*Disclaimer: I rarely bet over 1-unit on any wager, thus
making a 2-unit wager a huge deal. I rarely bet on games involving
ranked teams or that would be seen on ESPN (I can discuss this further
if you like). I don't wager on games every night and I rarely play
more than one game a night (not because it is some rule I use, its just
that there are rarely nights that two games meet my criteria to wager
on). Just because I have a lot to say about a game, doesn't mean I am
guaranteeing a win or am ultra-confident. On the contrary, sometimes I
don't feel very confident about a play, but if it meets my criteria for
a wager, I place it. Please don't come into this thread talking about
"public play" this or "line movement" that. My analysis is based
purely on the matchups and various other angles, systems, and analysis
that I use.
Studying a bunch of boxing and mma right now and have a possible few more plays for college basketball so this write-up with be shorter than normal. Tonight, I am going with Oregon St. +7 over the Huskers tonight.
Now, I must preface this pick with saying that when I run this season's numbers, the line should actually be +8 and the probably of Oregon St. covering the +7 spread is actually 46%. What the numbers don't figure in are two key factors.
First, Nebraska is one of the most beat up teams in the country at the moment. Forward Quincy Cole is doubtful with a knee sprain (he tried to practice yesterday and couldn't). Guards Brandon Richardson, Eshaunte Jones, Sek Henry, and Lance Jeter are all questionable with a variety of injuries. All five of these players are either starters or guys who have averaged 10+ minutes per game this season. (Richardson, Henry, Jeter started two games back and the other two played 12:00+). Now Jones is going to play with planter fasciitis and then get a cortisone shot that will sideline him for 5 days. So even the guards that are banged up that WILL play are not going to be anywhere near 100%
Next, is the experience factor. When these two teams faced each other at Oregon St. last year, the beavers won by one. The beavers return 4 starters and 4 reserves from that team, Nebraska brings back 3 players that combined for 6 points (and two of them are banged up).
I also love the fact that Oregon St. runs a 1-3-1 defense that is tough to prepare for if you haven't faced it (and Nebraska has played only two inferior teams that just show a little 2-3 zone) and they have been limited in practice with all their injuries.
Oregon St. also has a height advantage on the inside and have wings that go 6'7" and close on shooters very fast. Oregon St. is holding its opponents to 38% from the field and 28% from the 3-point stripe. Oregon St. also shoots free throws better (71% to a very poor 65% for Nebraska).
Another small angle I use at this time a year is finals. Oregon St. is already done with their finals and Nebraska has finals week coming up. I always like to side with the team that doesn't have that to worry about. Lastly, even the quotes from the Nebraska players talk about what a tough game this will be especially with the injuries. I believe they will be prophetic and that this will be a low-scoring close ball game that I believe Oregon St. can win straight up on the strength of their defense and free throw shooting.
Please understand that when you back a team that runs a zone defense exclusively, you run the risk that the other team lights it up from 3-point land and then you have to throw out all the systems and angles as the team your backing has to play from behind. I don't believe that will happen today, in fact, I am betting it won't!
This play is not for the faint of heart, backing a Pac-10 team on the road is risky business and I understand why others would want to stay away or go with the Huskers. This game hits too many of my angles and systems to pass it up. Good luck with whatever you choose, feel free to discuss this game no matter side you like
Oregon St +7 1-unit on matchbook
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To remove first post, remove entire topic.
YTD: 13-7 (2-0 2-unit plays) +8.5 units
*Disclaimer: I rarely bet over 1-unit on any wager, thus
making a 2-unit wager a huge deal. I rarely bet on games involving
ranked teams or that would be seen on ESPN (I can discuss this further
if you like). I don't wager on games every night and I rarely play
more than one game a night (not because it is some rule I use, its just
that there are rarely nights that two games meet my criteria to wager
on). Just because I have a lot to say about a game, doesn't mean I am
guaranteeing a win or am ultra-confident. On the contrary, sometimes I
don't feel very confident about a play, but if it meets my criteria for
a wager, I place it. Please don't come into this thread talking about
"public play" this or "line movement" that. My analysis is based
purely on the matchups and various other angles, systems, and analysis
that I use.
