Excellent write up as always. Don't post often, but when on this site use your thread as a reference. Like a lot of what was said here so far, just would caution the WKU play. Navy off another bye week, and was on the road v. an Indiana team that poses many of the same problems WKU does, only a bit stronger team IMHO. Navy was clearly the better team that Saturday, and I think they will be again this coming Saturday. Middies' defense improved from last year, particularly the secondary, and Reynolds is the real deal at QB, probably the best signal caller, passer and pure triple option reader Navy has had in quite sometime, and he just doesn't turn the ball over.
just my .02. Thanks, and continued gl.
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Excellent write up as always. Don't post often, but when on this site use your thread as a reference. Like a lot of what was said here so far, just would caution the WKU play. Navy off another bye week, and was on the road v. an Indiana team that poses many of the same problems WKU does, only a bit stronger team IMHO. Navy was clearly the better team that Saturday, and I think they will be again this coming Saturday. Middies' defense improved from last year, particularly the secondary, and Reynolds is the real deal at QB, probably the best signal caller, passer and pure triple option reader Navy has had in quite sometime, and he just doesn't turn the ball over.
this trend, and the fact you and a couple others like FAU, will probably keep me off of Rice... but between me and you, i think Rice can put up big numbers against FAU, and take out some frustration after playing much tougher competition...
if the line keeps dropping, i might still have to consider it... at some point, that road dog trend is going to go out the window... this week seems as good as any...
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Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:
this trend, and the fact you and a couple others like FAU, will probably keep me off of Rice... but between me and you, i think Rice can put up big numbers against FAU, and take out some frustration after playing much tougher competition...
if the line keeps dropping, i might still have to consider it... at some point, that road dog trend is going to go out the window... this week seems as good as any...
this trend, and the fact you and a couple others like FAU, will probably keep me off of Rice... but between me and you, i think Rice can put up big numbers against FAU, and take out some frustration after playing much tougher competition...
if the line keeps dropping, i might still have to consider it... at some point, that road dog trend is going to go out the window... this week seems as good as any...
yeah don't love it..... *but Rice off tough run...@ Aggies > Kansas (big win vs B12) > rival Houston .....with Tulsa on deck
FAU .....strength wise.... remember about the same team as Kansas....won't be afraid here.... *LY covers at Bama and Georgia....TY covers at Miami and EC (tough place to play)..... note: explosive Canes had 34 pts.....EC 31 pts in fact....Bama is the last team to score 40 on FAU (week 4 LY)....their points allowed? starting with Bama LY...... 40 > 20 > 35 > 37 > 27 > 24 > 28 > 34 > 35 34 > 31 > 10 > 35 (reg).... **SB teams can move it too....Troy...ULL...ULM
That D is fairly steady....looks like Rice is gonna score 31-35 tops .....FAU 21-25 or so..... *Rice is tough at home too... trend wise...13-4-1 ATS seems like............ .
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Quote Originally Posted by Ice4Blood:
this trend, and the fact you and a couple others like FAU, will probably keep me off of Rice... but between me and you, i think Rice can put up big numbers against FAU, and take out some frustration after playing much tougher competition...
if the line keeps dropping, i might still have to consider it... at some point, that road dog trend is going to go out the window... this week seems as good as any...
yeah don't love it..... *but Rice off tough run...@ Aggies > Kansas (big win vs B12) > rival Houston .....with Tulsa on deck
FAU .....strength wise.... remember about the same team as Kansas....won't be afraid here.... *LY covers at Bama and Georgia....TY covers at Miami and EC (tough place to play)..... note: explosive Canes had 34 pts.....EC 31 pts in fact....Bama is the last team to score 40 on FAU (week 4 LY)....their points allowed? starting with Bama LY...... 40 > 20 > 35 > 37 > 27 > 24 > 28 > 34 > 35 34 > 31 > 10 > 35 (reg).... **SB teams can move it too....Troy...ULL...ULM
That D is fairly steady....looks like Rice is gonna score 31-35 tops .....FAU 21-25 or so..... *Rice is tough at home too... trend wise...13-4-1 ATS seems like............ .
