Fuking committee sucks but anyone with any knowledge of football already knows that.
Somebody butthurt? Look at where everyone in the committee is from. There is no bias. The teams are slotted just as they should be. They should have put Ucf in the playoffs so your team could have it easy I guess. There will be no easy outs here. Good match ups.
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Quote Originally Posted by Urbanwildlife:
Fuking committee sucks but anyone with any knowledge of football already knows that.
Somebody butthurt? Look at where everyone in the committee is from. There is no bias. The teams are slotted just as they should be. They should have put Ucf in the playoffs so your team could have it easy I guess. There will be no easy outs here. Good match ups.
Why does the committee suck? Just about everyone I know who knows football expected Sparty to jump the Sooners-
Boom-
Watson is very good but he is not a once in a lifetime talent- Vick Winston, Newton, Mariotta, etc.
Henry deserves the Heisman in my opinion- Clemson has many more skill players so if Watson goes down they will be ok- If Henry for Alabama goes down then they are in a huge bind- Henry ran for over 12,000 yards in high school- that is amazing- he just broke Herschel Walkers SEC record- seems to me he will win the Heisman- but what do I know
Clemson is the most balanced team in the playoffs but those same stupid mistakes will cost them in my opinion- Bama has a much better front seven but Clemson has the better secondary- I wouldn't be surprised to see the Sooners, Clemson, or Bama win it all- I think they all have a good chance with the exception of Michigan St. Interesting times ahead for sure
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Urban-
Why does the committee suck? Just about everyone I know who knows football expected Sparty to jump the Sooners-
Boom-
Watson is very good but he is not a once in a lifetime talent- Vick Winston, Newton, Mariotta, etc.
Henry deserves the Heisman in my opinion- Clemson has many more skill players so if Watson goes down they will be ok- If Henry for Alabama goes down then they are in a huge bind- Henry ran for over 12,000 yards in high school- that is amazing- he just broke Herschel Walkers SEC record- seems to me he will win the Heisman- but what do I know
Clemson is the most balanced team in the playoffs but those same stupid mistakes will cost them in my opinion- Bama has a much better front seven but Clemson has the better secondary- I wouldn't be surprised to see the Sooners, Clemson, or Bama win it all- I think they all have a good chance with the exception of Michigan St. Interesting times ahead for sure
The Committee just bent your boys over a chair. Sorry. Of the four teams left, I'm pulling for Tiger High, but I don't 'expect them to beat either of the teams they'll have to face. Oh well, there's always excessive drinking.
Nice season by you, by the way.
+3.5 wow. Did not see that one coming. Still like Clemson over Boomer though my friend...
BOL Boom and to all this bowl season
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Quote Originally Posted by MaineRoad:
The Committee just bent your boys over a chair. Sorry. Of the four teams left, I'm pulling for Tiger High, but I don't 'expect them to beat either of the teams they'll have to face. Oh well, there's always excessive drinking.
Nice season by you, by the way.
+3.5 wow. Did not see that one coming. Still like Clemson over Boomer though my friend...
I wanted to see the Clemson Bama matchup, but I do not see Clemson getting past Oklahoma... I just think Oklahoma is a better team all around, but I've been wrong before... Taking the -3, BOL
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I wanted to see the Clemson Bama matchup, but I do not see Clemson getting past Oklahoma... I just think Oklahoma is a better team all around, but I've been wrong before... Taking the -3, BOL
Nice boom. 61% LW?..way to jump that last % to close it out!! Can't disagree w Watson so time to see how the voters go w it. I can see "Committee Think" taking over and going RB in "the year of the RB" or justify using some other ESPN slogan. GL to Clem and Watson.
Bowl capping question for you dont mind imparting . Do you find more value in with the bowl lines when they come out albeit there may be less intel, more uncertainties, etc. or is it worth the wait and risk maybe a tighter line?
Congrats and good luck the rest of the way!
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Nice boom. 61% LW?..way to jump that last % to close it out!! Can't disagree w Watson so time to see how the voters go w it. I can see "Committee Think" taking over and going RB in "the year of the RB" or justify using some other ESPN slogan. GL to Clem and Watson.
Bowl capping question for you dont mind imparting . Do you find more value in with the bowl lines when they come out albeit there may be less intel, more uncertainties, etc. or is it worth the wait and risk maybe a tighter line?
