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Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 2:14 PM ET #26

Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

I love this spot for Michigan. Michigan showing that they have been "struggling" the first two games yet they won with ease. Did they cover? Nope. They are 0-2 ATS. Harbaugh is the type of guy who picks his spots and he is a master motivator; probably a top 3 in all of college. Why is this important for this game? Purdue looks good right? They have played two solid games thus far and are getting 10 at home? Seems like a no brainer huh?I will say this: if you don't think harbaugh, the staff and the players aren't going to be ready for this game, you all are nuts. Keep sleeping on this Michigan team. Keep thinking their offense can't put up points. Just wait. Speight will get it together this week and watch out for that running game. Were you expecting Michigan to blow both teams out so far? They are 2-0 and in a conference game, it's time to rock and roll. I think Michigan wins by 20 tomorrow and I think we see their offense shut a lot of people up. As for the defense, I'm not sure if I've seen too many so far that are better. If Purdue can't run tomorrow, it will be a massacre and harbaugh knows that. I love their coaching and in this type of game, it weighs heavily. I will be slamming Michigan in this spot and expect them to get their first ATS win this season.

Spot on. I could not agree more.

Histrionic personality disorder. It's sad

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Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 2:20 PM ET #27

Achilles... Purdue just shut dowdown , prior to that game, one of the best QBs in the nation... Speight is going to get humiliated. I'm still not sure why so many people think Michigan is good. They have done absolutely nothing this season that says they are a good football team.

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Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 2:33 PM ET #28

Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:

Achilles... Purdue just shut dowdown , prior to that game, one of the best QBs in the nation... Speight is going to get humiliated. I'm still not sure why so many people think Michigan is good. They have done absolutely nothing this season that says they are a good football team.

It seems that the pick 6s have flooded your mind and rightfully so. It also seems as if Purdue beating an overrated qb has as well. Michigan hasn't done anything good this year? How many points have they given up on average per game? How is their second half defense looking? Have they even attempted to stay with the run? Their defense and their special teams looks great but again, like so many on here, you want to focus on the interceptions. Any praise for halftime adjustments? You best who theynoutnin front of you yet you want harbaugh to blow teams out. He doesn't do that often but he knows his spots. You act as is Air Force was a bad team. You act as if Florida was bad? How many consecutive home openers had Florida won before losing to Michigan? Sure, Air Force was one dimensional but they had won 7 straight games. They are well coached too. After one play early in the second half, what did Air Force do the rest of the way? Nothing. Harbaugh plays the "game within the game" and has laid over many times already as a coach. Look at the Ohio state game last year and then look at the bowl game. You pay the piper buddy but in return you get to put the pedal to medal too. The first two games they did just enough to not cover and are now 0-2 ATS. Ask yourself this buddy: 10 points, at home, off an impressive beatdown of in your eyes, supposedly the greatest qb that's ever lived....where you putting your money? Go ahead and feel comfortable with those 10 tomorrow....You focus too much on what's on the surface. Harbaugh will be ready as will his team to put the hurt on Purdue.

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Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 2:38 PM ET #29

Michigan state on deck next week....you think harbaugh will putts around allowing Purdue to hand around late? They can't afford to have another ok showing on offense especially with the rivalry game on deck. I fully expect Michigan to be undefeated going into penn state on October 21. We see a different offense come tomorrow.

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Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 2:56 PM ET #30

Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:

Achilles... Purdue just shut dowdown , prior to that game, one of the best QBs in the nation... Speight is going to get humiliated. I'm still not sure why so many people think Michigan is good. They have done absolutely nothing this season that says they are a good football team.

He beat down the perennial powerhouse Missouri St and then went 14--32 with 245 1 td and 2 INT against SC and then was awful against Purdue.

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Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 3:07 PM ET #31

Michigan dominated Florida but somehow beating Mizzou is more impressive

Same Mizzou that also got trashed by SC?

This is typical ovearreaction of what people just saw. Purdue looked great against an overhyped team while Michigan struggled to beat an option team by 16 points. When teams are not used to play against an option team they struggle, those are always bad spots, it's a fact, it usually happens.

Purdue is on the right track with Jeff Brohm but they are obviously not there yet, it takes time. I don't see how they can put 20+ points on michigan's D.

I have this and Cal as bubble burst games of teams that have looked good but the rebuilding takes time and they are not ready to hang with the big boys out of nowhere in one year.

