I thought I would write up my thoughts on why I am taking FIU +7. As always, counter arguments and thoughts about betting the other side are encouraged, it makes this forum a better place when we can have constructive conversation about the game from cappers who see it both ways. Congrats to those who took La Tech, it panned out how I thought it would. I hope I am seeing this game clearly as well....you never know.....
Now on to the write up:
As I have said before, in my opinion, motivation is a major deciding factor in bowl game performance. FIU is motivated as hell considering this is their first bowl game since 2011. They have a senior quarterback who is a complete stud and wants to end his college career with a bowl win in front of a pretty much home crowd. Temple, from what I have read has said they are motivated to win this bowl game for their seniors to go out as the winningest class in school history or something. Frank Nutile said this in a press conference I just watched. Motivation edge goes to FIU in my own opinion.
Now Temple has been peaking at the right time, going 3-1 in November and riding one hell of a wave. That streak also coincides with Nutile taking over at quarterback, his first start coming the game before the 3-1 (loss to UCF) streak which was a overtime loss against Army If you think that Temple is still riding that wave then play temple as they should have the advantage IF they still have hold of that very elusive momentum they built. That being said, its been a very long layoff since they last played. The Temple defense did regress this year from last year in yards allowed and points allowed per game. That being said they still have a hell of a D line that FIU must go up against. The FIU o-line can hold its own only giving up 22 sacks this season.
Now FIUs strength is in the passing game. The running game still holds it own averaging over 120 yards a game. Now they won't have their best offensive player, WR Thomas Owens, who missed the last 3 games with an injury as has decided not to play to remain healthy for the combine and to prepare for his NFL career. Even with their main weapon gone (Owens had twice as many targets as the next leading receiver) the FIU offense did not experience a drop off putting up 104 points combined over their last two games. Those games were against Western Kentucky and UMass which happen to both immediately proceed Temple in the power rankings.
The Temple Owls really struggle to defend the pass especially in the redzone where they were able to stop teams from getting points only 15% of the time. FIU on the other hand happens to have the nation's best redzone offense.
As I said above I put a lot of weight into motivation which I think FIU will have no problem with. They have a Veteran roster with a very good senior quarterback. They will show up at this game.
The question is, will Temple show up? Do you think they will still be riding their wave from November? Will they continue to peak through a few weeks off, through bowl prep, through travel down to Florida? If you think yes to those questions, then bet Temple. My answer to this is NO they will not. If they regress to how they played pre-november FIU will have no issue either winning outright or at the very least covering. Temple has a QB while playing good recently, has not started that many games vs. a very veteran savvy FIU QB playing his last game. Bottom line Temple struggles to defend the pass which is FIUs strength.
Butch Davis is a solid coach with a very good winning record in bowl games (5-2) who will have his team ready to go. GLTA
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I thought I would write up my thoughts on why I am taking FIU +7. As always, counter arguments and thoughts about betting the other side are encouraged, it makes this forum a better place when we can have constructive conversation about the game from cappers who see it both ways. Congrats to those who took La Tech, it panned out how I thought it would. I hope I am seeing this game clearly as well....you never know.....
Now on to the write up:
As I have said before, in my opinion, motivation is a major deciding factor in bowl game performance. FIU is motivated as hell considering this is their first bowl game since 2011. They have a senior quarterback who is a complete stud and wants to end his college career with a bowl win in front of a pretty much home crowd. Temple, from what I have read has said they are motivated to win this bowl game for their seniors to go out as the winningest class in school history or something. Frank Nutile said this in a press conference I just watched. Motivation edge goes to FIU in my own opinion.
Now Temple has been peaking at the right time, going 3-1 in November and riding one hell of a wave. That streak also coincides with Nutile taking over at quarterback, his first start coming the game before the 3-1 (loss to UCF) streak which was a overtime loss against Army If you think that Temple is still riding that wave then play temple as they should have the advantage IF they still have hold of that very elusive momentum they built. That being said, its been a very long layoff since they last played. The Temple defense did regress this year from last year in yards allowed and points allowed per game. That being said they still have a hell of a D line that FIU must go up against. The FIU o-line can hold its own only giving up 22 sacks this season.
