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    MISSOURI @ PURDUE 9/15/18: After months of research, this is the single BEST LOOKAHEAD LINE I capped

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    Lookahead lines. All the value lies in them IF you want to lay a bet early to get paid later (a disciplined approach).

    Because when you get to the actual game, the spread is likely to be drastically different.

    What is Purdue this year in terms of wins and losses? Average. Vegas has them at 6.

    Why six after a godsend of a bowl win and seven last year?

    Two reasons:

    1. Their schedule is tougher.

    The NCAA has them as the 23rd toughest in terms of opponents 2017 win %'s. 

    But don't trust them. Trust Phil Steele. Based on his power rankings and projected WL's (a far better metric) he has them at the SECOND toughest schedule in the nation. 

    So that means this will be a bumpy road for Purdue.

    Add to that there are a SLEW of defensive defections. Only FOUR returning starters.

    This team needs a defense. They didn't even know how to TACKLE under Hazell.

    That is why Brohm is a miracle worker. He maximizes Purdue's potential.

    BUT he can only work his magic so much. And Mizzou is NOT the spot to do it against.

    Pound for pound if you stack up Drew Lock, the experience and Mizzou's offense against against Purdue with the Sindelar and Blough combo at QB + a strong (but oft injured) RB core, with some decent receivers the answer is clear: Mizzou's offense wins out every time. Add in a quality 96 starts for the O-Line to protect Lock. 

    And because of all Purdue's defections on defense, Mizzou is a clear winner on that side of the ball with 7 returning starters and depth Linebacker, DB and special teams.

    And after all this, Purdue's win AT Missouri last year REALLY opened the floodgates on a season that was about to turn into a disaster. It was a game they are not too soon to forget.

    The revenge factor, however cliche, rears its ugly head here for a repeat performance at home for Purdue, except this time it will be against them ( and against a team with very little 'home field advantage').

    Brohm will throw the kitchen sink at them with all the tricks he has up his sleeve but a gimmick offense, and he will have them kicking and screaming as they go down. But Purdue will be a team that will likely just try to control the bleeding here against an angry Mizzou O spells a loss with a great line.

    Missouri -2.5 over Purdue
    (I moved my site's line with some big bets from -1)

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    With the second toughest schedule in the nation, a year of tape on Brohm's tricks, and no clear path that I see to 7, I see Purdue going into the Old Oaken Bucket game (a VERY tough game to win) on the road in Indiana for a bowl in a revenge game and a game Indy always gets up for, and a coin flip game they can lose and that will only push this bet.

    Purdue under 6 wins (-130)
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    Lookahead lines. All the value lies in them IF you want to lay a bet early to get paid later (a disciplined approach).

    Because when you get to the actual game, the spread is likely to be drastically different.

    What is Purdue this year in terms of wins and losses? Average. Vegas has them at 6.

    Why six after a godsend of a bowl win and seven last year?

    Two reasons:

    1. Their schedule is tougher.

    The NCAA has them as the 23rd toughest in terms of opponents 2017 win %'s. 

    But don't trust them. Trust Phil Steele. Based on his power rankings and projected WL's (a far better metric) he has them at the SECOND toughest schedule in the nation. 

    So that means this will be a bumpy road for Purdue.

    Add to that there are a SLEW of defensive defections. Only FOUR returning starters.

    This team needs a defense. They didn't even know how to TACKLE under Hazell.

    That is why Brohm is a miracle worker. He maximizes Purdue's potential.

    BUT he can only work his magic so much. And Mizzou is NOT the spot to do it against.

    Pound for pound if you stack up Drew Lock, the experience and Mizzou's offense against against Purdue with the Sindelar and Blough combo at QB + a strong (but oft injured) RB core, with some decent receivers the answer is clear: Mizzou's offense wins out every time. Add in a quality 96 starts for the O-Line to protect Lock. 

    And because of all Purdue's defections on defense, Mizzou is a clear winner on that side of the ball with 7 returning starters and depth Linebacker, DB and special teams.

    And after all this, Purdue's win AT Missouri last year REALLY opened the floodgates on a season that was about to turn into a disaster. It was a game they are not too soon to forget.

