And if you are comparing Alabama and Clemson, Alabama faced one team in the current top 10 of Sagarin and lost. Clemson faced 2 in the current top 10 and won both of them.
You nitpick schedules and strength of wins for no reason. Why are you even comparing them right now? And if you were to compare them, how can you take anything away from a team that is undefeated? It just makes no sense.
Again bro, i'm not taking anything away from Clemson, but am saying Alabama is the better team.
How about this, if Clemson and Alabama do end up playing, i'll take Alab straight up, you can have Clemson straight up... just name your price. Let's see if you'll put your money where your mouth is.
0
Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
And if you are comparing Alabama and Clemson, Alabama faced one team in the current top 10 of Sagarin and lost. Clemson faced 2 in the current top 10 and won both of them.
You nitpick schedules and strength of wins for no reason. Why are you even comparing them right now? And if you were to compare them, how can you take anything away from a team that is undefeated? It just makes no sense.
Again bro, i'm not taking anything away from Clemson, but am saying Alabama is the better team.
How about this, if Clemson and Alabama do end up playing, i'll take Alab straight up, you can have Clemson straight up... just name your price. Let's see if you'll put your money where your mouth is.
Again bro, i'm not taking anything away from Clemson, but am saying Alabama is the better team.
How about this, if Clemson and Alabama do end up playing, i'll take Alab straight up, you can have Clemson straight up... just name your price. Let's see if you'll put your money where your mouth is.
Name one good QB that Alabama has beaten this year. I will patiently wait.
0
Quote Originally Posted by Skanless1:
Again bro, i'm not taking anything away from Clemson, but am saying Alabama is the better team.
How about this, if Clemson and Alabama do end up playing, i'll take Alab straight up, you can have Clemson straight up... just name your price. Let's see if you'll put your money where your mouth is.
Name one good QB that Alabama has beaten this year. I will patiently wait.
I should've asked for two because Dak is good, but you should get my point. SEC QBs are awful. Clemson has a real QB. Last year when Alabama faced a real QB, they lost.
0
I should've asked for two because Dak is good, but you should get my point. SEC QBs are awful. Clemson has a real QB. Last year when Alabama faced a real QB, they lost.
I would never bet with a random person I met on Covers. It's senseless and I will be getting points if they ever met and wanted to bet Clemson. I live in Las Vegas and have off shore books. I'm sure I'm going to trust my money with a random person on Covers and I'm sure I am going to trust a random person on Covers to pay me if they lost. Don't be ignorant.
0
I would never bet with a random person I met on Covers. It's senseless and I will be getting points if they ever met and wanted to bet Clemson. I live in Las Vegas and have off shore books. I'm sure I'm going to trust my money with a random person on Covers and I'm sure I am going to trust a random person on Covers to pay me if they lost. Don't be ignorant.
I should've asked for two because Dak is good, but you should get my point. SEC QBs are awful. Clemson has a real QB. Last year when Alabama faced a real QB, they lost.
Dak's probably the best one.
So you're telling me that you are confident that Clemson would be undefeated if they played Alabama's schedule?
0
Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
I should've asked for two because Dak is good, but you should get my point. SEC QBs are awful. Clemson has a real QB. Last year when Alabama faced a real QB, they lost.
Dak's probably the best one.
So you're telling me that you are confident that Clemson would be undefeated if they played Alabama's schedule?
I would never bet with a random person I met on Covers. It's senseless and I will be getting points if they ever met and wanted to bet Clemson. I live in Las Vegas and have off shore books. I'm sure I'm going to trust my money with a random person on Covers and I'm sure I am going to trust a random person on Covers to pay me if they lost. Don't be ignorant.
"I'd be getting points"... think about that for a moment or two....
0
Quote Originally Posted by PapaShango:
I would never bet with a random person I met on Covers. It's senseless and I will be getting points if they ever met and wanted to bet Clemson. I live in Las Vegas and have off shore books. I'm sure I'm going to trust my money with a random person on Covers and I'm sure I am going to trust a random person on Covers to pay me if they lost. Don't be ignorant.