Excellent write up as always. Don't post often, but when on this site use your thread as a reference. Like a lot of what was said here so far, just would caution the WKU play. Navy off another bye week, and was on the road v. an Indiana team that poses many of the same problems WKU does, only a bit stronger team IMHO. Navy was clearly the better team that Saturday, and I think they will be again this coming Saturday. Middies' defense improved from last year, particularly the secondary, and Reynolds is the real deal at QB, probably the best signal caller, passer and pure triple option reader Navy has had in quite sometime, and he just doesn't turn the ball over.
just my .02. Thanks, and continued gl.
the one thing here that scares the hell outta WKU backers.....is of course the unbelievable TO machine in QB Doughty........ *my game plan ?.....call him Sat morning and ask him who he's betting on this week...why not your OWN TEAM....wtf?
My thinking....is that he (might not start) will play the Toppers this week ....damm guy threw 3 4th qtr picks vs S Alabama......
I will possibly hedge with a little in-game action.....as I think we'll know quickly how this one will play-out....
But I'll take....
*the very physical running team.....(5.0/rush vs Tenn.....5.3 vs Kentucky)......6.2/rush ... 228/ game on the year......#9 in nation...big / veteran OL (102 starts with 3 5th year Srs...260+ lb FB.....TB Andrews (8.4/rush) and 220+....back-ups 235 (5.9) and 245 (4.5)......vs Navy.......struggles vs physical OL's
*A top dog.....13-2 ATS (one of those L's Navy)......19-3 or so run ..........vs Navy in a (very uncomfortable role) as a road favorite.......WITH AIR FORCE ON DECK.....
The problem in evaluating Navy.....so how tough is Indiana?.....answer > not very.....when's the last time Mizzou had 623 yds TO....and 33 FD.....on the road? Bowling Green probably no big deal either.....caught Tulsa and the Flashes at a bad time ................
Good man av8rg8r.....thanks for dropping in.......
Navy no doubt appears to be the 'smart' play......(that WKU run D shaky as well so far)..... BUT........I believe.....in Bobby P.... tremendous coach and top-notch person-dog......
BOL this week.........
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Quote Originally Posted by av8rg8r:
Excellent write up as always. Don't post often, but when on this site use your thread as a reference. Like a lot of what was said here so far, just would caution the WKU play. Navy off another bye week, and was on the road v. an Indiana team that poses many of the same problems WKU does, only a bit stronger team IMHO. Navy was clearly the better team that Saturday, and I think they will be again this coming Saturday. Middies' defense improved from last year, particularly the secondary, and Reynolds is the real deal at QB, probably the best signal caller, passer and pure triple option reader Navy has had in quite sometime, and he just doesn't turn the ball over.
just my .02. Thanks, and continued gl.
the one thing here that scares the hell outta WKU backers.....is of course the unbelievable TO machine in QB Doughty........ *my game plan ?.....call him Sat morning and ask him who he's betting on this week...why not your OWN TEAM....wtf?
My thinking....is that he (might not start) will play the Toppers this week ....damm guy threw 3 4th qtr picks vs S Alabama......
I will possibly hedge with a little in-game action.....as I think we'll know quickly how this one will play-out....
But I'll take....
*the very physical running team.....(5.0/rush vs Tenn.....5.3 vs Kentucky)......6.2/rush ... 228/ game on the year......#9 in nation...big / veteran OL (102 starts with 3 5th year Srs...260+ lb FB.....TB Andrews (8.4/rush) and 220+....back-ups 235 (5.9) and 245 (4.5)......vs Navy.......struggles vs physical OL's
*A top dog.....13-2 ATS (one of those L's Navy)......19-3 or so run ..........vs Navy in a (very uncomfortable role) as a road favorite.......WITH AIR FORCE ON DECK.....
The problem in evaluating Navy.....so how tough is Indiana?.....answer > not very.....when's the last time Mizzou had 623 yds TO....and 33 FD.....on the road? Bowling Green probably no big deal either.....caught Tulsa and the Flashes at a bad time ................
Good man av8rg8r.....thanks for dropping in.......
Navy no doubt appears to be the 'smart' play......(that WKU run D shaky as well so far)..... BUT........I believe.....in Bobby P.... tremendous coach and top-notch person-dog......
