I guess what I was saying is that based on who they have beaten- Mich St. deserves to be number 3 (if you are going to penalize the Big 12 for not having a championship game- the committe did it last year so at least they are being consistant)
However, using my "eye" test(which is how I cap a lot of games)- I feel that all of the other teams are at least 7 points better than the Spartans- I could be wrong but that is my opinion- I do however respect Michigan State for being so resilient and never quitting which is a testament to a very good coach. I would love it if they beat Bama but I just don't see it happening
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I guess what I was saying is that based on who they have beaten- Mich St. deserves to be number 3 (if you are going to penalize the Big 12 for not having a championship game- the committe did it last year so at least they are being consistant)
However, using my "eye" test(which is how I cap a lot of games)- I feel that all of the other teams are at least 7 points better than the Spartans- I could be wrong but that is my opinion- I do however respect Michigan State for being so resilient and never quitting which is a testament to a very good coach. I would love it if they beat Bama but I just don't see it happening
I forgot more then you will ever knows only works on idiots like you who say it.. Call your buddies in we can talk philosophy all night bring your chalkboard
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I forgot more then you will ever knows only works on idiots like you who say it.. Call your buddies in we can talk philosophy all night bring your chalkboard
I can see your point- I guess what I was trying to say is Bama is built on defense and feeding Henry the rock- Clemson has play makers all over the field especially on offense- I don't see that on the Alabama side- Sure Clemson would have lost a few games without Watson- I would have no issues at all with him winning the Heisman- I just think when it comes to it that Henry will get it- Clemson is young and could be even better next year
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I can see your point- I guess what I was trying to say is Bama is built on defense and feeding Henry the rock- Clemson has play makers all over the field especially on offense- I don't see that on the Alabama side- Sure Clemson would have lost a few games without Watson- I would have no issues at all with him winning the Heisman- I just think when it comes to it that Henry will get it- Clemson is young and could be even better next year
Alabama is nowhere near as good as they usually are this year, Florida defense played their butts off yesterday but of course were stuck with a lame worthless QB to waster their effort yet again.
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Alabama is nowhere near as good as they usually are this year, Florida defense played their butts off yesterday but of course were stuck with a lame worthless QB to waster their effort yet again.
Sorry I cant wait for you to look up your answers on the internet I have a life.. I'll check back tomorrow to eat your lunch again...
Its obvious you cannot live without this place or I'd bet you a life ban on Oak Clemson giving you the 2.5 points....
But you are leaving anyway right ? Sure you are
Go call all your buddies in I'm more of a man I guess and deal with my battles one on one but since you need a group to engage I'll be back tomorrow to educate you ...
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Sorry I cant wait for you to look up your answers on the internet I have a life.. I'll check back tomorrow to eat your lunch again...
Its obvious you cannot live without this place or I'd bet you a life ban on Oak Clemson giving you the 2.5 points....
But you are leaving anyway right ? Sure you are
Go call all your buddies in I'm more of a man I guess and deal with my battles one on one but since you need a group to engage I'll be back tomorrow to educate you ...
Look, Boom and I have had out issues in the past but if you show a little respect and don't just make it like you are trolling for the sake of trolling then maybe he will respect your opinion- I don't agree with everything he says and I let him know it but I try to be respectful and he shows me respect in return- I disagree with the theory of putting Bama against Michigan St. but it would not surprise me either as the bias towards Bama does get sickening- We will all find out in the long run who has the best team so let's just figure out on where we can make some money!
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Look, Boom and I have had out issues in the past but if you show a little respect and don't just make it like you are trolling for the sake of trolling then maybe he will respect your opinion- I don't agree with everything he says and I let him know it but I try to be respectful and he shows me respect in return- I disagree with the theory of putting Bama against Michigan St. but it would not surprise me either as the bias towards Bama does get sickening- We will all find out in the long run who has the best team so let's just figure out on where we can make some money!
Waiting to hear on the X's * O's on your defensive schemata Boom. Then again, saying you know more about football than anyone else means you never played the game.
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Waiting to hear on the X's * O's on your defensive schemata Boom. Then again, saying you know more about football than anyone else means you never played the game.
Blowout, you cannot show any respect for boom since he only respects himself. I could care less what he thinks of me or anyone else on this site for that matter. I make good coin every year betting sports and don't need any thumbs up from this site. To me it is quite amusing, especially boom. He won't stay away for long.
