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    an open letter to Colin Kapernick ...

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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 8:33 AM ET #1

    My own sentiments perfectly expressed ...

    https://nypost.com/2016/09/01/why-colin-kaepernick-is-wrong-its-not-a-black-and-white-issue/

    Dear Colin Kaepernick,

    For what it’s worth, I agree with you. I’m also convinced blacks are America’s most oppressed race. And I’m pleased you’re the latest pro athlete to exploit his or her status to take a stand, yours by sitting during the national anthem.

    But we disagree on who the oppressors are. You believe it’s white America, the America that helped do the once imponderable: elect a black President, and not once, but twice.

    I believe that the greatest oppressors of black Americans are black Americans. And they’re encouraged to continue by a say-what-you-want-to-hear leadership and messengers, from the President to a frightened media, politicians of every office, and activists, both black and white, empowered by their steady unwillingness to tell clear, present and sustaining truths in service of genuine for-the-better change.

    Consider that when a murder or murders of black men, women and children occur in a black neighborhood, its residents are conditioned to be uncooperative with cops and detectives — “snitches get stitches” — in pursuit of the murderer or murderers lest they and their families suffer retaliatory harm, including murder.

    Now that, Colin, that’s oppression. It’s a gangs-as-Gestapo mentality and reality that exists — and rules — within black communities throughout this country.

    Oppression? Colin, you’re one lucky young man to have escaped another epidemic of black-on-black oppression. You were adopted by a man and a woman and raised in a presumably loving, nurturing household. You were raised by two on-the-job parents. 

    You beat another common, almost standard reality: black self-oppression.

    You can’t abide by a national anthem that makes you think about the oppression of minorities? Try thinking about the 380,000 Northern soldiers who died in the Civil War primarily fighting to end the enslavement of black men, women and children more than 150 years ago.

    Why, Colin, is American black culture still synonymous — from the abuse of women, to violent crime, to absentee parents, to gangs substituting for families, to “Black Power” politicians who steal from the black poor and pocket it (and often are then reelected) — with sustaining self-oppression?

    Colin, you cited the Black Lives Matter movement as one you support. But logical people of all races wonder why such a noble-titled movement assiduously avoids addressing, let alone protesting, the avalanche of daily and nightly murders of blacks by blacks in virtually every city in this country.

    How is it, Colin, that it doesn’t matter to Black Lives Matter that the blood of black men, women and children daily fills the streets of Newark, Chicago, Detroit, Compton, East St. Louis, Baltimore, Birmingham and Miami? Why is Black Lives Matter’s outrage, copied from the plan of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and, so sadly, President Obama, so hideously selective?

    Obama says he has suffered the racism of whites locking their cars when he came into view. But don’t most people lock their cars, regardless? Does Obama think cars parked in black neighborhoods sit unlocked?

    Colin, I’m a liberal-in-exile, a disenfranchised Democrat who now often chooses practicality over ideology. Which flight would the ACLU lawyer who sues to prevent profiling choose for his or her family to board? The one that promises no profiling for terrorists or the one that guarantees it?

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    My own sentiments perfectly expressed ...

    https://nypost.com/2016/09/01/why-colin-kaepernick-is-wrong-its-not-a-black-and-white-issue/

    Dear Colin Kaepernick,

    For what it’s worth, I agree with you. I’m also convinced blacks are America’s most oppressed race. And I’m pleased you’re the latest pro athlete to exploit his or her status to take a stand, yours by sitting during the national anthem.

    But we disagree on who the oppressors are. You believe it’s white America, the America that helped do the once imponderable: elect a black President, and not once, but twice.

    I believe that the greatest oppressors of black Americans are black Americans. And they’re encouraged to continue by a say-what-you-want-to-hear leadership and messengers, from the President to a frightened media, politicians of every office, and activists, both black and white, empowered by their steady unwillingness to tell clear, present and sustaining truths in service of genuine for-the-better change.

    Consider that when a murder or murders of black men, women and children occur in a black neighborhood, its residents are conditioned to be uncooperative with cops and detectives — “snitches get stitches” — in pursuit of the murderer or murderers lest they and their families suffer retaliatory harm, including murder.

    Now that, Colin, that’s oppression. It’s a gangs-as-Gestapo mentality and reality that exists — and rules — within black communities throughout this country.

    Oppression? Colin, you’re one lucky young man to have escaped another epidemic of black-on-black oppression. You were adopted by a man and a woman and raised in a presumably loving, nurturing household. You were raised by two on-the-job parents. 

    You beat another common, almost standard reality: black self-oppression.

    You can’t abide by a national anthem that makes you think about the oppression of minorities? Try thinking about the 380,000 Northern soldiers who died in the Civil War primarily fighting to end the enslavement of black men, women and children more than 150 years ago.

    Why, Colin, is American black culture still synonymous — from the abuse of women, to violent crime, to absentee parents, to gangs substituting for families, to “Black Power” politicians who steal from the black poor and pocket it (and often are then reelected) — with sustaining self-oppression?