    The revenge factor, however cliche, rears its ugly head here for a repeat performance at home for Purdue, except this time it will be against them ( and against a team with very little 'home field advantage').

    Brohm will throw the kitchen sink at them with all the tricks he has up his sleeve but a gimmick offense, and he will have them kicking and screaming as they go down. But Purdue will be a team that will likely just try to control the bleeding here against an angry Mizzou O spells a loss with a great line.

    Missouri -2.5 over Purdue
    (I moved my site's line with some big bets from -1)

    +
    With the second toughest schedule in the nation, a year of tape on Brohm's tricks, and no clear path that I see to 7, I see Purdue going into the Old Oaken Bucket game (a VERY tough game to win) on the road in Indiana for a bowl in a revenge game and a game Indy always gets up for, and a coin flip game they can lose and that will only push this bet.

    Purdue under 6 wins (-130)
     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 12:39 AM ET #2

    Trust Phil Steele? Lol. Are you serious? Seen his record of late? He puts out a nice preview magazine for information purposes only. Please don't use his prognostications
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    Trust Phil Steele? Lol. Are you serious? Seen his record of late? He puts out a nice preview magazine for information purposes only. Please don't use his prognostications
     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 1:02 AM ET #3

    I trust the metric, not the man. The metric speaks for itself...
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    I trust the metric, not the man. The metric speaks for itself...
     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 9:58 AM ET #4

    Good writeup, Scal.  Hope it hits for you.  
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    Good writeup, Scal.  Hope it hits for you.  
     
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    Thanks and I hope it hits for you too!

    You should play it. NOW not later!
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    Thanks and I hope it hits for you too!

    You should play it. NOW not later!
     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 11:51 AM ET #6

    thanks for the analysis as always. BTW which book offers lookahead lines or is there a book in Jersey/Vegas that offers this?
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    thanks for the analysis as always. BTW which book offers lookahead lines or is there a book in Jersey/Vegas that offers this?
     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 12:08 PM ET #7

    5Dimes has TONS of them
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    5Dimes has TONS of them
     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 1:34 PM ET #8

    Not really sure the value of betting a game 3 weeks before they play. It's like betting early on bowl games. Yes the line might favor you're opinion but how can you ignore possible injuries and/or suspensions. Let's assume both teams are healthy and Purdue starts off 0-2 and Mizzou is 2-0, the line will still most probably not be more than Mizzou laying more than 3. Do you actually think the line would ever get to 6 or 7. These aren't Gary Pinkels tigers anymore. What have they done under coach Odom to think the line would go so much higher, that you would ignore the injury factor in order to get this current line?

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    Not really sure the value of betting a game 3 weeks before they play. It's like betting early on bowl games. Yes the line might favor you're opinion but how can you ignore possible injuries and/or suspensions. Let's assume both teams are healthy and Purdue starts off 0-2 and Mizzou is 2-0, the line will still most probably not be more than Mizzou laying more than 3. Do you actually think the line would ever get to 6 or 7. These aren't Gary Pinkels tigers anymore. What have they done under coach Odom to think the line would go so much higher, that you would ignore the injury factor in order to get this current line?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakecece:

    Not really sure the value of betting a game 3 weeks before they play. It's like betting early on bowl games. Yes the line might favor you're opinion but how can you ignore possible injuries and/or suspensions. Let's assume both teams are healthy and Purdue starts off 0-2 and Mizzou is 2-0, the line will still most probably not be more than Mizzou laying more than 3. Do you actually think the line would ever get to 6 or 7. These aren't Gary Pinkels tigers anymore. What have they done under coach Odom to think the line would go so much higher, that you would ignore the injury factor in order to get this current line?


    Disagree Brother ...Every year i pound the preseason goy lines ...Often get a 4-10 point window to middle , hedge or let it ride 
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakecece:

    Not really sure the value of betting a game 3 weeks before they play. It's like betting early on bowl games. Yes the line might favor you're opinion but how can you ignore possible injuries and/or suspensions. Let's assume both teams are healthy and Purdue starts off 0-2 and Mizzou is 2-0, the line will still most probably not be more than Mizzou laying more than 3. Do you actually think the line would ever get to 6 or 7. These aren't Gary Pinkels tigers anymore. What have they done under coach Odom to think the line would go so much higher, that you would ignore the injury factor in order to get this current line?


