Covers is a notorious site for sucker posts and all this ND talk is no exception. Actually, it is a good contrarian indicator to see all of these uninformed squares cheering on ND with little to no rationale posted as to why ( " ND is gonna kill 'em " is the typical " call of the square money" ). Certainly, if the line moves to 6 ( a key number ), then USC becomes a very strong play. Look for the frosh QB to be much better than expected USC will tailor their offense to his talents. You don't think USC has been reading all this bs about ND being the better team, etc ? The little leprechaun gets his behind kicked this weekend.
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Covers is a notorious site for sucker posts and all this ND talk is no exception. Actually, it is a good contrarian indicator to see all of these uninformed squares cheering on ND with little to no rationale posted as to why ( " ND is gonna kill 'em " is the typical " call of the square money" ). Certainly, if the line moves to 6 ( a key number ), then USC becomes a very strong play. Look for the frosh QB to be much better than expected USC will tailor their offense to his talents. You don't think USC has been reading all this bs about ND being the better team, etc ? The little leprechaun gets his behind kicked this weekend.
I thought this was a capping forum. Some comments, like ND will "never win a national " reveal it to be a sounding board for homers. Whatever. This kind of boundless emotion by gamblers drives the lines in strange ways and builds casinos. I'm shopping for value on this Black Friday, and this week the value appears to be with Notre Dame and their better coach. Good luck.
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I thought this was a capping forum. Some comments, like ND will "never win a national " reveal it to be a sounding board for homers. Whatever. This kind of boundless emotion by gamblers drives the lines in strange ways and builds casinos. I'm shopping for value on this Black Friday, and this week the value appears to be with Notre Dame and their better coach. Good luck.
your bankroll is going to go down listening to vue cause his record blows. No offense vue but I wouldn't be posting my college picks if I had the record you have...
Actually "on college football" I wholeheartily agree, however I am trying very hard.
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Quote Originally Posted by MajorCheeze:
your bankroll is going to go down listening to vue cause his record blows. No offense vue but I wouldn't be posting my college picks if I had the record you have...
Actually "on college football" I wholeheartily agree, however I am trying very hard.
I thought this was a capping forum. Some comments, like ND will "never win a national " reveal it to be a sounding board for homers. Whatever. This kind of boundless emotion by gamblers drives the lines in strange ways and builds casinos. I'm shopping for value on this Black Friday, and this week the value appears to be with Notre Dame and their better coach. Good luck.
I stand by my original quote Norte Dame is always overrated and they want win a nationalFYI I hate both of these teams
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Quote Originally Posted by UberDog:
I thought this was a capping forum. Some comments, like ND will "never win a national " reveal it to be a sounding board for homers. Whatever. This kind of boundless emotion by gamblers drives the lines in strange ways and builds casinos. I'm shopping for value on this Black Friday, and this week the value appears to be with Notre Dame and their better coach. Good luck.
I stand by my original quote Norte Dame is always overrated and they want win a nationalFYI I hate both of these teams
Hope the game lives up to the hipe. Without Barkley, I'm not sure it does. Everyone is talking about Bama and ND kicking each otherscollective behind....................if Bama gets beat by Georgia in the SEC title game......................ND would get Georgia if they beat USC. Top 20 in defense and top 20 in offense and one of the hottest teams in the NCAA. Not sure if anyone wants any piece of that.
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Hope the game lives up to the hipe. Without Barkley, I'm not sure it does. Everyone is talking about Bama and ND kicking each otherscollective behind....................if Bama gets beat by Georgia in the SEC title game......................ND would get Georgia if they beat USC. Top 20 in defense and top 20 in offense and one of the hottest teams in the NCAA. Not sure if anyone wants any piece of that.
