This game is interesting... The line is SCar -11 or -12 with a total of 60... Game is in Columbia and everyone expects SCar to win... When you think of SCar you immediately think of Clowney and the hit against Mich... SCar also has a lot of preseason hype with people predicting 10+ wins and possibly a spot in the SECCG... Well with all of that hype, being at home, and possibly the most dynamic defensive player in college football, you'd think SCar would be favored by a little more than 11-12... and with the total being 60 or around there it tells me that Vegas expects UNC to put up points... An interesting point... This isn't the first team Fedora has brought to Columbia to open the season... SCar throttled USM 41-13 in 2010... This time he has better talent... Will UNC pull the upset? Probably not, but SCar has 2 big conference games on deck: @UGA, Vandy, that in the big picture are bigger games... I predict this game to be somewhere around 34-28 or 38-30... Can easily see UNC walking in the backdoor in this one...
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This game is interesting... The line is SCar -11 or -12 with a total of 60... Game is in Columbia and everyone expects SCar to win... When you think of SCar you immediately think of Clowney and the hit against Mich... SCar also has a lot of preseason hype with people predicting 10+ wins and possibly a spot in the SECCG... Well with all of that hype, being at home, and possibly the most dynamic defensive player in college football, you'd think SCar would be favored by a little more than 11-12... and with the total being 60 or around there it tells me that Vegas expects UNC to put up points... An interesting point... This isn't the first team Fedora has brought to Columbia to open the season... SCar throttled USM 41-13 in 2010... This time he has better talent... Will UNC pull the upset? Probably not, but SCar has 2 big conference games on deck: @UGA, Vandy, that in the big picture are bigger games... I predict this game to be somewhere around 34-28 or 38-30... Can easily see UNC walking in the backdoor in this one...
SCar's D isn't invincible... UNC can and will score
I don't doubt that, but the question is how much??? South Carolina has held Clemson to 13 & 17 points respectively the past two seasons, and UNC is no Clemson. If I can get a 1st half total of 31, I'm on it like a hobo on a ham sandwich.
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Quote Originally Posted by Corley1011:
SCar's D isn't invincible... UNC can and will score
I don't doubt that, but the question is how much??? South Carolina has held Clemson to 13 & 17 points respectively the past two seasons, and UNC is no Clemson. If I can get a 1st half total of 31, I'm on it like a hobo on a ham sandwich.
Out fo 53 meetings the total never reached 60.Closest was 32 to 27 in 1968. Out of all those meetings SC has won 17 lost 32 and tied 4. Thats just the trend part .
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Out fo 53 meetings the total never reached 60.Closest was 32 to 27 in 1968. Out of all those meetings SC has won 17 lost 32 and tied 4. Thats just the trend part .
Jimmy.... SC... has lost alot of guys on defense. Yes, they still have Clowney....but that secondary is very inexperienced.
On the flip side, NC has lost some guys too....
I think this has a chance to go over.
Both UNC and SC have good offenses this seasons
South Carolina does not have the kind of talent that some of the top teams in the SEC have. They are not able to simply reload every year like some other teams can do. What has kept South Carolina competitive in the SEC East is coaching. Say what you want about Spurrier, they guy can coach.
Nevertheless, the Clowney factor will pretty much assure that South Carolina will be a very good defensive team again this season. Their defensive line and secondary should both be solid. South Carolina's biggest question mark is their inexperience at linebacker. I certainly expect UNC to attack them.
North Carolina put up some big offensive numbers last year, but I'm not sure they played a single team with a respectable defense all season. They most definitely didn't face a defense of South Carolina's caliber.
The advantage top SEC teams almost always have when they play out-of-conference opponents is in the trenches, and that's usually where games are won and lost. It's also a factor many gamblers never consider when betting. I don't think this game is any different. South Carolina should have a decisive edge at the point of attack on both sides of the ball.
This game reminds a lot of the Tennessee/NC State game last season - a game Tennessee won 35-21. I think this will play out very similar to that game both in margin of victory, and total points scored.
I have no interest in betting a side in this game, but if I can pick up a 1st half total of 31 or higher, I'll most likely take a shot on the UNDER.