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Blowout, you cannot show any respect for boom since he only respects himself. I could care less what he thinks of me or anyone else on this site for that matter. I make good coin every year betting sports and don't need any thumbs up from this site. To me it is quite amusing, especially boom. He won't stay away for long.
Look, Boom and I have had out issues in the past but if you show a little respect and don't just make it like you are trolling for the sake of trolling then maybe he will respect your opinion- I don't agree with everything he says and I let him know it but I try to be respectful and he shows me respect in return- I disagree with the theory of putting Bama against Michigan St. but it would not surprise me either as the bias towards Bama does get sickening- We will all find out in the long run who has the best team so let's just figure out on where we can make some money!
it's a gambling site and somehow he is able to get under everyone's skin and make them respond and fight with him, it would appear he has all the power from where I'm sitting, you have guys responding to him that don't even post their own plays, they rip him as if they are any better or anyone cares, the whole thing is puzzling to me
"leave, leave, leave so we don't have to read this thread anymore"
same guys that respond all the time, haha, yep
it's a betting site, not a coaches forum, not a fan site, not a football speak site, if you don't start a thread with plays in it or post picks in someone else's threads then what are you doing here? why post at all? to argue and disagree with Boom in his weekly thread? really? & he's the one in the wrong? ok, got it
I've never taken Booms side or anyone elses for that matter because I don't give a shiit who likes who but geez, once he leaves some of these dudes will be without a thread to post in since they don't start their own
and anyone referring to Boom as a "decent capper" is either stupid or blind or both, don't be an idiot, this guy has smashed for 7 fkn years in front of the world (everyone that views covers), he is really good at this, period
carry on kids
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Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:
Gator/football 2016
Look, Boom and I have had out issues in the past but if you show a little respect and don't just make it like you are trolling for the sake of trolling then maybe he will respect your opinion- I don't agree with everything he says and I let him know it but I try to be respectful and he shows me respect in return- I disagree with the theory of putting Bama against Michigan St. but it would not surprise me either as the bias towards Bama does get sickening- We will all find out in the long run who has the best team so let's just figure out on where we can make some money!
it's a gambling site and somehow he is able to get under everyone's skin and make them respond and fight with him, it would appear he has all the power from where I'm sitting, you have guys responding to him that don't even post their own plays, they rip him as if they are any better or anyone cares, the whole thing is puzzling to me
"leave, leave, leave so we don't have to read this thread anymore"
same guys that respond all the time, haha, yep
it's a betting site, not a coaches forum, not a fan site, not a football speak site, if you don't start a thread with plays in it or post picks in someone else's threads then what are you doing here? why post at all? to argue and disagree with Boom in his weekly thread? really? & he's the one in the wrong? ok, got it
I've never taken Booms side or anyone elses for that matter because I don't give a shiit who likes who but geez, once he leaves some of these dudes will be without a thread to post in since they don't start their own
and anyone referring to Boom as a "decent capper" is either stupid or blind or both, don't be an idiot, this guy has smashed for 7 fkn years in front of the world (everyone that views covers), he is really good at this, period
Alabama is nowhere near as good as they usually are this year, Florida defense played their butts off yesterday but of course were stuck with a lame worthless QB to waster their effort yet again.
that defense must hate that offense, Florida defense would be unreal if they an offense that could control any sort of clock and give them a rest, that's one of the worst offenses I've seen at a big time program, especially a national championship winning program, geez
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Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:
Alabama is nowhere near as good as they usually are this year, Florida defense played their butts off yesterday but of course were stuck with a lame worthless QB to waster their effort yet again.
that defense must hate that offense, Florida defense would be unreal if they an offense that could control any sort of clock and give them a rest, that's one of the worst offenses I've seen at a big time program, especially a national championship winning program, geez
Blowout, you cannot show any respect for boom since he only respects himself. I could care less what he thinks of me or anyone else on this site for that matter. I make good coin every year betting sports and don't need any thumbs up from this site. To me it is quite amusing, especially boom. He won't stay away for long.
