If you honestly think you can get an entire team on the take you are nuts. You have never played sports.
How could you as an athlete just throw a game? How could you get 85 athletes to do it? It would cost more to pay them off than you would win!
I have seen more threads on point shaving this year than all past year's combined. Just because you can't pick a winner does not mean a team is on the take.
. But seriously, I barely have time to actually post about games, how the hell do you people have time to troll these threads day and night? 
cbowles:
I'm not attacking you by any means, so don't take this the wrong way.. .. tecnically I never wore a jock strap, but I did play 4 years of college football, and was pretty damn good at it too. I also coached for 5 years in college. I went through my fair share of practices both as a player & coach. You are correct in stating that we don't know what happened in practice, but to your point; First, if their was a problem with the starter in practice, they probably wouldn't have started him to begin with. That said, he could have said something on the sidelines? Or. He could have been calling his own plays & disreging what the coaches were telling him. I have experienced both. But, as a coach, you don't deal with that during a game, b/c the starter has practiced all week and gives you the best chance to win. You don't set an example for 1 kid, when there are 80 other players fighting to win the game. You contiune to call & play the game for the other kids and then set the example after the game.
Furthermore, he was unproductive b/c he was getting no time to throw the ball. Not everything is on the QB, as there were alot of issues going on with that offense that weren't all attributed to him.
Again, I said in my post that I'm not a conspiracy guy; and trust me when I say, I don't think a low level MAC conference coach is "on the take". But Boom is 100% correct in that, that head football coach gave up on his players. That can't be denied. I watched a La Tech team that was down 16 midway through the third play like their hair was on fire to try and comeback and win (which they almost did). Conversley, Central Michigan flat gave up on the field. It was evident. They gave up; and when that happens, questions as to why are going to be asked. That's all.
On a side note; And this is just a question (conspiracy theory aside).. and this question is to anybody who reads this;
During the end of the ND/Stanford game, the official who annouced to the crowd as to whether or not the last play would be confirmed made a first statement of "There will be no penalty on Notre Dame for excessive celebration because they thought the game had ended"
Now. My question (and in all seriousness, just asking..) haven't we seen in college football teams getting a penalty for that? I believe in the Utah/BYU game, Utah got flagged for that? If anybody could shed light on that, it would be interesting to hear as to why ND woudln't get penalized for that, but other teams have in the past. Is there a "rule" that I am missing, or just missing something in general?
Good read...I am looking at BYU as well but I do wonder if Rees could light up the Cougars if he plays over Golsten. They were lit up by Oregon St! I agree that 14.5 is a lot but how does BYU score on Notre Dame?
I am a Bama guy and you have thrown out your props all year for the Tide. My question is besides LSU (and I wonder how they will score) who in the heck beats Bama until the BCSNCG? I think Oregon's offense could score a few points maybe but who else is Bama gonna play that is good enough to beat them? The thing with Bama is that they never get too high or too low. They had some close calls in 2009 with UT and Auburn, both of which weren't very good but since the beginning of 2011 they have been crushing teams.
Htrain,
Again, let me be as clear as I can, I’m not a conspiracy guy. Just want that to be know. However, to your point; You don’t have to have 85 players “throw a game”. All you need is 1 guy, the head football coach. And again, I have to reiterate it; I’m not a guy that thinks it goes on, but I’m not going to be naive either. If you don’t think with all the money boosters have, with all the “big wigs” that follow “their” programs and with all the shady f*ckers surrounding programs, don’t think for one second it is not at least possible.
Just think about it; Just as an example we will use the Tennessee/Miss St game. You don’t think it is at all possible (completely out of the question) that a HUGE booster, or some slap dick guy with a shit ton of money can’t approach Dan Mullen the night before the game (at a booster function, which all the teams have) and say; “Good Luck Coach. Go get those VOls. Hopefully we can get’em by 10. That would make us all a bit happier. Obviously we want a big win tomorrow, but man, winning by 10 would be great” Or. If a guy approached somebody like Les Miles and said: “Hey coach, have a good game tomorrow, Akron should be a cake walk, I think beating them by 32 should be a breeze…”
Seriously. Just think about that. And again, I stress: I don’t think it probably happens. But to completely think that it is 100% out of the realm of possibilities is being naive. Especially since we have seen documentaries on teams like SMU. Hell Barry Switzer (in the film on Marcus Dupree) flat out said he bought the kid & his mother A HOUSE! Or how about that kid who was around the Miami FL program & all that shady shit. There are so many people with a HIGH influence on these coaches. These coaches have to keep a small group of people happy in order to save their jobs.. and in those small groups, you don’t know who they are, but I can tell you one thing; they have A LOT Of money and have A LOT in the say of if the head coach stays or goes. Trust me on that.
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They do have to go there at NIGHT which is a big task no matter who you are... I still think Clemson covers
College football is happy when N.D is good.... no matter how they make " IT " happen.... Anyone with eyes could see that was the wrong call on the field and yet they reviewed it and STILL got it wrong.
the truth is I respect people and there opinions.
as for another loss... anything Could happen...the sec championship could happen. anything could happen. Yes Alabama is the best team in the nation, but not to the point of being unbeatable.
everything is under the radar around here The truth is he is secretly in love with me... and he is mad cause his mom makes him take down the I love Boom posters..... ever seen that movie Ace Ventura pet detective??? Ray Finkle????^^^^^^^This guy^^^^^^
as for another loss... anything Could happen...the sec championship could happen. anything could happen. Yes Alabama is the best team in the nation, but not to the point of being unbeatable.I think the big worry for me with Bama is protecting the QB. If a team could play ahead of Bama and make them throw it more I think they could exploit a bit of a weakness at RT as far as pass protection.
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