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One Problem: If Claussen stubs his toe again they are screwed....those jokes behind him couldnt muster jack shit against washington state.
 
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Good stuff Whodey.  Lets have another week like last one....
 
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Quote Originally Posted by VegasMaxx:

LOL.  No I use math.  My line is ND-6.   These write ups are all bullshit.  Numbers are all that matter. PF, PA, and SOS.


So you base nothing on matchups...numbers help your right.  I use numbers as well.  But matchups are a big thing here. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Jayw23:

One Problem: If Claussen stubs his toe again they are screwed....those jokes behind him couldnt muster jack shit against washington state.


2nd string QB Crist threw a laser, best pass I've seen by an ND QB all season for a touchdown.  The pass was so perfect that I think it took Goodman by surprise.  The problem is, Crist injured his knee in the game and probably won't be available to play.  Sharpley will most likely be his back up for this game.  Even if Clausen stubs his toe again, he won't come out.  He will play, he is tough he plays through pain.  There was just no reason for him to at that point last week.  Good luck bud
 
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bball11 - Mostly 11 or 11.5 everywhere I've seen it.

occy777 - Agreed..
 
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Quote Originally Posted by occy777:

Hey Vegas, i wouldn't put 1 buck on navy even if my ex-wife returned al my alimony payments for the last 7 years. BOl buddy.
Two things always happen when navy plays notre dame.  Notre Dame wins and navy covers. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jp1lsu:

Good stuff Whodey.  Lets have another week like last one....


Thanks man.  I'm working on that.  I am trying to convince myself to stick with the plays that I have this week already and play nothing else.  I don't know if it will happen or not. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by VegasMaxx:

Two things always happen when navy plays notre dame.  Notre Dame wins and navy covers. 


Notre Dame won and covered @ Navy last season

They were up 27-7 until the two garbage touchdowns in the last 2 minutes for Navy.  Notre Dame wasn't nearly as good last season as they are this season.  Navy pretty much has the same team.  That little trend they have is quite funny I might have to go back and check some of the lines.  I doubt very many were this small. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Whodeysb09:



Notre Dame won and covered @ Navy last season

They were up 27-7 until the two garbage touchdowns in the last 2 minutes for Navy.  Notre Dame wasn't nearly as good last season as they are this season.  Navy pretty much has the same team.  That little trend they have is quite funny I might have to go back and check some of the lines.  I doubt very many were this small. 
Yeah and Navy has covered the last 8 times @ND
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Whodeysb09:



Notre Dame won and covered @ Navy last season

They were up 27-7 until the two garbage touchdowns in the last 2 minutes for Navy.  Notre Dame wasn't nearly as good last season as they are this season.  Navy pretty much has the same team.  That little trend they have is quite funny I might have to go back and check some of the lines.  I doubt very many were this small. 
Ummm  They were only 4.5 last year and 3.5 the year before that.
 
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Ummm  They were only 4.5 last year and 3.5 the year before that.


I know the last 2 years jackass.  I'm talking before that.  They lost SU two years ago and I knew the line was short.  I'm talking before that. 

Navy 8 times in a row at ND.  Bet besides the 3.5 line 2 years ago.  You won't find one any less than 10.
 
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Again...dwelling on the past.  I'm looking at the present.  Trends mean absolutely nothing to me and never will.  I've went against guaranteed bullshit trends several times to win.  Only last season really matters when trying to get any kind of information for this game.  Again and that barely matters.  So dwelling on the past and past trends and whos covered where means nothing and will always mean nothing to me.
 
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This is a good thread with a good debate guys.  Another couple of factors that need to be mentioned here:
1.)  The game that Navy played against Temple last week was a grueling, brutal fight right down to the end.  The contest featured six lead changes and was lost by Navy at the end.  That has to be disappointing for Navy to suffer a loss in such a manner, which will affect this upcoming weeks performance.

