missed that goal for the sake of a few thousand from " Vegas ".
Are you people shitting me with this conspiracy bullshit? Do you really think a kid would miss those kicks for a few thousand ( yes, a few thousand ) and cost his school millions, and himself a shitload more because " Vegas got to him "?
Take your losses on the chin you fucking idiot. The kicker and his school had a shitload more to play for than anything " vegas " could have offered him/them.
Take your losses like a man you fucking dipshits!
To remove first post, remove entire topic.
missed that goal for the sake of a few thousand from " Vegas ".
Are you people shitting me with this conspiracy bullshit? Do you really think a kid would miss those kicks for a few thousand ( yes, a few thousand ) and cost his school millions, and himself a shitload more because " Vegas got to him "?
Take your losses on the chin you fucking idiot. The kicker and his school had a shitload more to play for than anything " vegas " could have offered him/them.
people like to give themselves a reason for sucking. after that nba scandal everyone thinks everything is fixed. just ignore the idiots that post that shit
people like to give themselves a reason for sucking. after that nba scandal everyone thinks everything is fixed. just ignore the idiots that post that shit
If you don't think there are people out there with A LOT of power that can fix a college football game, then you're a fucking retarded becuz it happens all the time....IN ALL SPORTS. Trust me, it even happens in hockey. There's no denying it, that's just the way it is. It's not conspiracy theory shit, everybody knows that there is corruption in sports.
If you don't think there are people out there with A LOT of power that can fix a college football game, then you're a fucking retarded becuz it happens all the time....IN ALL SPORTS. Trust me, it even happens in hockey. There's no denying it, that's just the way it is. It's not conspiracy theory shit, everybody knows that there is corruption in sports.
If you don't think there are people out there with A LOT of power that can fix a college football game, then you're a fucking retarded becuz it happens all the time....IN ALL SPORTS. Trust me, it even happens in hockey. There's no denying it, that's just the way it is. It's not conspiracy theory shit, everybody knows that there is corruption in sports.
I am glad that you brought the word " retard " into this thread, because you my moronic, inbred friend are exactly that.
While you are showing us how fucking stupid you truly are, please tell us how much do you think the kicker pocketed? No ask yourself how much the school would have pocketed for finishing #2.
Then think about the kickers career. He missed two massive FGs and now has no career in the NFL. Please tell us how much was needed for this kid to do what you say he did.
P.S. Time to change the tin foil hat on your head you fucking space cadet!
Quote Originally Posted by soonabooma:
If you don't think there are people out there with A LOT of power that can fix a college football game, then you're a fucking retarded becuz it happens all the time....IN ALL SPORTS. Trust me, it even happens in hockey. There's no denying it, that's just the way it is. It's not conspiracy theory shit, everybody knows that there is corruption in sports.
I am glad that you brought the word " retard " into this thread, because you my moronic, inbred friend are exactly that.
While you are showing us how fucking stupid you truly are, please tell us how much do you think the kicker pocketed? No ask yourself how much the school would have pocketed for finishing #2.
Then think about the kickers career. He missed two massive FGs and now has no career in the NFL. Please tell us how much was needed for this kid to do what you say he did.
P.S. Time to change the tin foil hat on your head you fucking space cadet!
If you don't think there are people out there with A LOT of power that can fix a college football game, then you're a fucking retarded becuz it happens all the time....IN ALL SPORTS. Trust me, it even happens in hockey. There's no denying it, that's just the way it is. It's not conspiracy theory shit, everybody knows that there is corruption in sports.
P.S you inbred fucking imbecile. While I give your conspiracy and losing money bitching no credence, this was no average college event. This game had HUGE implications and more than your Vegas bookies can buy.
Fuck off back to Oklahoma imbecile.
Quote Originally Posted by soonabooma:
If you don't think there are people out there with A LOT of power that can fix a college football game, then you're a fucking retarded becuz it happens all the time....IN ALL SPORTS. Trust me, it even happens in hockey. There's no denying it, that's just the way it is. It's not conspiracy theory shit, everybody knows that there is corruption in sports.
P.S you inbred fucking imbecile. While I give your conspiracy and losing money bitching no credence, this was no average college event. This game had HUGE implications and more than your Vegas bookies can buy.