    Disagree Brother ...Every year i pound the preseason goy lines ...Often get a 4-10 point window to middle , hedge or let it ride 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 1:56 PM ET #10

    Net Net are you profitable betting early lines? Is the risk worth the reward? I'm just trying to see the plus side. Yes if you get a nice spread playing a middle is intriguing but hedging is a net loss. 

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    Net Net are you profitable betting early lines? Is the risk worth the reward? I'm just trying to see the plus side. Yes if you get a nice spread playing a middle is intriguing but hedging is a net loss. 

     
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    Jake there is great reward in playing lookahead lines.

    I can’t tell you how many unbelievablely good lines I’ve gotten weeks and even months before they are played.

    This is an info based market. When the game approaches the info on all previous games and injuries and suspensions and feel for the team will be known.

    And what I know is Mizzou is foaming at the mouth for this one, circled in tiger blood on their schedule.

    Of course there can be injuries but if you think like that you’ll never play a meaningful future given all the unknowns that can occur.

    Lines become too sharp at Game Week.

    Give me Mizzou laying a spread that can only push if Mizzou wins the game every day of the week.

    Last year I bet Purdue -1 to beat Indiana in week one! Paid of beautifully!
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    Jake there is great reward in playing lookahead lines.

    I can’t tell you how many unbelievablely good lines I’ve gotten weeks and even months before they are played.

    This is an info based market. When the game approaches the info on all previous games and injuries and suspensions and feel for the team will be known.

    And what I know is Mizzou is foaming at the mouth for this one, circled in tiger blood on their schedule.

    Of course there can be injuries but if you think like that you’ll never play a meaningful future given all the unknowns that can occur.

    Lines become too sharp at Game Week.

    Give me Mizzou laying a spread that can only push if Mizzou wins the game every day of the week.

    Last year I bet Purdue -1 to beat Indiana in week one! Paid of beautifully!
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Jake there is great reward in playing lookahead lines.I can’t tell you how many unbelievablely good lines I’ve gotten weeks and even months before they are played.This is an info based market. When the game approaches the info on all previous games and injuries and suspensions and feel for the team will be known.And what I know is Mizzou is foaming at the mouth for this one, circled in tiger blood on their schedule.Of course there can be injuries but if you think like that you’ll never play a meaningful future given all the unknowns that can occur.Lines become too sharp at Game Week.Give me Mizzou laying a spread that can only push if Mizzou wins the game every day of the week.Last year I bet Purdue -1 to beat Indiana in week one! Paid of beautifully!

    The line at game time of Purdue vs Indiana was -2. So betting early wasn't advantageous. I understand the methodology of betting early I'm just gauging the risk/reward factor. Does anyone have an example where the line at kickoff was much different than if you played it early?

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Jake there is great reward in playing lookahead lines.I can’t tell you how many unbelievablely good lines I’ve gotten weeks and even months before they are played.This is an info based market. When the game approaches the info on all previous games and injuries and suspensions and feel for the team will be known.And what I know is Mizzou is foaming at the mouth for this one, circled in tiger blood on their schedule.Of course there can be injuries but if you think like that you’ll never play a meaningful future given all the unknowns that can occur.Lines become too sharp at Game Week.Give me Mizzou laying a spread that can only push if Mizzou wins the game every day of the week.Last year I bet Purdue -1 to beat Indiana in week one! Paid of beautifully!

    The line at game time of Purdue vs Indiana was -2. So betting early wasn't advantageous. I understand the methodology of betting early I'm just gauging the risk/reward factor. Does anyone have an example where the line at kickoff was much different than if you played it early?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by jakecece:

    Net Net are you profitable betting early lines? Is the risk worth the reward? I'm just trying to see the plus side. Yes if you get a nice spread playing a middle is intriguing but hedging is a net loss. 



    Yes Brother , i have done well betting these over the last 7 years ...have 11 posted this season .   

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=33&sub=103255944

    ..looking add a few more ..

