I would not touch tOSU in week against my Hoosiers...I am waiting for tOSU in week 2 against the Sooners...small spread at the shoe, hopefully at night, to get those "wonderful" ;) tOSU fans juiced up...the angles will be interesting...former OU OC Wilson, now OC at tOSU. seems like it would be a wash...OU knows Wilson's tendencies, while Wilson will have some understanding of M Stoops and OU's D...tOSU blanked 31 to 0 by a Clemson team who's DC B Venneble (sp) is the former DC for OU... I think the spread will be tOSU -3 to -4 by GT...and I think tOSU will win by 7 to 14...
Can't wait for that one
However I think Ohio St will be laying 6.5-9.5 to Oklahoma !!!
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:
I would not touch tOSU in week against my Hoosiers...I am waiting for tOSU in week 2 against the Sooners...small spread at the shoe, hopefully at night, to get those "wonderful" ;) tOSU fans juiced up...the angles will be interesting...former OU OC Wilson, now OC at tOSU. seems like it would be a wash...OU knows Wilson's tendencies, while Wilson will have some understanding of M Stoops and OU's D...tOSU blanked 31 to 0 by a Clemson team who's DC B Venneble (sp) is the former DC for OU... I think the spread will be tOSU -3 to -4 by GT...and I think tOSU will win by 7 to 14...
Can't wait for that one
However I think Ohio St will be laying 6.5-9.5 to Oklahoma !!!
Don't underestimate Rolovich. He had a pocket full of luck and a fist full of sunshine last year and I believe he did a very solid job for his first year coaching on the islands. Hawai'i may still not be good but I guarantee you the recruits he's getting and players he has under him love, respect and appreciate their coach - something I can't say for my Vols and Butch Jones...
Quote Originally Posted by Orygunner:
How about UMass getting 3.5 points at home against Hawaii? They lost 46-40 last year to the Rainbow Warriors in Aloha Stadium. UMass isn't good, but neither is Hawaii. Factor in travel distance and time zones, and I think this is a coin flip game. In a coin flip game, give me the home dog especially when they are getting more than a field goal.
Thoughts?
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Don't underestimate Rolovich. He had a pocket full of luck and a fist full of sunshine last year and I believe he did a very solid job for his first year coaching on the islands. Hawai'i may still not be good but I guarantee you the recruits he's getting and players he has under him love, respect and appreciate their coach - something I can't say for my Vols and Butch Jones...
Quote Originally Posted by Orygunner:
How about UMass getting 3.5 points at home against Hawaii? They lost 46-40 last year to the Rainbow Warriors in Aloha Stadium. UMass isn't good, but neither is Hawaii. Factor in travel distance and time zones, and I think this is a coin flip game. In a coin flip game, give me the home dog especially when they are getting more than a field goal.
Double - so you like a few dogs in week 1. What do you think about these...Temple +12 and Louisiana -Monroe +24?
I think you know I play mostly favorites where I find value. That will be the case in week 1... I just want to see if you see any life in these two particular dogs. Thank you in advance...
LonghornHoosier
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Double - so you like a few dogs in week 1. What do you think about these...Temple +12 and Louisiana -Monroe +24?
I think you know I play mostly favorites where I find value. That will be the case in week 1... I just want to see if you see any life in these two particular dogs. Thank you in advance...
Double - so you like a few dogs in week 1. What do you think about these...Temple +12 and Louisiana -Monroe +24?
I think you know I play mostly favorites where I find value. That will be the case in week 1... I just want to see if you see any life in these two particular dogs. Thank you in advance...
Hmmm not sure about either one of them
I dont like Temple this year as I have them barely making a Bowl at 6-6 ....NOTRE DAME should be thirsty for a BIG W to start off the season
ULM is now getting +25.5 and that sounds decent ...Memphis will come into this season a tad overrated as everyone's cinderella
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:
Double - so you like a few dogs in week 1. What do you think about these...Temple +12 and Louisiana -Monroe +24?
I think you know I play mostly favorites where I find value. That will be the case in week 1... I just want to see if you see any life in these two particular dogs. Thank you in advance...