I know the sport, I spent years and countless hours in film rooms studying this game for 2 different SEC programs. I just don't have much time to post here anymore. I know this, Bama is nothing special this year. Yesterday went about as I expected and if the Gators had any QB play that could have been a real scare for the Tide and they could have gone down. Our defense was shutting them down and taking away their run game and forcing them to throw which made Coker get pressure just like I knew would happen until the offense left them out there all day and let Bama start to get the running game going enough on first downs to make 3rd downs manageable. Bama has a very average QB at best and a good defense but not great. Watching Florida play with their QB has been sickening the 2nd half of the season and looked just like the last few years and it's just not fair to such a great defense to have to deal with that, they deserve better. That is the best overall defense in the country and they proved it again yesterday coupled with one of the worst QB's if not THE worst one on the nation with a young OL. Treon is inexplicably awful and can't even complete screen passes and they got stuck with him after the Mizzou game. I know that Bama shouldn't be laying ten against an NFL QB with a good defense that can match them pretty well in the trenches up front. As for OU and Clemson I haven't seen enough of both to know what to expect but OU is laying 4 but they have benefited from playing a few teams back up QB's and banged up teams.
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Quote Originally Posted by gatorbear:
Blowout, you cannot show any respect for boom since he only respects himself. I could care less what he thinks of me or anyone else on this site for that matter. I make good coin every year betting sports and don't need any thumbs up from this site. To me it is quite amusing, especially boom. He won't stay away for long.
I know the sport, I spent years and countless hours in film rooms studying this game for 2 different SEC programs. I just don't have much time to post here anymore. I know this, Bama is nothing special this year. Yesterday went about as I expected and if the Gators had any QB play that could have been a real scare for the Tide and they could have gone down. Our defense was shutting them down and taking away their run game and forcing them to throw which made Coker get pressure just like I knew would happen until the offense left them out there all day and let Bama start to get the running game going enough on first downs to make 3rd downs manageable. Bama has a very average QB at best and a good defense but not great. Watching Florida play with their QB has been sickening the 2nd half of the season and looked just like the last few years and it's just not fair to such a great defense to have to deal with that, they deserve better. That is the best overall defense in the country and they proved it again yesterday coupled with one of the worst QB's if not THE worst one on the nation with a young OL. Treon is inexplicably awful and can't even complete screen passes and they got stuck with him after the Mizzou game. I know that Bama shouldn't be laying ten against an NFL QB with a good defense that can match them pretty well in the trenches up front. As for OU and Clemson I haven't seen enough of both to know what to expect but OU is laying 4 but they have benefited from playing a few teams back up QB's and banged up teams.
This week lets ignore the mentally and emotionally challenged attention seekers. Lets not feed them so they can carry with themselves.
Again if you want to keep this thread somewhat clear of the bullchit do not respond to the mentally challenged antagonists such as Gatorbear and football2016 as there only reason for being here is to destroy the thread of Boom_Boom.
SNITCHES end up being bitches, or end up with stitches, and in ditches! #REALITY
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Quote Originally Posted by Urbanwildlife:
This week lets ignore the mentally and emotionally challenged attention seekers. Lets not feed them so they can carry with themselves.
Again if you want to keep this thread somewhat clear of the bullchit do not respond to the mentally challenged antagonists such as Gatorbear and football2016 as there only reason for being here is to destroy the thread of Boom_Boom.
Boom, you keep saying clemson is the best team, ect but then u are also pointing out how they are turning the ball over doing boneheaded stuff too often... So the question is, will they be able to stop with this all of a sudden? Because i think if you're being honest with yourself you know that its just a matter of time before it catches up to them. Imo they win not win this playoff if they're making critical mistakes/turning the ball over. I think it catches up to them.
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Boom, you keep saying clemson is the best team, ect but then u are also pointing out how they are turning the ball over doing boneheaded stuff too often... So the question is, will they be able to stop with this all of a sudden? Because i think if you're being honest with yourself you know that its just a matter of time before it catches up to them. Imo they win not win this playoff if they're making critical mistakes/turning the ball over. I think it catches up to them.
