for the 11th time.  If I'm not mistaken, Coach K is 7-3 SU in Final Four games and 4-1 SU in Final Four games as a #1 seed.  Not a Duke fan, never will be, but it's hard deny the talent on this team.

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    Here's what I learned from the WVU/Kentucky game:  WVU is scrappy... they play tough defense and exposed Kentucky for their short comings.  I was on WVU that game for my biggest wager this post season and having seen them play in BE action this year, I'm a believer in this team.  That being said......

    POSSESSIONS
    I believe that when you have to great teams facing off against one another, the game really comes down to a couple of things and one of them are possessions.  You can't score if you don't have the ball.  The one flaw I noticed from the VVU/Kentucky game was how the Mountaineers got smacked around on the offensive glass, something that they should've been better at.  Size was definitely an issue and now they have to go against Zoubek and the Plumlee brothers (7' 1", 6' 10", and 6' 10" respectively).  Kentucky had so many second chance opportunities but couldn't capitalize on them.  Duke is too good offensively that they will make another team pay.  They have three great ball handlers in Scheyer, Smith and Singler and will not turn the ball over much.

    OFFENSE
    Duke handeled the Baylor zone effectively in stretches and were able to get their shots against a very big front line.  Zoubek did an admirable job handleling the ball in the high post as their guards ran cuts and back screens against Baylor.  I think playing Baylor will give Duke a leg up in preparing for WVU's 2/3 or 1/3/1.  WVU forced Kentucky to beat them either outside or at the free throw line and couldn't.  Duke is a much better team in those areas and will surely make the open jumper if you give it to them... they've faced the second hardest defensive schedule in the country this year.

    DEFENSE
    Statistically, Duke is the best in the country at defending the moneyball and gives up less than 19 attempts a game at the free throw line... In the UK game consider that 53 of WVU's 73 points came from either a three pointer or free throw... for the year, almost 35% of WVU's shots from the field are three point attempts.  Also, If Bryant returns, he actually has the third highest turnover rate for players who average 30% of the minutes or more and is just 31.5% from three.  

    INTANGIBLES
    Will gladly take the coach who's going to the Final Four for the 11th time.  If I'm not mistaken, Coach K is 7-3 SU in Final Four games and 4-1 SU in Final Four games as a #1 seed.  Not a Duke fan, never will be, but it's hard deny the talent on this team.

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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2010 - 5:54 PM ET #11

    I'm going the other way. Duke is tough, and Coach K is great, but WVA and Huggins aren't pikers either.  The past two games, Duke has been average - they struggled with a marginal Purdue team until finally pulling away in the end, and they were the benefactor of a couple of very suspect calls against Baylor. Huggins, I'm sure, is very aware of their offensive rebounding woes and he'll correct it this week. I believe that Duke has been flirting with disaster and WVA is on a serious, passionate mission.
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    I'm going the other way. Duke is tough, and Coach K is great, but WVA and Huggins aren't pikers either.  The past two games, Duke has been average - they struggled with a marginal Purdue team until finally pulling away in the end, and they were the benefactor of a couple of very suspect calls against Baylor. Huggins, I'm sure, is very aware of their offensive rebounding woes and he'll correct it this week. I believe that Duke has been flirting with disaster and WVA is on a serious, passionate mission.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2010 - 5:57 PM ET #12



    Good luck, bro.  You have had a great tournament.  Keep it up.
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    Good luck, bro.  You have had a great tournament.  Keep it up.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by callmetim:

    I'm going the other way. Duke is tough, and Coach K is great, but WVA and Huggins aren't pikers either.  The past two games, Duke has been average - they struggled with a marginal Purdue team until finally pulling away in the end, and they were the benefactor of a couple of very suspect calls against Baylor. Huggins, I'm sure, is very aware of their offensive rebounding woes and he'll correct it this week. I believe that Duke has been flirting with disaster and WVA is on a serious, passionate mission.

    Good luck with your play... you can get +3 now, so we can both win 
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    Quote Originally Posted by callmetim:

    I'm going the other way. Duke is tough, and Coach K is great, but WVA and Huggins aren't pikers either.  The past two games, Duke has been average - they struggled with a marginal Purdue team until finally pulling away in the end, and they were the benefactor of a couple of very suspect calls against Baylor. Huggins, I'm sure, is very aware of their offensive rebounding woes and he'll correct it this week. I believe that Duke has been flirting with disaster and WVA is on a serious, passionate mission.

    Good luck with your play... you can get +3 now, so we can both win 
     
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    Why would you lock in so far in advance?

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    Why would you lock in so far in advance?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtlguy:

    Special

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    Why would you lock in so far in advance?


    Wanted to get in before there was any major moves on the line.  It's already gone up a .5 point since I made the bet this morning.  That's not to say that it couldn't move back down, but we'll see.
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    Why would you lock in so far in advance?


    Wanted to get in before there was any major moves on the line.  It's already gone up a .5 point since I made the bet this morning.  That's not to say that it couldn't move back down, but we'll see.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2010 - 6:22 PM ET #16

    But what happens if new info comes out that makes you want to bet the other way ie injury etc
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    But what happens if new info comes out that makes you want to bet the other way ie injury etc
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mtlguy:

    But what happens if new info comes out that makes you want to bet the other way ie injury etc

    So it goes...
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    But what happens if new info comes out that makes you want to bet the other way ie injury etc

    So it goes...
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2010 - 6:25 PM ET #18

    Special K BEST OF LUCK........

     

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    Special K BEST OF LUCK........

     

     
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    now at +3, keep on hitting PUKE gents.