Ok St 18.5 WVA Mountaineers may be the worst team in the Big 12. *might work....but Okie St 0-5 ATS last 5 road games...keep in mind Couch Burners only lost at OU 16-7...(now appears Sooners not bad) WV might be better than we think....?.....risky IMO
Cocks 7 UCF Don't think the Knights can hold up against the Cock D. *tough game...poor value...line should be 3 or so...UCF D looks shaky tho at 7-7'...Knights or nothing for me
Pitt 6.5 VA Panthers appear to be on the rise. *??....pounded by FSU at home...sloppy vs New Mexico (allowed 27 pts / 4 TO's + 7 pen)...allowed Duke 532 TO (whopping 7.7/play) and 5.9/rush Duke with 4 costly TO's or Pitt loses....here might just outscore Virginia (big QB edge with Savage)
Oregon St 10.5 Colorado Beavers should roll the Buffs. *better not....tough to gauge Buffs reaction to being off so long...Beavs cannot run AT ALL...and D is extremely shaky....should be a really high scoring game....Col or nothing for me (might play at 10')....can't lay 10 to an explosive O (looks like)....with no D / running game
UNC 12 ECU Pirates D will have trouble with the Heel spread O. *tough one here...UNC owns EC usually...but EC tougher this year...with a better running game and QB...off bye with only MTS next UNC weak in trenches and in GT / VT sandwich....prob. play EC here....waiting on line
Ohio St 7 Wisc Buckeyes are just the better team *dunno here....stay away for me......would lean Wisky
BOL this week SA............ *unless you bet UNC or Beavs of course........
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Ok St 18.5 WVA Mountaineers may be the worst team in the Big 12. *might work....but Okie St 0-5 ATS last 5 road games...keep in mind Couch Burners only lost at OU 16-7...(now appears Sooners not bad) WV might be better than we think....?.....risky IMO
Cocks 7 UCF Don't think the Knights can hold up against the Cock D. *tough game...poor value...line should be 3 or so...UCF D looks shaky tho at 7-7'...Knights or nothing for me
Pitt 6.5 VA Panthers appear to be on the rise. *??....pounded by FSU at home...sloppy vs New Mexico (allowed 27 pts / 4 TO's + 7 pen)...allowed Duke 532 TO (whopping 7.7/play) and 5.9/rush Duke with 4 costly TO's or Pitt loses....here might just outscore Virginia (big QB edge with Savage)
Oregon St 10.5 Colorado Beavers should roll the Buffs. *better not....tough to gauge Buffs reaction to being off so long...Beavs cannot run AT ALL...and D is extremely shaky....should be a really high scoring game....Col or nothing for me (might play at 10')....can't lay 10 to an explosive O (looks like)....with no D / running game
UNC 12 ECU Pirates D will have trouble with the Heel spread O. *tough one here...UNC owns EC usually...but EC tougher this year...with a better running game and QB...off bye with only MTS next UNC weak in trenches and in GT / VT sandwich....prob. play EC here....waiting on line
Ohio St 7 Wisc Buckeyes are just the better team *dunno here....stay away for me......would lean Wisky
BOL this week SA............ *unless you bet UNC or Beavs of course........
Are you betting a 'bad number'.....? *meaning you like the team so much.....you bet it regardless of the number?
The longer I do this......the more convinced I am to stay away from this nasty habit.... *and recommend to focus....on the NUMBER...not the TEAM..... **occasionally no big deal....especially if you think the number is simply wrong....and many times they are....but usually......they're really close
1) Wazzu +10 *love Wazzu myself....but this one should be about 17 or more....if played at end of 2012...Tree would be favored by 25+ ....this year Tree (looks to be) better....so Wazzu has closed the gap by 15-20 points? what this line suggests.....is that Wazzu is now about as good as....Vandy.....Ga Tech...or Utah St...... ***unless you think that Tree is highly overrated....
SO.....Tree or nothing at anything 10 or under......
2) Utah St -10 *'should be' 6' or so....just MIGHT BE...the right line.....maybe Spartans might have fallen that far....HC making too many changes esp to O.....(unlike Utah St) if played at end of 2012...Spartans would be slight fav *plus USU off USC with BYU in 6 days......... $$ Aggies might roll....but SMART money would have to be on SJSU at 10 or so
3) Duke -10' *probably should be 4 or so.....6 pt adjustment for Troy's mail in loss at Miss St?
4) Mizzou -21 *last week maybe 10'-12....10 point swing in 1 week?
5) WM -3 *both teams stink....Flashes maybe should be small fav
6) Buff -1 *love Buffalo here....but UConn 'should be' fav by 3' or more....
7) Col St -13 *Bama mails it in...so now Rams have arrived?...combined with weak Miner effort LW....'should be' 7' or so.......
8) SCaro -7' *'should be'.....3' or so....UCF is tough and can win this one....unlike many...they have the athletes to compete with the big boys.......
