Not that it means anything, but I had this game at anywhere from -1 to +1... turns out to be +14
Is this a fair line? Is it a case of Vegas knowing that the public LOVES OU. 14 points on the road within the Conference against a GOOD team...???
Something seems fishy...
OU just lost at home to T Tech, yet is a 2TD fav on the road against a solid undefeated KSU team. The public perception right now is to fade OU after last week's meltdown yet vegas is still giving away TDs. Think long about this one before you tie your money up
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Quote Originally Posted by johnk812:
Not that it means anything, but I had this game at anywhere from -1 to +1... turns out to be +14
Is this a fair line? Is it a case of Vegas knowing that the public LOVES OU. 14 points on the road within the Conference against a GOOD team...???
Something seems fishy...
OU just lost at home to T Tech, yet is a 2TD fav on the road against a solid undefeated KSU team. The public perception right now is to fade OU after last week's meltdown yet vegas is still giving away TDs. Think long about this one before you tie your money up
14 seems a hell of a lot closer than -1...assuming the standard that homefield is 3 points in each direction, you honestly believe OU is only 2 points better than KSU? Because of what? The fact that the slept on TTU and lost? Their talent is still the same, their ability is still the same, if anything, now they're woken the fuck up. I like KSU +14 but -1 is just ridiculous.
To your actual point of the thread...this line reminds me of last weekend's LSU line. 22 seemed like a sure thing to most, and didn't see too many LSU -22's out there. But Auburn couldn't move the ball nearly well enough to keep it close. I've only seen KSU once, last week. I guess the question is do you think KSU can keep the scoring pace they'll need to. Whether you think its a fishy line is a whole other issue altogether.
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14 seems a hell of a lot closer than -1...assuming the standard that homefield is 3 points in each direction, you honestly believe OU is only 2 points better than KSU? Because of what? The fact that the slept on TTU and lost? Their talent is still the same, their ability is still the same, if anything, now they're woken the fuck up. I like KSU +14 but -1 is just ridiculous.
To your actual point of the thread...this line reminds me of last weekend's LSU line. 22 seemed like a sure thing to most, and didn't see too many LSU -22's out there. But Auburn couldn't move the ball nearly well enough to keep it close. I've only seen KSU once, last week. I guess the question is do you think KSU can keep the scoring pace they'll need to. Whether you think its a fishy line is a whole other issue altogether.
I just think home field advantage in college football is HUGE, and I think Vegas reflects that train of thought for the most part.
LSU last weekend was an easy pick for me... whenever the media hypes up these huge programs losing studs for a game, people forget the other half of the story... this is LSU. They have 50 guys on the BENCH better than half the opposition's starters.
I never touch lines that don't make sense to me, so I'll probably read up on this before I bet it. But like I said in a prior post, these are KIDS. Kids who were told pre season how they were the best team in the country and they would make the 'ship and whatnot. Now they are all but out of the picture. Can you just shake that off and win a TOUGH road game by 14 against a team that is dripping with momentum and hunger, as corny as that may sound.
Still interested in everyone's opinions...
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I just think home field advantage in college football is HUGE, and I think Vegas reflects that train of thought for the most part.
LSU last weekend was an easy pick for me... whenever the media hypes up these huge programs losing studs for a game, people forget the other half of the story... this is LSU. They have 50 guys on the BENCH better than half the opposition's starters.
I never touch lines that don't make sense to me, so I'll probably read up on this before I bet it. But like I said in a prior post, these are KIDS. Kids who were told pre season how they were the best team in the country and they would make the 'ship and whatnot. Now they are all but out of the picture. Can you just shake that off and win a TOUGH road game by 14 against a team that is dripping with momentum and hunger, as corny as that may sound.
I have a feeling the KSU +14 is going to drop by game time. KSU has been a covering machine. I remember I took them as 14 point underdogs against Miami and they won outright. I have been playing them and LSU every week until they lose me money. On the other side, OU is still OU. After their loss to TT I'm afraid they will come out and manhandle KSU. I feel like KSU can score with OU. I will probably just take the Over in that game and enjoy the game.
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I have a feeling the KSU +14 is going to drop by game time. KSU has been a covering machine. I remember I took them as 14 point underdogs against Miami and they won outright. I have been playing them and LSU every week until they lose me money. On the other side, OU is still OU. After their loss to TT I'm afraid they will come out and manhandle KSU. I feel like KSU can score with OU. I will probably just take the Over in that game and enjoy the game.
I play teams I've seen with my own eyes. I went to Manhattan last year and the crowd wasn't that impressive for our game, but KSU was.
We didn't have Blackmon and a lot of OSU fans like to blame that for the lack of a huge victory. But truth be told, our defense won us that game 24-14.
KSU was just solid fundamentally on D inside the redzone. Often not out of position, good tackles, etc. I think their offense is a lot better this year.
I wouldn't play this game cause OU is firecracker, but I'd lean KSU and the points. Definitely shouldn't be a big play for anyone.
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Here is my opinion.
I play teams I've seen with my own eyes. I went to Manhattan last year and the crowd wasn't that impressive for our game, but KSU was.
We didn't have Blackmon and a lot of OSU fans like to blame that for the lack of a huge victory. But truth be told, our defense won us that game 24-14.
KSU was just solid fundamentally on D inside the redzone. Often not out of position, good tackles, etc. I think their offense is a lot better this year.