    Lets take a peak @ Dukes year, 33-5 #1 in a very down ACC league. Sure they have the BIG 3, but Zoubek will get into foul trouble battling the boards with this WV squad. WV is quicker, more athletic and has more heart. I picked in my bracket PUKE to lose to Baylor, but my money was on 'em.   THREE SACKS  

    This game can be viewed as toss up, with WV - BIG East champs coming to battle. I watched the Big East torny as surely you did the same, and this team can turn it up whenever necassary blowing the game wide open - see KY, etc.. Coach K is a master mind but he wont have his hands on the rock!

    Remember BUTLER is the best player on either team.



    WV +3 is a bargain (extra day of rest too)
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    now at +3, keep on hitting PUKE gents.

    Lets take a peak @ Dukes year, 33-5 #1 in a very down ACC league. Sure they have the BIG 3, but Zoubek will get into foul trouble battling the boards with this WV squad. WV is quicker, more athletic and has more heart. I picked in my bracket PUKE to lose to Baylor, but my money was on 'em.   THREE SACKS  

    This game can be viewed as toss up, with WV - BIG East champs coming to battle. I watched the Big East torny as surely you did the same, and this team can turn it up whenever necassary blowing the game wide open - see KY, etc.. Coach K is a master mind but he wont have his hands on the rock!

    Remember BUTLER is the best player on either team.



    WV +3 is a bargain (extra day of rest too)
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2010 - 9:29 PM ET #21

    Quote Originally Posted by YaMon:


    This game can be viewed as toss up, with WV - BIG East champs coming to battle. I watched the Big East torny as surely you did the same, and this team can turn it up whenever necassary blowing the game wide open - see KY, etc.. Coach K is a master mind but he wont have his hands on the rock!

    WVU won the Big East tourney by a combined 7 points... and they didn't turn up anything.  Big East was the real conference that had a down year (I should know as a Cuse fan)

    I had my largest post-season bet on that WVU/Kentucky game... I feel like I know what I'm getting from them.

    BOL either way.
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    This game can be viewed as toss up, with WV - BIG East champs coming to battle. I watched the Big East torny as surely you did the same, and this team can turn it up whenever necassary blowing the game wide open - see KY, etc.. Coach K is a master mind but he wont have his hands on the rock!

    WVU won the Big East tourney by a combined 7 points... and they didn't turn up anything.  Big East was the real conference that had a down year (I should know as a Cuse fan)

    I had my largest post-season bet on that WVU/Kentucky game... I feel like I know what I'm getting from them.

    BOL either way.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2010 - 9:35 PM ET #22

    Quote Originally Posted by special__k:


    WVU won the Big East tourney by a combined 7 points... and they didn't turn up anything.  Big East was the real conference that had a down year (I should know as a Cuse fan)

    I had my largest post-season bet on that WVU/Kentucky game... I feel like I know what I'm getting from them.

    BOL either way.
    I know inside you're right and it makes me feel . Really like your play. Had those D bags yesterday as well.
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    WVU won the Big East tourney by a combined 7 points... and they didn't turn up anything.  Big East was the real conference that had a down year (I should know as a Cuse fan)

    I had my largest post-season bet on that WVU/Kentucky game... I feel like I know what I'm getting from them.

    BOL either way.
    I know inside you're right and it makes me feel . Really like your play. Had those D bags yesterday as well.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2010 - 9:49 PM ET #23

    no disrespect my mon, Gtown fan here!

    Even remember when PUKE came to play & Gtown took it to em, my thoughts are the same as yours just think this HUGGINS team is real.

    GL to you.
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    no disrespect my mon, Gtown fan here!

    Even remember when PUKE came to play & Gtown took it to em, my thoughts are the same as yours just think this HUGGINS team is real.

    GL to you.
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2010 - 10:35 PM ET #24

    Quote Originally Posted by YaMon:

    now at +3, keep on hitting PUKE gents.

    Lets take a peak @ Dukes year, 33-5 #1 in a very down ACC league. Sure they have the BIG 3, but Zoubek will get into foul trouble battling the boards with this WV squad. WV is quicker, more athletic and has more heart. I picked in my bracket PUKE to lose to Baylor, but my money was on 'em.   THREE SACKS  

    This game can be viewed as toss up, with WV - BIG East champs coming to battle. I watched the Big East torny as surely you did the same, and this team can turn it up whenever necassary blowing the game wide open - see KY, etc.. Coach K is a master mind but he wont have his hands on the rock!

    Remember BUTLER is the best player on either team.



    WV +3 is a bargain (extra day of rest too)

     

    You're correct sir,the public is always late to the party.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YaMon:

    now at +3, keep on hitting PUKE gents.

    Lets take a peak @ Dukes year, 33-5 #1 in a very down ACC league. Sure they have the BIG 3, but Zoubek will get into foul trouble battling the boards with this WV squad. WV is quicker, more athletic and has more heart. I picked in my bracket PUKE to lose to Baylor, but my money was on 'em.   THREE SACKS  

    This game can be viewed as toss up, with WV - BIG East champs coming to battle. I watched the Big East torny as surely you did the same, and this team can turn it up whenever necassary blowing the game wide open - see KY, etc.. Coach K is a master mind but he wont have his hands on the rock!

    Remember BUTLER is the best player on either team.



    WV +3 is a bargain (extra day of rest too)

     

    You're correct sir,the public is always late to the party.

     
     
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    Posted: Mar. 29, 2010 - 10:37 PM ET #25

    hey K, are you worried about the Jim Rome Karma, cause Huggy Bear was on Rome today! 
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    hey K, are you worried about the Jim Rome Karma, cause Huggy Bear was on Rome today! 
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