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Are you betting a 'bad number'.....? *meaning you like the team so much.....you bet it regardless of the number?
The longer I do this......the more convinced I am to stay away from this nasty habit.... *and recommend to focus....on the NUMBER...not the TEAM..... **occasionally no big deal....especially if you think the number is simply wrong....and many times they are....but usually......they're really close
1) Wazzu +10 *love Wazzu myself....but this one should be about 17 or more....if played at end of 2012...Tree would be favored by 25+ ....this year Tree (looks to be) better....so Wazzu has closed the gap by 15-20 points? what this line suggests.....is that Wazzu is now about as good as....Vandy.....Ga Tech...or Utah St...... ***unless you think that Tree is highly overrated....
SO.....Tree or nothing at anything 10 or under......
2) Utah St -10 *'should be' 6' or so....just MIGHT BE...the right line.....maybe Spartans might have fallen that far....HC making too many changes esp to O.....(unlike Utah St) if played at end of 2012...Spartans would be slight fav *plus USU off USC with BYU in 6 days......... $$ Aggies might roll....but SMART money would have to be on SJSU at 10 or so
3) Duke -10' *probably should be 4 or so.....6 pt adjustment for Troy's mail in loss at Miss St?
4) Mizzou -21 *last week maybe 10'-12....10 point swing in 1 week?
5) WM -3 *both teams stink....Flashes maybe should be small fav
6) Buff -1 *love Buffalo here....but UConn 'should be' fav by 3' or more....
7) Col St -13 *Bama mails it in...so now Rams have arrived?...combined with weak Miner effort LW....'should be' 7' or so.......
8) SCaro -7' *'should be'.....3' or so....UCF is tough and can win this one....unlike many...they have the athletes to compete with the big boys.......
points should work....but UAB has BD capability.... $$ this way we eliminate that possibility....UAB pass D is TERRIBLE....and now 3 starters are OUT.....3 Fr and 1 Soph start.....vs LSU and Troy allowed 47-53 / 612 yds....6 TD / 0 INT...11.5/att....... *allowed 28 points to sorry NW St (savagely beaten 66-9 by weak Cinn earlier).....
Dores off half-azz effort last week....and Franklin loves to lay the hammer down when he can (6-2 as DD fav)... *usually never trust a QB with 3 names.....plus spelling Austin with a Y.....makes it esp. treacherous...but no big deal vs that Blazer D........
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adding....before I forget.
one unit or better.....
VANDY.....TT over 37 or so....> ain't out yet
points should work....but UAB has BD capability.... $$ this way we eliminate that possibility....UAB pass D is TERRIBLE....and now 3 starters are OUT.....3 Fr and 1 Soph start.....vs LSU and Troy allowed 47-53 / 612 yds....6 TD / 0 INT...11.5/att....... *allowed 28 points to sorry NW St (savagely beaten 66-9 by weak Cinn earlier).....
Dores off half-azz effort last week....and Franklin loves to lay the hammer down when he can (6-2 as DD fav)... *usually never trust a QB with 3 names.....plus spelling Austin with a Y.....makes it esp. treacherous...but no big deal vs that Blazer D........
bookie u like col state? I'm confused on that one, thx
naw man just saying that's a really bad 'investment'.... not that it (necessarily) won't work
KEY > is to not overreact to Saban not beating the dog - s-h-i-t outta his former OC .....that McElwain is a classy guy (seemingly) with the highest of praise for Saban.... *easy NOW....but that (CSU) was the best bet on the board last week no doubt........
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Quote Originally Posted by sportschat:
bookie u like col state? I'm confused on that one, thx
naw man just saying that's a really bad 'investment'.... not that it (necessarily) won't work
KEY > is to not overreact to Saban not beating the dog - s-h-i-t outta his former OC .....that McElwain is a classy guy (seemingly) with the highest of praise for Saban.... *easy NOW....but that (CSU) was the best bet on the board last week no doubt........
I'm a big fan of the TT vs. game totals. Seems like I can always find 5 or 6 on Sat. morning that end up working. Seldom lose with TT's and seldom win with game totals. It's odd but I know which one of those to stay away from. GL, Doc
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I'm a big fan of the TT vs. game totals. Seems like I can always find 5 or 6 on Sat. morning that end up working. Seldom lose with TT's and seldom win with game totals. It's odd but I know which one of those to stay away from. GL, Doc
Continue to be a must read every week. Great work bookie
One thing to add. I had the misfortune to watch almost all of the WV/OU game. Truly uninspired play by OU, and WVU could only muster one score, a 75 yard run for that matter. Incapable of mving the ball. I think I am talking myself into Okie state as I write...