I wouldn't play this game cause OU is firecracker, but I'd lean KSU and the points. Definitely shouldn't be a big play for anyone.
johnk812, are you a bookie? If so, are you in Pittsburgh? And if so, I would love to take Oklahoma +1 (your line) for my house, car, dogs, fish, baby ball python, a leisure wardrobe, a couple of jerseys I think, and anything else I can find.
Thank you and God bless you for being such a philanthropist to so many in such harsh times.
And if you are not a bookie, Vegas needs to hire handicappers like you!
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johnk812, are you a bookie? If so, are you in Pittsburgh? And if so, I would love to take Oklahoma +1 (your line) for my house, car, dogs, fish, baby ball python, a leisure wardrobe, a couple of jerseys I think, and anything else I can find.
Thank you and God bless you for being such a philanthropist to so many in such harsh times.
And if you are not a bookie, Vegas needs to hire handicappers like you!
had OU somehow scored one more td against tech and still be ranked the #3 team in the country, would it still be fishy...
saturday afternoon will show case the true NC contender (OU) and expose the fraud (KSU)...
Snyder is coach of the year. KSU is a great story, but come on, dig a little deeper...if both these teams play close to their potential, who wins???
that's right, OU, by a mile...however, OU may have some chemistry issues, that will prevent a "full potential" type game. in that case KSU could cover and maybe win...I just don't see it...
in my opinion, the public is on KSU at +13-14...we'll see...
Quote Originally Posted by johnk812:
Not that it means anything, but I had this game at anywhere from -1 to +1... turns out to be +14
Is this a fair line? Is it a case of Vegas knowing that the public LOVES OU. 14 points on the road within the Conference against a GOOD team...???
Something seems fishy...
LonghornHoosier
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had OU somehow scored one more td against tech and still be ranked the #3 team in the country, would it still be fishy...
saturday afternoon will show case the true NC contender (OU) and expose the fraud (KSU)...
Snyder is coach of the year. KSU is a great story, but come on, dig a little deeper...if both these teams play close to their potential, who wins???
that's right, OU, by a mile...however, OU may have some chemistry issues, that will prevent a "full potential" type game. in that case KSU could cover and maybe win...I just don't see it...
in my opinion, the public is on KSU at +13-14...we'll see...
Quote Originally Posted by johnk812:
Not that it means anything, but I had this game at anywhere from -1 to +1... turns out to be +14
Is this a fair line? Is it a case of Vegas knowing that the public LOVES OU. 14 points on the road within the Conference against a GOOD team...???
I'm taking the 14 points but we saw what happened in the second half when Oklahoma woke up and actually started trying. This should be a very interesting game. Depends which Sooners squad shows up. I'm leaning a little closer to a defeated team that KSU punches right in the face.
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I'm taking the 14 points but we saw what happened in the second half when Oklahoma woke up and actually started trying. This should be a very interesting game. Depends which Sooners squad shows up. I'm leaning a little closer to a defeated team that KSU punches right in the face.
I'm taking the 14 points but we saw what happened in the second half when Oklahoma woke up and actually started trying. This should be a very interesting game. Depends which Sooners squad shows up. I'm leaning a little closer to a defeated team that KSU punches right in the face.
tgo
the difference between this game with KSU versus Tech and Kansas...OU will be awake from the getgo...and won't stop scoring until well until the 4th...
the KSU smartguy approach would work had OU soundly defeated Tech and Kansas....it won't work this week...
LonghornHoosier
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Quote Originally Posted by jdawgqn86:
I'm taking the 14 points but we saw what happened in the second half when Oklahoma woke up and actually started trying. This should be a very interesting game. Depends which Sooners squad shows up. I'm leaning a little closer to a defeated team that KSU punches right in the face.
tgo
the difference between this game with KSU versus Tech and Kansas...OU will be awake from the getgo...and won't stop scoring until well until the 4th...
the KSU smartguy approach would work had OU soundly defeated Tech and Kansas....it won't work this week...
What's OU's motivation now? Last week they were going for the NC...now what? I'm on KSU
do you think that is OU's only motivations..
Let's see
they win out
Big XII Championship
Fiesta Bowl Birth
Potential Top 5 finish
Its not likely, but if the planets allign, and there are a lot of one loss teams (like if every BCS Conference program loses at least 1 game, then they could still play for a NC. this is not likely at all, but you never know...yes, OU was a 29 point favorite at home against Tech, but the only thing that will be considered by the pc's and the voters in the final bowl would be a 3 point loss to Tech...
I'd say that is something to play for...
KSU has had a great season...by 7pm CST on Saturday, reality will set in ...
LonghornHoosier
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Quote Originally Posted by 2112:
What's OU's motivation now? Last week they were going for the NC...now what? I'm on KSU
do you think that is OU's only motivations..
Let's see
they win out
Big XII Championship
Fiesta Bowl Birth
Potential Top 5 finish
Its not likely, but if the planets allign, and there are a lot of one loss teams (like if every BCS Conference program loses at least 1 game, then they could still play for a NC. this is not likely at all, but you never know...yes, OU was a 29 point favorite at home against Tech, but the only thing that will be considered by the pc's and the voters in the final bowl would be a 3 point loss to Tech...
I'd say that is something to play for...
KSU has had a great season...by 7pm CST on Saturday, reality will set in ...
Can't think of k st qb name from top of my head but OU shut him down and that offense stops. DD home dog are very attractive...thread lightly k st backers.
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Can't think of k st qb name from top of my head but OU shut him down and that offense stops. DD home dog are very attractive...thread lightly k st backers.
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