I love it how Lou pops in from time to time on a thread like this a chips in some help. Everybody seems to appreciate the help. But the real problem is that Lou is basically touting all of these shit books, taking their ad revenue, and promoting them on covers AND in the forums. Then when the nightmare ensues (it always does with shit books), then Lou steps in and tries to help and everybody thinks what great service from covers and Lou.
I'll give you all some service that Lou is unwilling to give you - go and open an account at a legit A+ book and NEVER worry about this shit again. Far better service than Lou is willing to give. But that advice does not come with a bunch of ad revenue.
I never ever feel sorry for anybody that gets screwed out of any money from a POS book. The world is full of shitty products and services, its your job to make sure you as a consumer are spending well.
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I love it how Lou pops in from time to time on a thread like this a chips in some help. Everybody seems to appreciate the help. But the real problem is that Lou is basically touting all of these shit books, taking their ad revenue, and promoting them on covers AND in the forums. Then when the nightmare ensues (it always does with shit books), then Lou steps in and tries to help and everybody thinks what great service from covers and Lou.
I'll give you all some service that Lou is unwilling to give you - go and open an account at a legit A+ book and NEVER worry about this shit again. Far better service than Lou is willing to give. But that advice does not come with a bunch of ad revenue.
I never ever feel sorry for anybody that gets screwed out of any money from a POS book. The world is full of shitty products and services, its your job to make sure you as a consumer are spending well.
Kingme---Be Careful...this is around the time Billy O comes in and tells you that you are clueless. Lou's style isn't to slam and there is nothing wrong with that. He does like to use the "have you recieved your money yet?" and "have you emailed Neal" probably more than I would like to see but so be it. His intent is right and he actually did try to help me once with sportsbook.com and we talked on his cell phone. He is handcuffed really with the books for the most part. What do you really expect him to do? He probably has the inside number at some places and can make a call for you but he can't muscle someone.
SBR does have the right approach for book grading and they are a good resource. Also I have found that googling a book is good also because you see comments from other places like yahoo, gambling 911 and kitchen sites that you can read.
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Kingme---Be Careful...this is around the time Billy O comes in and tells you that you are clueless. Lou's style isn't to slam and there is nothing wrong with that. He does like to use the "have you recieved your money yet?" and "have you emailed Neal" probably more than I would like to see but so be it. His intent is right and he actually did try to help me once with sportsbook.com and we talked on his cell phone. He is handcuffed really with the books for the most part. What do you really expect him to do? He probably has the inside number at some places and can make a call for you but he can't muscle someone.
SBR does have the right approach for book grading and they are a good resource. Also I have found that googling a book is good also because you see comments from other places like yahoo, gambling 911 and kitchen sites that you can read.
Kingme---Be Careful...this is around the time Billy O comes in and tells you that you are clueless.
LOL, so true. All these problems everyones had with these "top-notch" books are never the books fault. Its always just you being impatient by expecting a payout to be smooth, like a deposit!!!!!
Lou, at least, knows he's feeding a little BS and expecting people to put up with it so he's a lot more gracious and mature in defending his bogus guarantees. Billy, on the other hand, is your typical arrogant slimebag book peddler who answers every complain with an insult of you personaly, When you look up unprofessional douchebag in the dictionary, Billys picture is there. It will only be a matter of hours before Billy comes on and rips me and MRST and tells us what lowlife losers we are and how "all covers members should come join this book, its an awesome operation"!!!! All the while people will join the book then have withdrawal problems. Its just the same story over and over
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Quote Originally Posted by MRSARATOGA:
Kingme---Be Careful...this is around the time Billy O comes in and tells you that you are clueless.
LOL, so true. All these problems everyones had with these "top-notch" books are never the books fault. Its always just you being impatient by expecting a payout to be smooth, like a deposit!!!!!
Lou, at least, knows he's feeding a little BS and expecting people to put up with it so he's a lot more gracious and mature in defending his bogus guarantees. Billy, on the other hand, is your typical arrogant slimebag book peddler who answers every complain with an insult of you personaly, When you look up unprofessional douchebag in the dictionary, Billys picture is there. It will only be a matter of hours before Billy comes on and rips me and MRST and tells us what lowlife losers we are and how "all covers members should come join this book, its an awesome operation"!!!! All the while people will join the book then have withdrawal problems. Its just the same story over and over
It's no secret that any sportsbook would love for players to bet and loose while they are waiting for pay outs. That is why I always stress to everyone if you are waiting on a pay out make sure you wait for your money and dont give it back while you wait.
Lou.
Wow, thanks. I just feel so much better now.
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Quote Originally Posted by Lou:
Happy New Year ChanceP,
Where have you been?
It's no secret that any sportsbook would love for players to bet and loose while they are waiting for pay outs. That is why I always stress to everyone if you are waiting on a pay out make sure you wait for your money and dont give it back while you wait.
I don't know Lou personally, except through his work here. I have no reason to dis Lou at all. He has a job to do, and I will give him the benefit of doubt that he does the best job he can do.
What I'm pointing out is there is a conflict of interest. Lou works with the sportsbooks in terms of promotions on covers, etc. Many of these books (by their very nature) are horrible books with really lousy reputations. These are the type of businesses that REQUIRE constant promotion, and big sparkly bonuses to lure in new unsuspecting clients.