Studying a bunch of boxing and mma right now and have a possible few more plays for college basketball so this write-up with be shorter than normal. Tonight, I am going with Oregon St. +7 over the Huskers tonight.
Now, I must preface this pick with saying that when I run this season's numbers, the line should actually be +8 and the probably of Oregon St. covering the +7 spread is actually 46%. What the numbers don't figure in are two key factors.
First, Nebraska is one of the most beat up teams in the country at the moment. Forward Quincy Cole is doubtful with a knee sprain (he tried to practice yesterday and couldn't). Guards Brandon Richardson, Eshaunte Jones, Sek Henry, and Lance Jeter are all questionable with a variety of injuries. All five of these players are either starters or guys who have averaged 10+ minutes per game this season. (Richardson, Henry, Jeter started two games back and the other two played 12:00+). Now Jones is going to play with planter fasciitis and then get a cortisone shot that will sideline him for 5 days. So even the guards that are banged up that WILL play are not going to be anywhere near 100%
Next, is the experience factor. When these two teams faced each other at Oregon St. last year, the beavers won by one. The beavers return 4 starters and 4 reserves from that team, Nebraska brings back 3 players that combined for 6 points (and two of them are banged up).
I also love the fact that Oregon St. runs a 1-3-1 defense that is tough to prepare for if you haven't faced it (and Nebraska has played only two inferior teams that just show a little 2-3 zone) and they have been limited in practice with all their injuries.
Oregon St. also has a height advantage on the inside and have wings that go 6'7" and close on shooters very fast. Oregon St. is holding its opponents to 38% from the field and 28% from the 3-point stripe. Oregon St. also shoots free throws better (71% to a very poor 65% for Nebraska).
Another small angle I use at this time a year is finals. Oregon St. is already done with their finals and Nebraska has finals week coming up. I always like to side with the team that doesn't have that to worry about. Lastly, even the quotes from the Nebraska players talk about what a tough game this will be especially with the injuries. I believe they will be prophetic and that this will be a low-scoring close ball game that I believe Oregon St. can win straight up on the strength of their defense and free throw shooting.
Please understand that when you back a team that runs a zone defense exclusively, you run the risk that the other team lights it up from 3-point land and then you have to throw out all the systems and angles as the team your backing has to play from behind. I don't believe that will happen today, in fact, I am betting it won't!
This play is not for the faint of heart, backing a Pac-10 team on the road is risky business and I understand why others would want to stay away or go with the Huskers. This game hits too many of my angles and systems to pass it up. Good luck with whatever you choose, feel free to discuss this game no matter side you like
*Disclaimer: I rarely bet over 1-unit on any wager, thus
making a 2-unit wager a huge deal. I rarely bet on games involving
ranked teams or that would be seen on ESPN (I can discuss this further
if you like). I don't wager on games every night and I rarely play
more than one game a night (not because it is some rule I use, its just
that there are rarely nights that two games meet my criteria to wager
on). Just because I have a lot to say about a game, doesn't mean I am
guaranteeing a win or am ultra-confident. On the contrary, sometimes I
don't feel very confident about a play, but if it meets my criteria for
a wager, I place it. Please don't come into this thread talking about
"public play" this or "line movement" that. My analysis is based
purely on the matchups and various other angles, systems, and analysis
that I use.
Studying a bunch of boxing and mma right now and have a possible few more plays for college basketball so this write-up with be shorter than normal. Tonight, I am going with Oregon St. +7 over the Huskers tonight.
Now, I must preface this pick with saying that when I run this season's numbers, the line should actually be +8 and the probably of Oregon St. covering the +7 spread is actually 46%. What the numbers don't figure in are two key factors.
First, Nebraska is one of the most beat up teams in the country at the moment. Forward Quincy Cole is doubtful with a knee sprain (he tried to practice yesterday and couldn't). Guards Brandon Richardson, Eshaunte Jones, Sek Henry, and Lance Jeter are all questionable with a variety of injuries. All five of these players are either starters or guys who have averaged 10+ minutes per game this season. (Richardson, Henry, Jeter started two games back and the other two played 12:00+). Now Jones is going to play with planter fasciitis and then get a cortisone shot that will sideline him for 5 days. So even the guards that are banged up that WILL play are not going to be anywhere near 100%
Next, is the experience factor. When these two teams faced each other at Oregon St. last year, the beavers won by one. The beavers return 4 starters and 4 reserves from that team, Nebraska brings back 3 players that combined for 6 points (and two of them are banged up).