Hmmm not sure about either one of them
I dont like Temple this year as I have them barely making a Bowl at 6-6 ....NOTRE DAME should be thirsty for a BIG W to start off the season
ULM is now getting +25.5 and that sounds decent ...Memphis will come into this season a tad overrated as everyone's cinderella
Complete talent mismatch, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Grab this before it crosses the key 3 number. Boston College might be a bottom feeder in the ACC but they should easily beat a mediocre MAC team like NIU. NIU was a good MAC team a few years ago but their latest coach isn't nearly as good as his predecessors and this team now gets beaten badly when it steps up to a superior conference. NIU loses when it plays out of conference, Boston College wins when it plays out of conference, expect this trend to continue.
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Boston College-2.5 at Northern Illinois.
Complete talent mismatch, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Grab this before it crosses the key 3 number. Boston College might be a bottom feeder in the ACC but they should easily beat a mediocre MAC team like NIU. NIU was a good MAC team a few years ago but their latest coach isn't nearly as good as his predecessors and this team now gets beaten badly when it steps up to a superior conference. NIU loses when it plays out of conference, Boston College wins when it plays out of conference, expect this trend to continue.
Complete talent mismatch, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Grab this before it crosses the key 3 number. Boston College might be a bottom feeder in the ACC but they should easily beat a mediocre MAC team like NIU. NIU was a good MAC team a few years ago but their latest coach isn't nearly as good as his predecessors and this team now gets beaten badly when it steps up to a superior conference. NIU loses when it plays out of conference, Boston College wins when it plays out of conference, expect this trend to continue.
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I agree, but isn't the line a bit fishy...This is a night game at NI. I agree on D, BC, has a big advantage. On O NI is integrated new skill position players, but BC is also doing the same at QB. If this game were on a neutral field or at BC, it would be -6 and -9 respectively, and that would make it a no brainer for BC...1st game, away, at night...brings me some pause. These two teams are made up of 2 and 3 star players. I analyzed BC and NI 2013-2017. BC has 64 3 star players, while NI has 29...Neither had any 4 or 5 star players. Is that a big of enough talent delta, to give in the points on the road? Let's work together to figure this out...Backing BC -2.5 is definitely in my top 6 in week 1, but not in my top 3 as of today. Cheers
LonghornHoosier
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Quote Originally Posted by lordzud:
Boston College-2.5 at Northern Illinois.
Complete talent mismatch, especially on the defensive side of the ball. Grab this before it crosses the key 3 number. Boston College might be a bottom feeder in the ACC but they should easily beat a mediocre MAC team like NIU. NIU was a good MAC team a few years ago but their latest coach isn't nearly as good as his predecessors and this team now gets beaten badly when it steps up to a superior conference. NIU loses when it plays out of conference, Boston College wins when it plays out of conference, expect this trend to continue.
everybody, fleece them greedy stinkin books
I agree, but isn't the line a bit fishy...This is a night game at NI. I agree on D, BC, has a big advantage. On O NI is integrated new skill position players, but BC is also doing the same at QB. If this game were on a neutral field or at BC, it would be -6 and -9 respectively, and that would make it a no brainer for BC...1st game, away, at night...brings me some pause. These two teams are made up of 2 and 3 star players. I analyzed BC and NI 2013-2017. BC has 64 3 star players, while NI has 29...Neither had any 4 or 5 star players. Is that a big of enough talent delta, to give in the points on the road? Let's work together to figure this out...Backing BC -2.5 is definitely in my top 6 in week 1, but not in my top 3 as of today. Cheers
* While Col State is no doubt a team to 'play on'.........so is Oregon State.........with their biggest GOY on deck (in minds of players I reckon)....in Colorado.....fired up no doubt / but new digs can be a distraction as well.....
Beavs under Andersen face a TOUGH schedule....check out his path at Utah State......very slow start then BIG improvement...
*.he REALLY needs a bowl to keep MO going >so this one a MUST win.....>> not so much for Col State (really)......Beavs only Portland State on deck
QB play a concern.....but running game and D should be pretty tough .........they have 3 very good RB's already and get former Duck Thomas Tyner....who if healthy would be a HUGE addition... /
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Like most of these...............
BUT........
