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    WISCONSIN vs. NOTRE DAME: Of all the games I've capped in the past year, this was the toughest.

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    Posted: Mar. 25, 2016 - 2:13 AM ET #1

    2016 record (all sports): 8-1

    8 posted winners in a row.

    I thought about this game all week. Initially my gut, after watching both games Sunday, said to take Notre Dame. After capping it aggressively for two days, there were very strong signs to pick Wisconsin. Finally after a final night of capping, it's a close call but I am taking Notre Dame and I'm not looking back.

    There are very strong arguments for both teams here, hence the low line.

    But the line is what really drove me towards this game in the first place. 

    Like the Seton Hall vs. Gonzaga game, I do not want to give out more than a single point in this tournament if I am on a favorite. Wisconsin/Xavier, ND/SFA, and especially Northern Iowa/A&M drove me to a pure pick, that is a game without a line or a line of -1/+1 which cannot cost a bettor money on the spread if the team you pick wins outright.

    Now for this game. I could write for days on this but I'll offer my strongest tipping points for the bettor.


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    2016 record (all sports): 8-1

    8 posted winners in a row.

    I thought about this game all week. Initially my gut, after watching both games Sunday, said to take Notre Dame. After capping it aggressively for two days, there were very strong signs to pick Wisconsin. Finally after a final night of capping, it's a close call but I am taking Notre Dame and I'm not looking back.

    There are very strong arguments for both teams here, hence the low line.

    But the line is what really drove me towards this game in the first place. 

    Like the Seton Hall vs. Gonzaga game, I do not want to give out more than a single point in this tournament if I am on a favorite. Wisconsin/Xavier, ND/SFA, and especially Northern Iowa/A&M drove me to a pure pick, that is a game without a line or a line of -1/+1 which cannot cost a bettor money on the spread if the team you pick wins outright.

    Now for this game. I could write for days on this but I'll offer my strongest tipping points for the bettor.


     
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    A. Donald Rumsfeld, "Known Knowns" and "Unknown Unknowns"

    Remember my quote from the Donald in a previous thread? It dealt with the above. 

    We have Known Knowns and Unknown Unknowns. With Gonzaga we took a Known Known and we won.

    Notre Dame is a Known Known. With regard to what? Offensive performance.

    Folks, the team can flat out put the ball in the basket:

    VS. Stephen F Austin? 56% FG; 35% 3-pters; 75% FT.
    VS. Michigan? 58% FG; 53% 3-pters; 80% FT

    Both Austin and Michigan had sizable leads on Notre Dame. With that kind of shooting it doesn't matter. You will get back in the game. 

    How good has it been individually?

    Senior Zach Auguste is 12-14 over two games while swallowing up 25 rebounds. Now who on Wisconsin can even remotely compare to that?

    V.J Beachem 13-20 over two games with a perfect 7-7 last game.

    Notre Dame is the 9th best team in the nation in adjusted offensive efficiency.

    Before tonight every single team above them in the offensive efficiency ratings was still in the tournament except for Michigan State, a team that was blindsided by Middle Tennessee State (and that team beat MSU with amazing offense). Duke was just knocked out tonight but that is expected as the brackets start to force teams out.

    I want a team that can score. I want a team that I can depend on in this area. This is a KNOWN KNOWN.

    Now would you like a another Known Known?

    Wisconsin cannot score and they cannot shoot despite being in the Sweet 16. Let's look at how positively scary their last 5 games have been in terms of shooting!

    Yes let's go back 5 games to capture how this team ended the regular season and how they look in the tournament.

    1. Vs. Minnesota 46% FG; 35% 3's; 50% FT's 

    Mind you, this was against a team with 3 starters suspended. Wisconsin won by 13 in what could be described as a win masquerading as a Minny forfeit. 

    2. vs. Purdue 91-80 Loss 43%; 44%; 80%. 

    One big problem: Their best shooting performance of the 5 games Wisconsin and their stingy defense gave up a whopping 90 pts.