Blowout if u could please clarify your comments. On the 1 hand u say any1 who knows fball knew mich st would jump. On other U say every1 except mich st has a chance. In my view, this is problem w committee as they don't make std clear. It appears that they r just penalizing OU for not having a conf championship when the make up of Big 12 does not warrant 1 (OU should not be penalized for playing a round robin schedule). The fact that OU is favored against the #1 team should speak volumes. Appreciate yur analysis.
Boom waiting for green light on Clemson OU. Can they get pressure on mayfield???
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Blowout if u could please clarify your comments. On the 1 hand u say any1 who knows fball knew mich st would jump. On other U say every1 except mich st has a chance. In my view, this is problem w committee as they don't make std clear. It appears that they r just penalizing OU for not having a conf championship when the make up of Big 12 does not warrant 1 (OU should not be penalized for playing a round robin schedule). The fact that OU is favored against the #1 team should speak volumes. Appreciate yur analysis.
Boom waiting for green light on Clemson OU. Can they get pressure on mayfield???
Mccaffery is very deserving. I couldn't argue with either Henry, McCaffery or Watson but I feel Henry will win-
Very accurate post and you could make a case of for any of them, including Keenan Reynolds of Navy. I feel Henry is the least deserving of those mentioned, as I feel the others mean more to there teams win/loss record than Henry means to Alabama.
SNITCHES end up being bitches, or end up with stitches, and in ditches! #REALITY
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Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:
Moody-
Mccaffery is very deserving. I couldn't argue with either Henry, McCaffery or Watson but I feel Henry will win-
Very accurate post and you could make a case of for any of them, including Keenan Reynolds of Navy. I feel Henry is the least deserving of those mentioned, as I feel the others mean more to there teams win/loss record than Henry means to Alabama.
Why does the committee suck? Just about everyone I know who knows football expected Sparty to jump the Sooners-
Boom-
Watson is very good but he is not a once in a lifetime talent- Vick Winston, Newton, Mariotta, etc.
Henry deserves the Heisman in my opinion- Clemson has many more skill players so if Watson goes down they will be ok- If Henry for Alabama goes down then they are in a huge bind- Henry ran for over 12,000 yards in high school- that is amazing- he just broke Herschel Walkers SEC record- seems to me he will win the Heisman- but what do I know
Clemson is the most balanced team in the playoffs but those same stupid mistakes will cost them in my opinion- Bama has a much better front seven but Clemson has the better secondary- I wouldn't be surprised to see the Sooners, Clemson, or Bama win it all- I think they all have a good chance with the exception of Michigan St. Interesting times ahead for sure
This is totally false. You take Watson out, Clemson looses 4 minimum games this year (e.g. last year when Watson went out). On the other hand, a running back is as good as the offensive line he runs behind. You could put up good numbers behind that line. No position in today's college football is remotely as important as the QB position. Running backs are a dime a dozen and I believe Bama would be jut as good with their second or third string guy, Clemson, however woudn't be in the top 15. Watson is by far the most important player on Clemson's team. If the goal of the Heisman is to reward the best player in college football, its no doubt Watson, b/c, again, Clemson wouldn't sniff the top 15 without him.
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Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:
Urban-
Why does the committee suck? Just about everyone I know who knows football expected Sparty to jump the Sooners-
Boom-
Watson is very good but he is not a once in a lifetime talent- Vick Winston, Newton, Mariotta, etc.
Henry deserves the Heisman in my opinion- Clemson has many more skill players so if Watson goes down they will be ok- If Henry for Alabama goes down then they are in a huge bind- Henry ran for over 12,000 yards in high school- that is amazing- he just broke Herschel Walkers SEC record- seems to me he will win the Heisman- but what do I know
Clemson is the most balanced team in the playoffs but those same stupid mistakes will cost them in my opinion- Bama has a much better front seven but Clemson has the better secondary- I wouldn't be surprised to see the Sooners, Clemson, or Bama win it all- I think they all have a good chance with the exception of Michigan St. Interesting times ahead for sure
This is totally false. You take Watson out, Clemson looses 4 minimum games this year (e.g. last year when Watson went out). On the other hand, a running back is as good as the offensive line he runs behind. You could put up good numbers behind that line. No position in today's college football is remotely as important as the QB position. Running backs are a dime a dozen and I believe Bama would be jut as good with their second or third string guy, Clemson, however woudn't be in the top 15. Watson is by far the most important player on Clemson's team. If the goal of the Heisman is to reward the best player in college football, its no doubt Watson, b/c, again, Clemson wouldn't sniff the top 15 without him.