[Quote: Originally Posted by Syddigs] missed that goal for the sake of a few thousand from " Vegas ".
Are you people shitting me with this conspiracy bullshit? Do you really think a kid would miss those kicks for a few thousand ( yes, a few thousand ) and cost his school millions, and himself a shitload more because " Vegas got to him "?
Take your losses on the chin you fucking idiot. The kicker and his school had a shitload more to play for than anything " vegas " could have offered him/them.
Take your losses like a man you fucking dipshits!
[/Quote
And to you SOONABOOMA,
If you think that this sh*t is fixed, QUIT betting on it!!!!
[Quote: Originally Posted by Syddigs] missed that goal for the sake of a few thousand from " Vegas ".
Are you people shitting me with this conspiracy bullshit? Do you really think a kid would miss those kicks for a few thousand ( yes, a few thousand ) and cost his school millions, and himself a shitload more because " Vegas got to him "?
Take your losses on the chin you fucking idiot. The kicker and his school had a shitload more to play for than anything " vegas " could have offered him/them.
Take your losses like a man you fucking dipshits!
[/Quote
And to you SOONABOOMA,
If you think that this sh*t is fixed, QUIT betting on it!!!!
If you don't think there are people out there with A LOT of power that can fix a college football game, then you're a fucking retarded becuz it happens all the time....IN ALL SPORTS. Trust me, it even happens in hockey. There's no denying it, that's just the way it is. It's not conspiracy theory shit, everybody knows that there is corruption in sports.
now thats fuckin funny! i guess thats how you call someone a retard in oklahoma speak
Quote Originally Posted by soonabooma:
If you don't think there are people out there with A LOT of power that can fix a college football game, then you're a fucking retarded becuz it happens all the time....IN ALL SPORTS. Trust me, it even happens in hockey. There's no denying it, that's just the way it is. It's not conspiracy theory shit, everybody knows that there is corruption in sports.
now thats fuckin funny! i guess thats how you call someone a retard in oklahoma speak
But take it easy on SOONABOOMA. The boy is from Oklahoma, and those Okies are very SLOOOOOOOOW!
By the way,
love the tin foil comment, VERY FUNNY!
I am surprised that an imbecile from Okie was watching this game. I didn't think they were aware of sports outside the Sooner State.
Boise had plenty of chances to put that game to bed, how the fuck anyone thinks they could/would possibly throw that game after both Oregon and Auburn struggled to win today is talking out of their pocket and has no fucking clue about sports, let alone sports gambling.
Quote Originally Posted by Wiseguy-1:
Yo Syddigs,
I could not agree with you more!
But take it easy on SOONABOOMA. The boy is from Oklahoma, and those Okies are very SLOOOOOOOOW!
By the way,
love the tin foil comment, VERY FUNNY!
I am surprised that an imbecile from Okie was watching this game. I didn't think they were aware of sports outside the Sooner State.
Boise had plenty of chances to put that game to bed, how the fuck anyone thinks they could/would possibly throw that game after both Oregon and Auburn struggled to win today is talking out of their pocket and has no fucking clue about sports, let alone sports gambling.
I am glad that you brought the word " retard " into this thread, because you my moronic, inbred friend are exactly that.
While you are showing us how fucking stupid you truly are, please tell us how much do you think the kicker pocketed? No ask yourself how much the school would have pocketed for finishing #2.
Then think about the kickers career. He missed two massive FGs and now has no career in the NFL. Please tell us how much was needed for this kid to do what you say he did.
P.S. Time to change the tin foil hat on your head you fucking space cadet!
Let me just start this conversation by saying that I do not at all believe in fixing, but I also don't believe its not possible. Anyway, I don't disagree with you obviously on your main point but this argument just has too many holes.
You can't deny how easy it would be for one player on a team to manipulate a spread. Why would a player care how much his school pocketed? That player might even be paying tuition haha. If you honestly don't plan on having a future in football then why not try to get paid now. A related argument is why would Cam Newton ask to get paid for play now when he's probably going to the NFL. Again there is no clear proof this is true but you also can't disprove it.
All a kicker has to do is show up to the NFL Combine and make 50+ yard field goals and make the 45 yarders with consistency. That's about it.
Quote Originally Posted by Syddigs:
I am glad that you brought the word " retard " into this thread, because you my moronic, inbred friend are exactly that.
