There can be only one. Wait the line will move with you. There is only one logical 2020 style play here. Be Patient and bet 45 minutes before the game.
Most people don't seem to connect the dots, what offensive system do you think has caused Saban the most trouble over the years and on stages like this? Meyers offenses, it's the same system that's always had success against Nick, what system to do you think Mullen runs that yet again gave them hell and were within an inch of death against an awful Florida defense and not even 1/4th of the talent on Ohio States roster possesses. Meyers offensive system has beaten Saban as much as anyone on the big stage, 08 they won by double digits in Atlanta with Mullen as the OC and Percy Harvin DIDNT EVEN PLAY. Buckeye were huge dogs again in 2015 in Sugar Bowl, same system ran through them all night.. There's been a theme here for years and no one has even pointed it out
What system do you think Ryan Day is running still? and not only that, with yet another mobile QB, Trask threw all over them and looks like a sack of potatoes when he tries to run 2 yards.. Fields has Olave, two unbelievable TE's that can block and catch passes, two legit backs and more.. If Ohio State doesn't win this game it's gonna be because they lose the turnover battle and their DL didn't do enough to throw off Jones timing in passing game.
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Most people don't seem to connect the dots, what offensive system do you think has caused Saban the most trouble over the years and on stages like this? Meyers offenses, it's the same system that's always had success against Nick, what system to do you think Mullen runs that yet again gave them hell and were within an inch of death against an awful Florida defense and not even 1/4th of the talent on Ohio States roster possesses. Meyers offensive system has beaten Saban as much as anyone on the big stage, 08 they won by double digits in Atlanta with Mullen as the OC and Percy Harvin DIDNT EVEN PLAY. Buckeye were huge dogs again in 2015 in Sugar Bowl, same system ran through them all night.. There's been a theme here for years and no one has even pointed it out
What system do you think Ryan Day is running still? and not only that, with yet another mobile QB, Trask threw all over them and looks like a sack of potatoes when he tries to run 2 yards.. Fields has Olave, two unbelievable TE's that can block and catch passes, two legit backs and more.. If Ohio State doesn't win this game it's gonna be because they lose the turnover battle and their DL didn't do enough to throw off Jones timing in passing game.
Another thing you're right about it is the checking money and the tickets. Their ratio to see where the fat money goes.
Where ya goin' with that gun in your hand?
This conversation comes up a few times a year, the one where no one really has an idea where the money and tickets are.
I don't have the wherewithal to explain the argument as to why large sportsbooks are not really just going to just expose their action and open their books to the general public via some data feed to a third party.
These large sports books are corporate and have auditors (Gold Nugget, YouWager, Pinny, Willie Hill, MGM Grand, Stations, Bookmaker, Westgate...)
These ticket counts and where the money is websites are getting their data from Cover Contests and other BS websites and NOT from real sports books. Otherwise they would mention where the data comes from, no? "Direct from our partners over at the Westgate we present to you for $25/month..."
Go ahead, ask them what is their source, who they partnered with to get these ticket counts and handles. You won't get an answer because the info is a farce.
Contact any of the sportsbooks mentioned in the above list and ask them where you can go to get access to their handles and ticket counts. If they are revealing that info then they are getting a cut from the website that is selling the info and will gladly lead you there to sign up.
Think about it. Those ticket counts and % of money are coming from Skips Sportsbook located on a side street in Laughlin - or from some non money contest site.
The pen is mightier than the pigs
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Another thing you're right about it is the checking money and the tickets. Their ratio to see where the fat money goes.
Where ya goin' with that gun in your hand?
This conversation comes up a few times a year, the one where no one really has an idea where the money and tickets are.
I don't have the wherewithal to explain the argument as to why large sportsbooks are not really just going to just expose their action and open their books to the general public via some data feed to a third party.
These large sports books are corporate and have auditors (Gold Nugget, YouWager, Pinny, Willie Hill, MGM Grand, Stations, Bookmaker, Westgate...)
These ticket counts and where the money is websites are getting their data from Cover Contests and other BS websites and NOT from real sports books. Otherwise they would mention where the data comes from, no? "Direct from our partners over at the Westgate we present to you for $25/month..."
