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whats up w/ the oregon line going down?

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Posted: Jan. 6, 2015 - 12:37 PM ET #26

FSU had 3 more turnovers than Oregon.  Even at 7 points each, that's only 21 points. 

Oregon won by 39 points. 

You shouldn't judge Oregon by their whole season.  They weren't so hot the first half.  Now they are healthy and hitting on all cylinders. 

Oregon wins big.

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FSU had 3 more turnovers than Oregon.  Even at 7 points each, that's only 21 points. 

Oregon won by 39 points. 

You shouldn't judge Oregon by their whole season.  They weren't so hot the first half.  Now they are healthy and hitting on all cylinders. 

Oregon wins big.

 
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Posted: Jan. 6, 2015 - 3:46 PM ET #27

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FSU had 3 more turnovers than Oregon.  Even at 7 points each, that's only 21 points. 

Oregon won by 39 points. 

You shouldn't judge Oregon by their whole season.  They weren't so hot the first half.  Now they are healthy and hitting on all cylinders. 

Oregon wins big.

DID you watch the game and see FSU QUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have no clue about football with your logic!!!!!!
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FSU had 3 more turnovers than Oregon.  Even at 7 points each, that's only 21 points. 

Oregon won by 39 points. 

You shouldn't judge Oregon by their whole season.  They weren't so hot the first half.  Now they are healthy and hitting on all cylinders. 

Oregon wins big.

DID you watch the game and see FSU QUIT!!!!!!!!!!!!!! You have no clue about football with your logic!!!!!!
 
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Posted: Jan. 6, 2015 - 4:36 PM ET #28

Quote Originally Posted by SiuLungBao:


now that your mentioned it...they were slow...

but i think oregon O LINE isnt all that fast or big either tho...

as they couldnt stop FSU until they fumbled...

BINGO!!!  You NAILED it SLB.  Didn't most of you even watch the game??  Every greenhorn looks at the final score, and assumes incorrectly what a team really was.  FSU self-destructed against Oregon and couldn't stop the down hill slide.  FSU was having success against Oregon until all those mistakes, fumbles and ints.   OSU most likely won't turnover the ball like that.  This is going to be close.  I think the OSU ground game, and the quick scoring of Oregon will wear down the Oregon D, and OSU will win, or make it very close.  Plus, Ohio State has the better and more experienced coach, hands down.  JMHO.  
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now that your mentioned it...they were slow...

but i think oregon O LINE isnt all that fast or big either tho...

as they couldnt stop FSU until they fumbled...

BINGO!!!  You NAILED it SLB.  Didn't most of you even watch the game??  Every greenhorn looks at the final score, and assumes incorrectly what a team really was.  FSU self-destructed against Oregon and couldn't stop the down hill slide.  FSU was having success against Oregon until all those mistakes, fumbles and ints.   OSU most likely won't turnover the ball like that.  This is going to be close.  I think the OSU ground game, and the quick scoring of Oregon will wear down the Oregon D, and OSU will win, or make it very close.  Plus, Ohio State has the better and more experienced coach, hands down.  JMHO.  
 
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Posted: Jan. 6, 2015 - 4:39 PM ET #29

Quote Originally Posted by USC1969:

FSU had 3 more turnovers than Oregon.  Even at 7 points each, that's only 21 points. 

Oregon won by 39 points. 

You shouldn't judge Oregon by their whole season.  They weren't so hot the first half.  Now they are healthy and hitting on all cylinders. 

Oregon wins big.


Great point USC.  Only thing about the TO's were how embarassing they were, esp the backward pass by Winston.   WOW.  FSU wasn't used to that, and when they got way behind late, they stopped playing.  They didn't know how to keep their chins up.  Ohio State does.  Again, jmho.  GL to you, and nice contribution.

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FSU had 3 more turnovers than Oregon.  Even at 7 points each, that's only 21 points. 

Oregon won by 39 points. 

You shouldn't judge Oregon by their whole season.  They weren't so hot the first half.  Now they are healthy and hitting on all cylinders. 

