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FriedShrimp

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 8:07 PM ET #226

LSU has a tough one ahead of them but these Boy Scouts are going down

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FriedShrimp

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 8:10 PM ET #227

Game recap will involve words like "Telepathic"............. How does Lee know where Ruben is all the time?

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 8:10 PM ET #228

It's easy to pad your stats when you play teams that can't move the ball for shit, and keeps handing it back to the opposing team.

One reason LSU doesn't put up huge yards per game like Bama, is because their defense and special team gives them great, short field position.

LSU defense has been scoring almost as much as their offense, decreasing their time of possession and offensive plays. Their special team and defense pins the opposing team inside their own 20 the majority of the time, and LSU ends up with a shorter field to play with. How much yards can they possibly put up, if they only have to move the ball 50-60yds per possession???

This is going to be a great game. But let's be real here, this Bama team has proven nothing, compare to Bama's team the last two years, who played a much tougher schedule.

You keep using the 500+yds West Virginia put on LSU defense as the "all I need to know" argument, and not once mentioned the game was out of hand already and LSU played soft defense.

But, somehow, Bama played one, apparently overrated Arkansas team, and that's the only argument needed. Alabama played one top 25 offensive team in Arkansas, a team who's prolific offense was literally shut down by Ole Miss and Vanderbilt, and was losing the majority of the game. How can anyone even use that as a measuring stick, to see how good one's team defense truly is.

I have no doubt that Bama's defense is the real deal, but please....don't talk like LSU hasn't proven anything. They've proven more than what the Tides have done, so far.

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FriedShrimp

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 8:14 PM ET #229

Quote Originally Posted by lsufasteddie:

Aside from the dominance in the trenches, the LSU defense as a unit is
one big, fast, mean, nasty, disruptive force. Of the 503 offensive
plays run against LSU, FORTY percent of those have ended in tackles
for loss, incompletions or turnovers. Think about it. How would your
day be if 40% of the things you did ended badly?

You didn't hear about LSU giving up 500 yards in West Virginia?

That dropped the defense a point or two in the defensive rankings.

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castorinho

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 8:20 PM ET #230

Quote Originally Posted by ryan8186:

No one comes close to Randle on Bama's team.

Maybe physically because this fella has brick hands and can't catch the fucking ball. OB Jr will probably turn out a better receiver than him.

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FriedShrimp

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 8:28 PM ET #231

LSU also has a TE........... Bama has zero chance of not doubling Ruben in this game. Which is gonna make him a decoy.......... But a still dangerous decoy. He's been doubled all year. Since week 1.

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FriedShrimp

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 9:21 PM ET #232

Yo Cappy............ When are you going to "rank" special teams?

Here is some rather disturbing punting data............

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Less than ONE YARD return on LSU punts. ... Only 1.4 returnable punts per game but still.

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FriedShrimp

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 9:27 PM ET #233

LSU has given up 7 (7) SEVEN punt return yards ALL YEAR.

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FriedShrimp

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 9:28 PM ET #234

Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

LSU has given up 7 (7) SEVEN punt return yards ALL YEAR.

Not sure that qualifies for some of your #1 Rankings.......... but that stat will never be sniffed ever in college football.

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 9:32 PM ET #235

Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

Not sure that qualifies for some of your #1 Rankings.......... but that stat will never be sniffed ever in college football.

When Chas Henry was punting for UF the last 3 years, like in 08 or 09 the Gators had ridiculous numbers on punts or didn't even give up a return for some absurd amount of time.

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 9:35 PM ET #236

LSU Red Zone Scoring (2011)

97.44%..... missed one in WV game.

TD 79.49%

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FriedShrimp

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 9:38 PM ET #237

BAMA Red Zone Scoring

85.37%

TD = 58.54%

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FriedShrimp

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 9:42 PM ET #238

Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:

When Chas Henry was punting for UF the last 3 years, like in 08 or 09 the Gators had ridiculous numbers on punts or didn't even give up a return for some absurd amount of time.

Holy Fuck......... Florida Punt Return Stats.........

2007 = 22 yards......... 5 RETURNABLE PUNTS

2008 = 78 yards (14 punts)

2009 = 21 yards......... 5 RETURNABLE PUNTS

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FriedShrimp

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 9:55 PM ET #239

Red zone Defense on paper looks bad for LSU............

LSU Defense 93.75% (vs Bama 67%)

BUT.......... 56% TDs which is basically same as BAma.

%s are deceiving tho........... LSU hasn't allowed more than 11 points to an SEC team (allowed 11 vs Florida)...... (vs Bama high of 14 in Arky game)

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 9:56 PM ET #240

That punting is a huge stat.............. basically says dominating field position.

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 10:04 PM ET #241

Am slowly talking myself into the Tigers

On Monday was sure LSU was a sucker bet. Thinking at the end of the day, LSU won't be able to stop the Bama/Trent rush.

Now I'm actually starting to think LSU has a "chance"

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FriedShrimp

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 10:05 PM ET #242

Do not think this will be a close game............. Either LSU contains it or not. If contain it......... LSU rolls them. If not, LSU gets rolled.

No close game here.

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Posted: Nov. 2, 2011 - 11:28 PM ET #243

kroch-

Not sure how you can think an offensive shootout is better than a physical defensive battle- i do know that Bama or LSU would win against Stanford- they are much too physical- Pac 12 football is all about offense and no defense- Defense wins championships and Alabama and LSU play the best defense in the country- Luck is great but who knows what he would do at LSU- hard to tell- it would change everything on their offense- but he isn't so that is a moot point-

I can't wait for this game- just seems hard to not take the points and i think it goes over as well

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Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 9:27 AM ET #244

Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

Game recap will involve words like "Telepathic"............. How does Lee know where Ruben is all the time?