    3. vs. Nebraska 70-58 loss 30%; 20%!!; 73%

    This was to a Nebraska team that came in 15-17.

    4. vs. Pitt 32%; 21%; 60%

    You all saw this game folks. This was an all-time tournament worst performance for Wisky and really both teams, which allowed Wisky to win in one of the all-time lowest scoring tournament affairs 47-43.

    5. Vs. Xavier 42%; 29%; 61% Won 66-63


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    A. Donald Rumsfeld, "Known Knowns" and "Unknown Unknowns"

    Remember my quote from the Donald in a previous thread? It dealt with the above. 

    We have Known Knowns and Unknown Unknowns. With Gonzaga we took a Known Known and we won.

    Notre Dame is a Known Known. With regard to what? Offensive performance.

    Folks, the team can flat out put the ball in the basket:

    VS. Stephen F Austin? 56% FG; 35% 3-pters; 75% FT.
    VS. Michigan? 58% FG; 53% 3-pters; 80% FT

    Both Austin and Michigan had sizable leads on Notre Dame. With that kind of shooting it doesn't matter. You will get back in the game. 

    How good has it been individually?

    Senior Zach Auguste is 12-14 over two games while swallowing up 25 rebounds. Now who on Wisconsin can even remotely compare to that?

    V.J Beachem 13-20 over two games with a perfect 7-7 last game.

    Notre Dame is the 9th best team in the nation in adjusted offensive efficiency.

    Before tonight every single team above them in the offensive efficiency ratings was still in the tournament except for Michigan State, a team that was blindsided by Middle Tennessee State (and that team beat MSU with amazing offense). Duke was just knocked out tonight but that is expected as the brackets start to force teams out.

    I want a team that can score. I want a team that I can depend on in this area. This is a KNOWN KNOWN.

    Now would you like a another Known Known?

    Wisconsin cannot score and they cannot shoot despite being in the Sweet 16. Let's look at how positively scary their last 5 games have been in terms of shooting!

    Yes let's go back 5 games to capture how this team ended the regular season and how they look in the tournament.

    1. Vs. Minnesota 46% FG; 35% 3's; 50% FT's 

    Mind you, this was against a team with 3 starters suspended. Wisconsin won by 13 in what could be described as a win masquerading as a Minny forfeit. 

    2. vs. Purdue 91-80 Loss 43%; 44%; 80%. 

    One big problem: Their best shooting performance of the 5 games Wisconsin and their stingy defense gave up a whopping 90 pts.

    3. vs. Nebraska 70-58 loss 30%; 20%!!; 73%

    This was to a Nebraska team that came in 15-17.

    4. vs. Pitt 32%; 21%; 60%

    You all saw this game folks. This was an all-time tournament worst performance for Wisky and really both teams, which allowed Wisky to win in one of the all-time lowest scoring tournament affairs 47-43.

    5. Vs. Xavier 42%; 29%; 61% Won 66-63


     
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    We saw how they won. Koenig hit 2 Curry-esque 3's in the final 10 seconds to steal the game.

    Individually, their best player is mired in the worst shooting slump of his career. Nigel Hayes is 8-42 and 0-17 from three in the past 3 games.

    Will he be this bad vs. Notre Dame? No, I think he will improve. But by how much? He changed his shooting style this year for a quicker release and his averages plummeted. On the year, he is shooting 36.9% FG and 29% from 3. Those are his AVERAGES. Even if he meets his averages, he still is costing his team a lot of possessions in misses.

    Mind you, this isn't as simple as taking the better shooting team for a pick.

    What Wisconsin is doing is downright scary on both sides of the ball. On offense, before tonight's games, they had the 31st and 32nd worst offensive performances in the field of 32. Scary

    So how are they winning these games? They are going after it. Amazingly they outrebounded Pitt and Xavier. The hustle is tremendous as is the in-your-face defense. Also Scary, in a good way.