"I'd be getting points"... think about that for a moment or two....
I'm talking collection of wins and overall SOS. Like I said, please give me at least a SIMILAR 6 game stretch of wins by Clemson.
How about giving us one Bama win that is as good or FSU or Notre Dame?
You can't.
I agree that Bama played a very tough schedule, but you're not even trying to be objective. Clemson's schedule was harder at the top, with Clemson beating two top-10 teams, while Bama played just one and lost.
Bama's schedule was deeper with a lot of wins over teams 11-30.
But I agree with Boom's statement that you're trolling. This is just a stupid argument at this point when it's going to be settled in a few weeks anyway.
0
Quote Originally Posted by Skanless1:
I'm talking collection of wins and overall SOS. Like I said, please give me at least a SIMILAR 6 game stretch of wins by Clemson.
How about giving us one Bama win that is as good or FSU or Notre Dame?
You can't.
I agree that Bama played a very tough schedule, but you're not even trying to be objective. Clemson's schedule was harder at the top, with Clemson beating two top-10 teams, while Bama played just one and lost.
Bama's schedule was deeper with a lot of wins over teams 11-30.
But I agree with Boom's statement that you're trolling. This is just a stupid argument at this point when it's going to be settled in a few weeks anyway.
Really, yur supporting yur argument by stating that Jack st is better than the Citadel. I didn't know either even had football teams. What you should be asking is how the SEC is allowed to schedule marshmallow teams every yr in the 11th week of the schedule
They've been doing it for a while now because they're scared that otherwise they can't win their rivalry games against ACC teams. The ACC is 7-1 vs the SEC in these instate season-ending rivalries the last 2 years. And they're starting to lose to these FCS teams too. A couple years ago UF lost to Georgia Southern. SubmitThis year USC lost to the Citadel. It's pretty funny.
0
Quote Originally Posted by shiek:
Really, yur supporting yur argument by stating that Jack st is better than the Citadel. I didn't know either even had football teams. What you should be asking is how the SEC is allowed to schedule marshmallow teams every yr in the 11th week of the schedule
They've been doing it for a while now because they're scared that otherwise they can't win their rivalry games against ACC teams. The ACC is 7-1 vs the SEC in these instate season-ending rivalries the last 2 years. And they're starting to lose to these FCS teams too. A couple years ago UF lost to Georgia Southern. SubmitThis year USC lost to the Citadel. It's pretty funny.
RIGHT NOW HERE ARE MY CURRENT POINT SPREAD RATINGS ( this is for RIGHT NOW, What Happened in the First month if the season really is irrelevant today)..
1 OKLAHOMA 150 No one is playing better football right now ... 3 Road Victories over top 25 squads ... 5-0 vs top 25
2 ALABAMA 149 SURE the SEC EAST stinks, but the West is still very good... Any team in the country would lose a game this season with a SEC WEST SCHEDULE ...
3 Oregon 143.5 THE PAC 12 is the BEST CONFERENCE in the Country... Everyone but Oregon State could knock you off.. Home field advantage is huge with the difference in elevation, WEATHER ,and off the field distractions...
4 Stanford 141.5 Shaw not going for 2 was a major blunder ... Thankfully Hogan and the kicker bailed him out ... Without to 4th quarter Fumbles vs the Ducks the CARDINAL WOULD currently own a playoff spot ..
5 CLEMSON 140.5 Don't know what to think .. They have not looked sharp in their last 3 Games ... The ACC is much, much weaker than the PAC12,BIG 12, SEC.... I think they only beat North Carolina Half the time ..