While you are showing us how fucking stupid you truly are, please tell us how much do you think the kicker pocketed? No ask yourself how much the school would have pocketed for finishing #2.
Then think about the kickers career. He missed two massive FGs and now has no career in the NFL. Please tell us how much was needed for this kid to do what you say he did.
P.S. Time to change the tin foil hat on your head you fucking space cadet!
Let me just start this conversation by saying that I do not at all believe in fixing, but I also don't believe its not possible. Anyway, I don't disagree with you obviously on your main point but this argument just has too many holes.
You can't deny how easy it would be for one player on a team to manipulate a spread. Why would a player care how much his school pocketed? That player might even be paying tuition haha. If you honestly don't plan on having a future in football then why not try to get paid now. A related argument is why would Cam Newton ask to get paid for play now when he's probably going to the NFL. Again there is no clear proof this is true but you also can't disprove it.
All a kicker has to do is show up to the NFL Combine and make 50+ yard field goals and make the 45 yarders with consistency. That's about it.
I had the UNDER 68' for the game(posted on this forum),
I hated Brotzman when he missed the chipshot with 2 seconds left in the game, and loved him when he missed another chipshot in overtime. Game went UNDER, that's all that matters to me.
If it had gone over, I certainly would not be crying about how these games are"fixed"
Only MUSHES cry about a bad loss, and claim that a game is fixed.
You don't hear a peep out of these same BOZO'S when they get lucky(really lucky) and actually win a game ATS.........
MEMO TO ALL MUSHES:
IF YOU THINK THAT THESE GAMES ARE 'FIXED' DON'T BET ON THEM!!!
Oh by the way,
I had the UNDER 68' for the game(posted on this forum),
I hated Brotzman when he missed the chipshot with 2 seconds left in the game, and loved him when he missed another chipshot in overtime. Game went UNDER, that's all that matters to me.
If it had gone over, I certainly would not be crying about how these games are"fixed"
Only MUSHES cry about a bad loss, and claim that a game is fixed.
You don't hear a peep out of these same BOZO'S when they get lucky(really lucky) and actually win a game ATS.........
MEMO TO ALL MUSHES:
IF YOU THINK THAT THESE GAMES ARE 'FIXED' DON'T BET ON THEM!!!
Let me just start this conversation by saying that I do not at all believe in fixing, but I also don't believe its not possible. Anyway, I don't disagree with you obviously on your main point but this argument just has too many holes.
You can't deny how easy it would be for one player on a team to manipulate a spread. Why would a player care how much his school pocketed? That player might even be paying tuition haha. If you honestly don't plan on having a future in football then why not try to get paid now. A related argument is why would Cam Newton ask to get paid for play now when he's probably going to the NFL. Again there is no clear proof this is true but you also can't disprove it.
All a kicker has to do is show up to the NFL Combine and make 50+ yard field goals and make the 45 yarders with consistency. That's about it.
Are you really that naive? Do you not think that the stigma of missing two FGs in this game won't follow this kid? Do you really not believe that boosters would have set this kid up for life if they made a BCS bowl on his boot?
Jeff Reed was a kicker on a team that won multiple SuperBowls and he is now unemployed due to missing a couple of regular season games.
A kickers job in the FL is the most feeble one there is. You have a two time Superbowl winning kicker out of work and you think it's easy for any kicker to show up at the combine. You are a clowm. Now please tell me more about how promising Brotzsman's NFL future is after missing two HUGE FGs tonight.
Quote Originally Posted by dnt_fade_me_bro:
Let me just start this conversation by saying that I do not at all believe in fixing, but I also don't believe its not possible. Anyway, I don't disagree with you obviously on your main point but this argument just has too many holes.
You can't deny how easy it would be for one player on a team to manipulate a spread. Why would a player care how much his school pocketed? That player might even be paying tuition haha. If you honestly don't plan on having a future in football then why not try to get paid now. A related argument is why would Cam Newton ask to get paid for play now when he's probably going to the NFL. Again there is no clear proof this is true but you also can't disprove it.
All a kicker has to do is show up to the NFL Combine and make 50+ yard field goals and make the 45 yarders with consistency. That's about it.