Go ahead, ask them what is their source, who they partnered with to get these ticket counts and handles. You won't get an answer because the info is a farce.
Contact any of the sportsbooks mentioned in the above list and ask them where you can go to get access to their handles and ticket counts. If they are revealing that info then they are getting a cut from the website that is selling the info and will gladly lead you there to sign up.
Think about it. Those ticket counts and % of money are coming from Skips Sportsbook located on a side street in Laughlin - or from some non money contest site.
William Hill will give that info on Twitter on some games (some times when it's lopsided or because it is interesting) every now and then usually after the game is off the board, but not always.
The pen is mightier than the pigs
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William Hill will give that info on Twitter on some games (some times when it's lopsided or because it is interesting) every now and then usually after the game is off the board, but not always.
If Fields and Ohio State are not locked in from snap 1, it can easily be 21-0 Bama before you know it in the first quarter. I think you’re betting on how well Ohio State and Fields will duplicate their offense performance like vs Clemson. The Northwestern game showed me Fields is not a star caliber NFL QB.
What Alabama team have you watched to believe their defense is even close to Northwestern's? It's the same game as Clemson.. their linebackers are not good in coverage and any team they played that has a good dynamic offense exposed that. To believe Alabama could be up 21-0 against State is implying they can stop Ohio State which we have enough evidence to show that will not be the case.
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If Fields and Ohio State are not locked in from snap 1, it can easily be 21-0 Bama before you know it in the first quarter. I think you’re betting on how well Ohio State and Fields will duplicate their offense performance like vs Clemson. The Northwestern game showed me Fields is not a star caliber NFL QB.
What Alabama team have you watched to believe their defense is even close to Northwestern's? It's the same game as Clemson.. their linebackers are not good in coverage and any team they played that has a good dynamic offense exposed that. To believe Alabama could be up 21-0 against State is implying they can stop Ohio State which we have enough evidence to show that will not be the case.
@barneybeans ...there are private sites based on strict membership who gather that info from their sources at the public and off shore books and sell it for quite a fat monthly membership fee. Not only that - you have to be recommended by someone they already work with to have a shot at becoming a member.
"private sites based on strict membership who gather that info from their sources at the public and off shore books"
Could you be more vague?
Although Mathew Holt, Bob Scucci and another one offshore (Can't remember, one of the books in CR) have said on podcasts that this info does not leave the sportsbook I guess you are trying to say this is clandestine, the info being farmed by moles in the operation over at the Westgate and the MGM Grand and places like that (Not Skips Bookie joint in Laughlin) and they are somehow getting their hands on this data and feeding it real time, off the network where they work, unbeknownst to the IT and cyber security departments to these secret places you speak of - since it's underhanded they can't really reveal the source of the data, I understand now.
The pen is mightier than the pigs
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@barneybeans ...there are private sites based on strict membership who gather that info from their sources at the public and off shore books and sell it for quite a fat monthly membership fee. Not only that - you have to be recommended by someone they already work with to have a shot at becoming a member.
"private sites based on strict membership who gather that info from their sources at the public and off shore books"
Could you be more vague?
Although Mathew Holt, Bob Scucci and another one offshore (Can't remember, one of the books in CR) have said on podcasts that this info does not leave the sportsbook I guess you are trying to say this is clandestine, the info being farmed by moles in the operation over at the Westgate and the MGM Grand and places like that (Not Skips Bookie joint in Laughlin) and they are somehow getting their hands on this data and feeding it real time, off the network where they work, unbeknownst to the IT and cyber security departments to these secret places you speak of - since it's underhanded they can't really reveal the source of the data, I understand now.