6 North Carolina 139.5 Might be a coin flipper this week in the ACC CHAMPIONSHIP....
7 NOTRE DAME 139 So close to Making the PLAYOFF... Brian Kelly is my coach if the year..Overcame so many injuries...
8 MICHIGAN STATE 138 Not sure how they match up with the above squads or Iowa ... One thing is for sure D'Antonio is a excellent coach ... Crazy that SPARTY could easily be a 3 loss team ... If they played OREGON today I would be all liver the DUCKS with a healthy VERNON ADAMS....
*TBC
BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
0
Can't wait to see it play out on the Field ....
RIGHT NOW HERE ARE MY CURRENT POINT SPREAD RATINGS ( this is for RIGHT NOW, What Happened in the First month if the season really is irrelevant today)..
1 OKLAHOMA 150 No one is playing better football right now ... 3 Road Victories over top 25 squads ... 5-0 vs top 25
2 ALABAMA 149 SURE the SEC EAST stinks, but the West is still very good... Any team in the country would lose a game this season with a SEC WEST SCHEDULE ...
3 Oregon 143.5 THE PAC 12 is the BEST CONFERENCE in the Country... Everyone but Oregon State could knock you off.. Home field advantage is huge with the difference in elevation, WEATHER ,and off the field distractions...
4 Stanford 141.5 Shaw not going for 2 was a major blunder ... Thankfully Hogan and the kicker bailed him out ... Without to 4th quarter Fumbles vs the Ducks the CARDINAL WOULD currently own a playoff spot ..
5 CLEMSON 140.5 Don't know what to think .. They have not looked sharp in their last 3 Games ... The ACC is much, much weaker than the PAC12,BIG 12, SEC.... I think they only beat North Carolina Half the time ..
6 North Carolina 139.5 Might be a coin flipper this week in the ACC CHAMPIONSHIP....
7 NOTRE DAME 139 So close to Making the PLAYOFF... Brian Kelly is my coach if the year..Overcame so many injuries...
8 MICHIGAN STATE 138 Not sure how they match up with the above squads or Iowa ... One thing is for sure D'Antonio is a excellent coach ... Crazy that SPARTY could easily be a 3 loss team ... If they played OREGON today I would be all liver the DUCKS with a healthy VERNON ADAMS....
They've been doing it for a while now because they're scared that otherwise they can't win their rivalry games against ACC teams. The ACC is 7-1 vs the SEC in these instate season-ending rivalries the last 2 years. And they're starting to lose to these FCS teams too. A couple years ago UF lost to Georgia Southern. SubmitThis year USC lost to the Citadel. It's pretty funny.
The SEC is 4-3 vs the ACC this year. The worst team in the SEC beat an ACC championship contender.
0
Quote Originally Posted by mws:
They've been doing it for a while now because they're scared that otherwise they can't win their rivalry games against ACC teams. The ACC is 7-1 vs the SEC in these instate season-ending rivalries the last 2 years. And they're starting to lose to these FCS teams too. A couple years ago UF lost to Georgia Southern. SubmitThis year USC lost to the Citadel. It's pretty funny.
The SEC is 4-3 vs the ACC this year. The worst team in the SEC beat an ACC championship contender.
How about giving us one Bama win that is as good or FSU or Notre Dame?
You can't.
I agree that Bama played a very tough schedule, but you're not even trying to be objective. Clemson's schedule was harder at the top, with Clemson beating two top-10 teams, while Bama played just one and lost.
Bama's schedule was deeper with a lot of wins over teams 11-30.
But I agree with Boom's statement that you're trolling. This is just a stupid argument at this point when it's going to be settled in a few weeks anyway.
Is FSU's value a product of their schedule? They have the 57th ranked schedule compared to Bama with the 5th ranked schedule. Those teams Bama plays also play difficult schedules. When you play tough teams. you are bound to lose games. The ACC is by far the weakest of all the power conferences. Just like when FSU with Winston dominated for two years there. Once they went out of conference, a good Auburn team outplayed them and outgained them but lost a close game. Oregon obliterated the ACC's best by 40.
0
Quote Originally Posted by mws:
How about giving us one Bama win that is as good or FSU or Notre Dame?
