5dimes Calls Covers a "rock of a forum"

Quote Originally Posted by nick1:

Tony is just sick of hearing from all you lames, WWE are you fucking 12?   Tony is a bookie not your pal, he is not being nice to you idiots cuz your little bitches that will bet on WWE and he has no respect for you.  5dimes is TITS, and im sick of you people talking shit!

Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:

Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:




You basically called Tony a cheater and a liar.  Now, you are saying you treated him with respect? 

Quote Originally Posted by walktheline:



1. That's the business he is in. If you don't want to get dirty, don't play in the mud. Also, I'm not a scamming asshole. I'm a long time account holder.

2. Just because it was a wrestling match doesn't automatically mean that the outcome was EVER disputable. The results are clearly posted and 100/100 people that watched the match would tell you that The Miz won the match. Attempting to create a gray area just because it was an exotic wager is ridiculous.

3. They didn't grade the wager until almost 20-30 minutes after the conclusion of the event. That's been verified by several people that wagered on the event.

4. Exactly. Once again, just because it's wrestling doesn't mean it was a difficult wager to grade. Bodog and the other books got it correct, why didn't 5dimes?

5. That's the point. "I don't give a fuck what the official results posted by the WWE are." Read: "I'll grade that however the hell I want" which is right in line with "some people happy, some not." Me and Kapono = not happy. Tony = delighted.

Remember the Music City Bowl this year?

Controversy surrounded the final seconds of regulation. With North Carolina driving into Tennessee territory to try a game-tying field goal, the clock appeared to expire as the Tar Heels were getting their kicking unit onto the field, setting off a UT victory celebration. After announcing the game was over, the officiating crew decided to review the play. After further review, it was decided the ball was snapped before time expired with North Carolina having too many men on the field. After being assessed a five-yard penalty, Casey Barth kicked a 39-yard field goal to tie the game at 20-20 and send it into overtime.

Quote Originally Posted by Syddigs:

He does make a good point. How the fuck anyone can bet blindly on an event where the result is known beforehand is ridiculous. 

Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

Reread what you just typed. If the result is known, why wouldnt you bet if you have insight?

Quote Originally Posted by Syddigs:

Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

Jesus. Yes, I know this. If the matches are scripted and the winner is known prior to the event and you know who the winner most likely is....why wouldnt you bet?

Someone makes a lot of money somewhere because these things are won/lost before it starts, so people literally do have a "LOCK"

Make sense?

Quote Originally Posted by Syddigs:

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Quote Originally Posted by Madden:

I agree with both sides here..

 

First off Tony was a dickhead to you. I'll stop wagering with 5dimes.. not impressed with his handling of the situation.

 

But... you can't really complain when your betting on something that has already been decided before hand. Wrestling is a sopa opera for men (boys)....

Stick to the real sports that don't have a script and have althetes instead of juiced up actors.

 

Quote Originally Posted by Ace77:

It would have been funny if Tony said Covers has AIDS

Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

First of all, Tony is somewhat famous (or infamous) for taking this tone.  He does it consistently, and is well documented around gambling forums - it is no secret - and is well known.

That being said....  A couple of thoughts....

1.  Tony deals with lying scamming bullshit artists 90% of his day.  So while I am not saying his tone is acceptable in all cases, it is hard to expect the same of him as customer service from a steakhouse.

2.  The nature of a wager on wrestling is ripe for interpretation, and controversy.  As Tony says, it isnt hockey or football where you have established rules, it is kind of make it up as you go along.  So results can and will be up for interpretation at times.

3.  Tony and 5dimes are interested in grading wagers quickly, and it is very hard to take back a wager once it is graded.  It is in their best interest to stick with a grading at all costs.

4.  If you are going to take wagers on wrestling, than you should understand that it is not hockey or football and take appropriate actions to avoid these disputes, or dont take the wagers in the first place.

5.  It is POSSIBLE, that when you have rules that are up for interpretation, and one side has all the power - that that side will abuse their power in their favor.  Buyer beware.

It sounds to me like Tony stated that the winner would be the announced winner, and it sounds to me like the announced winner was the miz (whoever the fuck that is).  IF that is the case, it seems pretty simple to me - but something tells me that is not exactly the case.

Should Tony be more aware of the customer and what that means?  Yes.  But the customer should also be aware of the industry he is participating in - it is full of scammers trying to pull off everything in the book - and Tony heads it off with a gangster attitude.  But his attitude isnt what is in play here IMO - it is the logical flow of the events.

Quote Originally Posted by sleepingmidget:



Scotty from Betjamaica deals with that same 90% scumbag ratio-----he would have made this right with the customer.   Tony is an asshole and I won't ever play at that site again....just on the premise of how he handled this situation.  This wasn't a black/white situation.  Fuck him

If you guys play anywhere else other than greek and betjamaica, you're crazy.

Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:





I am going to pay -110 juice instead of -105 because 2 guys didn't like the way their wrestling wager was graded?