I also love the fact that Oregon St. runs a 1-3-1 defense that is tough to prepare for if you haven't faced it (and Nebraska has played only two inferior teams that just show a little 2-3 zone) and they have been limited in practice with all their injuries.
Oregon St. also has a height advantage on the inside and have wings that go 6'7" and close on shooters very fast. Oregon St. is holding its opponents to 38% from the field and 28% from the 3-point stripe. Oregon St. also shoots free throws better (71% to a very poor 65% for Nebraska).
Another small angle I use at this time a year is finals. Oregon St. is already done with their finals and Nebraska has finals week coming up. I always like to side with the team that doesn't have that to worry about. Lastly, even the quotes from the Nebraska players talk about what a tough game this will be especially with the injuries. I believe they will be prophetic and that this will be a low-scoring close ball game that I believe Oregon St. can win straight up on the strength of their defense and free throw shooting.
Please understand that when you back a team that runs a zone defense exclusively, you run the risk that the other team lights it up from 3-point land and then you have to throw out all the systems and angles as the team your backing has to play from behind. I don't believe that will happen today, in fact, I am betting it won't!
This play is not for the faint of heart, backing a Pac-10 team on the road is risky business and I understand why others would want to stay away or go with the Huskers. This game hits too many of my angles and systems to pass it up. Good luck with whatever you choose, feel free to discuss this game no matter side you like
Oregon St +7 1-unit on matchbook
Glad I'm on the same side !! grab that green !!
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Quote Originally Posted by KineProfessor:
YTD: 13-7 (2-0 2-unit plays) +8.5 units
*Disclaimer: I rarely bet over 1-unit on any wager, thus
making a 2-unit wager a huge deal. I rarely bet on games involving
ranked teams or that would be seen on ESPN (I can discuss this further
if you like). I don't wager on games every night and I rarely play
more than one game a night (not because it is some rule I use, its just
that there are rarely nights that two games meet my criteria to wager
on). Just because I have a lot to say about a game, doesn't mean I am
guaranteeing a win or am ultra-confident. On the contrary, sometimes I
don't feel very confident about a play, but if it meets my criteria for
a wager, I place it. Please don't come into this thread talking about
"public play" this or "line movement" that. My analysis is based
purely on the matchups and various other angles, systems, and analysis
that I use.
Studying a bunch of boxing and mma right now and have a possible few more plays for college basketball so this write-up with be shorter than normal. Tonight, I am going with Oregon St. +7 over the Huskers tonight.
Now, I must preface this pick with saying that when I run this season's numbers, the line should actually be +8 and the probably of Oregon St. covering the +7 spread is actually 46%. What the numbers don't figure in are two key factors.
First, Nebraska is one of the most beat up teams in the country at the moment. Forward Quincy Cole is doubtful with a knee sprain (he tried to practice yesterday and couldn't). Guards Brandon Richardson, Eshaunte Jones, Sek Henry, and Lance Jeter are all questionable with a variety of injuries. All five of these players are either starters or guys who have averaged 10+ minutes per game this season. (Richardson, Henry, Jeter started two games back and the other two played 12:00+). Now Jones is going to play with planter fasciitis and then get a cortisone shot that will sideline him for 5 days. So even the guards that are banged up that WILL play are not going to be anywhere near 100%
Next, is the experience factor. When these two teams faced each other at Oregon St. last year, the beavers won by one. The beavers return 4 starters and 4 reserves from that team, Nebraska brings back 3 players that combined for 6 points (and two of them are banged up).
I also love the fact that Oregon St. runs a 1-3-1 defense that is tough to prepare for if you haven't faced it (and Nebraska has played only two inferior teams that just show a little 2-3 zone) and they have been limited in practice with all their injuries.
