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    Sloop 2011 Finale (76-56-4 ytd)

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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 12:02 AM ET #1

    Well...yesterday I was able to stay back at 60% for about 3 hours before becoming the hottest garbage on Covers.com. Guess it happens. Looking to ditch 2011 with a bang.

    5-10 yesterday in college and 7-4 in NBA. 2-6 on the original card. But both of those wins were my 2 unit plays, so at least that's a positive. Tried to do some damage control by chasing after the early games, but we all know what that typically leads to: juicing, or losing.

    Been looking at Saturday for some time now. Lots of great stuff.

    Some quick, half-assed leans on sides are below. going to try to find about 6 or 7 for tomorrow by noon, and will probably include a couple totals:

    Butler
    Spartans
    Wright St
    Detroit
    Ok State
    SMU
    Arkansas St
    green bay
    Saint Mary's
    washington st
    utah
    usc under
    tulsa

    gL all write-ups to come
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    Well...yesterday I was able to stay back at 60% for about 3 hours before becoming the hottest garbage on Covers.com. Guess it happens. Looking to ditch 2011 with a bang.

    5-10 yesterday in college and 7-4 in NBA. 2-6 on the original card. But both of those wins were my 2 unit plays, so at least that's a positive. Tried to do some damage control by chasing after the early games, but we all know what that typically leads to: juicing, or losing.

    Been looking at Saturday for some time now. Lots of great stuff.

    Some quick, half-assed leans on sides are below. going to try to find about 6 or 7 for tomorrow by noon, and will probably include a couple totals:

    Butler
    Spartans
    Wright St
    Detroit
    Ok State
    SMU
    Arkansas St
    green bay
    Saint Mary's
    washington st
    utah
    usc under
    tulsa

    gL all write-ups to come
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 12:27 AM ET #2

    i blame the new avatar for my bad luck
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 1:45 AM ET #3

    Arkansas St. -3.5
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 1:46 AM ET #4

    GL tomorrow, sloop

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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 2:17 AM ET #5

    UL Monroe (1-13) is a joke. They've beaten one team this entire year: #339 in the country Nichols State. And then they lost to them two weeks later at home. They are horribly inefficient and sloppy on both sides of the ball, and I can literally find no compliment whatsoever to give them. They lost to unranked "Harding" at home for christ's sake....

    I guess the best compliment I could give UL Monroe is that they're in the top half of the country at 3pt%, and they don't have an AWFUL strength of schedule (#169 in country). But even though they're "relatively" efficient at 3s, they dont even really rely on them, as they amount to less than 30% of their total point distribution. And what good is strength of schedule when you can't do anything with it?

    Of the 13 games against D-1 opponents that Monroe has played this year, only 3 of them have NOT been double digit losses. And the two that were close were against #277 Southeastern Louisiana (?) and #247 Western Kentucky (3 and 4 point losses). That Western Kentucky game was the "conference home opener" and it was just played on Thursday, and resulted in a 76-71 overtime loss.

    Monroe hasn't even had a game go into overtime since 2009. They are so, so awful. Preseason poll ranked them to finish 12th (dead last) in the Sun Belt and #314 in all of NCAA, and I'm sure that a current poll would merit the same results.

    I don't know how they can be expected to pick their shit up and get it together against a half decent Arkansas St. team.

    What about Arkansas St? They're pretty decent for a Sun Belt team. They were projected to finish 4th in the conference, behind very respectable teams such as Denver, Middle Tenn St, and FAU. They're 212 in the country right now, but this is likely undervaluing them.

    Arkansas St. is 6-8, but they've played the #53 overall strength of schedule, and 6 of those losses come to such top 100 teams as Murray St, Missouri St., Ohio, Louisville, Saint Louis, Kent State. 4 of those 6 were played at the opponents arena, so they are quite familiar with road games. I'm pretty sure that after you play away games at those arenas, you won't get the butterflies to take on "UL-Monroe" at their home court.

    The other two losses that Ark St had was a 3 point loss @ #123 Lamar and a 4 point OT loss @ #189 Austin Peay. Again, respectable.

    In terms of stats, there's no much to look at. I said that UL Monroe is not horrible at 3pt%, but still not really worried about it. Arkansas St. has not been efficient at defending 3s, but that's definitely been inflated by the fact that theyve played very good 3 pt shooting teams, i.e. #5 in the country at draining 3s Murray State and #6 in the country St. Louis.