Now FIUs strength is in the passing game. The running game still holds it own averaging over 120 yards a game. Now they won't have their best offensive player, WR Thomas Owens, who missed the last 3 games with an injury as has decided not to play to remain healthy for the combine and to prepare for his NFL career. Even with their main weapon gone (Owens had twice as many targets as the next leading receiver) the FIU offense did not experience a drop off putting up 104 points combined over their last two games. Those games were against Western Kentucky and UMass which happen to both immediately proceed Temple in the power rankings.
The Temple Owls really struggle to defend the pass especially in the redzone where they were able to stop teams from getting points only 15% of the time. FIU on the other hand happens to have the nation's best redzone offense.
As I said above I put a lot of weight into motivation which I think FIU will have no problem with. They have a Veteran roster with a very good senior quarterback. They will show up at this game.
The question is, will Temple show up? Do you think they will still be riding their wave from November? Will they continue to peak through a few weeks off, through bowl prep, through travel down to Florida? If you think yes to those questions, then bet Temple. My answer to this is NO they will not. If they regress to how they played pre-november FIU will have no issue either winning outright or at the very least covering. Temple has a QB while playing good recently, has not started that many games vs. a very veteran savvy FIU QB playing his last game. Bottom line Temple struggles to defend the pass which is FIUs strength.
Butch Davis is a solid coach with a very good winning record in bowl games (5-2) who will have his team ready to go. GLTA
Totally agree with your right up. Temple did end the season pretty hot but have had time to cool offense and their defense will be plenty tested tonight. Going with FIU here also . BOL!!
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Totally agree with your right up. Temple did end the season pretty hot but have had time to cool offense and their defense will be plenty tested tonight. Going with FIU here also . BOL!!
Write up is spot on all depends what Temple team comes out of that locker room but like you said the motivation edge is with FIU. Also I love that this game is being playing in Florida. With you on FIU.
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Write up is spot on all depends what Temple team comes out of that locker room but like you said the motivation edge is with FIU. Also I love that this game is being playing in Florida. With you on FIU.
I like the motivation angle but I don't think you can ride it this hard. The SMU game was an exception. I personally think Temple wins this game but 7 is a tricky number. Im not really impressed with FIU as you are.
FIU has an extremely mediocre (if that) passing game - average under 240 yards through the air, against the competition they have isn't a strength I want to rely on especially when temple only gives up 210 on average a game.
I also think vegas is telling is whos going to win this game. I think the line sitting at 7 for a home game with a 6-6 vs 8-4 team is what bothers me most. Temple could win by 20.
Good luck on your play.
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I like the motivation angle but I don't think you can ride it this hard. The SMU game was an exception. I personally think Temple wins this game but 7 is a tricky number. Im not really impressed with FIU as you are.
FIU has an extremely mediocre (if that) passing game - average under 240 yards through the air, against the competition they have isn't a strength I want to rely on especially when temple only gives up 210 on average a game.
I also think vegas is telling is whos going to win this game. I think the line sitting at 7 for a home game with a 6-6 vs 8-4 team is what bothers me most. Temple could win by 20.
I like the motivation angle but I don't think you can ride it this hard. The SMU game was an exception. I personally think Temple wins this game but 7 is a tricky number. Im not really impressed with FIU as you are.
FIU has an extremely mediocre (if that) passing game - average under 240 yards through the air, against the competition they have isn't a strength I want to rely on especially when temple only gives up 210 on average a game.
I also think vegas is telling is whos going to win this game. I think the line sitting at 7 for a home game with a 6-6 vs 8-4 team is what bothers me most. Temple could win by 20.
Good luck on your play.
I don't think Vegas cares who wins the game, they just set the line so as to get equal action on both sides. Most of the betting public has heard of Temple, not FIU, so that's who they are betting on! LOL
Did you see that butt-kicking FAU did the other day? FIU wants to get some of these recruits from Florida as well, I think they make a good showing! :)
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Quote Originally Posted by rewinds2k:
I like the motivation angle but I don't think you can ride it this hard. The SMU game was an exception. I personally think Temple wins this game but 7 is a tricky number. Im not really impressed with FIU as you are.
FIU has an extremely mediocre (if that) passing game - average under 240 yards through the air, against the competition they have isn't a strength I want to rely on especially when temple only gives up 210 on average a game.
I also think vegas is telling is whos going to win this game. I think the line sitting at 7 for a home game with a 6-6 vs 8-4 team is what bothers me most. Temple could win by 20.
Good luck on your play.