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Quote Originally Posted by Boom_Boom:
Jimmy.... SC... has lost alot of guys on defense. Yes, they still have Clowney....but that secondary is very inexperienced.
On the flip side, NC has lost some guys too....
I think this has a chance to go over.
Both UNC and SC have good offenses this seasons
South Carolina does not have the kind of talent that some of the top teams in the SEC have. They are not able to simply reload every year like some other teams can do. What has kept South Carolina competitive in the SEC East is coaching. Say what you want about Spurrier, they guy can coach.
Nevertheless, the Clowney factor will pretty much assure that South Carolina will be a very good defensive team again this season. Their defensive line and secondary should both be solid. South Carolina's biggest question mark is their inexperience at linebacker. I certainly expect UNC to attack them.
North Carolina put up some big offensive numbers last year, but I'm not sure they played a single team with a respectable defense all season. They most definitely didn't face a defense of South Carolina's caliber.
The advantage top SEC teams almost always have when they play out-of-conference opponents is in the trenches, and that's usually where games are won and lost. It's also a factor many gamblers never consider when betting. I don't think this game is any different. South Carolina should have a decisive edge at the point of attack on both sides of the ball.
This game reminds a lot of the Tennessee/NC State game last season - a game Tennessee won 35-21. I think this will play out very similar to that game both in margin of victory, and total points scored.
I have no interest in betting a side in this game, but if I can pick up a 1st half total of 31 or higher, I'll most likely take a shot on the UNDER.
South Carolina does not have the kind of talent that some of the top teams in the SEC have. They are not able to simply reload every year like some other teams can do. What has kept South Carolina competitive in the SEC East is coaching. Say what you want about Spurrier, they guy can coach.
Nevertheless, the Clowney factor will pretty much assure that South Carolina will be a very good defensive team again this season. Their defensive line and secondary should both be solid. South Carolina's biggest question mark is their inexperience at linebacker. I certainly expect UNC to attack them.
North Carolina put up some big offensive numbers last year, but I'm not sure they played a single team with a respectable defense all season. They most definitely didn't face a defense of South Carolina's caliber.
The advantage top SEC teams almost always have when they play out-of-conference opponents is in the trenches, and that's usually where games are won and lost. It's also a factor many gamblers never consider when betting. I don't think this game is any different. South Carolina should have a decisive edge at the point of attack on both sides of the ball.
This game reminds a lot of the Tennessee/NC State game last season - a game Tennessee won 35-21. I think this will play out very similar to that game both in margin of victory, and total points scored.
I have no interest in betting a side in this game, but if I can pick up a 1st half total of 31 or higher, I'll most likely take a shot on the UNDER.
How would anyone have anything negative to say about him? He wins everywhere, look at his record at South Carolina right now. He is a living and breathing legend. He also has shown greatness in his ability to re invent his offense and style to win at USCe, his teams play defense and run the football now out of the shotgun running QB choices… Who ever saw Spurrier being forced to adapt to that style 10 years ago? and winning 11 games a year at SOUTH CAROLINA! He is something special
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Quote Originally Posted by jimmydafreak:
South Carolina does not have the kind of talent that some of the top teams in the SEC have. They are not able to simply reload every year like some other teams can do. What has kept South Carolina competitive in the SEC East is coaching. Say what you want about Spurrier, they guy can coach.
Nevertheless, the Clowney factor will pretty much assure that South Carolina will be a very good defensive team again this season. Their defensive line and secondary should both be solid. South Carolina's biggest question mark is their inexperience at linebacker. I certainly expect UNC to attack them.
North Carolina put up some big offensive numbers last year, but I'm not sure they played a single team with a respectable defense all season. They most definitely didn't face a defense of South Carolina's caliber.
The advantage top SEC teams almost always have when they play out-of-conference opponents is in the trenches, and that's usually where games are won and lost. It's also a factor many gamblers never consider when betting. I don't think this game is any different. South Carolina should have a decisive edge at the point of attack on both sides of the ball.
This game reminds a lot of the Tennessee/NC State game last season - a game Tennessee won 35-21. I think this will play out very similar to that game both in margin of victory, and total points scored.