I can totally feel the love in this forum. If you agree with someone then you are correct but if they disagree with you then you are an idiot. Not a fan of either team but I took the points (USC +6.5 at the casino I bet at). Home underdogs in rivaly games tend to do well this late in the season. Just ask Washington how easy it was playing the TERRIBLE Wash State. Wouldn't it be funny if the only undefeated team is Ohio State? Only reason they aren't Bowl eligible is because of tattoos?? Seriously tattoos!!! I know someone will call me an idiot because they will say Ohio State is over rated & sucks but without the tats they would be currently ranked 1 or 2
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I can totally feel the love in this forum. If you agree with someone then you are correct but if they disagree with you then you are an idiot. Not a fan of either team but I took the points (USC +6.5 at the casino I bet at). Home underdogs in rivaly games tend to do well this late in the season. Just ask Washington how easy it was playing the TERRIBLE Wash State. Wouldn't it be funny if the only undefeated team is Ohio State? Only reason they aren't Bowl eligible is because of tattoos?? Seriously tattoos!!! I know someone will call me an idiot because they will say Ohio State is over rated & sucks but without the tats they would be currently ranked 1 or 2
Both ND & USC are traditionally overrated so you're both correct. Also, they are the two teams that clearly stand out in my mind as getting the most love from the refs over the years.
ND, undefeated so I guess rank them #1 but anyone who watches them knows there is no way they are as good as the top teams...but luck of Irish....hard to fight.
As far as Barkley, he was over-hyped & nobody believed my call of UCLA Hundley being better than him. I'll take it a step further & say back-up QB Max Wittek may be better than Barkley. I don't see it as much of a drop off at all. USC was favored by 3 before last weekend. Now +6? I'll take it. Tough spot for new QB first start vs great defense but I like the kid & won't surprise me if he leads them to victory.
This is a lot coming from me since I make a small fortune betting (picking my spots) against inflated USC lines almost every year.
Something of note....I don't see the usual delusional USC fans on here talking their regular nonsense. That tells me time to take USC.
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Both ND & USC are traditionally overrated so you're both correct. Also, they are the two teams that clearly stand out in my mind as getting the most love from the refs over the years.
ND, undefeated so I guess rank them #1 but anyone who watches them knows there is no way they are as good as the top teams...but luck of Irish....hard to fight.
As far as Barkley, he was over-hyped & nobody believed my call of UCLA Hundley being better than him. I'll take it a step further & say back-up QB Max Wittek may be better than Barkley. I don't see it as much of a drop off at all. USC was favored by 3 before last weekend. Now +6? I'll take it. Tough spot for new QB first start vs great defense but I like the kid & won't surprise me if he leads them to victory.
This is a lot coming from me since I make a small fortune betting (picking my spots) against inflated USC lines almost every year.
Something of note....I don't see the usual delusional USC fans on here talking their regular nonsense. That tells me time to take USC.
This is a game where I'm throwing record out of the window.
USC has nothing at all to lose. Their season is lost. Barkley is out. ND has everything to lose. If USC goes up by a score can't you see ND pressing and getting out of their game?
To me the moneyline worth a shot here, but I will be putting money on USC +7 to be safe.
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This is a game where I'm throwing record out of the window.
USC has nothing at all to lose. Their season is lost. Barkley is out. ND has everything to lose. If USC goes up by a score can't you see ND pressing and getting out of their game?
To me the moneyline worth a shot here, but I will be putting money on USC +7 to be safe.
Will all of the poster who said they are taking ND simply because Barkley is out please exit the threads unless you actually have a shred of information on his back up? This kid has swag guaranteeing a victory. He was recruited to be the future of USC after this year and he's going to get a chance to prove himself. I've watched film and have read scouting reports and I like the chances. Line down to 5 with a backup QB coming in? A lot of sharp money has done their homework. I'm going to grab the points before my book changes the line....USC +7
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Will all of the poster who said they are taking ND simply because Barkley is out please exit the threads unless you actually have a shred of information on his back up? This kid has swag guaranteeing a victory. He was recruited to be the future of USC after this year and he's going to get a chance to prove himself. I've watched film and have read scouting reports and I like the chances. Line down to 5 with a backup QB coming in? A lot of sharp money has done their homework. I'm going to grab the points before my book changes the line....USC +7
Will all of the poster who said they are taking ND simply because Barkley is out please exit the threads unless you actually have a shred of information on his back up? This kid has swag guaranteeing a victory. He was recruited to be the future of USC after this year and he's going to get a chance to prove himself. I've watched film and have read scouting reports and I like the chances. Line down to 5 with a backup QB coming in? A lot of sharp money has done their homework. I'm going to grab the points before my book changes the line....USC +7
Right there with ya! Well spoken...