    While Wisconsin's D looks tremendous, they are actually horrible at guarding the 3, something ND will kill you on. They rank 315 in the nation in guarding the 3.

    ND FG% shooting the 3? 52in the nation at 37% and that includes several dud performances from the regular season. They are hotter from 3 now. 

    ND can't guard the 3 either by Wisky can't shoot it well enough to counter what ND had (despite Koenig's resurgence and heroics last game). 

    And before last game Koenig was also in a terrible shooting slump. 

    The bottom line is that you simply cannot advance far in the tournament if you cannot score. If ND gets to 70 or 75 (as they did against SFA who is extremely stout defensively), Wisky's version of Austin's Walkup is Nigel Hayes and he can't hit anything right now. So where are the points coming from? You have to match ND's offense. Can they?

    How can they when they've averaged 58 over their past three tournament games, conference and NCAA?

    The bottom line is that ND is a Known Known on offense and they are one of the most efficient in the country.

    Wisconsin is terrible on offense as a Known Known. 

    Nigel Hayes is a Known Unknown. He'll be better but will it be enough? 

    Auguste is a Known Known. I'll take the Known Knowns.

    I'll give you another issue for Wisconsin.

    B. Wisconsin has no depth whatsoever

    They have absolutely no one on the bench who can offer anything. If there is any foul trouble with the starting 5, they are dead.

    The advantage is this starting 5 played together all year in all but one game so they know each other from head to toe. That familiarity is crucial when you examine their previous two wins. 

    But if you watch this team, they are subject to offensive lulls. Why? They tire out. No one on the bench can save them. They rely on their D to get them back in games but how many Koenig 3's can you continually depend on. Don't get me wrong, their stickler D is great. I love it and I love watching it. The team has heart and guts and just knocked off a potential final 4 team. But ND is offering something different and ND comes in prepared.

    Why?


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    We saw how they won. Koenig hit 2 Curry-esque 3's in the final 10 seconds to steal the game.

    Individually, their best player is mired in the worst shooting slump of his career. Nigel Hayes is 8-42 and 0-17 from three in the past 3 games.

    Will he be this bad vs. Notre Dame? No, I think he will improve. But by how much? He changed his shooting style this year for a quicker release and his averages plummeted. On the year, he is shooting 36.9% FG and 29% from 3. Those are his AVERAGES. Even if he meets his averages, he still is costing his team a lot of possessions in misses.

    Mind you, this isn't as simple as taking the better shooting team for a pick.

    What Wisconsin is doing is downright scary on both sides of the ball. On offense, before tonight's games, they had the 31st and 32nd worst offensive performances in the field of 32. Scary

    So how are they winning these games? They are going after it. Amazingly they outrebounded Pitt and Xavier. The hustle is tremendous as is the in-your-face defense. Also Scary, in a good way.

    While Wisconsin's D looks tremendous, they are actually horrible at guarding the 3, something ND will kill you on. They rank 315 in the nation in guarding the 3.

    ND FG% shooting the 3? 52in the nation at 37% and that includes several dud performances from the regular season. They are hotter from 3 now. 

    ND can't guard the 3 either by Wisky can't shoot it well enough to counter what ND had (despite Koenig's resurgence and heroics last game). 

    And before last game Koenig was also in a terrible shooting slump. 

    The bottom line is that you simply cannot advance far in the tournament if you cannot score. If ND gets to 70 or 75 (as they did against SFA who is extremely stout defensively), Wisky's version of Austin's Walkup is Nigel Hayes and he can't hit anything right now. So where are the points coming from? You have to match ND's offense. Can they?

    How can they when they've averaged 58 over their past three tournament games, conference and NCAA?

    The bottom line is that ND is a Known Known on offense and they are one of the most efficient in the country.

    Wisconsin is terrible on offense as a Known Known. 

    Nigel Hayes is a Known Unknown. He'll be better but will it be enough? 