I don't think Vegas cares who wins the game, they just set the line so as to get equal action on both sides. Most of the betting public has heard of Temple, not FIU, so that's who they are betting on! LOL
Did you see that butt-kicking FAU did the other day? FIU wants to get some of these recruits from Florida as well, I think they make a good showing! :)
Never did I infer Vegas "cared" about anything. and public "hearing" of Temple is irrelevant. The public has no right betting on this game in the first place. They line they set can tell a lot more than one would think.
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Never did I infer Vegas "cared" about anything. and public "hearing" of Temple is irrelevant. The public has no right betting on this game in the first place. They line they set can tell a lot more than one would think.
Temple lost to UCONN. That's enough honestly enough information for me.
Also to rewinds2k - Temple averages 251 yards passing per game. Literally one first down. They also average 30 yards LESS rushing.
Not that any of that matters. All that matters is losing to Uconn.
I said nothing about Temples passing game either, it seems no one likes to actually read posts on here (kidding). I was merely speaking on the FIU passing game everyone loves so much on here that really isn't that good for FIU. From a numbers standpoint the FIU pass offense vs the Temple pass defense is in Temples advantage, and thats without the quality of competition which Temple wins as well. Good luck.
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Quote Originally Posted by CajunWF:
Temple lost to UCONN. That's enough honestly enough information for me.
Also to rewinds2k - Temple averages 251 yards passing per game. Literally one first down. They also average 30 yards LESS rushing.
Not that any of that matters. All that matters is losing to Uconn.
I said nothing about Temples passing game either, it seems no one likes to actually read posts on here (kidding). I was merely speaking on the FIU passing game everyone loves so much on here that really isn't that good for FIU. From a numbers standpoint the FIU pass offense vs the Temple pass defense is in Temples advantage, and thats without the quality of competition which Temple wins as well. Good luck.
Idk if its me but the Temple over under seems extremely high here. Them scoring 5 touchdowns when I only really like their running game normally seems like a stretch.They didnt score 30 vs. a team like UMASS. Tulsa, Cincy, ECU and Navy (all bottom barrel teams besides Navy) are the only teams they've scored 30+ against.
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Idk if its me but the Temple over under seems extremely high here. Them scoring 5 touchdowns when I only really like their running game normally seems like a stretch.They didnt score 30 vs. a team like UMASS. Tulsa, Cincy, ECU and Navy (all bottom barrel teams besides Navy) are the only teams they've scored 30+ against.
Does it worry you that money seems to be on FIU big, but the line hasn't moved? Makes me go hmmmmmm. I was leaning FIU (for all the reasons mentioned) but I wonder why vegas doesn't mind us taking that bet.
Both offenses seem to br rolling in the second half of the season. Think I'll go over instead of a side.
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Does it worry you that money seems to be on FIU big, but the line hasn't moved? Makes me go hmmmmmm. I was leaning FIU (for all the reasons mentioned) but I wonder why vegas doesn't mind us taking that bet.
Both offenses seem to br rolling in the second half of the season. Think I'll go over instead of a side.
Thanks everyone. I think the true motivation and the more experienced QB lay on the FIU side. Not to mention a savvy coach with a winning bowl record who will have his troops ready. Kick off approaching, lets make some money boys..
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Thanks everyone. I think the true motivation and the more experienced QB lay on the FIU side. Not to mention a savvy coach with a winning bowl record who will have his troops ready. Kick off approaching, lets make some money boys..
Regardless if this hits or not, it's good to see that there are some in here still that take the time to offer insight with their pick. I know the leaches just want the pick but imo it's always nice to hear the argument and supporting details behind the pick. Enjoy the game amigo and again thanks for taking the time here. Keep at it.
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Regardless if this hits or not, it's good to see that there are some in here still that take the time to offer insight with their pick. I know the leaches just want the pick but imo it's always nice to hear the argument and supporting details behind the pick. Enjoy the game amigo and again thanks for taking the time here. Keep at it.
Regardless if this hits or not, it's good to see that there are some in here still that take the time to offer insight with their pick. I know the leaches just want the pick but imo it's always nice to hear the argument and supporting details behind the pick. Enjoy the game amigo and again thanks for taking the time here. Keep at it.
Achilles
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Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:
Regardless if this hits or not, it's good to see that there are some in here still that take the time to offer insight with their pick. I know the leaches just want the pick but imo it's always nice to hear the argument and supporting details behind the pick. Enjoy the game amigo and again thanks for taking the time here. Keep at it.
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