See last year. The same shit happened. People, like yourself, wanted to use the looking ahead card when they looked pitiful against OHIO. How did that theory turn out?
that was last year, in your house, with sanchez and a better d, now, I DID NOT SAY USC WAS GONNA LOSE JUST NOT COVER! and they were looking ahead, so just like last year, i won money on both ohio and navy! like i said its all about who covers and who dosent!
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Quote Originally Posted by westcoastTrojan:
See last year. The same shit happened. People, like yourself, wanted to use the looking ahead card when they looked pitiful against OHIO. How did that theory turn out?
that was last year, in your house, with sanchez and a better d, now, I DID NOT SAY USC WAS GONNA LOSE JUST NOT COVER! and they were looking ahead, so just like last year, i won money on both ohio and navy! like i said its all about who covers and who dosent!
Ohio state has not lost by more than 10 points at home in the last 15 years. I think Illinois with Simeon Rice might have beat them good. I don't have time to do the research, but they have played a national champ and a few BCS teams and not lost by more than 10 points. I think it is even lower. So you think a team in their rebuilding year on defense is gonna waltz into the shoe in front of 105k people with a freshman QB and rout them. They might win, but the points look nice here.
OSU hasnt lost at home by that many because they havent played anyone halfway decent at home. The big 10 is complete trash and besides USC, their non conference games have been against patsies.......what if USC had came to the horseshoe last year??? It probably would have been the same 35-3 ass whoopin if not worse.
And USC in a rebuilding year is still better than 98% of the schools out there........
It comes down to team speed. Look what has happened every recent time a big 10 school has played a big game against the pac-10 or SEC........a complete mismatch based strictly on speed and they have usually ended in blowouts. It doesnt matter if they're playing this game in Jim Tressels backyard, USC simply has too much size, talent and speed.
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Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:
Ohio state has not lost by more than 10 points at home in the last 15 years. I think Illinois with Simeon Rice might have beat them good. I don't have time to do the research, but they have played a national champ and a few BCS teams and not lost by more than 10 points. I think it is even lower. So you think a team in their rebuilding year on defense is gonna waltz into the shoe in front of 105k people with a freshman QB and rout them. They might win, but the points look nice here.
OSU hasnt lost at home by that many because they havent played anyone halfway decent at home. The big 10 is complete trash and besides USC, their non conference games have been against patsies.......what if USC had came to the horseshoe last year??? It probably would have been the same 35-3 ass whoopin if not worse.
And USC in a rebuilding year is still better than 98% of the schools out there........
It comes down to team speed. Look what has happened every recent time a big 10 school has played a big game against the pac-10 or SEC........a complete mismatch based strictly on speed and they have usually ended in blowouts. It doesnt matter if they're playing this game in Jim Tressels backyard, USC simply has too much size, talent and speed.
I thought the line would open at -10, so I was surprised to see 6.5s and 7s. I like the Eyes!!
10??? Vegas would be begging for OSU money if that were the case. Also, that line would be suited for the Bush-Leinert era teams. BTW, the early line at some books was 4 pts.
If that were the case I would definitely take the # 8th ranked team in the country playing at home vs a young, inexperienced QB if that applied here. Too many things can go wrong with this scenario that 10 points would take care of for me to make that bet.
IOWs, you can't handicap turnovers and determination (adrenaline)...
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Quote Originally Posted by Charlie111:
I thought the line would open at -10, so I was surprised to see 6.5s and 7s. I like the Eyes!!
10??? Vegas would be begging for OSU money if that were the case. Also, that line would be suited for the Bush-Leinert era teams. BTW, the early line at some books was 4 pts.
If that were the case I would definitely take the # 8th ranked team in the country playing at home vs a young, inexperienced QB if that applied here. Too many things can go wrong with this scenario that 10 points would take care of for me to make that bet.
IOWs, you can't handicap turnovers and determination (adrenaline)...
OSU hasnt lost at home by that many because they havent played anyone halfway decent at home. The big 10 is complete trash and besides USC, their non conference games have been against patsies.......what if USC had came to the horseshoe last year??? It probably would have been the same 35-3 ass whoopin if not worse.
And USC in a rebuilding year is still better than 98% of the schools out there........
It comes down to team speed. Look what has happened every recent time a big 10 school has played a big game against the pac-10 or SEC........a complete mismatch based strictly on speed and they have usually ended in blowouts. It doesnt matter if they're playing this game in Jim Tressels backyard, USC simply has too much size, talent and speed.
They played the national champ Texas, who beat USC. They have Oklahoma and Miami on future schedules. Scheduling is not as easy as you think. We had Notre Dame on the schedule but then bitch slapped them and they wanted no part of us. I think it is tough for a SEC or PAC-10 school to schedule a team like OSU OOC. They go through a tough enough schedule. OSU is not the only team that has a weak OOC schedule. Look around..