The true pillars of online sportsbooks do not require the promotion blitz or big bonuses. Hyundai needs to offer lifetime warrantees and deep discounts to make you buy their product - Lexus does not.
So I think Lou is a stand up guy for at least trying to help those that get caught in a bind with the lousy books he seems to be in bed with... the alternative would be unacceptable. I guess I'm just pointing out that the smarter course is to keep in mind you get what you pay for... sportsbooks included.
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I feel some have misunderstood my post.
I don't know Lou personally, except through his work here. I have no reason to dis Lou at all. He has a job to do, and I will give him the benefit of doubt that he does the best job he can do.
What I'm pointing out is there is a conflict of interest. Lou works with the sportsbooks in terms of promotions on covers, etc. Many of these books (by their very nature) are horrible books with really lousy reputations. These are the type of businesses that REQUIRE constant promotion, and big sparkly bonuses to lure in new unsuspecting clients.
The true pillars of online sportsbooks do not require the promotion blitz or big bonuses. Hyundai needs to offer lifetime warrantees and deep discounts to make you buy their product - Lexus does not.
So I think Lou is a stand up guy for at least trying to help those that get caught in a bind with the lousy books he seems to be in bed with... the alternative would be unacceptable. I guess I'm just pointing out that the smarter course is to keep in mind you get what you pay for... sportsbooks included.
I don't know Lou personally, except through his work here. I have no reason to dis Lou at all. He has a job to do, and I will give him the benefit of doubt that he does the best job he can do.
What I'm pointing out is there is a conflict of interest. Lou works with the sportsbooks in terms of promotions on covers, etc. Many of these books (by their very nature) are horrible books with really lousy reputations. These are the type of businesses that REQUIRE constant promotion, and big sparkly bonuses to lure in new unsuspecting clients.
The true pillars of online sportsbooks do not require the promotion blitz or big bonuses. Hyundai needs to offer lifetime warrantees and deep discounts to make you buy their product - Lexus does not.
So I think Lou is a stand up guy for at least trying to help those that get caught in a bind with the lousy books he seems to be in bed with... the alternative would be unacceptable. I guess I'm just pointing out that the smarter course is to keep in mind you get what you pay for... sportsbooks included.
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Quote Originally Posted by kingme:
I feel some have misunderstood my post.
I don't know Lou personally, except through his work here. I have no reason to dis Lou at all. He has a job to do, and I will give him the benefit of doubt that he does the best job he can do.
What I'm pointing out is there is a conflict of interest. Lou works with the sportsbooks in terms of promotions on covers, etc. Many of these books (by their very nature) are horrible books with really lousy reputations. These are the type of businesses that REQUIRE constant promotion, and big sparkly bonuses to lure in new unsuspecting clients.
The true pillars of online sportsbooks do not require the promotion blitz or big bonuses. Hyundai needs to offer lifetime warrantees and deep discounts to make you buy their product - Lexus does not.
So I think Lou is a stand up guy for at least trying to help those that get caught in a bind with the lousy books he seems to be in bed with... the alternative would be unacceptable. I guess I'm just pointing out that the smarter course is to keep in mind you get what you pay for... sportsbooks included.
The truth of the matter is since they closed down Neteller and pinnacle it has been all down hill. I got stuck playing at a shit bookmaker (hollywood) I won, now I can't get paid. I am just going to give up betting sports. Hard to deposit, even harder to get paid.
Watching the games are not that great anyways. All commercials it is like watching 3 1/2 hours of commercial, with a few short interruptions for the game.
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The truth of the matter is since they closed down Neteller and pinnacle it has been all down hill. I got stuck playing at a shit bookmaker (hollywood) I won, now I can't get paid. I am just going to give up betting sports. Hard to deposit, even harder to get paid.
Watching the games are not that great anyways. All commercials it is like watching 3 1/2 hours of commercial, with a few short interruptions for the game.
The truth of the matter is since they closed down Neteller and pinnacle it has been all down hill. I got stuck playing at a shit bookmaker (hollywood) I won, now I can't get paid. I am just going to give up betting sports. Hard to deposit, even harder to get paid.
Watching the games are not that great anyways. All commercials it is like watching 3 1/2 hours of commercial, with a few short interruptions for the game.
Interesting you bring that up. Of course I like many used to like to bet games I'd be watching. Then it grows more and more. As of now I don't have cable or satellite, just off air broadcast. I almost never watch any games I bet, except for NFL. I actually find it more enjoyable - and more importantly its more profitable.
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Quote Originally Posted by golfkat:
The truth of the matter is since they closed down Neteller and pinnacle it has been all down hill. I got stuck playing at a shit bookmaker (hollywood) I won, now I can't get paid. I am just going to give up betting sports. Hard to deposit, even harder to get paid.
Watching the games are not that great anyways. All commercials it is like watching 3 1/2 hours of commercial, with a few short interruptions for the game.
Interesting you bring that up. Of course I like many used to like to bet games I'd be watching. Then it grows more and more. As of now I don't have cable or satellite, just off air broadcast. I almost never watch any games I bet, except for NFL. I actually find it more enjoyable - and more importantly its more profitable.
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