Oregon wins big.


Great point USC.  Only thing about the TO's were how embarassing they were, esp the backward pass by Winston.   WOW.  FSU wasn't used to that, and when they got way behind late, they stopped playing.  They didn't know how to keep their chins up.  Ohio State does.  Again, jmho.  GL to you, and nice contribution.

 
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middleman820-

You are one of the biggest Ohio St. homers on this site- did you watch the game? FSU didn't quit- their defense was gassed and worn out due to the pace that Oregon put them through- the same should happen to the Buckeyes- can the Buckeyes win? Of course they can as they should be able to run the ball and control some of the clock but all it will take is a couple of stops by the Ducks and they will just keep coming at them- Should be a good game but don't act like the Buckeyes are just going to steam roll the Ducks- Your homerism is getting in the way of seeing this game clearly
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You are one of the biggest Ohio St. homers on this site- did you watch the game? FSU didn't quit- their defense was gassed and worn out due to the pace that Oregon put them through- the same should happen to the Buckeyes- can the Buckeyes win? Of course they can as they should be able to run the ball and control some of the clock but all it will take is a couple of stops by the Ducks and they will just keep coming at them- Should be a good game but don't act like the Buckeyes are just going to steam roll the Ducks- Your homerism is getting in the way of seeing this game clearly
 
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[Quote: Originally Posted by USC1969]

People think OSU must be really good because they beat Alabama.  The trouble is, Alabama wasn't that good. 

It's an illusion. 

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People think OSU must be really good because they beat Alabama.  The trouble is, Alabama wasn't that good. 

It's an illusion. 

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Quote Originally Posted by Montasaurusrex:

OSU D is for real? I understand they shut out Wis but before that they gave up 27 to Indiana and 28 to Michigan. Both of those teams moved the ball at will. Neither of those offenses were exactly world beaters this yr. Not to mention 35 to Bama. If OSU can run the ball they have a chance buto I wouldn't count on them converting 3rd downs like they against Bama for the first half. Once Bama started bringing the heat they couldn't do anything except barely punt from their own endzone. Oregon in a blowout

Michigan had 372 total yards in the OSU game in a rivalry game, Indiana had 395 total yards of which 142 yards came on 2 long TD runs. Both games had late garbage time TD's scored. Alabama was held to 407 total yards, after averaging 484.5 during the year . That is hardly moving the ball at will

Oregon's allows 421 YARDS PER GAME. More than the previous 3 games by OSU!  They gave up 528 to FSU despite having 5 FSU drives cut short by turnover.

OSU has a distinct advantage in terms of defense, not even close considering Ifo's injury. I don't think either will shut the other down, but I think OSU has a better chance to slow Oregon down. I don't see how Oregon stops the OSU ground game without bringing an extra defender into the box. OSU has to many weapons to play with 8 in the box in the passing game. Leaning OSU and the defense is the reason. Probably the best defense Oregon has seen all year outside of Stanford, and definitely the fastest. They slow Oregon down just enough to win.

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OSU D is for real? I understand they shut out Wis but before that they gave up 27 to Indiana and 28 to Michigan. Both of those teams moved the ball at will. Neither of those offenses were exactly world beaters this yr. Not to mention 35 to Bama. If OSU can run the ball they have a chance buto I wouldn't count on them converting 3rd downs like they against Bama for the first half. Once Bama started bringing the heat they couldn't do anything except barely punt from their own endzone. Oregon in a blowout

Michigan had 372 total yards in the OSU game in a rivalry game, Indiana had 395 total yards of which 142 yards came on 2 long TD runs. Both games had late garbage time TD's scored. Alabama was held to 407 total yards, after averaging 484.5 during the year . That is hardly moving the ball at will

Oregon's allows 421 YARDS PER GAME. More than the previous 3 games by OSU!  They gave up 528 to FSU despite having 5 FSU drives cut short by turnover.