2.)  Notre Dame so far this season seems pretty much incapable of covering a spread.  They have covered only once all season since Week # 1!!!!!!!!  And that one cover required two unanswered touchdowns at home against rival USC to keep it inside double digits.  The reason I bring this up is because I think it favors backing Notre Dame.  It's hard for people to continue backing the Irish when they have burned money this season faster than Sharon Stone in the movie Casino.  This prevents the line from exploding to over 2 TDs.

These two factors I think are important when making a decision on this one.  Let me know how you guys think it'll affect the spread.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Whodeysb09:



I know the last 2 years jackass.  I'm talking before that.  They lost SU two years ago and I knew the line was short.  I'm talking before that. 

Navy 8 times in a row at ND.  Bet besides the 3.5 line 2 years ago.  You won't find one any less than 10.
How much would you like to bet on this?  I will take unlimited action
 
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Quote Originally Posted by VegasMaxx:

How much would you like to bet on this?  I will take unlimited action


You probably are right there might be a few.  But I bet a couple are quite large.  I'll find them all for you.
 
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Whodes--you see the ND line is 11 yes?
 
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1994 Notre Dame -41
1995 Notre Dame -27
1997 Notre Dame -17
1999 Notre Dame -27
2001 Notre Dame -27
2003 Notre Dame -8
2005 Notre Dame -23
2007 Notre Dame -3

Weird a lot of -27's there.  2003 only year where they weren't more than a 10 point favorite.
 
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Whodes--you see the ND line is 11 yes?


Yeah I know
 
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In 1994 and 95 they played in ND for some reason?  Don't recall. I looked 93 which was as far as I could go and they played @ Navy.  Kinda strange.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Whodeysb09:



You probably are right there might be a few.  But I bet a couple are quite large.  I'll find them all for you.
No need.  They were 6 in 04 and 8.5 in 03.  Look navy is just one of 10-15 plays I will make this week for 1 unit. I dont want to give you the illusion like I think they are a lock.  I just dont understand you making a big play here when clausen, allen, floyd, parris, robinson(starting OL) are all hurt.  I dont exactly see ND offense clicking on all cylinders here.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SportSavant:

This is a good thread with a good debate guys.  Another couple of factors that need to be mentioned here:
1.)  The game that Navy played against Temple last week was a grueling, brutal fight right down to the end.  The contest featured six lead changes and was lost by Navy at the end.  That has to be disappointing for Navy to suffer a loss in such a manner, which will affect this upcoming weeks performance.

2.)  Notre Dame so far this season seems pretty much incapable of covering a spread.  They have covered only once all season since Week # 1!!!!!!!!  And that one cover required two unanswered touchdowns at home against rival USC to keep it inside double digits.  The reason I bring this up is because I think it favors backing Notre Dame.  It's hard for people to continue backing the Irish when they have burned money this season faster than Sharon Stone in the movie Casino.  This prevents the line from exploding to over 2 TDs.

These two factors I think are important when making a decision on this one.  Let me know how you guys think it'll affect the spread.


Navy losing to Temple is absolutely hilarious.  I know Temple is improved but get real.  They should have won that game.  The last time Notre Dame played a heavy rush team week 1 they lit Nevada up 35-0 with Floyd who had 4 catches for 189 yards and 3 touchdowns.  Vegas has set the line to get action on Navy.

This is an easy week for Notre Dame.  Just like UConn will be in 2 weeks. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Whodeysb09:

1994 Notre Dame -41
1995 Notre Dame -27
1997 Notre Dame -17
1999 Notre Dame -27
2001 Notre Dame -27
2003 Notre Dame -8
2005 Notre Dame -23
2007 Notre Dame -3

Weird a lot of -27's there.  2003 only year where they weren't more than a 10 point favorite.
They've been less than a 10pt fav 4 out of the last 10 years.
 
 
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i was at the navy osu game whoday and all i can say is god damn they're tough!!!!!! they never quit

not gonna touch it ....bol

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