* While Col State is no doubt a team to 'play on'.........so is Oregon State.........with their biggest GOY on deck (in minds of players I reckon)....in Colorado.....fired up no doubt / but new digs can be a distraction as well.....
Beavs under Andersen face a TOUGH schedule....check out his path at Utah State......very slow start then BIG improvement...
*.he REALLY needs a bowl to keep MO going >so this one a MUST win.....>> not so much for Col State (really)......Beavs only Portland State on deck
QB play a concern.....but running game and D should be pretty tough .........they have 3 very good RB's already and get former Duck Thomas Tyner....who if healthy would be a HUGE addition... /
I do not understand why Wyoming is +13, this game should be a pick em. Iowa has one returning secondary member so Josh Allen might throw for 500 yards. Now I love Akrum Wadley and think he could have a Heismen like season, but Iowas run offense is going to be far more predictable considering their QBs and WRs are young (besides Matt Vandeberg who is still battling back from injury) iowas front 7 and o line are very good but if Wyoming can stop the run and Josh Allen is as good as they say he is then watch out for the cowboys
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Big hawkeye fan here,
I do not understand why Wyoming is +13, this game should be a pick em. Iowa has one returning secondary member so Josh Allen might throw for 500 yards. Now I love Akrum Wadley and think he could have a Heismen like season, but Iowas run offense is going to be far more predictable considering their QBs and WRs are young (besides Matt Vandeberg who is still battling back from injury) iowas front 7 and o line are very good but if Wyoming can stop the run and Josh Allen is as good as they say he is then watch out for the cowboys
I agree, but isn't the line a bit fishy...This is a night game at NI. I agree on D, BC, has a big advantage. On O NI is integrated new skill position players, but BC is also doing the same at QB. If this game were on a neutral field or at BC, it would be -6 and -9 respectively, and that would make it a no brainer for BC...1st game, away, at night...brings me some pause. These two teams are made up of 2 and 3 star players. I analyzed BC and NI 2013-2017. BC has 64 3 star players, while NI has 29...Neither had any 4 or 5 star players. Is that a big of enough talent delta, to give in the points on the road? Let's work together to figure this out...Backing BC -2.5 is definitely in my top 6 in week 1, but not in my top 3 as of today. Cheers
BA - what is your perspective of the BC v. Northern Illinois matchup (based on the cases presented above). Its in my top 10 (of course backing BC with a special LHH "Beat the hell out of them" mantra ;) , though, considering the other options in week 1, do I want take a marginal power 5 time with a new QB on the road at night, against a marginal MAC team...Does the current -2.5 BC spread look suspicious to you, the master capper sleuth? Thank you in advance!
LonghornHoosier
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:
I agree, but isn't the line a bit fishy...This is a night game at NI. I agree on D, BC, has a big advantage. On O NI is integrated new skill position players, but BC is also doing the same at QB. If this game were on a neutral field or at BC, it would be -6 and -9 respectively, and that would make it a no brainer for BC...1st game, away, at night...brings me some pause. These two teams are made up of 2 and 3 star players. I analyzed BC and NI 2013-2017. BC has 64 3 star players, while NI has 29...Neither had any 4 or 5 star players. Is that a big of enough talent delta, to give in the points on the road? Let's work together to figure this out...Backing BC -2.5 is definitely in my top 6 in week 1, but not in my top 3 as of today. Cheers
BA - what is your perspective of the BC v. Northern Illinois matchup (based on the cases presented above). Its in my top 10 (of course backing BC with a special LHH "Beat the hell out of them" mantra ;) , though, considering the other options in week 1, do I want take a marginal power 5 time with a new QB on the road at night, against a marginal MAC team...Does the current -2.5 BC spread look suspicious to you, the master capper sleuth? Thank you in advance!