Oregon St. also has a height advantage on the inside and have wings that go 6'7" and close on shooters very fast. Oregon St. is holding its opponents to 38% from the field and 28% from the 3-point stripe. Oregon St. also shoots free throws better (71% to a very poor 65% for Nebraska).
Another small angle I use at this time a year is finals. Oregon St. is already done with their finals and Nebraska has finals week coming up. I always like to side with the team that doesn't have that to worry about. Lastly, even the quotes from the Nebraska players talk about what a tough game this will be especially with the injuries. I believe they will be prophetic and that this will be a low-scoring close ball game that I believe Oregon St. can win straight up on the strength of their defense and free throw shooting.
Please understand that when you back a team that runs a zone defense exclusively, you run the risk that the other team lights it up from 3-point land and then you have to throw out all the systems and angles as the team your backing has to play from behind. I don't believe that will happen today, in fact, I am betting it won't!
This play is not for the faint of heart, backing a Pac-10 team on the road is risky business and I understand why others would want to stay away or go with the Huskers. This game hits too many of my angles and systems to pass it up. Good luck with whatever you choose, feel free to discuss this game no matter side you like
Absolutely, feels like it will be anyone's game inside of 4:00. It should be a low scoring game and I expect Nebraska to play even slower because they are short-handed, and I expect long possessions as Nebraska works the ball around the Beaver's zone and the Beaver's will have to work hard against the Huskers tough man-to-man defense. Hard to believe that either team will blow the other one out. My only fear is that the Pac-10 has come out with some stinkers over the last week or so. On Matchbook, I wasn't crazy about the moneyline number which is why I just bet the spread, but a St. 5 point win wouldn't surprise me in the least.
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Quote Originally Posted by Jaysvdubwhat:
Do you think oregon st can win this game?
Absolutely, feels like it will be anyone's game inside of 4:00. It should be a low scoring game and I expect Nebraska to play even slower because they are short-handed, and I expect long possessions as Nebraska works the ball around the Beaver's zone and the Beaver's will have to work hard against the Huskers tough man-to-man defense. Hard to believe that either team will blow the other one out. My only fear is that the Pac-10 has come out with some stinkers over the last week or so. On Matchbook, I wasn't crazy about the moneyline number which is why I just bet the spread, but a St. 5 point win wouldn't surprise me in the least.
Fantastic write-up. This is what EVERYONE should be doing, it should be what this board is about!
Again, thanks kine. You are a valuable member of this board. For the rest of you who go-
Kentucky - 20
GL
I whole-hearted agree. This forum shouldn't be a glorified record tracking forum, we should discuss the reasons why we like a game. It is all about finding an edge in the matchups, who cares if someone just says they are betting something? We are all in this together!
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Quote Originally Posted by bandit1010:
Fantastic write-up. This is what EVERYONE should be doing, it should be what this board is about!
Again, thanks kine. You are a valuable member of this board. For the rest of you who go-
Kentucky - 20
GL
I whole-hearted agree. This forum shouldn't be a glorified record tracking forum, we should discuss the reasons why we like a game. It is all about finding an edge in the matchups, who cares if someone just says they are betting something? We are all in this together!
Gonna be devils advocate here. Richardson and Hankins-cole are both upgraded to probable and will play for nebraska. Beavers thrive at home and can lose to anyone on the road. And one stat that should concern beav backers is 3pt % beavs 27% Nebraska 44%.
GL all
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Gonna be devils advocate here. Richardson and Hankins-cole are both upgraded to probable and will play for nebraska. Beavers thrive at home and can lose to anyone on the road. And one stat that should concern beav backers is 3pt % beavs 27% Nebraska 44%.
I am with u on oregon state. Do you have any other strong plays?
Excellent. I have been spending a lot of time on hedging my Heisman bets and studying boxing and mma tonight. If I were to make any more plays it would be TCU +12.5 (I don't care about line movement ever, there is value in that many points and the players themselves from WS say they expect and WANT to play in a close game). I also like Sac St. getting 16.5 (mainly because I really like their head coach and I think they will have fixed the problems they have had on offense, please note that this is a BIG assumption, and I don't think that my boy Sulton Toles-Bay has a third straight crappy game). I am not playing either of these two as of yet, but I am looking into them to see if we have an edge. Good luck my friend, oh yeah I will be on Paulie Malignaggi tonight on the HBO fight at +money!
