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Navy at Wake Forest (12/20/2008)

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tickle bet, 4 team 6pt dog teaser for a dollar on the 1st day!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by tsw:

Everyone making such a big deal on the turnovers...Navy outgained Wake anyway despite running eight fewer plays.  Navy ran for nearly 300 yards at Wake , look for more of the same.
 
Navy 27, Wake 20

TURNOVERS ARE KEY IN EVERY GAME, EVERY SPORT FOR THAT FACT, AND 6, CHIT - WAKE COVERS

 
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Everyone has been noting that Wake had 6 turnovers in that game and that Wake was good with turnovers for the rest of the year. Well, they are both equally as good. Both are tied for 3rd in FBS in turnover ratio right with WF. So Navy continued to be a good turnover team for the rest of the season, it wasn't a fluke. Navy wins in close game.

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junior kevin harris has made the unlikey leap from 3- team fullback to first team tailback. an will start for wake forest at RFK in the eagle bank bowl vs navy..coach jim grobe said at the media conference.. back josh adams has been slowed by a sprained ankle and bruised shoulder, and fresman brandon pendergrass has been slowed by a sprained knee and ankle, GROBE said both should be availabe, they are semi-healthy,brandon actually sprained his ankle again in practice ,we are going to have to start charging these guys for tape, it;s amazing how much tape we are putting on these guys ankles..... 
 
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I like Wake Forest and the Under.

Probably just play Wake though.
 
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How does this game not go over?
 
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Navy with the points for me
 
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Just read up on the previous meeting.Wake couldn't have been any flatter for that sandwich game. Coming off a dominating game against FLA ST and with Clem up next, they turned it over 5 times and had they're winning streak snapped. If anyone can find out if Wake is coming to play, THEY are the GIFT of the BOWL SEASON! BOL to all
 
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do you not think navy d had something to do with some of those turnovers??
 
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Quote Originally Posted by CollegeSharp:

OKAY GUYS, IF HISTORY HOLDS TRUE, MANY UNDERDOGS WILL COME IN THE FIRST 2 WEEKS OF BOWL SEASON - AND I MADE A SMALL FORTUNE WITH TEASERS DURING THE BOWL GAMES THE LAST 2 YEARS...... I JUST MIXED AND MATCHED DIFFERENT GAMES IN TEASERS AND WON A BUTTLOAD OF MONEY!  SO IF THINGS HOLD TRUE - IT DIDN'T REALLY MATTER WHICH WAY YOU TEASED IT, AND IS A MATTER OF FACT, YOU COULD HAVE TEASED MANY OF THEM BOTH WAYS AND WON BOTH WAYS..... IT WAS JUST CRAZY LIKE THAT.  GLTA  AND I'LL HAVE MY PIX LATER IN THE WEEK!   I REALLY LIKE KENTUCKY AND COLORADO STATE..... AND I HAVE PUT THEM IN 4 TEASERS.   sharp  

Sharp - I seem to recall MANY of the early bowl games going OVER last year (although I'm not positive).  I need someone to clarify this.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by CollegeSharp:

Maybe someone can help me with this.... what is the record for 1st half unders in bowl games.  The reason I ask is, seems like alot of these games start off slow due to the time off, so is there a huge under 1st half trend?  I have to try to find out.... seems like there might be with the lay off?  Sharp 

 

Dont know about the record but funny you mentioned this. I played my biggest bet of the year on the under of the Navy-Utah game last year when the total was about 67 if I remember correctly.  They scored 17 total points the whole first half.  I ended up losing when 21 points were scored in the final 2 minutes

 
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Going with the Navy Blue and Gold +3
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Flying Dutchman/Damage Inc.----- it's the 1st half under?  That's the question... I just seem to remember alot of the games starting slow, but finished strong in the second half... so 1st half unders might be the way to go, and I had the under in that game also and, well, got burned just like you.  UNDERDOGS until January 1st if things hold true from the past.  Sharp 
 
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navy locked up it;s bowl spot on november 1, but the midshipmen did not let down in any way.. the D got better over the second half of the season , winning 4 out of the last 5 games, shuting out bowl bound northern ill. 16-0, and army 34-0, navy has gone nine quarters without giving up a touch-down..plus qb enugua will be close to 100 percent for this bowl game...
 
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Colonel, you are a good capper and I look at alot of your stuff but the reason Navy will not go 4-0 is I am willing to bet they were not aginst teams they faced earlier the same year. I live 20 min outside Winston Salem and U can be assured that Coach Grobe with this long to prepare for the option will the Deacons dialed in for revenge. Wake -3 and big$!
 