Urban douche, asked you in previous post after you posted Okie v Clemson for NC if Sparty would jump Oklahoma. No response because you are clueless. Seems like that will be the first round game. Once again, you show your ineptness for college football knowledge.
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Urban douche, asked you in previous post after you posted Okie v Clemson for NC if Sparty would jump Oklahoma. No response because you are clueless. Seems like that will be the first round game. Once again, you show your ineptness for college football knowledge.
Boom since your keeping it civilized I will play along. Watson is the best player in football. I don't disagree with that. He touches the ball every play, he is dynamic, and most importantly his team is undefeated. I just can't wait to get the playoffs started. Bama front seven is the best in football and they will give any of the other teams in the playoffs fits. You keep saying Florida is a joke...yeah the offense but their defense is for real. I know your gonna come back with fsu game but they only had like 300 yards or less of offense. One of the td passes was on fourth down and was a goofy looking across the body pass that was to no one but fell in a fsu players hands. Bama could have scored again late but didn't. I took Florida because two things to Bet on with Saban is he doesn't run up score on lesser teams and friends. I see several people here trying to find best matchup for bama to possibly lose in first round of payoffs so their team don't have to face them. If bama is so lucky to be here since they went through the weak sec then you shouldn't have a problem where anyone is ranked. Yours or anyone's team who is matched up with the overrated and overhyped bama should be happy to face them in first round because it's basically a bye week right. Bama faced 2 qbs that had better numbers than Watson in dak and Kelly and they faced another who had very similar on Allen. So it's not their first rodeo. If Williams from unc wouldn't have thrown over open wrs heads all night and not turned the ball over on the 5 along with the complete bogus offsides call that screwed them. I think we have different conversation today. You guys say how everyone is out to make sure bama makes the playoffs well that flag last night proved that someone wanted to make sure the acc was in too. You see how easy it is to carry on a thread when you don't bash people. You don't have to leave you just have to chill on the attacks of those who disagree with you. Good luck this howl season!
Im not gonna address this entire post of yours..... But I will a few.
NO.... Dak or Kelly don't have better numbers than Watson...Good try tho..... it's called the internet, use it..... look up stats
Bottom line.... I think Clemson will this 4 team playoff. It's my opinion, you don't have to agree with it and that's fine.
But I will warn you of one thing.....
Every week guys like you have been saying....
Clemson can't beat N.D
Clemson can't beat FSU
Clemson can't beat UNC
Clemson can't beat Oklahoma
Clemson can't beat Alabama
Where has that got you so far?
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Quote Originally Posted by moodyjeremy:
Boom since your keeping it civilized I will play along. Watson is the best player in football. I don't disagree with that. He touches the ball every play, he is dynamic, and most importantly his team is undefeated. I just can't wait to get the playoffs started. Bama front seven is the best in football and they will give any of the other teams in the playoffs fits. You keep saying Florida is a joke...yeah the offense but their defense is for real. I know your gonna come back with fsu game but they only had like 300 yards or less of offense. One of the td passes was on fourth down and was a goofy looking across the body pass that was to no one but fell in a fsu players hands. Bama could have scored again late but didn't. I took Florida because two things to Bet on with Saban is he doesn't run up score on lesser teams and friends. I see several people here trying to find best matchup for bama to possibly lose in first round of payoffs so their team don't have to face them. If bama is so lucky to be here since they went through the weak sec then you shouldn't have a problem where anyone is ranked. Yours or anyone's team who is matched up with the overrated and overhyped bama should be happy to face them in first round because it's basically a bye week right. Bama faced 2 qbs that had better numbers than Watson in dak and Kelly and they faced another who had very similar on Allen. So it's not their first rodeo. If Williams from unc wouldn't have thrown over open wrs heads all night and not turned the ball over on the 5 along with the complete bogus offsides call that screwed them. I think we have different conversation today. You guys say how everyone is out to make sure bama makes the playoffs well that flag last night proved that someone wanted to make sure the acc was in too. You see how easy it is to carry on a thread when you don't bash people. You don't have to leave you just have to chill on the attacks of those who disagree with you. Good luck this howl season!