I agree, but isn't the line a bit fishy...This is a night game at NI. I agree on D, BC, has a big advantage. On O NI is integrated new skill position players, but BC is also doing the same at QB. If this game were on a neutral field or at BC, it would be -6 and -9 respectively, and that would make it a no brainer for BC...1st game, away, at night...brings me some pause. These two teams are made up of 2 and 3 star players. I analyzed BC and NI 2013-2017. BC has 64 3 star players, while NI has 29...Neither had any 4 or 5 star players. Is that a big of enough talent delta, to give in the points on the road? Let's work together to figure this out...Backing BC -2.5 is definitely in my top 6 in week 1, but not in my top 3 as of today. Cheers
I see what you're saying.... But what do you think the total will be on this game? I haven't seen one, so I'm taking a stab but I'm guessing low 50s, high 40s.... BC's lack of offensive production, combined with the road atmosphere, the "name" NIU and the idea that's it's going to be a fairly low scoring game is the reason this spread is so low imo. BC could easily struggle outta the gate for a half... Anyway, that's my take after thinking about it for all of 5 mintues, so idk how much stock I'd put into what I said. I'm sure BA or someone will come in and explain this with more knowledge and elegance....
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:
I agree, but isn't the line a bit fishy...This is a night game at NI. I agree on D, BC, has a big advantage. On O NI is integrated new skill position players, but BC is also doing the same at QB. If this game were on a neutral field or at BC, it would be -6 and -9 respectively, and that would make it a no brainer for BC...1st game, away, at night...brings me some pause. These two teams are made up of 2 and 3 star players. I analyzed BC and NI 2013-2017. BC has 64 3 star players, while NI has 29...Neither had any 4 or 5 star players. Is that a big of enough talent delta, to give in the points on the road? Let's work together to figure this out...Backing BC -2.5 is definitely in my top 6 in week 1, but not in my top 3 as of today. Cheers
I see what you're saying.... But what do you think the total will be on this game? I haven't seen one, so I'm taking a stab but I'm guessing low 50s, high 40s.... BC's lack of offensive production, combined with the road atmosphere, the "name" NIU and the idea that's it's going to be a fairly low scoring game is the reason this spread is so low imo. BC could easily struggle outta the gate for a half... Anyway, that's my take after thinking about it for all of 5 mintues, so idk how much stock I'd put into what I said. I'm sure BA or someone will come in and explain this with more knowledge and elegance....
BA - what is your perspective of the BC v. Northern Illinois matchup (based on the cases presented above). Its in my top 10 (of course backing BC with a special LHH "Beat the hell out of them" mantra ;) , though, considering the other options in week 1, do I want take a marginal power 5 time with a new QB on the road at night, against a marginal MAC team...Does the current -2.5 BC spread look suspicious to you, the master capper sleuth? Thank you in advance!
THEYREGONNAKILLEM!...........load up !..................
1) How has BC (under Addazio))...performed in this type of game?....> non-con favorite / needing a W for bowl?....not bad...lost to Col St at home (-6) in 2014....but strong otherwise
$$ he usually wins the ones he's supposed to
2) Will N Illinois have the FULL FOCUS of BC?
*YES....BC only won by 3 at home LY....8 days to prep for WF > then ND....then at Clemson.........so THEY NEED THIS ONE
3) How bout NI?....as a ROAD DOG.....tough as hell.....not so great historically in this role.....plus have a winnable game on deck
*tough in the MAC.....not so much in non-conf games = their FOCUS is on MAC play...........CLEARLY........>> they don't NEED this game to make a bowl.....or win the MAC....
$$ Addazio loses here?.....he might get his sorry azz fired > gotta go home and tell the wife ....moving again sorry!................going to E Michigan to be the new DC........
4) Then check match-up to confirm.....haven't checked......but guessing BC runs it right up their azz.....all day
*taking pressure off QB.....who can run too
5) Value?.....seems to be there at 2'.....................
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:
BA - what is your perspective of the BC v. Northern Illinois matchup (based on the cases presented above). Its in my top 10 (of course backing BC with a special LHH "Beat the hell out of them" mantra ;) , though, considering the other options in week 1, do I want take a marginal power 5 time with a new QB on the road at night, against a marginal MAC team...Does the current -2.5 BC spread look suspicious to you, the master capper sleuth? Thank you in advance!
THEYREGONNAKILLEM!...........load up !..................
1) How has BC (under Addazio))...performed in this type of game?....> non-con favorite / needing a W for bowl?....not bad...lost to Col St at home (-6) in 2014....but strong otherwise
$$ he usually wins the ones he's supposed to
2) Will N Illinois have the FULL FOCUS of BC?