    Auguste is a Known Known. I'll take the Known Knowns.

    I'll give you another issue for Wisconsin.

    B. Wisconsin has no depth whatsoever

    They have absolutely no one on the bench who can offer anything. If there is any foul trouble with the starting 5, they are dead.

    The advantage is this starting 5 played together all year in all but one game so they know each other from head to toe. That familiarity is crucial when you examine their previous two wins. 

    But if you watch this team, they are subject to offensive lulls. Why? They tire out. No one on the bench can save them. They rely on their D to get them back in games but how many Koenig 3's can you continually depend on. Don't get me wrong, their stickler D is great. I love it and I love watching it. The team has heart and guts and just knocked off a potential final 4 team. But ND is offering something different and ND comes in prepared.

    Why?


     
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    C. ND just played two half-court set offenses who have long offensive possessions

    Remember I talked about the previous conditioning for a team when you pick them? It's like working out. How can you bench press effectively if you haven't lifted in two months?

    Michigan and Austin both play in the half court running down the shot clock. ND won both games (barely in the second but they won both) and now they get yet another half court set offense.

    That is conditioning folks. Austin may be a 14 seed but what a tremendous tune-up for ND to play Wisky, no?

    Wisconsin on the other hand had Pitt to condition them for Xavier, bigs pounding the boards and nailing you down low. It worked out beautifully for them and they also got two wins. 

    But while ND plays a third consecutive similar team on offense (and even defense with Austin), Wisky will have to reinvent itself for something new. 

    And another note on Austin...

    D. How did Notre Dame shoot so well and almost lose to Stephen F. Austin?

    TURNOVERS.

    They had 13 against Austin and 16 against Michigan.

    But note, 13 is actually pretty good against Austin who force a mind-boggling 19 TO's a game (#1 in the nation). That's like boot camp before the war. 

    And ND's season average? 10th best in the nation in fewest TO's with 10 a game. 

    Folks if ND shoots as well as they have the past two games and reduce the TO's to their average or below, they would have won the past two games far more comfortably than what you saw.

    That's on the table for this game as Wisconsin is, remarkably, 240th in the nation in forcing turnovers (right around where Tulane is at!).


    Another edge for ND?

    E. Coaching

    ND's Brey has been to the NCAA tournament in 11 of 16 years coaching. 

    355-176 at ND

    Greg Gard 15-7. First NCAA tournament.

    Bo Ryan obviously caused all this and make no mistake, the job Gard has done has been tremendous.

    But we saw a similar coaching disparity with Gonzaga and Seton Hall when we took Gonzaga didn't we. Big time coaches typically get it done in the tournament. There is an edge to be had there.

    But even more so, Brey has this team believing in itself. He continually talks about the team's 'destiny' to get back to the Elite 8 where they lost to Kentucky last year and redeem themselves.

    People give such talk a hand wave but it's not about destiny at all, it's about belief. And he has gotten this team to believe in itself and the players are buying in especially after losing a player like Grant last year while still advancing in this tournament.

    They really have reinvented themselves.

    Now I look at Wisconsin. No Kaminsky, No Dekker and a new HC. Now they rely wholly on in your face D but how far is that D going to take them? While Kansas, Villanova, and Virginia are still in the tournament, they also rank near the top in offensive efficiency in the Kenpom ratings. Wisconsin is all the way down at 87th. That's a big disparity.

    Finally, do I like Matt Farrell at PG for ND (I know some of you here will point that out)? I'm not crazy about it. But like Wisky the past two games, the kid showed me some guts against a ferocious half court D against Austin.

    Wisconsin wants to keep the game close and win in closing minutes. Folks, that's a lot to ask. They nearly coughed put the first game and it took a reincarnation of Curry to win the second. Now they go to the Sweet 16 against a better coached team, a team looking for redemption after the loss to Kentucky (who they went toe to toe with and this is powerful psychological motivator for this year as a goal to get to the same round), and a team that is one of the most offensively efficient in the tournament. 