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Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 3:38 PM ET #32

Quote Originally Posted by BayAreaVic:

Michigan dominated Florida but somehow beating Mizzou is more impressive

Same Mizzou that also got trashed by SC?

Purdue is on the right track with Jeff Brohm but they are obviously not there yet, it takes time. I don't see how they can put 20+ points on michigan's D.

I have this and Cal as bubble burst games of teams that have looked good but the rebuilding takes time and they are not ready to hang with the big boys out of nowhere in one year.

Totally agree here. The idea that Michigan can dominate both teams yet have no consistent offense can be looked at one of two ways. 1. Their defense will break down. 2. The offense starts clicking. Now in this game tomorrow, I do not see the defense taking a step back. If anything, I see the defense being up for the challenge for a full 60 minutes on the road. And as for the offense, this Michigan team has all the tools to be an above average offense. The two best teams in the country have ok offenses yet nobody talks about them. Why?

I like speight and I like the two headed monster at running back along with their good offensive line. Do not be surprised if Michigan lines up tomorrow and slings it all across the field and then late puts Purdue to bed with the ground and pound game. Nobody would expect that would they?! If Michigan weren't 0-2 ATS, I wouldn't feel as good about them stomping a mud hole in purdues a$$es and I love the fact that people keep talking up Purdue and thinking Michigan is overrated. Love that.

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Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 3:54 PM ET #33

Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:

These teams are up for debate, but this is how I see the top 10 and these are some thoughts on some other teams.

1. Bama – Until they lose, they are the best team in the nation… We needed a cupcake team for our new OC and our offense. Hurts was impressive, 14/18 282 and 3 TDs, his passing game is improving and our backfield is stacked. Nobody wants to tackle Najee Harris.

2. Oklahoma – What else can you say about the amazing performance they put up against Ohio State. Baker Mayfield has a real shot at the Heisman this year, and I believe they will make it to the playoffs. I would love to see them play Bama. They are playing better than anyone right now.

3. Penn St - Is officially on my radar, they are a damn good team. I think the winner of them and Michigan will determine the Big Ten, Michigan has my vote.

4. Gotta put FSU here, even though they did not play this week. They still have an amazing defense and I think they will do fine with their new QB.

5. USC – I needed to see how they would do after week 1 and I was impressed.

6. Washington – They are playing really good football right now.

7. Michigan – I was skeptical about them, but they are a really good football team with a solid defense and good offense. They are my favorite to win the Big Ten.

8. Louisville - Really good game against NC, Lamar Jackson looked great.

This is the common perception it seems on the Michigan team. First week everyone talking about how Florida is going to destroy them. Once they dominate that game everyone jumps on the bandwagon and has them winning the Big Ten and then after AF and Cincy everyone is back to saying how terrible they are. The red zone is definitely a concern but realistic people knew it was going to take a few games to get this offense going with the young receivers. Speight knows he needs to come out and perform well this game and now that conference play is here the playbook is going to open up a little more. I just laugh at how everyone goes from one end of the spectrum to the other with this team each week.

Quote Originally Posted by Tappy:

These teams are up for debate, but this is how I see the top 10 and these are some thoughts on some other teams.

3. Penn St - Is officially on my radar, they are a damn good team. I think the winner of them and Michigan will determine the Big Ten, Michigan has my vote.

4. Gotta put FSU here, even though they did not play this week. They still have an amazing defense and I think they will do fine with their new QB.

5. USC – I needed to see how they would do after week 1 and I was impressed.

6. Washington – They are playing really good football right now.

7. Michigan – I was skeptical about them, but they are a really good football team with a solid defense and good offense. They are my favorite to win the Big Ten.

8. Louisville - Really good game against NC, Lamar Jackson looked great.

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Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 3:58 PM ET #34

Quote Originally Posted by ObiWon:

I've been on them all year amigo. I expect the offense to get better and I think it starts tomorrow.

ObiWon

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Posted: Sep. 22, 2017 - 4:08 PM ET #35

Quote Originally Posted by Achilles1629:

I've been on them all year amigo. I expect the offense to get better and I think it starts tomorrow.

Wasn't referring to you, I can see that you follow them pretty close. Just talking about a few guys in this thread that go from they suck to they're champs to the suck in a matter of 3 games.

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