Are you really that naive? Do you not think that the stigma of missing two FGs in this game won't follow this kid? Do you really not believe that boosters would have set this kid up for life if they made a BCS bowl on his boot?
Jeff Reed was a kicker on a team that won multiple SuperBowls and he is now unemployed due to missing a couple of regular season games.
A kickers job in the FL is the most feeble one there is. You have a two time Superbowl winning kicker out of work and you think it's easy for any kicker to show up at the combine. You are a clowm. Now please tell me more about how promising Brotzsman's NFL future is after missing two HUGE FGs tonight.
Thanks for the personal insults. When there are players not even playing in the NFL one day and starting the next week you're calling me the clown. There are several teams in need of a backup kicker and some teams have kickers that specialize in kickoffs rather than actual FG's. The point is that there are several options for aspiring kickers and even outside the NFL. Oh well, I guess Chris Webber shouldn't have played in the NBA either.
Thanks for the personal insults. When there are players not even playing in the NFL one day and starting the next week you're calling me the clown. There are several teams in need of a backup kicker and some teams have kickers that specialize in kickoffs rather than actual FG's. The point is that there are several options for aspiring kickers and even outside the NFL. Oh well, I guess Chris Webber shouldn't have played in the NBA either.
Thanks for the personal insults. When there are players not even playing in the NFL one day and starting the next week you're calling me the clown. There are several teams in need of a backup kicker and some teams have kickers that specialize in kickoffs rather than actual FG's. The point is that there are several options for aspiring kickers and even outside the NFL. Oh well, I guess Chris Webber shouldn't have played in the NBA either.
I called you naive. If you took this as insult then you you obviously have very soft skin. Very, very, very soft.
Tell me more about teams that have backup kickers. I am very interested to hear and learn more about the squads that have back up kickers on their rosters. There are a lot of teams who choose not to have a 3rd QB. Yet you are trying to tell to tell us that that team have " backups " kickers.
Yes, there are a couple of teams that may have a FG kicker and a guy for kickoffs. But please tell me about the teams who have backups kickers for these guys. Most NFL teams have one kicker for FGs and kickoffs. the team that has two is a rarity.
P.S I would love to hear about the career OUTSIDE the NFL for an aspiring kicker. Please tell me more about that. I have kicked a football a few times, maybe I could have a secondary career.
Quote Originally Posted by dnt_fade_me_bro:
Thanks for the personal insults. When there are players not even playing in the NFL one day and starting the next week you're calling me the clown. There are several teams in need of a backup kicker and some teams have kickers that specialize in kickoffs rather than actual FG's. The point is that there are several options for aspiring kickers and even outside the NFL. Oh well, I guess Chris Webber shouldn't have played in the NBA either.
I called you naive. If you took this as insult then you you obviously have very soft skin. Very, very, very soft.
Tell me more about teams that have backup kickers. I am very interested to hear and learn more about the squads that have back up kickers on their rosters. There are a lot of teams who choose not to have a 3rd QB. Yet you are trying to tell to tell us that that team have " backups " kickers.
Yes, there are a couple of teams that may have a FG kicker and a guy for kickoffs. But please tell me about the teams who have backups kickers for these guys. Most NFL teams have one kicker for FGs and kickoffs. the team that has two is a rarity.
P.S I would love to hear about the career OUTSIDE the NFL for an aspiring kicker. Please tell me more about that. I have kicked a football a few times, maybe I could have a secondary career.
You called me a clown? Is that not an insult or do you just like clowns?
Most NFL backup kickers double up on a position. He has already been training with an NFL kicker and he doubles as a punter and a kicker. So really this guy can fulfill 3 roles. This is how he could easily be a backup kicker. But whatever, keep on calling me naive.
And opportunities outside the NFL for a kicker. How about the CFL? The NFL even seeks out tryouts from CFL kickers. If you want to learn more about kicking opportunities try out https://www.kicking.com/tryouts.asp . By the way, my college roommate became a semi-professional punter.
You called me a clown? Is that not an insult or do you just like clowns?
Most NFL backup kickers double up on a position. He has already been training with an NFL kicker and he doubles as a punter and a kicker. So really this guy can fulfill 3 roles. This is how he could easily be a backup kicker. But whatever, keep on calling me naive.