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Continue to be a must read every week. Great work bookie
One thing to add. I had the misfortune to watch almost all of the WV/OU game. Truly uninspired play by OU, and WVU could only muster one score, a 75 yard run for that matter. Incapable of mving the ball. I think I am talking myself into Okie state as I write...
I ask you......Does anyone in covers give MORE INFORMATION and comments within the info than BA....if so...point him out cause I've never seen anyone like this guy.....not even Mr. Bator.
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I ask you......Does anyone in covers give MORE INFORMATION and comments within the info than BA....if so...point him out cause I've never seen anyone like this guy.....not even Mr. Bator.
I ask you......Does anyone in covers give MORE INFORMATION and comments within the info than BA....if so...point him out cause I've never seen anyone like this guy.....not even Mr. Bator.
bookie is a machine, one of our best
get em' BA
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Quote Originally Posted by Cooler999:
I ask you......Does anyone in covers give MORE INFORMATION and comments within the info than BA....if so...point him out cause I've never seen anyone like this guy.....not even Mr. Bator.
I'd like to hear what you have to offer in the ISU/Tulsa matchup Thursday. My initial lean is ISU, but in fairness I haven't uncovered much on either team that gives a significant advantage. This is the 3rd meeting in last 12 months, splitting the first two games. Would love to hear what you have to offer? GATech/VaTech just looks unusual for my liking thursday...but looking for an edge. Thanks.
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Book,
I'd like to hear what you have to offer in the ISU/Tulsa matchup Thursday. My initial lean is ISU, but in fairness I haven't uncovered much on either team that gives a significant advantage. This is the 3rd meeting in last 12 months, splitting the first two games. Would love to hear what you have to offer? GATech/VaTech just looks unusual for my liking thursday...but looking for an edge. Thanks.
naw man just saying that's a really bad 'investment'.... not that it (necessarily) won't work
KEY > is to not overreact to Saban not beating the dog - s-h-i-t outta his former OC .....that McElwain is a classy guy (seemingly) with the highest of praise for Saban.... *easy NOW....but that (CSU) was the best bet on the board last week no doubt........ I would say Wyoming was the best bet last week.
You can't just look at one team in a matchup.
UTEP is worse than you might think. They handled NMSt, but they got a NMSt team that Minny had just destroyed their conference.
UTEP only managed 218 yards vs UTSA. The UTEP QB only had 3.8 Yards per Attempt. They scored 13 points but that includes a kickoff return TD, so the offense only got 6 points (in only 8 drives)
The Under is probably worth a look in this game if you think COl St offense struggles, but I would expect the UTEP offense to score about 10 points or possibly get shutout
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Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:
naw man just saying that's a really bad 'investment'.... not that it (necessarily) won't work
KEY > is to not overreact to Saban not beating the dog - s-h-i-t outta his former OC .....that McElwain is a classy guy (seemingly) with the highest of praise for Saban.... *easy NOW....but that (CSU) was the best bet on the board last week no doubt........ I would say Wyoming was the best bet last week.
You can't just look at one team in a matchup.
UTEP is worse than you might think. They handled NMSt, but they got a NMSt team that Minny had just destroyed their conference.
UTEP only managed 218 yards vs UTSA. The UTEP QB only had 3.8 Yards per Attempt. They scored 13 points but that includes a kickoff return TD, so the offense only got 6 points (in only 8 drives)
The Under is probably worth a look in this game if you think COl St offense struggles, but I would expect the UTEP offense to score about 10 points or possibly get shutout
Anything new on Miami QB Morris?? Think Wash. blows the doors off of AZ! Leach loves games like this where he's the dog. IF this was in Pullman? but, it's not, like the Tree here
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Anything new on Miami QB Morris?? Think Wash. blows the doors off of AZ! Leach loves games like this where he's the dog. IF this was in Pullman? but, it's not, like the Tree here
I ask you......Does anyone in covers give MORE INFORMATION and comments within the info than BA....if so...point him out cause I've never seen anyone like this guy.....not even Mr. Bator.
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I ask you......Does anyone in covers give MORE INFORMATION and comments within the info than BA....if so...point him out cause I've never seen anyone like this guy.....not even Mr. Bator.
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