You can't.
I agree that Bama played a very tough schedule, but you're not even trying to be objective. Clemson's schedule was harder at the top, with Clemson beating two top-10 teams, while Bama played just one and lost.
Bama's schedule was deeper with a lot of wins over teams 11-30.
But I agree with Boom's statement that you're trolling. This is just a stupid argument at this point when it's going to be settled in a few weeks anyway.
Is FSU's value a product of their schedule? They have the 57th ranked schedule compared to Bama with the 5th ranked schedule. Those teams Bama plays also play difficult schedules. When you play tough teams. you are bound to lose games. The ACC is by far the weakest of all the power conferences. Just like when FSU with Winston dominated for two years there. Once they went out of conference, a good Auburn team outplayed them and outgained them but lost a close game. Oregon obliterated the ACC's best by 40.
Either you love Bama or you hate em, the only one that is looking at the "match up" side of things is (Double Up).. Here's the thing that gives Bama the edge over any other team, the LOS play is the best in the country right now, and has been since week 5... Bamas DL will dominate ANY OL and create havoc for OCs to move the ball. OU, Clemson, Mich St, or any other team at the top has not seen a defense this suffocating.. On the flip side, Bama has seen some pretty damn good defenses this year. They see one in practice everyday! And they have yet to see one that can stop Henry from running the ball! Would OU and Clemson be able to score in the high 20's vs Bama? Possibly! But I highly doubt it. The QB from Clemson would get rattled IMO, but Mayfield from OU might be the style of QB to get it done vs Bama. Plus I think OU has better athletes and a better defense. Bama would beat Clemson by double digits, but would be in a war with OU I think. Defense wins championships, and I think Bama has the best one BY FAR this year. Also, I think UNC is about to beat Clemson this week so that will keep them outta the playoff. For Clemson to give up 30+ points to USCjr is a joke. i think they are the Oregon from last few years. Good enough to get there, but not Elite enough to win it.
0
Either you love Bama or you hate em, the only one that is looking at the "match up" side of things is (Double Up).. Here's the thing that gives Bama the edge over any other team, the LOS play is the best in the country right now, and has been since week 5... Bamas DL will dominate ANY OL and create havoc for OCs to move the ball. OU, Clemson, Mich St, or any other team at the top has not seen a defense this suffocating.. On the flip side, Bama has seen some pretty damn good defenses this year. They see one in practice everyday! And they have yet to see one that can stop Henry from running the ball! Would OU and Clemson be able to score in the high 20's vs Bama? Possibly! But I highly doubt it. The QB from Clemson would get rattled IMO, but Mayfield from OU might be the style of QB to get it done vs Bama. Plus I think OU has better athletes and a better defense. Bama would beat Clemson by double digits, but would be in a war with OU I think. Defense wins championships, and I think Bama has the best one BY FAR this year. Also, I think UNC is about to beat Clemson this week so that will keep them outta the playoff. For Clemson to give up 30+ points to USCjr is a joke. i think they are the Oregon from last few years. Good enough to get there, but not Elite enough to win it.
Chad is correct.. Clemson does not match up well with us at all, but Oklahoma would be a challenge for us and only because of their QB... We did shut down Dak, and the Allen's in the SEC, so it is not like we haven't faced some really good QB's.
It all depends on how well their offensive line can block our pass rush, and how well they can stop the run. They have a HORRIBLE rush defense, so I think Henry could keep Mayfield off the field for the most part in this game, and I think that will be Saban's game plan, to control the clock with the run game. We DO not want to let them come out with some early drives and TD's and let this become a shootout. So yeah, we will see...
0
Chad is correct.. Clemson does not match up well with us at all, but Oklahoma would be a challenge for us and only because of their QB... We did shut down Dak, and the Allen's in the SEC, so it is not like we haven't faced some really good QB's.