OSU has a distinct advantage in terms of defense, not even close considering Ifo's injury. I don't think either will shut the other down, but I think OSU has a better chance to slow Oregon down. I don't see how Oregon stops the OSU ground game without bringing an extra defender into the box. OSU has to many weapons to play with 8 in the box in the passing game. Leaning OSU and the defense is the reason. Probably the best defense Oregon has seen all year outside of Stanford, and definitely the fastest. They slow Oregon down just enough to win.

 
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FSU quit?
4th quarter scores were FSU 0, Ducks 14.
Oregon won by 39 points.
Maybe OSU will quit too when they realize they haven't got a chance.
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FSU quit?
4th quarter scores were FSU 0, Ducks 14.
Oregon won by 39 points.
Maybe OSU will quit too when they realize they haven't got a chance.
 
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Bama has a horrible qb guys.  Mariotta is in a different galaxy than what OSU had to defend.  

Will say it again- couldn't be a worse time for the Buckeyes to play the Ducks.  After a grueling, physical Bama team they have to play an uptempo offense they have not seen something remotely similar to all year.  And the OSU two deep isn't that good (its rather young actually).  They don't have Nick Fairley either (where Oregon lost with a much smaller team by 2 points with a far worse QB).  Also, the Oregon D didn't have to do much in the second half, so is totally fresh.


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Bama has a horrible qb guys.  Mariotta is in a different galaxy than what OSU had to defend.  

Will say it again- couldn't be a worse time for the Buckeyes to play the Ducks.  After a grueling, physical Bama team they have to play an uptempo offense they have not seen something remotely similar to all year.  And the OSU two deep isn't that good (its rather young actually).  They don't have Nick Fairley either (where Oregon lost with a much smaller team by 2 points with a far worse QB).  Also, the Oregon D didn't have to do much in the second half, so is totally fresh.


 
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Sharps moved Denver broncos from -7 to -10. How did that turn out
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Sharps moved Denver broncos from -7 to -10. How did that turn out

Also moved Seahawks -11 to -13.  How did that turn out?
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Also moved Seahawks -11 to -13.  How did that turn out?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Relax_Dude:

Every game has
competitiveness. FSU had great athletes that can make plays. But Oregon beat an unbeatable team over two year run. It was 18-13 and FSU had the ball and going in. Oregon did what they had to do.
I don't like PAC 10 schools going up against PAC 12 schools, and I think we'll see a comfy win by the Ducks in the 2nd H.


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Every game has
competitiveness. FSU had great athletes that can make plays. But Oregon beat an unbeatable team over two year run. It was 18-13 and FSU had the ball and going in. Oregon did what they had to do.
I don't like PAC 10 schools going up against PAC 12 schools, and I think we'll see a comfy win by the Ducks in the 2nd H.


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Quote Originally Posted by USC1969:

People think OSU must be
really good because they beat Alabama.  The trouble is, Alabama wasn't that good. 
It's an illusion.



I concur*handshake;)
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People think OSU must be
really good because they beat Alabama.  The trouble is, Alabama wasn't that good. 
It's an illusion.



I concur*handshake;)
 
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Quote Originally Posted by middleman820:

Oregon will not be able to
keep OSU under 300 yds rushing!!!!!!!!!
Bucks will control game and wear out the Oregon Defense!!!


Anyone talking about the Ducks Defense
& why not?
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Oregon will not be able to
keep OSU under 300 yds rushing!!!!!!!!!
Bucks will control game and wear out the Oregon Defense!!!


Anyone talking about the Ducks Defense
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Quote Originally Posted by blowoutgm:

middleman820-You are one of the biggest Ohio St. homers on this site- did you watch the game? FSU didn't quit- their defense was gassed and worn out due to the pace that Oregon put them through- the same should happen to the Buckeyes- can the Buckeyes win? Of course they can as they should be able to run the ball and control some of the clock but all it will take is a couple of stops by the Ducks and they will just keep coming at them- Should be a good game but don't act like the Buckeyes are just going to steam roll the Ducks- Your homerism is getting in the way of seeing this game clearly