    Colin, you cited the Black Lives Matter movement as one you support. But logical people of all races wonder why such a noble-titled movement assiduously avoids addressing, let alone protesting, the avalanche of daily and nightly murders of blacks by blacks in virtually every city in this country.

    How is it, Colin, that it doesn’t matter to Black Lives Matter that the blood of black men, women and children daily fills the streets of Newark, Chicago, Detroit, Compton, East St. Louis, Baltimore, Birmingham and Miami? Why is Black Lives Matter’s outrage, copied from the plan of Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and, so sadly, President Obama, so hideously selective?

    Obama says he has suffered the racism of whites locking their cars when he came into view. But don’t most people lock their cars, regardless? Does Obama think cars parked in black neighborhoods sit unlocked?

    Colin, I’m a liberal-in-exile, a disenfranchised Democrat who now often chooses practicality over ideology. Which flight would the ACLU lawyer who sues to prevent profiling choose for his or her family to board? The one that promises no profiling for terrorists or the one that guarantees it?

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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 8:33 AM ET #2

    During the Trayvon Martin killing calamity in Florida, NBA players wore hoodies to symbolize the stereotyping that inspired Martin’s assailant, George Zimmerman.

    Yet in the months before and after that NBA protest, crimes commonly were committed — and still are — by those who tried to obscure their identities beneath hoodies.

    As those NBA protests occurred, an episode of “Bait Car,” which tracks cops as they pursue car thieves, appeared. This particular segment followed Officer Price of the Atlanta PD, who rode up at a red light alongside two young black men. 

    “I see two males riding with hoodies on their head, and it’s nice and warm,” said Price. “I’m suspicious.”

    When he tried to pull over the car, a chase was on.

    “I called it,” said Price, as he hit the gas. The perps, ages 16 and 17, lost control of the stolen car, slamming into a house.
    For what it’s worth, Colin, Officer Price is black. And, for what it’s worth, Colin, black police officers are no more eager to go home dead than are white ones.

    For what it’s worth, Colin, we agree: The oppression of black Americans remains staggering. But those slave ships haven’t arrived here in over 150 years. The oppression of American blacks is primarily perpetrated by American blacks.

    And I further agree, Colin, the oppression of American blacks must stop.

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    During the Trayvon Martin killing calamity in Florida, NBA players wore hoodies to symbolize the stereotyping that inspired Martin’s assailant, George Zimmerman.

    Yet in the months before and after that NBA protest, crimes commonly were committed — and still are — by those who tried to obscure their identities beneath hoodies.

    As those NBA protests occurred, an episode of “Bait Car,” which tracks cops as they pursue car thieves, appeared. This particular segment followed Officer Price of the Atlanta PD, who rode up at a red light alongside two young black men. 

    “I see two males riding with hoodies on their head, and it’s nice and warm,” said Price. “I’m suspicious.”

    When he tried to pull over the car, a chase was on.

    “I called it,” said Price, as he hit the gas. The perps, ages 16 and 17, lost control of the stolen car, slamming into a house.
    For what it’s worth, Colin, Officer Price is black. And, for what it’s worth, Colin, black police officers are no more eager to go home dead than are white ones.

    For what it’s worth, Colin, we agree: The oppression of black Americans remains staggering. But those slave ships haven’t arrived here in over 150 years. The oppression of American blacks is primarily perpetrated by American blacks.

    And I further agree, Colin, the oppression of American blacks must stop.

     
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    Oh, you gonna get it from Scal for stereotyping when he gets set free.


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    Oh, you gonna get it from Scal for stereotyping when he gets set free.


     
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    Posted: Sep. 2, 2016 - 10:33 AM ET #4

    You know, had he kneeled from the start like he did last night, and simply stated it was for "police injustice" in America and not turned it into a whole Black Lives Matter political stance - everyone would have been fine with that.
    Does he realize there's also corrupt BLACK police officers who are on "paid leave" for brutality, or does he just see the white ones?

    Oh, and Goose, Scal's free.....
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    You know, had he kneeled from the start like he did last night, and simply stated it was for "police injustice" in America and not turned it into a whole Black Lives Matter political stance - everyone would have been fine with that.
    Does he realize there's also corrupt BLACK police officers who are on "paid leave" for brutality, or does he just see the white ones?

    Oh, and Goose, Scal's free.....
     
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    From the Manhatten Institute:
    for the years 2014 and 2015 in the United States.
    There were 18 times as many White police killed,while on duty,by Black civilians as the number of Black civilians killed by White police on duty.
    The War on the Black Man is a War on Police and the rule of Law.
    Numerically who is conducting a War on Who?
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    From the Manhatten Institute:
    for the years 2014 and 2015 in the United States.
    There were 18 times as many White police killed,while on duty,by Black civilians as the number of Black civilians killed by White police on duty.
    The War on the Black Man is a War on Police and the rule of Law.
    Numerically who is conducting a War on Who?
     
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    DEAR RAG ARM QB 

    HOW MANY COMMUNITY CENTERS HAVE YOU BUILT >????

