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axel360

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2014 - 2:10 PM ET #26

I'm trying to talk myself into thinking FSU can win with the whole recruiting aspect, but based on what I've seen on the actual football field this year, I'm just not so sure.

Which is unfortunate because I think Bama rolls over Ohio St. I really want at least one (or both) to be great games.

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WahooS

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2014 - 3:11 PM ET #27

Quote Originally Posted by MrDokie:

Quote Originally Posted by laythehammer:

I think you could argue that. He is a good QB, and there is no denying that. The kid just knows how to win, and that's something that you can't take away from him. But, my statement was directed at this season only, and I stand firm on my statement. The kid has accounted for 52 tds and 2 ints this year. I also would take Mariotta over Winston because Winston is a complete moron off the field. I don't think you could argue that point.
Good luck man. Florida State is a good team, but you poking your chest out like they are the greatest dynasty ever and no one can/will beat them is comical. The fact is that once Jameis leaves the "dynasty" is over because you can't just pick up a football player like him every year. He is a once every 10-20 year player.

You act like FSU is just Jameis Winston. There is a reason we have the longest bowl streak in the NCAA. Jimbo Fisher has the train loaded up ready to roll with another recruiting class littered with 5 star talent. No doubt Jameis is historic and I expected all of this when FSU started recruiting him in 2010/2011. Ive expected this for 4 years, thats why I pound my chest. No one has been more accurate in college football than I have been. I bet FSU -- with a freshman QB after EJ left -- to win the title last year in May of 2013... And it hit. It's going to happen again. FSU is a dynasty. It actually is listed as one of the 5 recognized ollegiate football dynasties per SI. Before there was "SEC speed" there was Florida State speed. The SEC was molded after FSU. Mariota is the product of a system and FSU has played a much more difficult schedule -- despite what metrics want you to believe. My metric is this -- how many secondary and defensive pros has Mariota faced and how many has Winston faced? Louisville, Miami, Clemson, Notre Dame, Florida, among others have MANY more NFL pro prospects than the likes of Mariota against Washington, Washington State, Utah, Oregon State, Colorado, and Cal. Since I deal in the business of facts -- here are facts to pimp out Mariota's system as to why he was so many TDS:PAC 12 PASS defense rankings in D1 football (consisting of 128 teams):California -- 128thWashington St -- 126thWashington -- 124thArizona -- 119thOregon -- 114th (just to show how inflated the PAC 12 really is and that Winston is absolutely going to shred the 114th overall pass defense)USC -- 110thArizona State -- 107thColorado -- 101stOregon State -- 93rdUtah -- 90thUCLA -- 87thStanford -- 7thNo doubt, Mariota is going to win the Heisman this year and he deserves it. But Winston will win the game. There is no way around it. Winston is Aaron Rodgers.Mariota is Colin Kaepernick All of his off field issues are minor and actually non existent since CURSING. Lets crucify the man for cursing. His only off the field issues of any merit are CURSING and ACCEPTING (not stealing as they were pre packaged by a friend and waiting for him) crab legs. He was suspended for both offenses. Missed a handful of baseball games for the crab legs and the nation was introduced to Sean Maguire against Clemson for his cursing incident.

Winston isn't in the same galaxy as Aaron Rodgers & he has thrown more picks this year than Mariota has in his entire career at Oregon

Winston is a better pro prospect no doubt but he isn't anywhere close to Aaron Rodgers

That's truly the dumbest statement I've read in a decade at covers or at least close to it, wow

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Quote Originally Posted by MrDokie:

Quote Originally Posted by laythehammer:

I think you could argue that. He is a good QB, and there is no denying that. The kid just knows how to win, and that's something that you can't take away from him. But, my statement was directed at this season only, and I stand firm on my statement. The kid has accounted for 52 tds and 2 ints this year. I also would take Mariotta over Winston because Winston is a complete moron off the field. I don't think you could argue that point.
Good luck man. Florida State is a good team, but you poking your chest out like they are the greatest dynasty ever and no one can/will beat them is comical. The fact is that once Jameis leaves the "dynasty" is over because you can't just pick up a football player like him every year. He is a once every 10-20 year player.