    I strongly urge anyone to bet Preseason GOY lines 


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    Quote Originally Posted by jakecece:

    Net Net are you profitable betting early lines? Is the risk worth the reward? I'm just trying to see the plus side. Yes if you get a nice spread playing a middle is intriguing but hedging is a net loss. 



    Yes Brother , i have done well betting these over the last 7 years ...have 11 posted this season .   

    https://www.covers.com/postingforum/POST01/showmessage.aspx?spt=33&sub=103255944

    ..looking add a few more ..

    I strongly urge anyone to bet Preseason GOY lines 


     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 3:33 PM ET #14

    Jake, that line happened to rise and fall during the year just like a mortgage interest rate and mine was locked in, and it got as high as -2.5 on GameDay and I didn’t like that number.

    But the bankroll management aspect, that is, having the bet in and not worrying about all the fluctuations during the year, gives you piece of mind and instills discipline in addition to not having to cap the game in week 12 and thereby devoting mental resources to other games that week.

    Double showed how the lines differ to.

    If you look at the lines out now, they matter.
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    Jake, that line happened to rise and fall during the year just like a mortgage interest rate and mine was locked in, and it got as high as -2.5 on GameDay and I didn’t like that number.

    But the bankroll management aspect, that is, having the bet in and not worrying about all the fluctuations during the year, gives you piece of mind and instills discipline in addition to not having to cap the game in week 12 and thereby devoting mental resources to other games that week.

    Double showed how the lines differ to.

    If you look at the lines out now, they matter.
     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 4:14 PM ET #15

    Hey SCAL

     

    Any opinion on Purdue -2.5 over N.W. @Purdue in week 1?          (NW QB Thorson will start)

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    Hey SCAL

     

    Any opinion on Purdue -2.5 over N.W. @Purdue in week 1?          (NW QB Thorson will start)

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 6:02 PM ET #16

    an_cheers

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    an_cheers

     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 7:13 PM ET #17

    SCAL, thanks man! Will look at this one. 

    Here’s one for you: 

    Coastal Carolina +30 vs South Carolina. 

    I have CC in this one. Click my profile and you’ll see my write up on it. 
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    SCAL, thanks man! Will look at this one. 

    Here’s one for you: 

    Coastal Carolina +30 vs South Carolina. 

    I have CC in this one. Click my profile and you’ll see my write up on it. 
     
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    Posted: Aug. 27, 2018 - 7:47 PM ET #18

    Where are you guys placing these week 3 bets?
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    Where are you guys placing these week 3 bets?
     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2018 - 8:28 PM ET #19

    Missouri -7.5 at my book..new_rolling_eyes

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    Missouri -7.5 at my book..new_rolling_eyes

     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2018 - 9:03 PM ET #20

    Great early grab Scal. 

    Opened at -7.5 out here in Vegas. I would of hit it at -7 or lower. Now I'm going to watch and see where it goes, check weather, etc.


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    Great early grab Scal. 

    Opened at -7.5 out here in Vegas. I would of hit it at -7 or lower. Now I'm going to watch and see where it goes, check weather, etc.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2018 - 9:24 PM ET #21

    Well done Brother an_praise

     

    Love betting the Preseason goy lines 

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    Well done Brother an_praise

     

    Love betting the Preseason goy lines 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 9, 2018 - 9:46 PM ET #22

    Nice work, Scal!  

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    Nice work, Scal!  

     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2018 - 7:48 AM ET #23

    Thank you!

    Now let’s just bring this baby home at the lookahead line!
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    Thank you!

    Now let’s just bring this baby home at the lookahead line!
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2018 - 9:59 AM ET #24

    Opinion on - 7  ?

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    Opinion on - 7  ?

     
     
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    Posted: Sep. 10, 2018 - 10:56 AM ET #25

    I’d love to help ya on that one playaaa.

    But I wanted to make this post before the season started so we all got in before the spread floodgates opened.

    But I do understand not everyone has what 5Dimes lookahead lines
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    I’d love to help ya on that one playaaa.

    But I wanted to make this post before the season started so we all got in before the spread floodgates opened.

    But I do understand not everyone has what 5Dimes lookahead lines
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