Boom, you keep saying clemson is the best team, ect but then u are also pointing out how they are turning the ball over doing boneheaded stuff too often... So the question is, will they be able to stop with this all of a sudden? Because i think if you're being honest with yourself you know that its just a matter of time before it catches up to them. Imo they win not win this playoff if they're making critical mistakes/turning the ball over. I think it catches up to them.
great point here, they have a full 3 weeks to clean up any of that stuff
they can't have a bunch of mistakes and turnovers and beat teams like OU or Bama or even sparty, I have a feeling they will play well against OU, should be a great game to watch with two very nice offenses, I like the playoff games
nice job with Iowa bizz, you did good there
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Quote Originally Posted by abizzo24:
Boom, you keep saying clemson is the best team, ect but then u are also pointing out how they are turning the ball over doing boneheaded stuff too often... So the question is, will they be able to stop with this all of a sudden? Because i think if you're being honest with yourself you know that its just a matter of time before it catches up to them. Imo they win not win this playoff if they're making critical mistakes/turning the ball over. I think it catches up to them.
great point here, they have a full 3 weeks to clean up any of that stuff
they can't have a bunch of mistakes and turnovers and beat teams like OU or Bama or even sparty, I have a feeling they will play well against OU, should be a great game to watch with two very nice offenses, I like the playoff games
Again if you want to keep this thread somewhat clear of the bullchit do not respond to the mentally challenged antagonists such as Gatorbear and football2016 as there only reason for being here is to destroy the thread of Boom_Boom.
I know.... I was just taking a few jabs... Hey it's my last thread. I got to have a little fun.....But you're right.... Can't respond to the trolls
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Quote Originally Posted by Urbanwildlife:
Again if you want to keep this thread somewhat clear of the bullchit do not respond to the mentally challenged antagonists such as Gatorbear and football2016 as there only reason for being here is to destroy the thread of Boom_Boom.
I know.... I was just taking a few jabs... Hey it's my last thread. I got to have a little fun.....But you're right.... Can't respond to the trolls
Boom, you keep saying clemson is the best team, ect but then u are also pointing out how they are turning the ball over doing boneheaded stuff too often... So the question is, will they be able to stop with this all of a sudden? Because i think if you're being honest with yourself you know that its just a matter of time before it catches up to them. Imo they win not win this playoff if they're making critical mistakes/turning the ball over. I think it catches up to them.
No question what you're saying is fair.... Last night they did a great job protecting the football...it was the stupid penalty's and such keeping UNC in the game.
I think Clemson is the most complete team of the 4.
I was gonna wait a little bit to post about this game vs Oklahoma coming up....But I will point out a few things to give a little teaser..
1) Oklahoma can NOT block that defensive line Clemson will put on the field.
2) Clemson has the best player in the country. I know they will probably give it Henry, but I think if you asked all division 1 coaches if they could pick one player to start there program with.....I would almost bet you 95% would take Watson.
3) Oklahoma has 2 TREMENDOUS running backs.... that is Oklahoma's chance to win the game, only chance.
4) Clemson defense is really talented and deep.... they are going through fatigue the last few games... they played 11 straight weeks. the Bye was very early in the season. this rest will be HUGE....
5) Clemson is the best team IMO, led by the best player IMO, with the best player being in the most important position on the field.
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Quote Originally Posted by abizzo24:
Boom, you keep saying clemson is the best team, ect but then u are also pointing out how they are turning the ball over doing boneheaded stuff too often... So the question is, will they be able to stop with this all of a sudden? Because i think if you're being honest with yourself you know that its just a matter of time before it catches up to them. Imo they win not win this playoff if they're making critical mistakes/turning the ball over. I think it catches up to them.
No question what you're saying is fair.... Last night they did a great job protecting the football...it was the stupid penalty's and such keeping UNC in the game.
I think Clemson is the most complete team of the 4.
I was gonna wait a little bit to post about this game vs Oklahoma coming up....But I will point out a few things to give a little teaser..
1) Oklahoma can NOT block that defensive line Clemson will put on the field.
2) Clemson has the best player in the country. I know they will probably give it Henry, but I think if you asked all division 1 coaches if they could pick one player to start there program with.....I would almost bet you 95% would take Watson.
3) Oklahoma has 2 TREMENDOUS running backs.... that is Oklahoma's chance to win the game, only chance.
4) Clemson defense is really talented and deep.... they are going through fatigue the last few games... they played 11 straight weeks. the Bye was very early in the season. this rest will be HUGE....
5) Clemson is the best team IMO, led by the best player IMO, with the best player being in the most important position on the field.
No question what you're saying is fair.... Last night they did a great job protecting the football...it was the stupid penalty's and such keeping UNC in the game.
I think Clemson is the most complete team of the 4.