And opportunities outside the NFL for a kicker. How about the CFL? The NFL even seeks out tryouts from CFL kickers. If you want to learn more about kicking opportunities try out https://www.kicking.com/tryouts.asp . By the way, my college roommate became a semi-professional punter.
You called me a clown? Is that not an insult or do you just like clowns?
Most NFL backup kickers double up on a position. He has already been training with an NFL kicker and he doubles as a punter and a kicker. So really this guy can fulfill 3 roles. This is how he could easily be a backup kicker. But whatever, keep on calling me naive.
And opportunities outside the NFL for a kicker. How about the CFL? The NFL even seeks out tryouts from CFL kickers. If you want to learn more about kicking opportunities try out https://www.kicking.com/tryouts.asp . By the way, my college roommate became a semi-professional punter.
Why is that you didn't or could not name an NFL back up kicker? Please tell me about these kickers who double up on a position in the NFL. How many NFL kickers do you know who would readily be employed in a position other than a kicker.
Most holders for NFL FG kickers are either punters or backup QBs. If the FG kicker is not kicking the Fgs then he is doing very little.
I would love to know the secondary and third roles that a FG kicker might have on an NFL team. I would also love to know how many NFL trams actually have a paid secondary FG kicker on their roster. Most teams don't even want a 3rd QB yet you think teams want a backup FG kicker.
Please show me some examples of NFL rosters that have multiple FG kickers. While we are at it, please name me a few backup FG kickers. Who is the backup FG kicker for the Colts and the Patriots for example? Any by this, I mean who is on their roster and being paid. I am not talking about a kicker brought in to replace the injured first string kicker. After all, you said many teams have backup kickers on their roster.
Quote Originally Posted by dnt_fade_me_bro:
You called me a clown? Is that not an insult or do you just like clowns?
Most NFL backup kickers double up on a position. He has already been training with an NFL kicker and he doubles as a punter and a kicker. So really this guy can fulfill 3 roles. This is how he could easily be a backup kicker. But whatever, keep on calling me naive.
And opportunities outside the NFL for a kicker. How about the CFL? The NFL even seeks out tryouts from CFL kickers. If you want to learn more about kicking opportunities try out https://www.kicking.com/tryouts.asp . By the way, my college roommate became a semi-professional punter.
Why is that you didn't or could not name an NFL back up kicker? Please tell me about these kickers who double up on a position in the NFL. How many NFL kickers do you know who would readily be employed in a position other than a kicker.
Most holders for NFL FG kickers are either punters or backup QBs. If the FG kicker is not kicking the Fgs then he is doing very little.
I would love to know the secondary and third roles that a FG kicker might have on an NFL team. I would also love to know how many NFL trams actually have a paid secondary FG kicker on their roster. Most teams don't even want a 3rd QB yet you think teams want a backup FG kicker.
Please show me some examples of NFL rosters that have multiple FG kickers. While we are at it, please name me a few backup FG kickers. Who is the backup FG kicker for the Colts and the Patriots for example? Any by this, I mean who is on their roster and being paid. I am not talking about a kicker brought in to replace the injured first string kicker. After all, you said many teams have backup kickers on their roster.
Syddigs, the conspiracy idiots do not let facts get in the way of their absurd thinking. If it was a foregone conclusion, then that FG kicker was so good that he BARELY missed 2 of them. If he was paid off for some strange reason, he would have badly SHANKED them both. But once again, conspiracy idiots just cry foul when something against the norm inevitably happens.
Every once in a while a good conspiracy theory is worth listening to, but this one has NO merit and those that lay claim to it look foolish in the process.
Syddigs, the conspiracy idiots do not let facts get in the way of their absurd thinking. If it was a foregone conclusion, then that FG kicker was so good that he BARELY missed 2 of them. If he was paid off for some strange reason, he would have badly SHANKED them both. But once again, conspiracy idiots just cry foul when something against the norm inevitably happens.
Every once in a while a good conspiracy theory is worth listening to, but this one has NO merit and those that lay claim to it look foolish in the process.
You called me a clown? Is that not an insult or do you just like clowns?
Most NFL backup kickers double up on a position. He has already been training with an NFL kicker and he doubles as a punter and a kicker. So really this guy can fulfill 3 roles. This is how he could easily be a backup kicker. But whatever, keep on calling me naive.