Im not gonna address this entire post of yours..... But I will a few.
NO.... Dak or Kelly don't have better numbers than Watson...Good try tho..... it's called the internet, use it..... look up stats
Bottom line.... I think Clemson will this 4 team playoff. It's my opinion, you don't have to agree with it and that's fine.
The Committee just bent your boys over a chair. Sorry. Of the four teams left, I'm pulling for Tiger High, but I don't 'expect them to beat either of the teams they'll have to face. Oh well, there's always excessive drinking.
Nice season by you, by the way.
ahh.. I disagree maine
Oklahoma is better than last year, yes. But Clemson wore them boys slap out with Cole Stoudt....Now Watson is playing.
Oklahoma is good.... Clemson is better IMO
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Quote Originally Posted by MaineRoad:
The Committee just bent your boys over a chair. Sorry. Of the four teams left, I'm pulling for Tiger High, but I don't 'expect them to beat either of the teams they'll have to face. Oh well, there's always excessive drinking.
Nice season by you, by the way.
ahh.. I disagree maine
Oklahoma is better than last year, yes. But Clemson wore them boys slap out with Cole Stoudt....Now Watson is playing.
Why does the committee suck? Just about everyone I know who knows football expected Sparty to jump the Sooners-
Boom-
Watson is very good but he is not a once in a lifetime talent- Vick Winston, Newton, Mariotta, etc.
Henry deserves the Heisman in my opinion- Clemson has many more skill players so if Watson goes down they will be ok- If Henry for Alabama goes down then they are in a huge bind- Henry ran for over 12,000 yards in high school- that is amazing- he just broke Herschel Walkers SEC record- seems to me he will win the Heisman- but what do I know
Clemson is the most balanced team in the playoffs but those same stupid mistakes will cost them in my opinion- Bama has a much better front seven but Clemson has the better secondary- I wouldn't be surprised to see the Sooners, Clemson, or Bama win it all- I think they all have a good chance with the exception of Michigan St. Interesting times ahead for sure
2 things...
I respectfully disagree about Watson. I been doing this a long time and I think this kid has that special type of talent that only a few have had.
Clemson is tired on defense right now.... getting this time off will re-charge the batteries. Clemson played 11 straight weeks to end the season. IMO, they are the best OVERALL team and will show it.
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Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:
Urban-
Why does the committee suck? Just about everyone I know who knows football expected Sparty to jump the Sooners-
Boom-
Watson is very good but he is not a once in a lifetime talent- Vick Winston, Newton, Mariotta, etc.
Henry deserves the Heisman in my opinion- Clemson has many more skill players so if Watson goes down they will be ok- If Henry for Alabama goes down then they are in a huge bind- Henry ran for over 12,000 yards in high school- that is amazing- he just broke Herschel Walkers SEC record- seems to me he will win the Heisman- but what do I know
Clemson is the most balanced team in the playoffs but those same stupid mistakes will cost them in my opinion- Bama has a much better front seven but Clemson has the better secondary- I wouldn't be surprised to see the Sooners, Clemson, or Bama win it all- I think they all have a good chance with the exception of Michigan St. Interesting times ahead for sure
2 things...
I respectfully disagree about Watson. I been doing this a long time and I think this kid has that special type of talent that only a few have had.
Clemson is tired on defense right now.... getting this time off will re-charge the batteries. Clemson played 11 straight weeks to end the season. IMO, they are the best OVERALL team and will show it.
I wanted to see the Clemson Bama matchup, but I do not see Clemson getting past Oklahoma... I just think Oklahoma is a better team all around, but I've been wrong before... Taking the -3, BOL
same story over and over with you slick.... every week, same song and dance...
I dont see Clemson getting by this team or that team...blah blah blah... Clemson will beat Alabama. You need to get your mind wrapped around that.
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Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:
I wanted to see the Clemson Bama matchup, but I do not see Clemson getting past Oklahoma... I just think Oklahoma is a better team all around, but I've been wrong before... Taking the -3, BOL
same story over and over with you slick.... every week, same song and dance...
I dont see Clemson getting by this team or that team...blah blah blah... Clemson will beat Alabama. You need to get your mind wrapped around that.