I was gonna wait a little bit to post about this game vs Oklahoma coming up....But I will point out a few things to give a little teaser..
1) Oklahoma can NOT block that defensive line Clemson will put on the field.
2) Clemson has the best player in the country. I know they will probably give it Henry, but I think if you asked all division 1 coaches if they could pick one player to start there program with.....I would almost bet you 95% would take Watson.
3) Oklahoma has 2 TREMENDOUS running backs.... that is Oklahoma's chance to win the game, only chance.
4) Clemson defense is really talented and deep.... they are going through fatigue the last few games... they played 11 straight weeks. the Bye was very early in the season. this rest will be HUGE....
5) Clemson is the best team IMO, led by the best player IMO, with the best player being in the most important position on the field.
I agree that the break will benefit Clemson greatly, I have a ton of respect for OU's talent and think this is a great matchup, I had the line PK so suprised it opened at OU -3, up to 3.5 & 4 now, you going to wait to bet it or you going to bet it now? I don't see the line getting much better than +4 if you are going to bet clemson, just my opinion
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Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:
No question what you're saying is fair.... Last night they did a great job protecting the football...it was the stupid penalty's and such keeping UNC in the game.
I think Clemson is the most complete team of the 4.
I was gonna wait a little bit to post about this game vs Oklahoma coming up....But I will point out a few things to give a little teaser..
1) Oklahoma can NOT block that defensive line Clemson will put on the field.
2) Clemson has the best player in the country. I know they will probably give it Henry, but I think if you asked all division 1 coaches if they could pick one player to start there program with.....I would almost bet you 95% would take Watson.
3) Oklahoma has 2 TREMENDOUS running backs.... that is Oklahoma's chance to win the game, only chance.
4) Clemson defense is really talented and deep.... they are going through fatigue the last few games... they played 11 straight weeks. the Bye was very early in the season. this rest will be HUGE....
5) Clemson is the best team IMO, led by the best player IMO, with the best player being in the most important position on the field.
I agree that the break will benefit Clemson greatly, I have a ton of respect for OU's talent and think this is a great matchup, I had the line PK so suprised it opened at OU -3, up to 3.5 & 4 now, you going to wait to bet it or you going to bet it now? I don't see the line getting much better than +4 if you are going to bet clemson, just my opinion
So far it is the best thread you had all year, very informative, and a real discussion taking place about football. I have enjoyed reading all the comments.
SNITCHES end up being bitches, or end up with stitches, and in ditches! #REALITY
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So far it is the best thread you had all year, very informative, and a real discussion taking place about football. I have enjoyed reading all the comments.
I agree that the break will benefit Clemson greatly, I have a ton of respect for OU's talent and think this is a great matchup, I had the line PK so suprised it opened at OU -3, up to 3.5 & 4 now, you going to wait to bet it or you going to bet it now? I don't see the line getting much better than +4 if you are going to bet clemson, just my opinion
I really see no benefit to playing +3.5 or 4 from my stand point...
I think Clemson wins this game. So obviously my best value is Money line
Probably will play it tomorrow.... I'm seeing +145 or so?? Is that what you see?
I normally dont make early bowl bets. I like to wait damn near the day of....suspensions etc... But I like this game a lot obviously
on a side not... I personally think if Baylor would have stayed healthy...they would be among the final 4 and most likely win it. Baylor was the team all along I feared the most from a Clemson perspective.
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Quote Originally Posted by WahooS:
I agree that the break will benefit Clemson greatly, I have a ton of respect for OU's talent and think this is a great matchup, I had the line PK so suprised it opened at OU -3, up to 3.5 & 4 now, you going to wait to bet it or you going to bet it now? I don't see the line getting much better than +4 if you are going to bet clemson, just my opinion
I really see no benefit to playing +3.5 or 4 from my stand point...
I think Clemson wins this game. So obviously my best value is Money line
Probably will play it tomorrow.... I'm seeing +145 or so?? Is that what you see?
I normally dont make early bowl bets. I like to wait damn near the day of....suspensions etc... But I like this game a lot obviously
on a side not... I personally think if Baylor would have stayed healthy...they would be among the final 4 and most likely win it. Baylor was the team all along I feared the most from a Clemson perspective.
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I was just taking a few jabs... Hey it's my last thread. I got to have a little fun..
...But you're right.... Can't respond to the trolls
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