Yeah, what he said. Hey, anything can happen. It is sports but my dumb sports book hit +10 already today. My smart sports book dropped from +9 +$110 TO +9 -$120. They like 9 for whatever reason they are moving the vig big time. I got the best ML I could +$280, going to hit it again now at +$260. Not betting a lot on the game. I will admit I am burned out after hitting my MLS and Teasers and selling half my MLs, also snuck in a good paying NCAAB . I just feel flat and tired. Not a good place to be into place bets. Will just tail soccer for awhile. Maybe I have covid . Good Luck tonight, whomever you choose
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Yeah, what he said. Hey, anything can happen. It is sports but my dumb sports book hit +10 already today. My smart sports book dropped from +9 +$110 TO +9 -$120. They like 9 for whatever reason they are moving the vig big time. I got the best ML I could +$280, going to hit it again now at +$260. Not betting a lot on the game. I will admit I am burned out after hitting my MLS and Teasers and selling half my MLs, also snuck in a good paying NCAAB . I just feel flat and tired. Not a good place to be into place bets. Will just tail soccer for awhile. Maybe I have covid . Good Luck tonight, whomever you choose
I get it from tellers at a small casino. Best information I can come by , I don't get it from the internet and surprisingly it isn't illegal it is their opinion on how many bets and tickets they wrote it isn't gleaned from the sports book data base.
God is Good and the Ball don't Lie.
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@barneybeans
I get it from tellers at a small casino. Best information I can come by , I don't get it from the internet and surprisingly it isn't illegal it is their opinion on how many bets and tickets they wrote it isn't gleaned from the sports book data base.
Uh huh. I’m sure frank. It never ceases to amaze me with your posts. You always got some sort of fan fiction your rambling on to us all. You don’t really think or expect us to believe 90 percent of it do you? But anyways. Good luck with your monster
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Uh huh. I’m sure frank. It never ceases to amaze me with your posts. You always got some sort of fan fiction your rambling on to us all. You don’t really think or expect us to believe 90 percent of it do you? But anyways. Good luck with your monster
Quote I suggest you take your own merit to the info you gather rather than quote beginnerboy or frankthebankss or even 14allall41 for that matter. I appreciate you trying to be helpful and give a right advise based on the fact that everyone else are just kids. But, that is not so. Like all the greats that have ever visited covers or retired from covers to start their own successful websites have always relied on one thing only: the house always wins. If you know where the house money is at - you do the same and more times than not you will win
Hey Joe...LOL, bud...think what you like...say what you assume to be true...I had my analysis years ago, and since 14allall41 showed up and talked about indicators and ratios I thought I'd ask him because you still think you can look at a sheet of paper on Sunday morning at 12 noon and it's gonna tell you where the steam is and where the RLM is happening. Don't work that way. I always ask when guys come on and write about the % of MONEY being such and such. You talked about that in your reply to FRANK tonight. Tell me where you find the % of money, bud? You can't. You can find the % of tickets written on the ML...but not the money...which i was trying politely to tell you about. And even with the %...if you wait til an hour before game time (as you say is absolutely necessary to do), you might just as well throw darts at the board if you think you'll find FAT MONEY at 12 noon on a Sunday.
But whatever...I see that trying to help out is not necessary since you've got it all down cold. Bang those books then!!!
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Quote I suggest you take your own merit to the info you gather rather than quote beginnerboy or frankthebankss or even 14allall41 for that matter. I appreciate you trying to be helpful and give a right advise based on the fact that everyone else are just kids. But, that is not so. Like all the greats that have ever visited covers or retired from covers to start their own successful websites have always relied on one thing only: the house always wins. If you know where the house money is at - you do the same and more times than not you will win
Hey Joe...LOL, bud...think what you like...say what you assume to be true...I had my analysis years ago, and since 14allall41 showed up and talked about indicators and ratios I thought I'd ask him because you still think you can look at a sheet of paper on Sunday morning at 12 noon and it's gonna tell you where the steam is and where the RLM is happening. Don't work that way. I always ask when guys come on and write about the % of MONEY being such and such. You talked about that in your reply to FRANK tonight. Tell me where you find the % of money, bud? You can't. You can find the % of tickets written on the ML...but not the money...which i was trying politely to tell you about. And even with the %...if you wait til an hour before game time (as you say is absolutely necessary to do), you might just as well throw darts at the board if you think you'll find FAT MONEY at 12 noon on a Sunday.
But whatever...I see that trying to help out is not necessary since you've got it all down cold. Bang those books then!!!