*YES....BC only won by 3 at home LY....8 days to prep for WF > then ND....then at Clemson.........so THEY NEED THIS ONE
3) How bout NI?....as a ROAD DOG.....tough as hell.....not so great historically in this role.....plus have a winnable game on deck
*tough in the MAC.....not so much in non-conf games = their FOCUS is on MAC play...........CLEARLY........>> they don't NEED this game to make a bowl.....or win the MAC....
$$ Addazio loses here?.....he might get his sorry azz fired > gotta go home and tell the wife ....moving again sorry!................going to E Michigan to be the new DC........
4) Then check match-up to confirm.....haven't checked......but guessing BC runs it right up their azz.....all day
*taking pressure off QB.....who can run too
5) Value?.....seems to be there at 2'.....................
THEYREGONNAKILLEM!...........load up !..................
1) How has BC (under Addazio))...performed in this type of game?....> non-con favorite / needing a W for bowl?....not bad...lost to Col St at home (-6) in 2014....but strong otherwise
$$ he usually wins the ones he's supposed to
2) Will N Illinois have the FULL FOCUS of BC?
*YES....BC only won by 3 at home LY....8 days to prep for WF > then ND....then at Clemson.........so THEY NEED THIS ONE
3) How bout NI?....as a ROAD DOG.....tough as hell.....not so great historically in this role.....plus have a winnable game on deck
*tough in the MAC.....not so much in non-conf games = their FOCUS is on MAC play...........CLEARLY........>> they don't NEED this game to make a bowl.....or win the MAC....
$$ Addazio loses here?.....he might get his sorry azz fired > gotta go home and tell the wife ....moving again sorry!................going to E Michigan to be the new DC........
4) Then check match-up to confirm.....haven't checked......but guessing BC runs it right up their azz.....all day
*taking pressure off QB.....who can run too
5) Value?.....seems to be there at 2'.....................
BTW.....breaking the games down THIS way.....
*Axing yourself....what does this game REALLY mean to both teams?......getting INSIDE the head of the HC's.......their week of preparation.....what are the players thinking as they bust their azz to get ready?......their history in this same SPOT?
$$$$$ makes things MUCH easier.......because this type of thinking is poorly understood by most everybody.....can't be measured.....and is NOT reflected in the LINE
KEY?......most EVERYBODY......thinks that all 12 games are pretty much the same...."well hell....they'll be fired up!"......< STUPID
*the QUALITY of preparation varies drastically from week to week ......ask ANY coach
The impediment to action advances action - what stands in the way becomes the way.
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Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:
THEYREGONNAKILLEM!...........load up !..................
1) How has BC (under Addazio))...performed in this type of game?....> non-con favorite / needing a W for bowl?....not bad...lost to Col St at home (-6) in 2014....but strong otherwise
$$ he usually wins the ones he's supposed to
2) Will N Illinois have the FULL FOCUS of BC?
*YES....BC only won by 3 at home LY....8 days to prep for WF > then ND....then at Clemson.........so THEY NEED THIS ONE
3) How bout NI?....as a ROAD DOG.....tough as hell.....not so great historically in this role.....plus have a winnable game on deck
*tough in the MAC.....not so much in non-conf games = their FOCUS is on MAC play...........CLEARLY........>> they don't NEED this game to make a bowl.....or win the MAC....
$$ Addazio loses here?.....he might get his sorry azz fired > gotta go home and tell the wife ....moving again sorry!................going to E Michigan to be the new DC........
4) Then check match-up to confirm.....haven't checked......but guessing BC runs it right up their azz.....all day
*taking pressure off QB.....who can run too
5) Value?.....seems to be there at 2'.....................
BTW.....breaking the games down THIS way.....