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gonna have to take NAVY yes it is hard to beat a team twice, but NAVY has been looking way better, plus more time off. Wake Forest is just falling apart and hurt.  WF should have been a way better team this year, but this game looks like it will be slow, plus anyone check the weather, i think rain is in favor of NAVY

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Quote Originally Posted by hlrr2005:

Colonel, you are a good capper and I look at alot of your stuff but the reason Navy will not go 4-0 is I am willing to bet they were not aginst teams they faced earlier the same year. I live 20 min outside Winston Salem and U can be assured that Coach Grobe with this long to prepare for the option will the Deacons dialed in for revenge. Wake -3 and big$!

Without a doubt hirr2005 if the Deacons are focused, they easily win this one..... It's just that we all know Navy will go all out to win this game, I don't know if the Deacons will be as pumped for this one as the Middies will be. I think Wake was looking for a better bowl bid than this one. They will win but I'll still take the points and hope the Deacons shuffle a lot of players in and out of this contest and eventually kicking a fieldgoal to win out in the end. Good Luck hirr Thankx.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Coloneljim:

Middies find a way to cover this one.
Wake Forest - 22                   Navy - 21
Midshipmen +3                 over 42.5
Last 3 times Navy were bowl dogs they covered all 3 times. Why should thie one be any different? 

Coloneljim.......are you gonna keep track of the regulars picks game by game again???  I know it is a bunch of work......but that was pretty cool last year.  Good luck to you my friend!!!  I'll be watching to see what you are thinkin.....

 
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I am certainly going to bang on Wake now.........I really feel very comfortable with this one.  I hit my play of the bowl season last year on Fla. Atlantic.......I'm close to calling this one the same.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by jackal7130:

How does this game not go over?

As Sharp and I said earlier, these games do tend to start off slow. Navy only attempts about 8 passes a game so I think the clock will be moving a lot in this one. And the Navy defense is a little underrated. They only let up about 21 points a game and cause a lot of turnovers. They've also had shutouts their last 2 games (and I know those games were against Army and No.Illinois but shutouts are tough to get no matter who you're playing). Wake's offense isn't that good, they average about 20 a game and their defense is solid, they only let up 18 points a game. Weather forecast calls for heavy rain on Friday and Sunday but only cloudy weather on Saturday. I wouldn't be surprised to see a rain shower pass through during the game. The game they played earlier this year had a total of 41 points. I think both teams will have a better understanding of what one another are trying to do now and will be able to slow each other down a little.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Irisheyez:

Coloneljim.......are you gonna keep track of the regulars picks game by game again???  I know it is a bunch of work......but that was pretty cool last year.  Good luck to you my friend!!!  I'll be watching to see what you are thinkin.....

I think I'm going to pass on it this year Irish, it sort of put the cappers on the spot. Some might shy away from posting if you start tracking their picks. It was pretty cool though, I have to agree.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by rick3117:

Wake rolls on this one, Hawkeyefan has it right, 6 turnovers made Navy look good in that last game, plenty of time for Wake to pick apart this one demensional offense. 

What does Wake turnovers have to do with the 300 yards rushing Navy put up on their defense? You got it all wrong...Wake isn't that good. Navy has actually gotten better since the last time these two teams met. The same can't be said for Wake.

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OK IRISH just the vets or higher.
WAKE Backers - dencol, will radar, irisheyez, hawkeye, rick3117, matting6, hirr2005, mleavers
NAVY Backers - w8lftr, coljim, snojocky, atlhtholder,tsw.
OVER----coloneljim, tsw
 
 
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Bvent
 
If team A turns the ball over 6 times, that leads to Team B having their offense on the field many more times.
 
More time on the field more production.
 
Not rocket sience.
 
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Team Stats

Navy Wake Forest
Score 24 17
First downs 14 16
3rd Down Efficiency 9-for-16
56% 		7-for-15
47%
4th Down Efficiency 0-for-0
0% 		2-for-2
100%
Total Yards 343 313
Rushing
Rushes-Net Yards 59-292 31-43
Average Per Rush 4.9 1.4
Passing
Comp-Att 3-4 26-40
Passing Yards 51 270
Average Per Pass Play 12.8 6.8
Penalties-Yards 6-43 5-45
Fumbles-Lost 2-2 3-2
Interceptions Thrown 0 4
Time of Possession 36:43 23:17
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