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Quote Originally Posted by GoGetEm92:
I am with u on oregon state. Do you have any other strong plays?
Excellent. I have been spending a lot of time on hedging my Heisman bets and studying boxing and mma tonight. If I were to make any more plays it would be TCU +12.5 (I don't care about line movement ever, there is value in that many points and the players themselves from WS say they expect and WANT to play in a close game). I also like Sac St. getting 16.5 (mainly because I really like their head coach and I think they will have fixed the problems they have had on offense, please note that this is a BIG assumption, and I don't think that my boy Sulton Toles-Bay has a third straight crappy game). I am not playing either of these two as of yet, but I am looking into them to see if we have an edge. Good luck my friend, oh yeah I will be on Paulie Malignaggi tonight on the HBO fight at +money!
Gonna be devils advocate here. Richardson and Hankins-cole are both upgraded to probable and will play for nebraska. Beavers thrive at home and can lose to anyone on the road. And one stat that should concern beav backers is 3pt % beavs 27% Nebraska 44%.
GL all
LOVE IT, thank you Vegas, I appreciate you coming from the other side. I worry about those issues as well, here are my reasons why it didn't stop me from playing the game.
Nebraska has played teams that run exclusively man-to-man, they are very good at running their sets and getting open 3's against man, it is completely different going against a 1-3-1 zone with giant, tall wings. Also, Beavers are holding their opponents to 28% threes so something has got to give and this wouldn't be the first time that they held a team that normally shoots very well from 3 point land to a number much lower than usual.
Also, I didn't mean for my post to mislead, only their center Coles looks to be out, all of the other guards should play, but each of them (especially Jones won't be near 100%). I would be shocked if Coles plays very much at all. His knee was too swollen and sore to go full-speed as late as last night. I think he either scratches or tries to go and comes out early (I have a lot of experience working with athletes with knee issues). Because of Oregon St's size I am not surprised they are hoping to press Coles into action.
Thanks for the opposing view, I certainly am not ultra-confident but I love getting 7 points in a game that I feel will come down to the buzzer.
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Quote Originally Posted by VegasMaxx:
Gonna be devils advocate here. Richardson and Hankins-cole are both upgraded to probable and will play for nebraska. Beavers thrive at home and can lose to anyone on the road. And one stat that should concern beav backers is 3pt % beavs 27% Nebraska 44%.
GL all
LOVE IT, thank you Vegas, I appreciate you coming from the other side. I worry about those issues as well, here are my reasons why it didn't stop me from playing the game.
Nebraska has played teams that run exclusively man-to-man, they are very good at running their sets and getting open 3's against man, it is completely different going against a 1-3-1 zone with giant, tall wings. Also, Beavers are holding their opponents to 28% threes so something has got to give and this wouldn't be the first time that they held a team that normally shoots very well from 3 point land to a number much lower than usual.
Also, I didn't mean for my post to mislead, only their center Coles looks to be out, all of the other guards should play, but each of them (especially Jones won't be near 100%). I would be shocked if Coles plays very much at all. His knee was too swollen and sore to go full-speed as late as last night. I think he either scratches or tries to go and comes out early (I have a lot of experience working with athletes with knee issues). Because of Oregon St's size I am not surprised they are hoping to press Coles into action.
Thanks for the opposing view, I certainly am not ultra-confident but I love getting 7 points in a game that I feel will come down to the buzzer.
Line just went from +6.5 to +7.5 at my book. Is there anything I should be concerned about?
Still +7 at matchbook, I don't use line movement to decide my plays, but I will be pissed if I didn't get the best possible line. As the night gets later, chasers are notorious for selecting favorites so the line movement is to be expected IMO.
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Quote Originally Posted by coverthis:
Line just went from +6.5 to +7.5 at my book. Is there anything I should be concerned about?
Still +7 at matchbook, I don't use line movement to decide my plays, but I will be pissed if I didn't get the best possible line. As the night gets later, chasers are notorious for selecting favorites so the line movement is to be expected IMO.
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