    And can Wisconsin hold a lead? They trailed almost the entire Pitt game and jumped out to a 17-8 lead against Xavier but their poor shooting left them trailing at the half. Their offensive woes and lulls do them in (even though the last two games resulted in victories).

    Wisconsin was a Final Four team the past two years. These players have that experience. But is this group with no bench and experiencing shooting woes at the worst time with a brand new HC in the tournament, going to top ND in this spot?

    That's a lot to 'play it close against' which Wisconsin loves to do. And we don't have a line to worry about. I see a close game and Wisconsin has the guts and the D to keep it close with any team, but in the end, I see one team prevailing.

    While leads to the pick:

    Notre Dame -1 over Wisconsin
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    C. ND just played two half-court set offenses who have long offensive possessions

    Remember I talked about the previous conditioning for a team when you pick them? It's like working out. How can you bench press effectively if you haven't lifted in two months?

    Michigan and Austin both play in the half court running down the shot clock. ND won both games (barely in the second but they won both) and now they get yet another half court set offense.

    That is conditioning folks. Austin may be a 14 seed but what a tremendous tune-up for ND to play Wisky, no?

    Wisconsin on the other hand had Pitt to condition them for Xavier, bigs pounding the boards and nailing you down low. It worked out beautifully for them and they also got two wins. 

    But while ND plays a third consecutive similar team on offense (and even defense with Austin), Wisky will have to reinvent itself for something new. 

    And another note on Austin...

    D. How did Notre Dame shoot so well and almost lose to Stephen F. Austin?

    TURNOVERS.

    They had 13 against Austin and 16 against Michigan.

    But note, 13 is actually pretty good against Austin who force a mind-boggling 19 TO's a game (#1 in the nation). That's like boot camp before the war. 

    And ND's season average? 10th best in the nation in fewest TO's with 10 a game. 

    Folks if ND shoots as well as they have the past two games and reduce the TO's to their average or below, they would have won the past two games far more comfortably than what you saw.

    That's on the table for this game as Wisconsin is, remarkably, 240th in the nation in forcing turnovers (right around where Tulane is at!).


    Another edge for ND?

    E. Coaching

    ND's Brey has been to the NCAA tournament in 11 of 16 years coaching. 

    355-176 at ND

    Greg Gard 15-7. First NCAA tournament.

    Bo Ryan obviously caused all this and make no mistake, the job Gard has done has been tremendous.

    But we saw a similar coaching disparity with Gonzaga and Seton Hall when we took Gonzaga didn't we. Big time coaches typically get it done in the tournament. There is an edge to be had there.

    But even more so, Brey has this team believing in itself. He continually talks about the team's 'destiny' to get back to the Elite 8 where they lost to Kentucky last year and redeem themselves.

    People give such talk a hand wave but it's not about destiny at all, it's about belief. And he has gotten this team to believe in itself and the players are buying in especially after losing a player like Grant last year while still advancing in this tournament.

    They really have reinvented themselves.

    Now I look at Wisconsin. No Kaminsky, No Dekker and a new HC. Now they rely wholly on in your face D but how far is that D going to take them? While Kansas, Villanova, and Virginia are still in the tournament, they also rank near the top in offensive efficiency in the Kenpom ratings. Wisconsin is all the way down at 87th. That's a big disparity.

    Finally, do I like Matt Farrell at PG for ND (I know some of you here will point that out)? I'm not crazy about it. But like Wisky the past two games, the kid showed me some guts against a ferocious half court D against Austin.

    Wisconsin wants to keep the game close and win in closing minutes. Folks, that's a lot to ask. They nearly coughed put the first game and it took a reincarnation of Curry to win the second. Now they go to the Sweet 16 against a better coached team, a team looking for redemption after the loss to Kentucky (who they went toe to toe with and this is powerful psychological motivator for this year as a goal to get to the same round), and a team that is one of the most offensively efficient in the tournament. 