Bingo!!
A one sided comment indeed to say the least

Publics perception is the Ducks are pertained to be a Finesse team only yea why isn't anyone talking about the "Ducks Defense" & what they possibly might do in this particular game?
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middleman820-You are one of the biggest Ohio St. homers on this site- did you watch the game? FSU didn't quit- their defense was gassed and worn out due to the pace that Oregon put them through- the same should happen to the Buckeyes- can the Buckeyes win? Of course they can as they should be able to run the ball and control some of the clock but all it will take is a couple of stops by the Ducks and they will just keep coming at them- Should be a good game but don't act like the Buckeyes are just going to steam roll the Ducks- Your homerism is getting in the way of seeing this game clearly


Bingo!!
A one sided comment indeed to say the least

Publics perception is the Ducks are pertained to be a Finesse team only yea why isn't anyone talking about the "Ducks Defense" & what they possibly might do in this particular game?
 
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Gotta say I think the biggest things in Oregon's favor is Mariota.... Hell of a QB and runs the offense like a coach.....

Oregons defense is ok but not world beaters.... 

Everyone forgets a touchdown was overturned as Winston was going into the endzone on 4th down.... FSU was PRESSING hard after that...... See 2 Delvin cook fumbles in open field as evidence... kid was just trying to do too much...

I also think the Oregon losses at WR hurt.....

 Ask any great QB and they need to have a comfort level/ Report with the guys they are throwing to... 

Oregon runs something closer to a Plug-N-Play systems than say Peyton Manning but I dont know how you lose two starting receivers in 10 days leading up to game and not have it affect you at all.

Also I think that... and this isn't new... but coaching..... 

Urban Meyer just looks so comfortable in every interview, every team practice... the guy acts like he EXPECTS to be in these situations.... 

Helfritch on the other had,,,, and please watch some of his interviews.... looks like its the biggest professional moment of his life.... because it IS!

Teams pick up on this and all description of Buckeyes are a "loose, confident team." from reports im seeing and interviews... See Cardale Jones mama joke in presser as an example.....

Win or lose... Meyer has won already, think of the recruits drooling to put on OSU colors after this season.

Ducks on the other hand have been deflecting questions all week about lost players and Can they win it all. 

This game has become a referendum on both Mariota himself and the Oregon Program and its national title aspirations....

Media saying Chip couldnt win it, Belotti Couldnt,,,, now its all up to Helfritch to prove that Oregon is not a "gimmick" and that they CAN win a Nat. Champ. 

Think he isn't aware of this perception? Think of the recruiting implications of a loss?

People are also looking at Mariota because he is auditioning for his job next year. They want to know, in the biggest moment of his life, how does he respond. 

No pressure Marcus....

Ohio St: 41 Oregon: 28
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Gotta say I think the biggest things in Oregon's favor is Mariota.... Hell of a QB and runs the offense like a coach.....

Oregons defense is ok but not world beaters.... 

Everyone forgets a touchdown was overturned as Winston was going into the endzone on 4th down.... FSU was PRESSING hard after that...... See 2 Delvin cook fumbles in open field as evidence... kid was just trying to do too much...

I also think the Oregon losses at WR hurt.....

 Ask any great QB and they need to have a comfort level/ Report with the guys they are throwing to... 

Oregon runs something closer to a Plug-N-Play systems than say Peyton Manning but I dont know how you lose two starting receivers in 10 days leading up to game and not have it affect you at all.

Also I think that... and this isn't new... but coaching..... 

Urban Meyer just looks so comfortable in every interview, every team practice... the guy acts like he EXPECTS to be in these situations.... 

Helfritch on the other had,,,, and please watch some of his interviews.... looks like its the biggest professional moment of his life.... because it IS!

Teams pick up on this and all description of Buckeyes are a "loose, confident team." from reports im seeing and interviews... See Cardale Jones mama joke in presser as an example.....

Win or lose... Meyer has won already, think of the recruits drooling to put on OSU colors after this season.

Ducks on the other hand have been deflecting questions all week about lost players and Can they win it all. 