GL
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Quote Originally Posted by DJNY:
Will all of the poster who said they are taking ND simply because Barkley is out please exit the threads unless you actually have a shred of information on his back up? This kid has swag guaranteeing a victory. He was recruited to be the future of USC after this year and he's going to get a chance to prove himself. I've watched film and have read scouting reports and I like the chances. Line down to 5 with a backup QB coming in? A lot of sharp money has done their homework. I'm going to grab the points before my book changes the line....USC +7
Hope the game lives up to the hipe. Without Barkley, I'm not sure it does. Everyone is talking about Bama and ND kicking each otherscollective behind....................if Bama gets beat by Georgia in the SEC title game......................ND would get Georgia if they beat USC. Top 20 in defense and top 20 in offense and one of the hottest teams in the NCAA. Not sure if anyone wants any piece of that.
A piece of Georgia? Let's see why they're so good....
Georgia 2012 Schedule:
Buffalo / 4-7 Record / Won 45-23
@Missouri / 5-6 Record / Won 41-20
Florida Atlantic U. / 3-8 Record / Won 56-20
Vanderbilt / 7-4 Record / Won 48-3
Tennessee / 4-7 Record (0-7 SEC) / Won 51-44
@South Carolina / 9-2 Record / Lost 35-7
@Kentucky / 2-9 Record (0-7 SEC) / Won 29-24
(N)Florida / 10-1 Record / Won 17-9
Ole Miss / 5-6 Record / Won 37-10
@Auburn / 3-8 Record (0-7 SEC) / Won 38-0
Georgia Southern (FCS Team) / 8-3 Record / Won 45-14
So let me get this straight: Georgia has a shot to play in a BCS game, possibly a national championship by playing a schedule with a combined record of 60-61? Wait, let me throw out the FCS team, 52-58? With three teams that are a combined 0-21 in the SEC?
I hope to god Georgia beats Alabama and gets in the National Championship game so I can bet the farm on an overrated SEC team like I did when Utah shoved it up Saban's behind in the Sugar Bowl. Unfortunately Mark Richt will still be the coach, so he won't be prepared to win a big game. Life is good for an average team in the SEC....
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Quote Originally Posted by SKIBALL:
Hope the game lives up to the hipe. Without Barkley, I'm not sure it does. Everyone is talking about Bama and ND kicking each otherscollective behind....................if Bama gets beat by Georgia in the SEC title game......................ND would get Georgia if they beat USC. Top 20 in defense and top 20 in offense and one of the hottest teams in the NCAA. Not sure if anyone wants any piece of that.
A piece of Georgia? Let's see why they're so good....
Georgia 2012 Schedule:
Buffalo / 4-7 Record / Won 45-23
@Missouri / 5-6 Record / Won 41-20
Florida Atlantic U. / 3-8 Record / Won 56-20
Vanderbilt / 7-4 Record / Won 48-3
Tennessee / 4-7 Record (0-7 SEC) / Won 51-44
@South Carolina / 9-2 Record / Lost 35-7
@Kentucky / 2-9 Record (0-7 SEC) / Won 29-24
(N)Florida / 10-1 Record / Won 17-9
Ole Miss / 5-6 Record / Won 37-10
@Auburn / 3-8 Record (0-7 SEC) / Won 38-0
Georgia Southern (FCS Team) / 8-3 Record / Won 45-14
So let me get this straight: Georgia has a shot to play in a BCS game, possibly a national championship by playing a schedule with a combined record of 60-61? Wait, let me throw out the FCS team, 52-58? With three teams that are a combined 0-21 in the SEC?