Our secondary = the toughest task those two have faced yet, and that magic will fade. Not saying they won't do well at times, but they are gonna have to work for it!

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Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 9:34 AM ET #245

Quote Originally Posted by Warblade:

It's easy to pad your stats when you play teams that can't move the ball for shit, and keeps handing it back to the opposing team.

One reason LSU doesn't put up huge yards per game like Bama, is because their defense and special team gives them great, short field position.

LSU defense has been scoring almost as much as their offense, decreasing their time of possession and offensive plays. Their special team and defense pins the opposing team inside their own 20 the majority of the time, and LSU ends up with a shorter field to play with. How much yards can they possibly put up, if they only have to move the ball 50-60yds per possession???

This is going to be a great game. But let's be real here, this Bama team has proven nothing, compare to Bama's team the last two years, who played a much tougher schedule.

You keep using the 500+yds West Virginia put on LSU defense as the "all I need to know" argument, and not once mentioned the game was out of hand already and LSU played soft defense.

But, somehow, Bama played one, apparently overrated Arkansas team, and that's the only argument needed. Alabama played one top 25 offensive team in Arkansas, a team who's prolific offense was literally shut down by Ole Miss and Vanderbilt, and was losing the majority of the game. How can anyone even use that as a measuring stick, to see how good one's team defense truly is.

I have no doubt that Bama's defense is the real deal, but please....don't talk like LSU hasn't proven anything. They've proven more than what the Tides have done, so far.

Oh hey man, trust me... LSU is the real deal, and I am fully aware of that... I have stated in several of my posts that I have concearns in areas of this game.

Fact - I think we have an advantage with running the ball, and also stopping then run...

Fact - I think LSU has a clear advantage with the passing game, and it is going to cause major issues for Bama. This could even take pressure off the run, and cause ever more issues.

Fact - LSU has amazing special teams, and it could play a major role in the field position battle...

Fact - Playing at BD stadium will be a factor that swings in Bama's favor...

Fact - Les Miles and Nick Saban are 2-2 against each other... The last time LSU came to BD they lost... This same team is still on the field from that loss they suffered, they are playing for that game, and they are playing for this community, they are also playing for their coach during his birthday week. Nick Saban is 14-1 in revenge games.

Take what you will from that

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Quote Originally Posted by Warblade:

It's easy to pad your stats when you play teams that can't move the ball for shit, and keeps handing it back to the opposing team.

One reason LSU doesn't put up huge yards per game like Bama, is because their defense and special team gives them great, short field position.

LSU defense has been scoring almost as much as their offense, decreasing their time of possession and offensive plays. Their special team and defense pins the opposing team inside their own 20 the majority of the time, and LSU ends up with a shorter field to play with. How much yards can they possibly put up, if they only have to move the ball 50-60yds per possession???

This is going to be a great game. But let's be real here, this Bama team has proven nothing, compare to Bama's team the last two years, who played a much tougher schedule.

You keep using the 500+yds West Virginia put on LSU defense as the "all I need to know" argument, and not once mentioned the game was out of hand already and LSU played soft defense.

But, somehow, Bama played one, apparently overrated Arkansas team, and that's the only argument needed. Alabama played one top 25 offensive team in Arkansas, a team who's prolific offense was literally shut down by Ole Miss and Vanderbilt, and was losing the majority of the game. How can anyone even use that as a measuring stick, to see how good one's team defense truly is.

I have no doubt that Bama's defense is the real deal, but please....don't talk like LSU hasn't proven anything. They've proven more than what the Tides have done, so far.

Oh hey man, trust me... LSU is the real deal, and I am fully aware of that... I have stated in several of my posts that I have concearns in areas of this game.

Fact - I think we have an advantage with running the ball, and also stopping then run...

Fact - I think LSU has a clear advantage with the passing game, and it is going to cause major issues for Bama. This could even take pressure off the run, and cause ever more issues.

Fact - LSU has amazing special teams, and it could play a major role in the field position battle...

Fact - Playing at BD stadium will be a factor that swings in Bama's favor...

Fact - Les Miles and Nick Saban are 2-2 against each other... The last time LSU came to BD they lost... This same team is still on the field from that loss they suffered, they are playing for that game, and they are playing for this community, they are also playing for their coach during his birthday week. Nick Saban is 14-1 in revenge games.

Take what you will from that

Tappy

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Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 9:37 AM ET #246

Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

LSU also has a TE........... Bama has zero chance of not doubling Ruben in this game. Which is gonna make him a decoy.......... But a still dangerous decoy. He's been doubled all year. Since week 1.

You are very wrong... At times he will be doubled, but we do a lot of corner blitzes, and that will put our safeties in man coverage.

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ryan8186

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Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 9:37 AM ET #247

Those are all opinions not facts my friend.

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Tappy

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Posted: Nov. 3, 2011 - 9:39 AM ET #248

Quote Originally Posted by FriedShrimp:

Yo Cappy............ When are you going to "rank" special teams?

Here is some rather disturbing punting data............

Link

Less than ONE YARD return on LSU punts. ... Only 1.4 returnable punts per game but still.

I have said LSU has a clear advantage with the kicking game. It all depends on field position though... If he is punting from his own 20, or 30 then it won't make a difference. Maze is also a beast when returning punts...