This game has become a referendum on both Mariota himself and the Oregon Program and its national title aspirations....

Media saying Chip couldnt win it, Belotti Couldnt,,,, now its all up to Helfritch to prove that Oregon is not a "gimmick" and that they CAN win a Nat. Champ. 

Think he isn't aware of this perception? Think of the recruiting implications of a loss?

People are also looking at Mariota because he is auditioning for his job next year. They want to know, in the biggest moment of his life, how does he respond. 

No pressure Marcus....

Ohio St: 41 Oregon: 28
 
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Quote Originally Posted by kroch:

Bama has a horrible qb guys.  Mariotta is in a different galaxy than what OSU had to defend.  

Will say it again- couldn't be a worse time for the Buckeyes to play the Ducks.  After a grueling, physical Bama team they have to play an uptempo offense they have not seen something remotely similar to all year.  And the OSU two deep isn't that good (its rather young actually).  They don't have Nick Fairley either (where Oregon lost with a much smaller team by 2 points with a far worse QB).  Also, the Oregon D didn't have to do much in the second half, so is totally fresh.


Blake sims is horrible? This is a complete overreaction to one game, a game in which you probably lost money. Sims finished #7 in the country in pass efficiency.... but he is horrible ? I guess Jameis Winston, Bryce Petty, Dak Prescott, Brett Hundley and Connor Cook are even worse. They were all behind Sims in efficiency.

They haven't seen anything similar? They run basically the same offense, they have seen it all year long . In fact Meyer has said he could probably call Oregon's plays. LOL Do they run it faster than most? Yes, but that doesn't matter if they don't get first downs.

Oregon's average defense has not seen an offense nearly comparable to OSU either. OSU ranked 9th at 262.2 ypg in the country running the ball and 5.8 ypc. The closest opponent to the production of OSU is actually #20 Michigan State at 235.2 ypg 5.15 ypc. OSU did that while playing the #1Mich state, #3 PSU, #4 Alabama, #15 Michigan and #23 Wisconsin run defenses. They Will run the ball with relative ease vs Oregon's #49 rush defense in the country. Oregon only played 3 teams in the top 50 in the country in rushing too. #20 MSU, #32 UCLA, and #40 Washington and somehow still ended up #49 vs the run? FSU's 95th ranked rush offense which averaged 4.19 ypc put up 4.6 ypc vs Oregon's defense . LOL OSU will run the ball for 275+ without breaking a sweat.

You right, OSU doesn't have a Fairley, they have 2 In Bennett and Washington. Both of which will be early round picks( possibly 1st) to go with a lock first round DE in Bosa. OSU's defense is better on the D line than Auburn and MUCH better defensively overall.

If Oregon wins the game, it will be because they get turnovers. They won't be able to slow OSU down with that mediocre defense, they couldn't even slow FSU down. They put up 528 yards despite having FIVE possessions cut off by turnovers. The only thing that stopped FSU's #35 ranked offense was turnovers. Unless you are counting on multiple OSU fumbles, Oregon's defense is in for a long day, because OSU is going to pound the rock probably 50+ times. If Oregon has to bring a guy in the box to slow OSU down, game over.

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Bama has a horrible qb guys.  Mariotta is in a different galaxy than what OSU had to defend.  

Will say it again- couldn't be a worse time for the Buckeyes to play the Ducks.  After a grueling, physical Bama team they have to play an uptempo offense they have not seen something remotely similar to all year.  And the OSU two deep isn't that good (its rather young actually).  They don't have Nick Fairley either (where Oregon lost with a much smaller team by 2 points with a far worse QB).  Also, the Oregon D didn't have to do much in the second half, so is totally fresh.


Blake sims is horrible? This is a complete overreaction to one game, a game in which you probably lost money. Sims finished #7 in the country in pass efficiency.... but he is horrible ? I guess Jameis Winston, Bryce Petty, Dak Prescott, Brett Hundley and Connor Cook are even worse. They were all behind Sims in efficiency.