I hope to god Georgia beats Alabama and gets in the National Championship game so I can bet the farm on an overrated SEC team like I did when Utah shoved it up Saban's behind in the Sugar Bowl. Unfortunately Mark Richt will still be the coach, so he won't be prepared to win a big game. Life is good for an average team in the SEC....
I think USC has a better chance to win without Barkley, he is very over rated. That being said taking USC plus 5. I think ND unfortunately wins in OT by 3.
BOL!!!
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I think USC has a better chance to win without Barkley, he is very over rated. That being said taking USC plus 5. I think ND unfortunately wins in OT by 3.
I find it hilarious when people do this-------^ (simadman)
I don't know if he is actually putting money on it or not, but I think it's a horrible way to make money if a person says, "I'll take the +5 points, BUT I think the other team wins the game."
What that really translates out to is either, "I have no faith in my play" or "I am fully psychic and can narrow the score down to within 2 points like a carnie guessing weights at a carnival."
I just never understand when people call which spread will cover and then predict thescore to be a few points off like they Just Barely Won and sweated the whole game out.
If you are going to cap a game and put money on it, you shouldn't be putting money on a game you predict you will JUST BARELY WIN...that makes it a WEAK PLAY.
IMO If you take a short dog play around 3-5 points in football, you should have a STRONG OPINION that that "underdog" will WIN that game and you will have an "insurance policy" of 3-5 points to bail you out IF YOU ARE NOT PSYCHIC.
I'm just doing what they do on ESPN segments..."Just Saying"
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I find it hilarious when people do this-------^ (simadman)
I don't know if he is actually putting money on it or not, but I think it's a horrible way to make money if a person says, "I'll take the +5 points, BUT I think the other team wins the game."
What that really translates out to is either, "I have no faith in my play" or "I am fully psychic and can narrow the score down to within 2 points like a carnie guessing weights at a carnival."
I just never understand when people call which spread will cover and then predict thescore to be a few points off like they Just Barely Won and sweated the whole game out.
If you are going to cap a game and put money on it, you shouldn't be putting money on a game you predict you will JUST BARELY WIN...that makes it a WEAK PLAY.
IMO If you take a short dog play around 3-5 points in football, you should have a STRONG OPINION that that "underdog" will WIN that game and you will have an "insurance policy" of 3-5 points to bail you out IF YOU ARE NOT PSYCHIC.
I'm just doing what they do on ESPN segments..."Just Saying"
I find it hilarious when people do this-------^ (simadman)
I don't know if he is actually putting money on it or not, but I think it's a horrible way to make money if a person says, "I'll take the +5 points, BUT I think the other team wins the game."
What that really translates out to is either, "I have no faith in my play" or "I am fully psychic and can narrow the score down to within 2 points like a carnie guessing weights at a carnival."
I just never understand when people call which spread will cover and then predict thescore to be a few points off like they Just Barely Won and sweated the whole game out.
If you are going to cap a game and put money on it, you shouldn't be putting money on a game you predict you will JUST BARELY WIN...that makes it a WEAK PLAY.
IMO If you take a short dog play around 3-5 points in football, you should have a STRONG OPINION that that "underdog" will WIN that game and you will have an "insurance policy" of 3-5 points to bail you out IF YOU ARE NOT PSYCHIC.
I'm just doing what they do on ESPN segments..."Just Saying"
Texas D-I said I'm taking USC plus 5 points. My fear is ND will win the game but it will be by less than 5. I'm a big fan of USC and have watched almost every game the past 10 years. I' have also watched every ND game this past year and I hate to say this but ND has gotten so many bs breaks this year and they tend to play down to their competition. Look at this year other than last week they have struggled as favorites. I think the pressure is more on ND than USC.
Unfortunately, I think they will have some more Irish luck in this gameand win it.
I solidly back USC + 5, but I think ND gets lucky some how and wins a very close game. We'll see.