Im not gonna address this entire post of yours..... But I will a few.
NO.... Dak or Kelly don't have better numbers than Watson...Good try tho..... it's called the internet, use it..... look up stats
Bottom line.... I think Clemson will this 4 team playoff. It's my opinion, you don't have to agree with it and that's fine.
But I will warn you of one thing.....
Every week guys like you have been saying....
Clemson can't beat N.D
Clemson can't beat FSU
Clemson can't beat UNC
Clemson can't beat Oklahoma
Clemson can't beat Alabama
Where has that got you so far?
Not trying to get you stirred up but just a few numbers for you
Chad Kelly 3740 yards for 27/12 with 154 rating and 437 rushing yards for 10 tds
Dak Prescott 3418 yards for 25/4 with 149 rating and 541 rushing yards for 10 tds
Deshaun Watson 3512 yards for 30/11 with 159 rating and 878 rushing for 11 tds
Brandon Allen 3125 yards for 29/7 with 165 rating but only 161 rushing and 1 td
I added Brandon Allen for shits and giggles because he don't suck like you have said all season. Watson had one extra game and a much easier schedule to do that against. Now I am not taking anything away from Watson. I do think he is on best team and should win heisman. I have said for last few weeks Clemson is my number 1 team all you have to do is go back and look. I also never said they can't beat any of those teams I said if they play the way they have last few weeks they might lose to unc. Now Clemson won't get a phantom offsides to preserve their chance at title and they have 3 great defenses in front of them. Not the vaunted 70th ranked unc defense they had to deal with last night. Like I said I am not trying to get into chest thumping match just a friendly disagreement.
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Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:
Im not gonna address this entire post of yours..... But I will a few.
NO.... Dak or Kelly don't have better numbers than Watson...Good try tho..... it's called the internet, use it..... look up stats
Bottom line.... I think Clemson will this 4 team playoff. It's my opinion, you don't have to agree with it and that's fine.
But I will warn you of one thing.....
Every week guys like you have been saying....
Clemson can't beat N.D
Clemson can't beat FSU
Clemson can't beat UNC
Clemson can't beat Oklahoma
Clemson can't beat Alabama
Where has that got you so far?
Not trying to get you stirred up but just a few numbers for you
Chad Kelly 3740 yards for 27/12 with 154 rating and 437 rushing yards for 10 tds
Dak Prescott 3418 yards for 25/4 with 149 rating and 541 rushing yards for 10 tds
Deshaun Watson 3512 yards for 30/11 with 159 rating and 878 rushing for 11 tds
Brandon Allen 3125 yards for 29/7 with 165 rating but only 161 rushing and 1 td
I added Brandon Allen for shits and giggles because he don't suck like you have said all season. Watson had one extra game and a much easier schedule to do that against. Now I am not taking anything away from Watson. I do think he is on best team and should win heisman. I have said for last few weeks Clemson is my number 1 team all you have to do is go back and look. I also never said they can't beat any of those teams I said if they play the way they have last few weeks they might lose to unc. Now Clemson won't get a phantom offsides to preserve their chance at title and they have 3 great defenses in front of them. Not the vaunted 70th ranked unc defense they had to deal with last night. Like I said I am not trying to get into chest thumping match just a friendly disagreement.
another trashed discussion thread Boom, you kind of set that up in the opening old buddy but since this is your last official thread then I say go out with a bang
good luck to your team in the playoffs, they certainly deserved the number 1 seed
if they beat OU and Bama in back to back games then that will be one of the most impressive national title teams ever, 15-0 with wins over FSU, Notre DAme, UNC, OU & Bama would be amazing
I think they have a shot, just need to get well and get fresh on defense, OU will be a good matchup for them & will test them
it's been a fun ride with you bro, we already don't have enough good cappers so you'll be missed in that area for sure but when you know it's time to move on, then you know
one thing I have to admit I was wrong about many years ago is Dabo, I thought he was a reach of a hire but he has created a big time program with big time players and tons of wins, he basically has made me a believer, he's a good dude and entertaining to listen to, I can see why his kids love him
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another trashed discussion thread Boom, you kind of set that up in the opening old buddy but since this is your last official thread then I say go out with a bang
good luck to your team in the playoffs, they certainly deserved the number 1 seed
if they beat OU and Bama in back to back games then that will be one of the most impressive national title teams ever, 15-0 with wins over FSU, Notre DAme, UNC, OU & Bama would be amazing
I think they have a shot, just need to get well and get fresh on defense, OU will be a good matchup for them & will test them
it's been a fun ride with you bro, we already don't have enough good cappers so you'll be missed in that area for sure but when you know it's time to move on, then you know
one thing I have to admit I was wrong about many years ago is Dabo, I thought he was a reach of a hire but he has created a big time program with big time players and tons of wins, he basically has made me a believer, he's a good dude and entertaining to listen to, I can see why his kids love him
You keep bringing up the offside play. But yet you dont bring up the fact Clemson pushed them around all night gaining over 600+ yards to 380.... Clemson rushed for 300+ yards. But I guess none of that matters...