You act like FSU is just Jameis Winston. There is a reason we have the longest bowl streak in the NCAA. Jimbo Fisher has the train loaded up ready to roll with another recruiting class littered with 5 star talent. No doubt Jameis is historic and I expected all of this when FSU started recruiting him in 2010/2011. Ive expected this for 4 years, thats why I pound my chest. No one has been more accurate in college football than I have been. I bet FSU -- with a freshman QB after EJ left -- to win the title last year in May of 2013... And it hit. It's going to happen again. FSU is a dynasty. It actually is listed as one of the 5 recognized ollegiate football dynasties per SI. Before there was "SEC speed" there was Florida State speed. The SEC was molded after FSU. Mariota is the product of a system and FSU has played a much more difficult schedule -- despite what metrics want you to believe. My metric is this -- how many secondary and defensive pros has Mariota faced and how many has Winston faced? Louisville, Miami, Clemson, Notre Dame, Florida, among others have MANY more NFL pro prospects than the likes of Mariota against Washington, Washington State, Utah, Oregon State, Colorado, and Cal. Since I deal in the business of facts -- here are facts to pimp out Mariota's system as to why he was so many TDS:PAC 12 PASS defense rankings in D1 football (consisting of 128 teams):California -- 128thWashington St -- 126thWashington -- 124thArizona -- 119thOregon -- 114th (just to show how inflated the PAC 12 really is and that Winston is absolutely going to shred the 114th overall pass defense)USC -- 110thArizona State -- 107thColorado -- 101stOregon State -- 93rdUtah -- 90thUCLA -- 87thStanford -- 7thNo doubt, Mariota is going to win the Heisman this year and he deserves it. But Winston will win the game. There is no way around it. Winston is Aaron Rodgers.Mariota is Colin Kaepernick All of his off field issues are minor and actually non existent since CURSING. Lets crucify the man for cursing. His only off the field issues of any merit are CURSING and ACCEPTING (not stealing as they were pre packaged by a friend and waiting for him) crab legs. He was suspended for both offenses. Missed a handful of baseball games for the crab legs and the nation was introduced to Sean Maguire against Clemson for his cursing incident.

Winston isn't in the same galaxy as Aaron Rodgers & he has thrown more picks this year than Mariota has in his entire career at Oregon

Winston is a better pro prospect no doubt but he isn't anywhere close to Aaron Rodgers

That's truly the dumbest statement I've read in a decade at covers or at least close to it, wow

laythehammer

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Posted: Dec. 8, 2014 - 3:58 PM ET #28

Quote Originally Posted by MrDokie:

You act like FSU is just Jameis Winston. There is a reason we have the longest bowl streak in the NCAA. Jimbo Fisher has the train loaded up ready to roll with another recruiting class littered with 5 star talent.

No doubt Jameis is historic and I expected all of this when FSU started recruiting him in 2010/2011. Ive expected this for 4 years, thats why I pound my chest. No one has been more accurate in college football than I have been.

I bet FSU -- with a freshman QB after EJ left -- to win the title last year in May of 2013... And it hit. It's going to happen again.

FSU is a dynasty. It actually is listed as one of the 5 recognized ollegiate football dynasties per SI.

Before there was "SEC speed" there was Florida State speed. The SEC was molded after FSU.

Mariota is the product of a system and FSU has played a much more difficult schedule -- despite what metrics want you to believe. My metric is this -- how many secondary and defensive pros has Mariota faced and how many has Winston faced? Louisville, Miami, Clemson, Notre Dame, Florida, among others have MANY more NFL pro prospects than the likes of Mariota against Washington, Washington State, Utah, Oregon State, Colorado, and Cal.

Since I deal in the business of facts -- here are facts to pimp out Mariota's system as to why he was so many TDS:

PAC 12 PASS defense rankings in D1 football (consisting of 128 teams):

California -- 128th

Washington St -- 126th

Washington -- 124th

Arizona -- 119th

Oregon -- 114th (just to show how inflated the PAC 12 really is and that Winston is absolutely going to shred the 114th overall pass defense)

USC -- 110th

Arizona State -- 107th

Colorado -- 101st

Oregon State -- 93rd

Utah -- 90th

UCLA -- 87th

Stanford -- 7th

No doubt, Mariota is going to win the Heisman this year and he deserves it. But Winston will win the game. There is no way around it.

Winston is Aaron Rodgers.

Mariota is Colin Kaepernick

All of his off field issues are minor and actually non existent since CURSING. Lets crucify the man for cursing. His only off the field issues of any merit are CURSING and ACCEPTING (not stealing as they were pre packaged by a friend and waiting for him) crab legs. He was suspended for both offenses. Missed a handful of baseball games for the crab legs and the nation was introduced to Sean Maguire against Clemson for his cursing incident.

With your highlighted statements above, I can't debate with someone I consider irrational and insane. Jameis Winston is Aaron Rodgers. Do you sell what you smoke?

All of his off field issues are minor<<<<Really? Please tell me you are joking. The kid not only gets ACCUSED of sexual assault, he decides to standup in the student union and say what he did...How stupid can you be? To be fair, "Hell has no fury like a woman scorned", so he might not be guilty of sexual assault if he used her and she was trying to get back at him, BUT any SENSIBLE human being knows that is the last thing they should say while under the spotlight after being accused of sexual assault. Great football player on the field, COMPLETE and UTTER MORON off of it.

Good luck to your team Dokie, but we just aren't going to see eye to eye on this one bud.