    And can Wisconsin hold a lead? They trailed almost the entire Pitt game and jumped out to a 17-8 lead against Xavier but their poor shooting left them trailing at the half. Their offensive woes and lulls do them in (even though the last two games resulted in victories).

    Wisconsin was a Final Four team the past two years. These players have that experience. But is this group with no bench and experiencing shooting woes at the worst time with a brand new HC in the tournament, going to top ND in this spot?

    That's a lot to 'play it close against' which Wisconsin loves to do. And we don't have a line to worry about. I see a close game and Wisconsin has the guts and the D to keep it close with any team, but in the end, I see one team prevailing.

    While leads to the pick:

    Notre Dame -1 over Wisconsin
     
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    I was leaning Wisconsin Scal......you really going all in on the Irish??
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    Quote Originally Posted by lmb4321:

    I was leaning Wisconsin Scal......you really going all in on the Irish??

     

    No, not all in. Standard bet.

    But I watched Wisconsin the past three games and it was a nightmare, despite going 2-1.

    They did everything right defensively and everything wrong offensively.

    They purposely keep the game close for late scores. Xavier wins and covers by 5 if Koenig misses that 3 with ten seconds left and fouls the rebounder.

    Even the Pitt game came down to the last possession.

    I give this team a TON of credit for what they've done in the first two rounds. While ND isn't incredibly deep at least they have SOMETHING to lean on.

    Wisky has nothing. Zero. That is why Hayes can go an unconscionable 3-17 and stay in the game. They have nothing on the bench that is better than even 3-17 (to his credit, his defense has been outstanding).

    And I've watched the NFL for many years. I bet the teams that keep it close (The Jets did this for several years). One mistake defensively? Poof. They're finished. This team is shooting between 55% and 60% the past two games. If they get out front of Wisky, how can Wisky counter? ND won't play like Xavier played the last game. They were more than fine tuned for this game against Stephen F Austin.

    It's close but ND gets the nod.

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    I was leaning Wisconsin Scal......you really going all in on the Irish??

     

    No, not all in. Standard bet.

    But I watched Wisconsin the past three games and it was a nightmare, despite going 2-1.

    They did everything right defensively and everything wrong offensively.

    They purposely keep the game close for late scores. Xavier wins and covers by 5 if Koenig misses that 3 with ten seconds left and fouls the rebounder.

    Even the Pitt game came down to the last possession.

    I give this team a TON of credit for what they've done in the first two rounds. While ND isn't incredibly deep at least they have SOMETHING to lean on.

    Wisky has nothing. Zero. That is why Hayes can go an unconscionable 3-17 and stay in the game. They have nothing on the bench that is better than even 3-17 (to his credit, his defense has been outstanding).

    And I've watched the NFL for many years. I bet the teams that keep it close (The Jets did this for several years). One mistake defensively? Poof. They're finished. This team is shooting between 55% and 60% the past two games. If they get out front of Wisky, how can Wisky counter? ND won't play like Xavier played the last game. They were more than fine tuned for this game against Stephen F Austin.

    It's close but ND gets the nod.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmiller503:

    Good write up but I am afraid to tail someone who's 8-1...seems like you're due for a loss lol

     

    Suit yourself

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    Good write up but I am afraid to tail someone who's 8-1...seems like you're due for a loss lol

     

    Suit yourself

     
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    Scal keep killing it everyones all over wisky
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmiller503:

    Why not just parlay NCU & Virginia. This game just seems so risky to me.

     

    It is risky but this is the road less traveled. I started down it with this game and there's no time to turn around now.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmiller503:

    Why not just parlay NCU & Virginia. This game just seems so risky to me.

     

    It is risky but this is the road less traveled. I started down it with this game and there's no time to turn around now.

     

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    Why not cap and easier one if this was your hardest to cap all year?