    Monroe has the #335 defense in the country. They don't force turnovers, can't defend the long ball, cant rebound, block, or steal. Arkansas St is not incredible on offense, but they're certainly good enough. and theyre #53 in the country at 3pt%, and like i said, Monroe is horrible at defending the 3 (#291 in the coutnry at efficiency at defending 3pt%). I really don't think Arkansas St will need to rely on 3 pointers though, but it's a fun fact i suppose. Also, Arkansas St is actually pretty dang good at defense.

    Dont see how you can't love Arkansas St. -3.5


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    UL Monroe (1-13) is a joke. They've beaten one team this entire year: #339 in the country Nichols State. And then they lost to them two weeks later at home. They are horribly inefficient and sloppy on both sides of the ball, and I can literally find no compliment whatsoever to give them. They lost to unranked "Harding" at home for christ's sake....

    I guess the best compliment I could give UL Monroe is that they're in the top half of the country at 3pt%, and they don't have an AWFUL strength of schedule (#169 in country). But even though they're "relatively" efficient at 3s, they dont even really rely on them, as they amount to less than 30% of their total point distribution. And what good is strength of schedule when you can't do anything with it?

    Of the 13 games against D-1 opponents that Monroe has played this year, only 3 of them have NOT been double digit losses. And the two that were close were against #277 Southeastern Louisiana (?) and #247 Western Kentucky (3 and 4 point losses). That Western Kentucky game was the "conference home opener" and it was just played on Thursday, and resulted in a 76-71 overtime loss.

    Monroe hasn't even had a game go into overtime since 2009. They are so, so awful. Preseason poll ranked them to finish 12th (dead last) in the Sun Belt and #314 in all of NCAA, and I'm sure that a current poll would merit the same results.

    I don't know how they can be expected to pick their shit up and get it together against a half decent Arkansas St. team.

    What about Arkansas St? They're pretty decent for a Sun Belt team. They were projected to finish 4th in the conference, behind very respectable teams such as Denver, Middle Tenn St, and FAU. They're 212 in the country right now, but this is likely undervaluing them.

    Arkansas St. is 6-8, but they've played the #53 overall strength of schedule, and 6 of those losses come to such top 100 teams as Murray St, Missouri St., Ohio, Louisville, Saint Louis, Kent State. 4 of those 6 were played at the opponents arena, so they are quite familiar with road games. I'm pretty sure that after you play away games at those arenas, you won't get the butterflies to take on "UL-Monroe" at their home court.

    The other two losses that Ark St had was a 3 point loss @ #123 Lamar and a 4 point OT loss @ #189 Austin Peay. Again, respectable.

    In terms of stats, there's no much to look at. I said that UL Monroe is not horrible at 3pt%, but still not really worried about it. Arkansas St. has not been efficient at defending 3s, but that's definitely been inflated by the fact that theyve played very good 3 pt shooting teams, i.e. #5 in the country at draining 3s Murray State and #6 in the country St. Louis.

    Monroe has the #335 defense in the country. They don't force turnovers, can't defend the long ball, cant rebound, block, or steal. Arkansas St is not incredible on offense, but they're certainly good enough. and theyre #53 in the country at 3pt%, and like i said, Monroe is horrible at defending the 3 (#291 in the coutnry at efficiency at defending 3pt%). I really don't think Arkansas St will need to rely on 3 pointers though, but it's a fun fact i suppose. Also, Arkansas St is actually pretty dang good at defense.

    Dont see how you can't love Arkansas St. -3.5


     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 2:28 AM ET #7

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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 2:35 AM ET #8

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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 3:01 AM ET #9

    Oklahoma St. -1
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 3:10 AM ET #10

    Are all of your picks equal value?
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 11:59 AM ET #11

    Quote Originally Posted by Candyman2011:

    Are all of your picks equal value?