It all depends on how well their offensive line can block our pass rush, and how well they can stop the run. They have a HORRIBLE rush defense, so I think Henry could keep Mayfield off the field for the most part in this game, and I think that will be Saban's game plan, to control the clock with the run game. We DO not want to let them come out with some early drives and TD's and let this become a shootout. So yeah, we will see...
Surprised to see anyone saying Oklahoma beats Alabama but Clemson doesn't have a chance. Oklahoma barely beat TCU without Boykin or Doctson. Mayfield left after first half, but it still was not a great win if you're looking at things that way.
Clemson's impressive stretch is the entire season. It is not easy to go undefeated, regardless of conference.
ACC 7-1 vs. SEC on rivalry weekend the last 2 seasons. Florida State beat the SEC East champ handily. Bama and Ole Miss start the would have been backup QBs from Florida State and Clemson. ACC had 47 players drafted last year. Arkansas sure was a tough out for Toledo. Ole Miss really put it to Memphis.
Throwing up a stretch of daunting names is not an argument. Do I think the ACC is better than the SEC? Don't know, don't care. My point is you can make an argument for either one. Take the good and bad into consideration.
0
Surprised to see anyone saying Oklahoma beats Alabama but Clemson doesn't have a chance. Oklahoma barely beat TCU without Boykin or Doctson. Mayfield left after first half, but it still was not a great win if you're looking at things that way.
Clemson's impressive stretch is the entire season. It is not easy to go undefeated, regardless of conference.
ACC 7-1 vs. SEC on rivalry weekend the last 2 seasons. Florida State beat the SEC East champ handily. Bama and Ole Miss start the would have been backup QBs from Florida State and Clemson. ACC had 47 players drafted last year. Arkansas sure was a tough out for Toledo. Ole Miss really put it to Memphis.
Throwing up a stretch of daunting names is not an argument. Do I think the ACC is better than the SEC? Don't know, don't care. My point is you can make an argument for either one. Take the good and bad into consideration.
The ACC is by far the weakest of all the power conferences.
This is what's so annoying, The claim that Alabama is better than Clemson is totally reasonable. I'm not even saying I disagree, but the reasoning some people use is ridiculous. The ACC is not by far the weakest conference; it's not the weakest at all.
The Big 10 is the weakest, and the five conferences in fact (because the SEC East is so bad compared to the West) are closely bunched together this year: SEC > Big 12 > PAC > ACC > Big 10.
0
Quote Originally Posted by da_kid:
The ACC is by far the weakest of all the power conferences.
This is what's so annoying, The claim that Alabama is better than Clemson is totally reasonable. I'm not even saying I disagree, but the reasoning some people use is ridiculous. The ACC is not by far the weakest conference; it's not the weakest at all.
The Big 10 is the weakest, and the five conferences in fact (because the SEC East is so bad compared to the West) are closely bunched together this year: SEC > Big 12 > PAC > ACC > Big 10.
This is what's so annoying, The claim that Alabama is better than Clemson is totally reasonable. I'm not even saying I disagree, but the reasoning some people use is ridiculous. The ACC is not by far the weakest conference; it's not the weakest at all.
The Big 10 is the weakest, and the five conferences in fact (because the SEC East is so bad compared to the West) are closely bunched together this year: SEC > Big 12 > PAC > ACC > Big 10.
Sorry, I would take Mich St., Ohio St, Michigan, Iowa, Northwestern and Wisconsin over the ACC. You realize that NC has not played a team in the top 30 all year and made it to their championship game.
0
Quote Originally Posted by mws:
This is what's so annoying, The claim that Alabama is better than Clemson is totally reasonable. I'm not even saying I disagree, but the reasoning some people use is ridiculous. The ACC is not by far the weakest conference; it's not the weakest at all.
The Big 10 is the weakest, and the five conferences in fact (because the SEC East is so bad compared to the West) are closely bunched together this year: SEC > Big 12 > PAC > ACC > Big 10.