Chinese are still really touchy about the British forcing opium upon the entire population to balance the trade deficit with the Middle Kingdom and the beginning of the century of humiliation, 90% of the populace was addicted after having the world's largest economy for 4,800 years Britain became the workshop of the world and produced 87% of the world's textiles feed by USA slave cotton. You would think it happened a decade ago the way the young people speak in China. I think fentanyl was their revenge.A 5000 year old civilization that said it needed nothing from The West has a long memory. History repeats itself. There is no way in he'll the USA economy is #1, no way. The wealth in China is staggering in numbers. China is just reclaiming the position they held for 48 centuries, they had a rough one and a half centuries but Napoleon was right "Let the China dragon sleep, for when she wakes, the world will tremble." BTW Chinese people are great. Most honest and hard working people I have ever dealt with in business. Now Xi, he is fucking crazy. When Pelosi said it was beautiful watching the Hong Kongers storm and vandalize the Hong Kong House Capitol. She sure didn't think it was beautiful in the USA, ain't that kinda funny. Fuck politics, I follow one political party, The Frank Party, it is a party of one. Be nice to all you meet both low and high and don't trust the well dressed high ones cause they have buried and backstabbed a whole lot of bodies to rise to that high status and used the bodies as steps to achieve their height. But yeah, Asian people are cool, European people are smart, Americans, hey I am one of Us but We are bat shite crazy and delusional. I may not be able to vote in China but I have never felt freeer then living there, nobody gives a fuck what the foreigner is doing
God is Good and the Ball don't Lie.
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@HeyJoe
Chinese are still really touchy about the British forcing opium upon the entire population to balance the trade deficit with the Middle Kingdom and the beginning of the century of humiliation, 90% of the populace was addicted after having the world's largest economy for 4,800 years Britain became the workshop of the world and produced 87% of the world's textiles feed by USA slave cotton. You would think it happened a decade ago the way the young people speak in China. I think fentanyl was their revenge.A 5000 year old civilization that said it needed nothing from The West has a long memory. History repeats itself. There is no way in he'll the USA economy is #1, no way. The wealth in China is staggering in numbers. China is just reclaiming the position they held for 48 centuries, they had a rough one and a half centuries but Napoleon was right "Let the China dragon sleep, for when she wakes, the world will tremble." BTW Chinese people are great. Most honest and hard working people I have ever dealt with in business. Now Xi, he is fucking crazy. When Pelosi said it was beautiful watching the Hong Kongers storm and vandalize the Hong Kong House Capitol. She sure didn't think it was beautiful in the USA, ain't that kinda funny. Fuck politics, I follow one political party, The Frank Party, it is a party of one. Be nice to all you meet both low and high and don't trust the well dressed high ones cause they have buried and backstabbed a whole lot of bodies to rise to that high status and used the bodies as steps to achieve their height. But yeah, Asian people are cool, European people are smart, Americans, hey I am one of Us but We are bat shite crazy and delusional. I may not be able to vote in China but I have never felt freeer then living there, nobody gives a fuck what the foreigner is doing
Maybe go back and take a look at 14allall41's posts and tell me when he starts talking IN REAL NUMBERS about %s and ratios and variations and indicators. If you want get real...do that. If you wanna talk smack, then don't bother. We can talk then, brother...or not, your choice. Did he ever talk in REAL NUMBERS and ratios, etc? Nothing against 14allall41...he's a true gentleman and we're fine as far as I'm aware.
In the meantime...since I'm sure your a seeker of the truth...maybe hit the search feature for me and go to 1/5 and my reply on oldwiseone's thread "Wildcard Weekend" about the Bills vs Colts. Then tell me if you think I started asking 14allall41 for information. You might realize the opposite. Always nice to hear how guys cap games.
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@HeyJoe
Maybe go back and take a look at 14allall41's posts and tell me when he starts talking IN REAL NUMBERS about %s and ratios and variations and indicators. If you want get real...do that. If you wanna talk smack, then don't bother. We can talk then, brother...or not, your choice. Did he ever talk in REAL NUMBERS and ratios, etc? Nothing against 14allall41...he's a true gentleman and we're fine as far as I'm aware.
In the meantime...since I'm sure your a seeker of the truth...maybe hit the search feature for me and go to 1/5 and my reply on oldwiseone's thread "Wildcard Weekend" about the Bills vs Colts. Then tell me if you think I started asking 14allall41 for information. You might realize the opposite. Always nice to hear how guys cap games.
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