    2 units on arkansas st
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    2 units on arkansas st
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 12:00 PM ET #12

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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 12:05 PM ET #13

    You might want to reduce the # of plays to the best ones...hard to hit that many consistently-GL
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 12:29 PM ET #14

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyasaxa:

    You might want to reduce the # of plays to the best ones...hard to hit that many consistently-GL


    i realize this, but often times do it anyway

    probably won't have many more adds today, if any.
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    You might want to reduce the # of plays to the best ones...hard to hit that many consistently-GL


    i realize this, but often times do it anyway

    probably won't have many more adds today, if any.
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 12:30 PM ET #15

    oklahoma state should win this game. tech's offense is just as bad as it's always been.
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 12:45 PM ET #16

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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 12:53 PM ET #17

    Have you been hitting your top plays at a high % for the season ?
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 1:08 PM ET #18

    nice line on Butler today. their 7-7 record is quite misleading, being that they've played the #29 SoS this year. they should win the Horizon without a problem now that Detroit has crashed and burned, and we'll start to see them improving in these next two weeks. It's not easy to win at the Fieldhouse, and Butler should win today in a boring, slow, grinding game heavily stressed on defense
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    nice line on Butler today. their 7-7 record is quite misleading, being that they've played the #29 SoS this year. they should win the Horizon without a problem now that Detroit has crashed and burned, and we'll start to see them improving in these next two weeks. It's not easy to win at the Fieldhouse, and Butler should win today in a boring, slow, grinding game heavily stressed on defense
     
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    tulsa is another buy low for a team that's played a difficult SoS. Not as strong as Butler's, but still strong. Tulsa should finish 2nd in the C-USA and i like them to win today. they will punish TCU on the glass and in the paint and TCU will have a lot of trouble defending their perimeter shooting. if tulsa can limit the turnovers they sohuld win. TCU has had a soft schedule thus far, giving the nod to tulsa here
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    tulsa is another buy low for a team that's played a difficult SoS. Not as strong as Butler's, but still strong. Tulsa should finish 2nd in the C-USA and i like them to win today. they will punish TCU on the glass and in the paint and TCU will have a lot of trouble defending their perimeter shooting. if tulsa can limit the turnovers they sohuld win. TCU has had a soft schedule thus far, giving the nod to tulsa here
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 1:53 PM ET #20

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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 1:58 PM ET #21

    strong leans on maryland and idaho, but no play on either
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    wow.

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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 2:14 PM ET #23

    Gl sloop.....always tailing your picks bro
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 2:17 PM ET #24

    thanks, but tread lightly. i'm in a rut right now.

    i really like tulsa and arkansas state today. so hopefully i can bounce back with those. just caught a tough break at the end of the ok state and austin peay games...
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    thanks, but tread lightly. i'm in a rut right now.

    i really like tulsa and arkansas state today. so hopefully i can bounce back with those. just caught a tough break at the end of the ok state and austin peay games...
     
     
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    Posted: Dec. 31, 2011 - 2:52 PM ET #25

    utah state +7 1h

    This isn't the same 30-4 utah state team as last year, as they've graduated most of their team, but they've brought in some really talented transfers this year and have held their own against top competition such as wichita st, kent state, weber, & BYU and they should still win the WAC. it seems this miss st. team is finally learning how to play together, they have so much talent, but im nowhere near convinced they can pull off a win of this margin over utah state. miss st. is still a mediocre SEC team in my eyes and has played their fair share of cupcakes this year. they are so so physical and althetic but they lack depth and utah state is a solid team defensively and is one of the slowest teams in the country. catching 7 points is value for a 1h here with such a slow tempo and a great defense, miss state was only able to put up 52 points against baylor. baylor has a better defense overall, as they force more turnovers and are so scrappy, utah st. doesnt force as nearly as many turnovers or steal or block but they are still so effective at keeping fg% and pt% down, im goign to take my chances here because i honestly believe they have a chance to win this straight up, call me crazy but 
    utah state +7 1h & +12.5 1/2 unit on each
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    utah state +7 1h

    This isn't the same 30-4 utah state team as last year, as they've graduated most of their team, but they've brought in some really talented transfers this year and have held their own against top competition such as wichita st, kent state, weber, & BYU and they should still win the WAC. it seems this miss st. team is finally learning how to play together, they have so much talent, but im nowhere near convinced they can pull off a win of this margin over utah state. miss st. is still a mediocre SEC team in my eyes and has played their fair share of cupcakes this year. they are so so physical and althetic but they lack depth and utah state is a solid team defensively and is one of the slowest teams in the country. catching 7 points is value for a 1h here with such a slow tempo and a great defense, miss state was only able to put up 52 points against baylor. baylor has a better defense overall, as they force more turnovers and are so scrappy, utah st. doesnt force as nearly as many turnovers or steal or block but they are still so effective at keeping fg% and pt% down, im goign to take my chances here because i honestly believe they have a chance to win this straight up, call me crazy but 
    utah state +7 1h & +12.5 1/2 unit on each
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