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Oregon and the PAC 12 are about to be exposed on New Years Day. The reason Oregon has so much success is because the PAC 12 is littered with a bunch of undersized athletes. Oregon just has undersized athletes in the right system. 

Now it's time to face a southern football team with southern recruits. FSU has bigger bodies. FSU has better athletes -- despite what the media wants you to think. 

FSU is going to hit Oregon harder than they've been hit the last 4 years. Oregon will score, sure. But FSU will pull this game out and extend the lead late for a comfortable victory. 
 
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I can't argue the size but I don't know if FSU can stay with Oregon's speed. 
Of course Stanford rolls Oregon most the time by simply overpowering them so you may be onto something. 
 
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sure ......a few years ago Dookie
 *here's their 2 deep defensive front....big for a multiple speed- based scheme...........

DEFENSE
DE 9 Arik Armstead (6-8, 290,Jr.)  
55 Tui Talia (6-5, 285,Jr.)  

NG 56 Alex Balducci (6-4, 310,Jr.)  
99 Sam Kamp (6-4, 290,Jr.)  

E 44 DeForest Buckner (6-7, 290,Jr.)
45 T.J. Daniel (6-6, 270, So.)  
(or) 84 Stetzon Bair (6-9, 290,Jr.)  

OLB 91 TonyWashington (6-3, 250, Sr.)
96 Christian French (6-4, 245,Jr.)

ILB 48 Rodney Hardrick (6-1, 247,Jr.)
46 Danny Mattingly (6-5, 250, Fr.)

ILB 22 Derrick Malone Jr. (6-2, 220, Sr.)
35 JoeWalker (6-2, 240,Jr.)  

OLB 33 Tyson Coleman (6-1, 235,Jr.)
86 Torrodney Prevot (6-3, 222, So.)
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Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

sure ......a few years ago Dookie
 *here's their 2 deep defensive front....big for a multiple speed- based scheme...........

DEFENSE
DE 9 Arik Armstead (6-8, 290,Jr.)  
55 Tui Talia (6-5, 285,Jr.)  

NG 56 Alex Balducci (6-4, 310,Jr.)  
99 Sam Kamp (6-4, 290,Jr.)  

E 44 DeForest Buckner (6-7, 290,Jr.)
45 T.J. Daniel (6-6, 270, So.)  
(or) 84 Stetzon Bair (6-9, 290,Jr.)  

OLB 91 TonyWashington (6-3, 250, Sr.)
96 Christian French (6-4, 245,Jr.)

ILB 48 Rodney Hardrick (6-1, 247,Jr.)
46 Danny Mattingly (6-5, 250, Fr.)

ILB 22 Derrick Malone Jr. (6-2, 220, Sr.)
35 JoeWalker (6-2, 240,Jr.)  

OLB 33 Tyson Coleman (6-1, 235,Jr.)
86 Torrodney Prevot (6-3, 222, So.)

FSU's OL averages 322 pounds whereas Oregon's averages 282 pounds. Thats a 40 pound differential. Plus who are those names? FSU has Cameron Erving, Bobby Hart, Josue Matias, Tre Jackson, and others who have been doing it big game in and big game out for 730+ calendar days now. 

FSU has southern recruited pro prospects. Oregon has a system in an undersized conference -- which is about to get exposed. 
 
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Oregon's DL averages 282 pounds ****
 
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Oregon gets a lot of recruits from Texas, They also recruit a lot in the south including Florida.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:

sure ......a few years ago Dookie
 *here's their 2 deep defensive front....big for a multiple speed- based scheme...........

DEFENSE
DE 9 Arik Armstead (6-8, 290,Jr.)  
55 Tui Talia (6-5, 285,Jr.)  

NG 56 Alex Balducci (6-4, 310,Jr.)  
99 Sam Kamp (6-4, 290,Jr.)  

E 44 DeForest Buckner (6-7, 290,Jr.)
45 T.J. Daniel (6-6, 270, So.)  
(or) 84 Stetzon Bair (6-9, 290,Jr.)  

OLB 91 TonyWashington (6-3, 250, Sr.)
96 Christian French (6-4, 245,Jr.)

ILB 48 Rodney Hardrick (6-1, 247,Jr.)
46 Danny Mattingly (6-5, 250, Fr.)

ILB 22 Derrick Malone Jr. (6-2, 220, Sr.)
35 JoeWalker (6-2, 240,Jr.)  