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Quote Originally Posted by TexasD:
I find it hilarious when people do this-------^ (simadman)
I don't know if he is actually putting money on it or not, but I think it's a horrible way to make money if a person says, "I'll take the +5 points, BUT I think the other team wins the game."
What that really translates out to is either, "I have no faith in my play" or "I am fully psychic and can narrow the score down to within 2 points like a carnie guessing weights at a carnival."
I just never understand when people call which spread will cover and then predict thescore to be a few points off like they Just Barely Won and sweated the whole game out.
If you are going to cap a game and put money on it, you shouldn't be putting money on a game you predict you will JUST BARELY WIN...that makes it a WEAK PLAY.
IMO If you take a short dog play around 3-5 points in football, you should have a STRONG OPINION that that "underdog" will WIN that game and you will have an "insurance policy" of 3-5 points to bail you out IF YOU ARE NOT PSYCHIC.
I'm just doing what they do on ESPN segments..."Just Saying"
Texas D-I said I'm taking USC plus 5 points. My fear is ND will win the game but it will be by less than 5. I'm a big fan of USC and have watched almost every game the past 10 years. I' have also watched every ND game this past year and I hate to say this but ND has gotten so many bs breaks this year and they tend to play down to their competition. Look at this year other than last week they have struggled as favorites. I think the pressure is more on ND than USC.
Unfortunately, I think they will have some more Irish luck in this gameand win it.
I solidly back USC + 5, but I think ND gets lucky some how and wins a very close game. We'll see.
Unfortunatly we have to go until January 7th hearing how great the Irish team is. This sorry behind team is actually going to play for a national championship....If they played in the sec they would probably have 2 or more losses.
USC - OVER Let's hope they can win this one su.
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Notre Dame - 30 USC - 27
Trojans +5 over 45.5
Unfortunatly we have to go until January 7th hearing how great the Irish team is. This sorry behind team is actually going to play for a national championship....If they played in the sec they would probably have 2 or more losses.
SC has give up a 156 points in it's last four. 39 a game. What is even more blaring to me is that they simply bad at tackling, If you watched the UCLA game you know what I'm talking about.
ND is better coached and better on defense. Although I'm hoping for an SC win here, I just don't see it.
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SC has give up a 156 points in it's last four. 39 a game. What is even more blaring to me is that they simply bad at tackling, If you watched the UCLA game you know what I'm talking about.
ND is better coached and better on defense. Although I'm hoping for an SC win here, I just don't see it.
ColonelJim is yet another shining example (and always has been) of what I'm talking about. It is NOT A STRONG PLAY if you ONLY PREDICT TO COVER BY 2 POINTS.
I'm not saying you will win or lose, but if you are gambling on a game that you think you cover by ONLY 2 points, THEN THERE ARE BETTER BETS ON THE BOARD according to THOSE predictions.
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ColonelJim is yet another shining example (and always has been) of what I'm talking about. It is NOT A STRONG PLAY if you ONLY PREDICT TO COVER BY 2 POINTS.
I'm not saying you will win or lose, but if you are gambling on a game that you think you cover by ONLY 2 points, THEN THERE ARE BETTER BETS ON THE BOARD according to THOSE predictions.
Hey combato ND is only letting up 10 pts a game and your main point is that a freshman QB is going to go up on em and ND wont be able to come back . USC DB,s have been suspect all year they made UCLA look like they had a prolific pass attack. you are a homer
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Hey combato ND is only letting up 10 pts a game and your main point is that a freshman QB is going to go up on em and ND wont be able to come back . USC DB,s have been suspect all year they made UCLA look like they had a prolific pass attack. you are a homer
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" reveal it to be a sounding board for homers. Whatever. This kind of boundless emotion by gamblers drives the lines in strange ways and builds casinos. I'm shopping for value on this Black Friday, and this week the value appears to be with Notre Dame and their better coach. Good luck.
over 45.5
This sorry behind team is actually going to play for a national championship....If they played in the sec they would probably have 2 or more losses. 
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