Sorry, I would take Mich St., Ohio St, Michigan, Iowa, Northwestern and Wisconsin over the ACC. You realize that NC has not played a team in the top 30 all year and made it to their championship game.
This is what's so annoying, The claim that Alabama is better than Clemson is totally reasonable. I'm not even saying I disagree, but the reasoning some people use is ridiculous. The ACC is not by far the weakest conference; it's not the weakest at all.
The Big 10 is the weakest, and the five conferences in fact (because the SEC East is so bad compared to the West) are closely bunched together this year: SEC > Big 12 > PAC > ACC > Big 10.
I agreed with everything you said on here until this. If you think the Big 10 is the worst conference of the Power 5 then your bat sh** crazy.
Iowa, MSU, OSU, and Mich are all better than the best Pac 12 team.
Those 4 are better than any other top 4 in any conference. And not to mention the depth in the Big 10 is actually pretty solid this year. Wisconsin and NW arent horrible (NW beat the Pac 12 best team) and even Penn state would be decent if they could just block for a second or two. And to say the SEC is the best is a huge strecth too. But hey, this is just my opinion
0
Quote Originally Posted by mws:
This is what's so annoying, The claim that Alabama is better than Clemson is totally reasonable. I'm not even saying I disagree, but the reasoning some people use is ridiculous. The ACC is not by far the weakest conference; it's not the weakest at all.
The Big 10 is the weakest, and the five conferences in fact (because the SEC East is so bad compared to the West) are closely bunched together this year: SEC > Big 12 > PAC > ACC > Big 10.
I agreed with everything you said on here until this. If you think the Big 10 is the worst conference of the Power 5 then your bat sh** crazy.
Iowa, MSU, OSU, and Mich are all better than the best Pac 12 team.
Those 4 are better than any other top 4 in any conference. And not to mention the depth in the Big 10 is actually pretty solid this year. Wisconsin and NW arent horrible (NW beat the Pac 12 best team) and even Penn state would be decent if they could just block for a second or two. And to say the SEC is the best is a huge strecth too. But hey, this is just my opinion
Sorry, I would take Mich St., Ohio St, Michigan, Iowa, Northwestern and Wisconsin over the ACC. You realize that NC has not played a team in the top 30 all year and made it to their championship game.
You realize the team that is playing in the SEC championship just score 2, I repeat TWO points on the ACC 3rd best team at home..... Ok time to go back to your day job
0
Quote Originally Posted by da_kid:
Sorry, I would take Mich St., Ohio St, Michigan, Iowa, Northwestern and Wisconsin over the ACC. You realize that NC has not played a team in the top 30 all year and made it to their championship game.
You realize the team that is playing in the SEC championship just score 2, I repeat TWO points on the ACC 3rd best team at home..... Ok time to go back to your day job
You realize the team that is playing in the SEC championship just score 2, I repeat TWO points on the ACC 3rd best team at home..... Ok time to go back to your day job
We have seen your top 5, thanks for the laugh. The worst team in the SEC beat the Acc's second best. Football guys are talking here, back to hockey you go.
0
Quote Originally Posted by hradekbr:
You realize the team that is playing in the SEC championship just score 2, I repeat TWO points on the ACC 3rd best team at home..... Ok time to go back to your day job
We have seen your top 5, thanks for the laugh. The worst team in the SEC beat the Acc's second best. Football guys are talking here, back to hockey you go.
If you choose to make use of any information on this website including online sports betting services from any websites that may be featured on
this website, we strongly recommend that you carefully check your local laws before doing so.It is your sole responsibility to understand your local laws and observe them strictly.Covers does not provide
any advice or guidance as to the legality of online sports betting or other online gambling activities within your jurisdiction and you are responsible for complying with laws that are applicable to you in
your relevant locality.Covers disclaims all liability associated with your use of this website and use of any information contained on it.As a condition of using this website, you agree to hold the owner
of this website harmless from any claims arising from your use of any services on any third party website that may be featured by Covers.
Hot Forum Topics