OLB 33 Tyson Coleman (6-1, 235,Jr.)
86 Torrodney Prevot (6-3, 222, So.)


You can't explain anything to this guy.  There are MANY homers, but this guy takes the cake.....BY FAR.  He probably thinks FSU will NEVER lose again.  He is pretty funny actually, but some people are just blind.  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by MrDokie:


FSU's OL averages 322 pounds whereas Oregon's averages 282 pounds. Thats a 40 pound differential. Plus who are those names? FSU has Cameron Erving, Bobby Hart, Josue Matias, Tre Jackson, and others who have been doing it big game in and big game out for 730+ calendar days now. 

FSU has southern recruited pro prospects. Oregon has a system in an undersized conference -- which is about to get exposed. 

FSUs line is the 5th biggest in both college and pros so them outweighing the def line is NOTHING NEW.  They're going to expose them like they did Ok State, Miami, Clemson, Florida, and Georgia Tech, right?  Sure they won the game, which is all that matters, but don't act like they are some invincible force out there.

I think you might need to be concerned with the best QB in college football and how you're going to stop him.  

Good luck, but your "homer ism " is simply making you blinded by the fact this is BY far the best team The "DYNASTY" lol has faced this year.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by laythehammer:



You can't explain anything to this guy.  There are MANY homers, but this guy takes the cake.....BY FAR.  He probably thinks FSU will NEVER lose again.  He is pretty funny actually, but some people are just blind.  
.......It's funny isn't it?
 
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The big difference between this years oregon team from years past is Royce Freeman & Thomas Tyner...they have a physical run game compared to years past with finesse running with LMJ & DeAnthony Thomas.    Expect a shoot out but oregon will out score them.
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Quote Originally Posted by laythehammer:


FSUs line is the 5th biggest in both college and pros so them outweighing the def line is NOTHING NEW.  They're going to expose them like they did Ok State, Miami, Clemson, Florida, and Georgia Tech, right?  Sure they won the game, which is all that matters, but don't act like they are some invincible force out there.

I think you might need to be concerned with the best QB in college football and how you're going to stop him.  

Good luck, but your "homer ism " is simply making you blinded by the fact this is BY far the best team The "DYNASTY" lol has faced this year.

Let's be honest here... The best quarterback is Jameis Winston. Please, I dare someone to beat him.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by warcameagle56:

.......It's funny isn't it?

Sure, I may be a homer.

But have I been wrong?

We haven't lost since 2012. I'm clearly onto something with how I view FSU football -- its elite and no other program is.

Alabama is not the 1 seed.

FSU is. 
 
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I agree that Oregon will not have much success running between the tackles, but as Georgia Tech demonstrated, the Noles can be exposed on the perimeter.  Expect Oregon to get those bring guys running laterally by attacking the edges of the Noles defense.

The other problem with defending Oregon is Mariotta's speed.  He can really hurt a defense that loses contain, and containing his speed is no easy task.  And if Mariotta doesn't run, he will pick you apart with pinpoint passing.

Oregon's offense is a tough task for any defense.

That said, I actually agree with MrDokie.  I think FSU will ultimately win this game.

 

 
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My girlfriend kept reassuring me that size doesn't matter.

That is until she ran off with someone else.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by MrDokie:

Oregon and the PAC 12 are about to be exposed on New Years Day. The reason Oregon has so much success is because the PAC 12 is littered with a bunch of undersized athletes. Oregon just has undersized athletes in the right system. 

Now it's time to face a southern football team with southern recruits. FSU has bigger bodies. FSU has better athletes -- despite what the media wants you to think. 

FSU is going to hit Oregon harder than they've been hit the last 4 years. Oregon will score, sure. But FSU will pull this game out and extend the lead late for a comfortable victory. 
 
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FSU is not the best example of southern football team.

I think Alabama, Mississippi, and Mississippi State could each beat FSU.
 
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FSU ranked 15th in Sagarin's ratings
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Tinklebell:

My girlfriend kept reassuring me that size doesn't matter.

That is until she ran off with someone else.

 

Good one.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Tinklebell:

FSU is not the best example of southern football team.