They haven't seen anything similar? They run basically the same offense, they have seen it all year long . In fact Meyer has said he could probably call Oregon's plays. LOL Do they run it faster than most? Yes, but that doesn't matter if they don't get first downs.

Oregon's average defense has not seen an offense nearly comparable to OSU either. OSU ranked 9th at 262.2 ypg in the country running the ball and 5.8 ypc. The closest opponent to the production of OSU is actually #20 Michigan State at 235.2 ypg 5.15 ypc. OSU did that while playing the #1Mich state, #3 PSU, #4 Alabama, #15 Michigan and #23 Wisconsin run defenses. They Will run the ball with relative ease vs Oregon's #49 rush defense in the country. Oregon only played 3 teams in the top 50 in the country in rushing too. #20 MSU, #32 UCLA, and #40 Washington and somehow still ended up #49 vs the run? FSU's 95th ranked rush offense which averaged 4.19 ypc put up 4.6 ypc vs Oregon's defense . LOL OSU will run the ball for 275+ without breaking a sweat.

You right, OSU doesn't have a Fairley, they have 2 In Bennett and Washington. Both of which will be early round picks( possibly 1st) to go with a lock first round DE in Bosa. OSU's defense is better on the D line than Auburn and MUCH better defensively overall.

If Oregon wins the game, it will be because they get turnovers. They won't be able to slow OSU down with that mediocre defense, they couldn't even slow FSU down. They put up 528 yards despite having FIVE possessions cut off by turnovers. The only thing that stopped FSU's #35 ranked offense was turnovers. Unless you are counting on multiple OSU fumbles, Oregon's defense is in for a long day, because OSU is going to pound the rock probably 50+ times. If Oregon has to bring a guy in the box to slow OSU down, game over.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by USC1969:

People think OSU must be really good because they beat Alabama.  The trouble is, Alabama wasn't that good. 

It's an illusion. 

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Give this man a cigar!!!! Smartest thing I read all year.

Nether was FSU, granted they were unbeaten for awhile, no real competitive competition either for FSU until the Duck's game.
More impressed with OSU beating Bama then OSU vs FSU.
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Quote Originally Posted by USC1969:

People think OSU must be really good because they beat Alabama.  The trouble is, Alabama wasn't that good. 

It's an illusion. 

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Give this man a cigar!!!! Smartest thing I read all year.

Nether was FSU, granted they were unbeaten for awhile, no real competitive competition either for FSU until the Duck's game.
More impressed with OSU beating Bama then OSU vs FSU.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Cornholio711:

Blake sims is horrible? This is a complete overreaction to one game, a game in which you probably lost money. Sims finished #7 in the country in pass efficiency.... but he is horrible ? 


Pass efficiency doesn't say anything about Sims (or any qb) in today's game.  He is an average qb that was bailed out consistently by Cooper and a running game.  His big plays of the year were two runs against MSU.  And I was large on tOSU against Bama for that reason.  Easy that Urban could scheme with a month to prepare to fluster him.

Bennett is grading out in the second round, so not quite Fairley size impact (who was predicted to go #1 by some after the national champ game).  Bosa is good, but young.  

tOSU gave up an avg 28 pts to Indiana, MSU, UM, and Minny.  Not exactly world beater offenses outside of MSU.  Not to mention 28 normal points against Alabama.  Doesn't ORE have to get into the 40s here?

Yes, tOSU offense was quite good but this is where pressure on Cardale Jones to keep up with Oregon in a hurry up game will come to roost.  I expect a few mistakes.

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Blake sims is horrible? This is a complete overreaction to one game, a game in which you probably lost money. Sims finished #7 in the country in pass efficiency.... but he is horrible ? 


Pass efficiency doesn't say anything about Sims (or any qb) in today's game.  He is an average qb that was bailed out consistently by Cooper and a running game.  His big plays of the year were two runs against MSU.  And I was large on tOSU against Bama for that reason.  Easy that Urban could scheme with a month to prepare to fluster him.