I have no interest in betting a side in this game, but if I can pick up a 1st half total of 31 or higher, I'll most likely take a shot on the UNDER.
How would anyone have anything negative to say about him? He wins everywhere, look at his record at South Carolina right now. He is a living and breathing legend. He also has shown greatness in his ability to re invent his offense and style to win at USCe, his teams play defense and run the football now out of the shotgun running QB choices… Who ever saw Spurrier being forced to adapt to that style 10 years ago? and winning 11 games a year at SOUTH CAROLINA! He is something special
I respect the opinions of those favoring the under here but .
Has anyone been paying attention to what Larry Fedora and Bryn Renner are doing in Chapel Hill? For the first time in decades or maybe ever, the 'Heels have scrapped their pro-style run heavy offense for the "spread" and it's showing a lot of promise.
Carolina averaged over 10 more offensive plays per game in '12 over '11 and now Fedora predicts that UNC will join the 900+ offensive plays club in '13. Not only did UNC increase their offensive output LY but they averaged over 1 yard more per play and Brenner cut his INTs in half to 7 despite throwing 72 more passes in the previous season. Oh, and Brenner was very uncomfortable in the new system LY until the very end of the season as stats would support. In his last 4 games Brenner was 111-157 (71%), 1328 yards (332 ypg.), 11 TDs, and just 2 int.
Well Brenner now says that he feels that he now can play by reaction instead of having to try and think about everything before he makes a play. I think that Renner is the best QB to ever play at UNC and I predict a 3600 yard-36 TD type of season for him.
I loved Giovanni Bernard and he will be missed, but UNC has 2 backs that fit this offense perfectly. Romar Morris can fly and A.J. Blue is a good receiver and like Bernard should have a good YAC rating. Carolina will also be ok at WR and O-line.
On the defensive side is where I have some question marks for the Tarheels.For the first time in decades the D line is only average and although there is a ton of athleticism and potential at LB, they are unproven. They should be fine in the secondary with four very productive starters returning.
The fifteen lost scholarships could eventually take their toll on the depth in Chapel Hill before the season is over but should not be a factor in this game. I am strongly leaning to UNC and the over here.
Even though I would love to see the 'Cocks represent the SEC and start the season strong with a decisive victory here, this game makes me very nervous as an outright Tarheel victory would not be terribly surprising to me.
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I respect the opinions of those favoring the under here but .
Has anyone been paying attention to what Larry Fedora and Bryn Renner are doing in Chapel Hill? For the first time in decades or maybe ever, the 'Heels have scrapped their pro-style run heavy offense for the "spread" and it's showing a lot of promise.
Carolina averaged over 10 more offensive plays per game in '12 over '11 and now Fedora predicts that UNC will join the 900+ offensive plays club in '13. Not only did UNC increase their offensive output LY but they averaged over 1 yard more per play and Brenner cut his INTs in half to 7 despite throwing 72 more passes in the previous season. Oh, and Brenner was very uncomfortable in the new system LY until the very end of the season as stats would support. In his last 4 games Brenner was 111-157 (71%), 1328 yards (332 ypg.), 11 TDs, and just 2 int.
Well Brenner now says that he feels that he now can play by reaction instead of having to try and think about everything before he makes a play. I think that Renner is the best QB to ever play at UNC and I predict a 3600 yard-36 TD type of season for him.
I loved Giovanni Bernard and he will be missed, but UNC has 2 backs that fit this offense perfectly. Romar Morris can fly and A.J. Blue is a good receiver and like Bernard should have a good YAC rating. Carolina will also be ok at WR and O-line.
On the defensive side is where I have some question marks for the Tarheels.For the first time in decades the D line is only average and although there is a ton of athleticism and potential at LB, they are unproven. They should be fine in the secondary with four very productive starters returning.
The fifteen lost scholarships could eventually take their toll on the depth in Chapel Hill before the season is over but should not be a factor in this game. I am strongly leaning to UNC and the over here.
Even though I would love to see the 'Cocks represent the SEC and start the season strong with a decisive victory here, this game makes me very nervous as an outright Tarheel victory would not be terribly surprising to me.
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