I think Alabama, Mississippi, and Mississippi State could each beat FSU.
How the hell does this make sense? They just HAPPEN to play in the acc. Same talent and recruiting as as SEC team. Lol at the miss schools beating them
 
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FSU does have lots of great talent, but the blind statement about all the great athletes being from the south just shows how bad your rationale is man.  There are BIG, FAST, and STRONG players all around the country.  Yes, Florida, Texas, and the south have a lot of them, but developing this talent with coaching and executing on the field are a big part of the puzzle also.
That's why they play the games, and if Vegas has the Ducks as an 8 point fav to start, there is obviously a reason

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Quote Originally Posted by MrDokie:


Let's be honest here... The best quarterback is Jameis Winston. Please, I dare someone to beat him.

I think you could argue that.  He is a good QB, and there is no denying that. The kid just knows how to win, and that's something that you can't take away from him.  But, my statement was directed at this season only, and I stand firm on my statement. The kid has accounted for 52 tds and 2 ints this year.  I also would take Mariotta over Winston because Winston is a complete moron off the field.  I don't think you could argue that point. 

Good luck man.  Florida State is a good team, but you poking your chest out like they are the greatest dynasty ever and no one can/will beat them is comical.  The fact is that once Jameis leaves the "dynasty" is over because you can't just pick up a football player like him every year.  He is a once every 10-20 year player. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by MrDokie:


Let's be honest here... The best quarterback is Jameis Winston. Please, I dare someone to beat him.


The things that come out of your mouth just wreak of ignorance... you DARE somebody to beat him?  Do you know what the word "Dare" means?  Might want to look it up to avoid using it incorrectly in the future... 
 
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The things that come out of your mouth just wreak of ignorance... you DARE somebody to beat him?  Do you know what the word "Dare" means?  Might want to look it up to avoid using it incorrectly in the future... 

I'm an attorney, don't need to look up the word DARE. It means "to challenge." Makes perfect sense. 
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by laythehammer:

I think you could argue that.  He is a good QB, and there is no denying that. The kid just knows how to win, and that's something that you can't take away from him.  But, my statement was directed at this season only, and I stand firm on my statement. The kid has accounted for 52 tds and 2 ints this year.  I also would take Mariotta over Winston because Winston is a complete moron off the field.  I don't think you could argue that point. 

Good luck man.  Florida State is a good team, but you poking your chest out like they are the greatest dynasty ever and no one can/will beat them is comical.  The fact is that once Jameis leaves the "dynasty" is over because you can't just pick up a football player like him every year.  He is a once every 10-20 year player. 


You act like FSU is just Jameis Winston. There is a reason we have the longest bowl streak in the NCAA. Jimbo Fisher has the train loaded up ready to roll with another recruiting class littered with 5 star talent. 

No doubt Jameis is historic and I expected all of this when FSU started recruiting him in 2010/2011. Ive expected this for 4 years, thats why I pound my chest. No one has been more accurate in college football than I have been. 

I bet FSU -- with a freshman QB after EJ left -- to win the title last year in May of 2013... And it hit. It's going to happen again. 

FSU is a dynasty. It actually is listed as one of the 5 recognized ollegiate football dynasties per SI. 

Before there was "SEC speed" there was Florida State speed. The SEC was molded after FSU. 

Mariota is the product of a system and FSU has played a much more difficult schedule -- despite what metrics want you to believe. My metric is this -- how many secondary and defensive pros has Mariota faced and how many has Winston faced? Louisville, Miami, Clemson, Notre Dame, Florida, among others have MANY more NFL pro prospects than the likes of Mariota against Washington, Washington State, Utah, Oregon State, Colorado, and Cal. 

Since I deal in the business of facts -- here are facts to pimp out Mariota's system as to why he was so many TDS:

PAC 12 PASS defense rankings in D1 football (consisting of 128 teams):

California -- 128th
Washington St -- 126th
Washington -- 124th
Arizona -- 119th
Oregon -- 114th (just to show how inflated the PAC 12 really is and that Winston is absolutely going to shred the 114th overall pass defense)

USC -- 110th
Arizona State -- 107th
Colorado -- 101st
Oregon State -- 93rd
Utah -- 90th
UCLA -- 87th
Stanford -- 7th

No doubt, Mariota is going to win the Heisman this year and he deserves it. But Winston will win the game. There is no way around it. 

Winston is Aaron Rodgers.
Mariota is Colin Kaepernick 

All of his off field issues are minor and actually non existent since CURSING. Lets crucify the man for cursing. His only off the field issues of any merit are CURSING and ACCEPTING (not stealing as they were pre packaged by a friend and waiting for him) crab legs. He was suspended for both offenses. Missed a handful of baseball games for the crab legs and the nation was introduced to Sean Maguire against Clemson for his cursing incident.
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