Clemson is gonna win the National Championship. The Sooner you guys can come to grips with this...the better off you will be.
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yeah...........and Watson #'s are better
You keep bringing up the offside play. But yet you dont bring up the fact Clemson pushed them around all night gaining over 600+ yards to 380.... Clemson rushed for 300+ yards. But I guess none of that matters...
Clemson is gonna win the National Championship. The Sooner you guys can come to grips with this...the better off you will be.
another trashed discussion thread Boom, you kind of set that up in the opening old buddy but since this is your last official thread then I say go out with a bang
good luck to your team in the playoffs, they certainly deserved the number 1 seed
if they beat OU and Bama in back to back games then that will be one of the most impressive national title teams ever, 15-0 with wins over FSU, Notre DAme, UNC, OU & Bama would be amazing
I think they have a shot, just need to get well and get fresh on defense, OU will be a good matchup for them & will test them
it's been a fun ride with you bro, we already don't have enough good cappers so you'll be missed in that area for sure but when you know it's time to move on, then you know
one thing I have to admit I was wrong about many years ago is Dabo, I thought he was a reach of a hire but he has created a big time program with big time players and tons of wins, he basically has made me a believer, he's a good dude and entertaining to listen to, I can see why his kids love him
wahoo...
Like I say man. Im not, not gonna post anymore. I'm just not gonna have my own threads with picks and analysis.Yours and a few others I will pop into time to time and make my " Conor Mcgregor " comments....
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Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:
another trashed discussion thread Boom, you kind of set that up in the opening old buddy but since this is your last official thread then I say go out with a bang
good luck to your team in the playoffs, they certainly deserved the number 1 seed
if they beat OU and Bama in back to back games then that will be one of the most impressive national title teams ever, 15-0 with wins over FSU, Notre DAme, UNC, OU & Bama would be amazing
I think they have a shot, just need to get well and get fresh on defense, OU will be a good matchup for them & will test them
it's been a fun ride with you bro, we already don't have enough good cappers so you'll be missed in that area for sure but when you know it's time to move on, then you know
one thing I have to admit I was wrong about many years ago is Dabo, I thought he was a reach of a hire but he has created a big time program with big time players and tons of wins, he basically has made me a believer, he's a good dude and entertaining to listen to, I can see why his kids love him
wahoo...
Like I say man. Im not, not gonna post anymore. I'm just not gonna have my own threads with picks and analysis.Yours and a few others I will pop into time to time and make my " Conor Mcgregor " comments....
You keep bringing up the offside play. But yet you dont bring up the fact Clemson pushed them around all night gaining over 600+ yards to 380.... Clemson rushed for 300+ yards. But I guess none of that matters...
Clemson is gonna win the National Championship. The Sooner you guys can come to grips with this...the better off you will be.
Kelly wasn't good enough to start at Clemson, that about covers that topic
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Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:
yeah...........and Watson #'s are better
You keep bringing up the offside play. But yet you dont bring up the fact Clemson pushed them around all night gaining over 600+ yards to 380.... Clemson rushed for 300+ yards. But I guess none of that matters...
Clemson is gonna win the National Championship. The Sooner you guys can come to grips with this...the better off you will be.
Kelly wasn't good enough to start at Clemson, that about covers that topic
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Sorry. Of the four teams left, I'm pulling for Tiger High, but I don't 'expect them to beat either of the teams they'll have to face. Oh well, there's always excessive drinking. 
+3.5 wow. Did not see that one coming. Still like Clemson over Boomer though my friend...
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