    Again, many thanks for all of those past winners.
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    Again, many thanks for all of those past winners.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by pmiller503:

    Why not just parlay NCU & Virginia. This game just seems so risky to me.

     

    And people said the same thing about the Zags/Seton Hall with the same exact line and that was an easy winner. This one won't be easy because we don't have the time zone/west coast advantage to lean on right out the gate but I see an edge and I bet it.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by pmiller503:

    Why not just parlay NCU & Virginia. This game just seems so risky to me.

     

    And people said the same thing about the Zags/Seton Hall with the same exact line and that was an easy winner. This one won't be easy because we don't have the time zone/west coast advantage to lean on right out the gate but I see an edge and I bet it.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by jrgumpert:

    Why not cap and easier one if this was your hardest to cap all year?

    Again, many thanks for all of those past winners.

     

    Familiarity with the teams. I've watched these teams closely throughout the tournament. Plus Wisconsin is in the Big 10 with Rutgers.

    Can't say the same for Virginia or UNC etc.

    I'd much rather cap teams I've watched aggressively and I've watched both here.

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    Why not cap and easier one if this was your hardest to cap all year?

    Again, many thanks for all of those past winners.

     

    Familiarity with the teams. I've watched these teams closely throughout the tournament. Plus Wisconsin is in the Big 10 with Rutgers.

    Can't say the same for Virginia or UNC etc.

    I'd much rather cap teams I've watched aggressively and I've watched both here.

     
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    Notre Dame has had an easier path to the Sweet 16.  Wisconsin is the superior squad.  Don't let the small spread fool you.

    Wisconsin by 8 or more

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    Wisconsin by 8 or more

     
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    great write up bro, my original gut feeling was wisky because they're so hot, but those last two games have been coin flips. SFA played out of their minds and Xavier played awful, that's why the spread is so low, public perception. I'm hoping to see a pick em before I take ND given all the public love for wisky. I wouldn't feel bad even taking a ND -2 or -3 here.
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    great write up bro, my original gut feeling was wisky because they're so hot, but those last two games have been coin flips. SFA played out of their minds and Xavier played awful, that's why the spread is so low, public perception. I'm hoping to see a pick em before I take ND given all the public love for wisky. I wouldn't feel bad even taking a ND -2 or -3 here.
     
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    Scal....been a fan for years....actually like your angle...BOL....
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    Wow. my second time reading your write-ups and I feel like a fan boy in awe of your depth and analysis. Wasn't sure at first, was just thinking of playing the under, but after thinking Notre Dame could win with the talent they have, and THEN reading this write-up. It's jumped to the top of my priority list. If you had to pick one more to play what would it be...Zags over Cuse? Virginia over ISU?

    Take a look at my picks and shallow analysis. Nothing like yours, but I love to hear your logic and reasoning.


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    Wow. my second time reading your write-ups and I feel like a fan boy in awe of your depth and analysis. Wasn't sure at first, was just thinking of playing the under, but after thinking Notre Dame could win with the talent they have, and THEN reading this write-up. It's jumped to the top of my priority list. If you had to pick one more to play what would it be...Zags over Cuse? Virginia over ISU?

    Take a look at my picks and shallow analysis. Nothing like yours, but I love to hear your logic and reasoning.


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    Much respect Scalabrine for this great post. You made a friend here. Even more respect if Notre Dame wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Advocate:

    Notre Dame has had an easier path to the Sweet 16.  Wisconsin is the superior squad.  Don't let the small spread fool you.

    Wisconsin by 8 or more


    Nope.

    ND had to overcome SFA's full court trapping defense and hot shooting to pull out a win. ND shot 57 % from the field and won by on a last second tip in.
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    Wisconsin by 8 or more


    Nope.

    ND had to overcome SFA's full court trapping defense and hot shooting to pull out a win. ND shot 57 % from the field and won by on a last second tip in.
     
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    This thread will be interesting once scalabrine goes 8 and 2.










    Jokes aside, good luck
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