Bennett is grading out in the second round, so not quite Fairley size impact (who was predicted to go #1 by some after the national champ game).  Bosa is good, but young.  

tOSU gave up an avg 28 pts to Indiana, MSU, UM, and Minny.  Not exactly world beater offenses outside of MSU.  Not to mention 28 normal points against Alabama.  Doesn't ORE have to get into the 40s here?

Yes, tOSU offense was quite good but this is where pressure on Cardale Jones to keep up with Oregon in a hurry up game will come to roost.  I expect a few mistakes.

 
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Posted: Jan. 12, 2015 - 1:36 PM ET #48

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Bingo!!
A one sided comment indeed to say the least

Publics perception is the Ducks are pertained to be a Finesse team only yea why isn't anyone talking about the "Ducks Defense" & what they possibly might do in this particular game?

Why would the Duck's defense be good in this particular game? They haven't been good all year. They have been average. They also have not played a team with close to the offensive firepower OSU has. OSU has also played far superior teams defensively and still put up Offensive #'s similar to Oregon.

They have scored 2.2 ppg less than Oregon while while playing 5 top 25 scoring defenses. #6, #7, #14, #17 and #22 Mich state.

Oregon by contrast has only scored 2.2 ppg more than OSU by playing 4 TOP 50 scoring defenses. #2 Stanford and #22 Mich State, #42 Utah and #49 FSU.

Oregon's rush Defense is ranked #49 vs the run in the country while playing only 3 teams in the top 50 in rushing, the highest ranked being #20 MSU. OSU ranked 9th in the rush offense while playing 5 top 25 rush defenses including 3 of the top 5.

Oregon's defense ranks 108th vs the pass. They did play some good pass offenses, although it could be said, that the Pac was so bad defensively that their #'s are inflated. Oregon played #1 WSU, #6 Cal, #14 FSU, #21 Arizona 2X. The Pac had only 1 team in the top 25 in pass defense #8 Stanford. Oregon ranked #50 in pass efficiency defense, decent but not great. Now they are without their best player too. OSU was 51st in passing yards and 2nd in the country in pass efficiency. They also rank 18th in the country in yards per completion at 14.2 ypc. They are 25th in Completion %.When OSU throws the ball, they are  effective. They just don't do it as much as other teams because of their dominating run game. Again OSU posted those #'s vs better pass defenses than Oregon including #4 Wisconsin, # 8PSU, #19 Minnesota, and #20 Michigan in Pass yards allowed. And #2 PSU, # 14 VT, and #22 MSU in Pass efficiency defense.

Oregon was 27th in the country in scoring defense. A lot of that has to do with them being +20 in turnover margin, not because they stop anybody.

If Oregon is going to win the game, they need turnovers. If they can't stop OSU from running, which there is no evidence that they can statistically. They will need fumbles. The media hype is actually more slanted to how Oregon is NOT a finesse team anymore. I am not concerned if they are or not. The fact is, their defense has not been very good this year DESPITE being bigger and more physical. They haven't played a dynamic proven offense like OSU all year and have been mediocre statistically still. Where is the evidence that they can even slow them down? They didn't FSU and this team is far worse matchup with the run game.

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Quote Originally Posted by Macwestie1:



Bingo!!
A one sided comment indeed to say the least

Publics perception is the Ducks are pertained to be a Finesse team only yea why isn't anyone talking about the "Ducks Defense" & what they possibly might do in this particular game?

Why would the Duck's defense be good in this particular game? They haven't been good all year. They have been average. They also have not played a team with close to the offensive firepower OSU has. OSU has also played far superior teams defensively and still put up Offensive #'s similar to Oregon.

They have scored 2.2 ppg less than Oregon while while playing 5 top 25 scoring defenses. #6, #7, #14, #17 and #22 Mich state.

Oregon by contrast has only scored 2.2 ppg more than OSU by playing 4 TOP 50 scoring defenses. #2 Stanford and #22 Mich State, #42 Utah and #49 FSU.

Oregon's rush Defense is ranked #49 vs the run in the country while playing only 3 teams in the top 50 in rushing, the highest ranked being #20 MSU. OSU ranked 9th in the rush offense while playing 5 top 25 rush defenses including 3 of the top 5.