*Axing yourself....what does this game REALLY mean to both teams?......getting INSIDE the head of the HC's.......their week of preparation.....what are the players thinking as they bust their azz to get ready?......their history in this same SPOT?
$$$$$ makes things MUCH easier.......because this type of thinking is poorly understood by most everybody.....can't be measured.....and is NOT reflected in the LINE
KEY?......most EVERYBODY......thinks that all 12 games are pretty much the same...."well hell....they'll be fired up!"......< STUPID
*the QUALITY of preparation varies drastically from week to week ......ask ANY coach
NCSU has absolutely no business as a fav. Here...the teams are evenly matched at best and I give the QB and offensive skill position edge to the gamecocks....this game is at bank america stadium 70 miles north of Columbia, even in the state of NC this could be a gamecock crowd.
Gamecocks win it outright.
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NCSU has absolutely no business as a fav. Here...the teams are evenly matched at best and I give the QB and offensive skill position edge to the gamecocks....this game is at bank america stadium 70 miles north of Columbia, even in the state of NC this could be a gamecock crowd.
Double, Lots of discussion about Colo St. on the forum. I like them this year but more inclined to go with your Colo. St. +9 pick in week 2.
Oreg. St. and U.Colo. maybe closer in talent than some think. Getting 8 or 9 on a neutral field against in-state rival or giving a FG. to a improving Oregon St. I'll go with Colo. St. week 2. Give me the pts. If they are holding anything back week 1 it'll be there against U. Colo.
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Double, Lots of discussion about Colo St. on the forum. I like them this year but more inclined to go with your Colo. St. +9 pick in week 2.
Oreg. St. and U.Colo. maybe closer in talent than some think. Getting 8 or 9 on a neutral field against in-state rival or giving a FG. to a improving Oregon St. I'll go with Colo. St. week 2. Give me the pts. If they are holding anything back week 1 it'll be there against U. Colo.
THEYREGONNAKILLEM!...........load up !..................
1) How has BC (under Addazio))...performed in this type of game?....> non-con favorite / needing a W for bowl?....not bad...lost to Col St at home (-6) in 2014....but strong otherwise
$$ he usually wins the ones he's supposed to
2) Will N Illinois have the FULL FOCUS of BC?
*YES....BC only won by 3 at home LY....8 days to prep for WF > then ND....then at Clemson.........so THEY NEED THIS ONE
3) How bout NI?....as a ROAD DOG.....tough as hell.....not so great historically in this role.....plus have a winnable game on deck
*tough in the MAC.....not so much in non-conf games = their FOCUS is on MAC play...........CLEARLY........>> they don't NEED this game to make a bowl.....or win the MAC....
$$ Addazio loses here?.....he might get his sorry azz fired > gotta go home and tell the wife ....moving again sorry!................going to E Michigan to be the new DC........
4) Then check match-up to confirm.....haven't checked......but guessing BC runs it right up their azz.....all day
*taking pressure off QB.....who can run too
5) Value?.....seems to be there at 2'.....................
Yeah, I think BC will be able to run the ball and contain the NI run game......I see them winning the battle in the trenches on both sides of the ball......Hard to pass up a line under 3 here even if they are a road FAV..
Good luck fellas
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Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin:
THEYREGONNAKILLEM!...........load up !..................
1) How has BC (under Addazio))...performed in this type of game?....> non-con favorite / needing a W for bowl?....not bad...lost to Col St at home (-6) in 2014....but strong otherwise
$$ he usually wins the ones he's supposed to
2) Will N Illinois have the FULL FOCUS of BC?
*YES....BC only won by 3 at home LY....8 days to prep for WF > then ND....then at Clemson.........so THEY NEED THIS ONE
3) How bout NI?....as a ROAD DOG.....tough as hell.....not so great historically in this role.....plus have a winnable game on deck
*tough in the MAC.....not so much in non-conf games = their FOCUS is on MAC play...........CLEARLY........>> they don't NEED this game to make a bowl.....or win the MAC....
$$ Addazio loses here?.....he might get his sorry azz fired > gotta go home and tell the wife ....moving again sorry!................going to E Michigan to be the new DC........
4) Then check match-up to confirm.....haven't checked......but guessing BC runs it right up their azz.....all day
*taking pressure off QB.....who can run too
5) Value?.....seems to be there at 2'.....................
Yeah, I think BC will be able to run the ball and contain the NI run game......I see them winning the battle in the trenches on both sides of the ball......Hard to pass up a line under 3 here even if they are a road FAV..
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.....going to E Michigan to be the new DC........
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