And opportunities outside the NFL for a kicker. How about the CFL? The NFL even seeks out tryouts from CFL kickers. If you want to learn more about kicking opportunities try out https://www.kicking.com/tryouts.asp . By the way, my college roommate became a semi-professional punter.
So he DOUBLES as a punter and a kicker yet the guy can fulfill THREE roles?
Please free to explain to me how doubling your roles can triple them.
Quote Originally Posted by dnt_fade_me_bro:
You called me a clown? Is that not an insult or do you just like clowns?
Most NFL backup kickers double up on a position. He has already been training with an NFL kicker and he doubles as a punter and a kicker. So really this guy can fulfill 3 roles. This is how he could easily be a backup kicker. But whatever, keep on calling me naive.
And opportunities outside the NFL for a kicker. How about the CFL? The NFL even seeks out tryouts from CFL kickers. If you want to learn more about kicking opportunities try out https://www.kicking.com/tryouts.asp . By the way, my college roommate became a semi-professional punter.
So he DOUBLES as a punter and a kicker yet the guy can fulfill THREE roles?
Please free to explain to me how doubling your roles can triple them.
Let me just start this conversation by saying that I do not at all believe in fixing, but I also don't believe its not possible. Anyway, I don't disagree with you obviously on your main point but this argument just has too many holes.
You can't deny how easy it would be for one player on a team to manipulate a spread. Why would a player care how much his school pocketed? That player might even be paying tuition haha. If you honestly don't plan on having a future in football then why not try to get paid now. A related argument is why would Cam Newton ask to get paid for play now when he's probably going to the NFL. Again there is no clear proof this is true but you also can't disprove it.
All a kicker has to do is show up to the NFL Combine and make 50+ yard field goals and make the 45 yarders with consistency. That's about it.
I ignored this earlier but after subsequent idiotic posts I decided to use your own words to prove your stupidity.
You stumbled upon this story a couple weeks ago and thought it was news. Let me tell you something DIPSHIT, there is nothing NOW about it. This is old news. Newton's Father asked for money from any school that wanted him to play for them. Newton, and his Father, NEVER asked for money NOW. See how stupid you are?
The Newton story goes back to when he was looking for a school to go to . It has nothing to do with him being paid NOW. It goes back to his Father shopping around his son to a Div A school.
That comment shows you how clueless you are. And in light of how fucking stupid and clueless you truly are, I will take back my mention of the word " clown ". Me putting you in the same boat as a clown is insulting to clowns.
You are a clueless fuck who only digs a deeper and dumber grave with every comment. Please tell us more about backup kickers and Cam Newton. You will see China soon with the way you dig.
You are classic fade material. Everything out of your mouth is complete and utter shit.
Quote Originally Posted by dnt_fade_me_bro:
Let me just start this conversation by saying that I do not at all believe in fixing, but I also don't believe its not possible. Anyway, I don't disagree with you obviously on your main point but this argument just has too many holes.
You can't deny how easy it would be for one player on a team to manipulate a spread. Why would a player care how much his school pocketed? That player might even be paying tuition haha. If you honestly don't plan on having a future in football then why not try to get paid now. A related argument is why would Cam Newton ask to get paid for play now when he's probably going to the NFL. Again there is no clear proof this is true but you also can't disprove it.
All a kicker has to do is show up to the NFL Combine and make 50+ yard field goals and make the 45 yarders with consistency. That's about it.
I ignored this earlier but after subsequent idiotic posts I decided to use your own words to prove your stupidity.
You stumbled upon this story a couple weeks ago and thought it was news. Let me tell you something DIPSHIT, there is nothing NOW about it. This is old news. Newton's Father asked for money from any school that wanted him to play for them. Newton, and his Father, NEVER asked for money NOW. See how stupid you are?
The Newton story goes back to when he was looking for a school to go to . It has nothing to do with him being paid NOW. It goes back to his Father shopping around his son to a Div A school.
That comment shows you how clueless you are. And in light of how fucking stupid and clueless you truly are, I will take back my mention of the word " clown ". Me putting you in the same boat as a clown is insulting to clowns.
You are a clueless fuck who only digs a deeper and dumber grave with every comment. Please tell us more about backup kickers and Cam Newton. You will see China soon with the way you dig.
You are classic fade material. Everything out of your mouth is complete and utter shit.
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