Point 2 likely applies to USC, Florida, or LSU (the national champ). Those teams beat pretty much everyone they played, so how is that a fair comparison? USC dominated everyone except 1 team last year. They could have beat Florida if they played. So they kill Ohio State without Wells and the PAC-10 is superior to Big 10 overall. I'm not sure. Yes, USC is dominate, but you think your darling Cal would just walk into Penn State this year and win?? I think they would be underdogs. How about Oregon State playing at Iowa. Not sure that would be easy.
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Quote Originally Posted by sativasdaddy:
OSU hasnt lost at home by that many because they havent played anyone halfway decent at home. The big 10 is complete trash and besides USC, their non conference games have been against patsies.......what if USC had came to the horseshoe last year??? It probably would have been the same 35-3 ass whoopin if not worse.
And USC in a rebuilding year is still better than 98% of the schools out there........
It comes down to team speed. Look what has happened every recent time a big 10 school has played a big game against the pac-10 or SEC........a complete mismatch based strictly on speed and they have usually ended in blowouts. It doesnt matter if they're playing this game in Jim Tressels backyard, USC simply has too much size, talent and speed.
They played the national champ Texas, who beat USC. They have Oklahoma and Miami on future schedules. Scheduling is not as easy as you think. We had Notre Dame on the schedule but then bitch slapped them and they wanted no part of us. I think it is tough for a SEC or PAC-10 school to schedule a team like OSU OOC. They go through a tough enough schedule. OSU is not the only team that has a weak OOC schedule. Look around..
Point 2 likely applies to USC, Florida, or LSU (the national champ). Those teams beat pretty much everyone they played, so how is that a fair comparison? USC dominated everyone except 1 team last year. They could have beat Florida if they played. So they kill Ohio State without Wells and the PAC-10 is superior to Big 10 overall. I'm not sure. Yes, USC is dominate, but you think your darling Cal would just walk into Penn State this year and win?? I think they would be underdogs. How about Oregon State playing at Iowa. Not sure that would be easy.
They played the national champ Texas, who beat USC. They have Oklahoma and Miami on future schedules. Scheduling is not as easy as you think. We had Notre Dame on the schedule but then bitch slapped them and they wanted no part of us. I think it is tough for a SEC or PAC-10 school to schedule a team like OSU OOC. They go through a tough enough schedule. OSU is not the only team that has a weak OOC schedule. Look around..
Point 2 likely applies to USC, Florida, or LSU (the national champ). Those teams beat pretty much everyone they played, so how is that a fair comparison? USC dominated everyone except 1 team last year. They could have beat Florida if they played. So they kill Ohio State without Wells and the PAC-10 is superior to Big 10 overall. I'm not sure. Yes, USC is dominate, but you think your darling Cal would just walk into Penn State this year and win?? I think they would be underdogs. How about Oregon State playing at Iowa. Not sure that would be easy.
Those are great points. There are plenty of top notch schools around the country that schedule their non-conference games against the worst teams they can find. There are also the few schools who go out and look for a tough OOC oppenent to prove their metal(which is great for college football IMO)
And about your 2nd point, don't you think its a coincidence that those national champs you named are from either the pac-10 or SEC?? Speed matters, and the big 10 just doesnt have it like the SEC or pac-10 does.
And yes, I do believe if Cal was to go to happy valley this year they would win, again with the speed and size, PSU would not be able to control the line of scrimmage(similar to last Januarys Rose Bowl). We will be able to see Cal's speed and talent when they travel to Minnesota a week from Saturday, granted MN is not close to Penn St in talent but still a cross country OOC game for Cal.
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Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Insight:
They played the national champ Texas, who beat USC. They have Oklahoma and Miami on future schedules. Scheduling is not as easy as you think. We had Notre Dame on the schedule but then bitch slapped them and they wanted no part of us. I think it is tough for a SEC or PAC-10 school to schedule a team like OSU OOC. They go through a tough enough schedule. OSU is not the only team that has a weak OOC schedule. Look around..
Point 2 likely applies to USC, Florida, or LSU (the national champ). Those teams beat pretty much everyone they played, so how is that a fair comparison? USC dominated everyone except 1 team last year. They could have beat Florida if they played. So they kill Ohio State without Wells and the PAC-10 is superior to Big 10 overall. I'm not sure. Yes, USC is dominate, but you think your darling Cal would just walk into Penn State this year and win?? I think they would be underdogs. How about Oregon State playing at Iowa. Not sure that would be easy.
Those are great points. There are plenty of top notch schools around the country that schedule their non-conference games against the worst teams they can find. There are also the few schools who go out and look for a tough OOC oppenent to prove their metal(which is great for college football IMO)
And about your 2nd point, don't you think its a coincidence that those national champs you named are from either the pac-10 or SEC?? Speed matters, and the big 10 just doesnt have it like the SEC or pac-10 does.
And yes, I do believe if Cal was to go to happy valley this year they would win, again with the speed and size, PSU would not be able to control the line of scrimmage(similar to last Januarys Rose Bowl). We will be able to see Cal's speed and talent when they travel to Minnesota a week from Saturday, granted MN is not close to Penn St in talent but still a cross country OOC game for Cal.
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