Oregon's defense ranks 108th vs the pass. They did play some good pass offenses, although it could be said, that the Pac was so bad defensively that their #'s are inflated. Oregon played #1 WSU, #6 Cal, #14 FSU, #21 Arizona 2X. The Pac had only 1 team in the top 25 in pass defense #8 Stanford. Oregon ranked #50 in pass efficiency defense, decent but not great. Now they are without their best player too. OSU was 51st in passing yards and 2nd in the country in pass efficiency. They also rank 18th in the country in yards per completion at 14.2 ypc. They are 25th in Completion %.When OSU throws the ball, they are  effective. They just don't do it as much as other teams because of their dominating run game. Again OSU posted those #'s vs better pass defenses than Oregon including #4 Wisconsin, # 8PSU, #19 Minnesota, and #20 Michigan in Pass yards allowed. And #2 PSU, # 14 VT, and #22 MSU in Pass efficiency defense.

Oregon was 27th in the country in scoring defense. A lot of that has to do with them being +20 in turnover margin, not because they stop anybody.

If Oregon is going to win the game, they need turnovers. If they can't stop OSU from running, which there is no evidence that they can statistically. They will need fumbles. The media hype is actually more slanted to how Oregon is NOT a finesse team anymore. I am not concerned if they are or not. The fact is, their defense has not been very good this year DESPITE being bigger and more physical. They haven't played a dynamic proven offense like OSU all year and have been mediocre statistically still. Where is the evidence that they can even slow them down? They didn't FSU and this team is far worse matchup with the run game.

 
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First, nice back and forth- kudos to an intelligent poster on Covers which is rare.

Ducks gave up less than 20 points in 6 of their last 8 games.  Vastly improved over the first half of the season.  They held Stanford and Utah, two running based offenses to far less than average.

And the reason they are good in the TO dept is because of the pressure they put on offenses.  Sure, FSU ran the ball well- but that's also because they have a Heisman trophy winning QB who could make plays (or couldn't- they kicked FGs in the first half and got stopped at 4th and goal that people have somehow forgotten).  Cardale Jones isn't Winston (or at least yet) so D game plan changes.  FSU defense was wearing down in the first half- and that was after a month off.  tOSU players have talked about how much that game with Bama had all the hard hits.  Well, just a bad time to play the no huddle Ducks after a week.  

I agree if Oregon loses the TO battle, they likely lose the game.  But I'll take that chance with Mariotta, not Jones.  I think Oregon's receiver sitch is the biggest issue for them right now- although it is the deepest position on the team.


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First, nice back and forth- kudos to an intelligent poster on Covers which is rare.

Ducks gave up less than 20 points in 6 of their last 8 games.  Vastly improved over the first half of the season.  They held Stanford and Utah, two running based offenses to far less than average.

And the reason they are good in the TO dept is because of the pressure they put on offenses.  Sure, FSU ran the ball well- but that's also because they have a Heisman trophy winning QB who could make plays (or couldn't- they kicked FGs in the first half and got stopped at 4th and goal that people have somehow forgotten).  Cardale Jones isn't Winston (or at least yet) so D game plan changes.  FSU defense was wearing down in the first half- and that was after a month off.  tOSU players have talked about how much that game with Bama had all the hard hits.  Well, just a bad time to play the no huddle Ducks after a week.  

I agree if Oregon loses the TO battle, they likely lose the game.  But I'll take that chance with Mariotta, not Jones.  I think Oregon's receiver sitch is the biggest issue for them right now- although it is the deepest position on the team.


 
 
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btw, some good advanced stats info here (especially on OSU rush D):

https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2015/1/12/7497173/oregon-ohio-state-college-football-playoff-2015-defensive-stats-preview

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btw, some good advanced stats info here (especially on OSU rush D):

https://www.landgrantholyland.com/2015/1/12/7497173/oregon-ohio-state-college-football-playoff-2015-defensive-stats-preview

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