    HOW MANY BUSINESSES HAVE YOU OPENED IN THE INNER CITY ???

    HOW MANY SCHOLARSHIPS have you paid for ???




    BEST OF HEALTH, HAPPINESS,WEALTH, BLESSINGS and LUCK TO ALL !!
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    DEAR RAG ARM QB 

    HOW MANY COMMUNITY CENTERS HAVE YOU BUILT >????

    HOW MANY BUSINESSES HAVE YOU OPENED IN THE INNER CITY ???

    HOW MANY SCHOLARSHIPS have you paid for ???




     
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    The real tragedy is a president that fully supports black victims for being in the right before the facts come in.  

    Black Lies Matter... Never let the facts get in the way of a clever sound bite  such as Black Lives Matter.  Such a false narrative on a national scale.
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    The real tragedy is a president that fully supports black victims for being in the right before the facts come in.  

    Black Lies Matter... Never let the facts get in the way of a clever sound bite  such as Black Lives Matter.  Such a false narrative on a national scale.
     
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    Obama's fault !!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    DEAR RAG ARM QB 

    HOW MANY COMMUNITY CENTERS HAVE YOU BUILT >????

    HOW MANY BUSINESSES HAVE YOU OPENED IN THE INNER CITY ???

    HOW MANY SCHOLARSHIPS have you paid for ???





    I agree with you on this 100%.  It is one thing to make a spectical of yourself and bring attention to an issue and yourself at the same time. 

    It is another thing to actually put your money where your mouth is and make a lick of difference in the real world 
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    HOW MANY SCHOLARSHIPS have you paid for ???





    I agree with you on this 100%.  It is one thing to make a spectical of yourself and bring attention to an issue and yourself at the same time. 

    It is another thing to actually put your money where your mouth is and make a lick of difference in the real world 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    I agree with you on this 100%.  It is one thing to make a spectical of yourself and bring attention to an issue and yourself at the same time. 

    It is another thing to actually put your money where your mouth is and make a lick of difference in the real world 

    I thought we weren't going to talk about Scalabrine anymore? 
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:


    I agree with you on this 100%.  It is one thing to make a spectical of yourself and bring attention to an issue and yourself at the same time. 

    It is another thing to actually put your money where your mouth is and make a lick of difference in the real world 

    I thought we weren't going to talk about Scalabrine anymore? 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

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    HOW MANY BUSINESSES HAVE YOU OPENED IN THE INNER CITY ???

    HOW MANY SCHOLARSHIPS have you paid for ???





    First of all turn off the caps you imbecile and secondly that's called deflection. How do you know Kapernick hasn't done all of the said above? So in your world if you aren't superman you don't have a right to protest? What democracy are you living in? Absolute imbecile. 
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    HOW MANY BUSINESSES HAVE YOU OPENED IN THE INNER CITY ???

    HOW MANY SCHOLARSHIPS have you paid for ???





    First of all turn off the caps you imbecile and secondly that's called deflection. How do you know Kapernick hasn't done all of the said above? So in your world if you aren't superman you don't have a right to protest? What democracy are you living in? Absolute imbecile. 
     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2016 - 2:33 PM ET #12

    1) Has anyone ever read the entire National Anthem ?

    From  The Maryland Historical Society (MdHS), founded on March 1, 1844 (1 year and 2 months after Francis Scott Key dies)
    MdHS is the oldest cultural institution in the U.S. state of Maryland. The society "collects, preserves, and interprets objects and materials reflecting Maryland's diverse heritage." 

    https://www.mdhs.org/digitalimage/star-spangled-banner-handwritten

    The Star Spangled Banner, aka Defense of Fort McHenry
    By Francis Scott Key (1814, US)

     
    Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
    What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?
    Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight,
    O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so galantly streaming?
    And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
    Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there.
    O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

    On the shore dimly seen thro' the mists of the deep,
    Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
    What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
    As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
    Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
    In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream:
    'Tis the star'spangled banner: O, long may it wave
    O'ver the land of the free and the home of the brave!


    And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
    That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
    A home and a country should leave us no more?
    Their blood has wash'd out there foul footsteps' pollution.
    No refuge could save the hireling and slave
    From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.


    O, thus be it ever when freemen shall stand,
    Between their lov'd homes and the war's desolation;
    Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land
    Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserv'd us a nation!
    Then conquer we must, when our cause is just,
    And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

    2) Some slaves joined the British Colonial Marines in 1812 war in exchange for their freedom. in the 3rd paragraph of the Star Spangled Banner, Francis Scott Key  was talking about the slaves who died for their freedom.

    Who was Francis Scott Key ?

     a racist, slave-owning bigot  who once stated that  black people are “a distinct and inferior race of people, which all experience proves to be the greatest evil that afflicts a community.” 

    hmm this guy became a district attorney in 1833.

    According to "Snowstorm in August" by former Washington Post reporter Jefferson Morley 

     the police in Key’s part of town would steal from black people as they wanted, and just disregard their rights like clockwork. One night, they tried to attack this black woman, and she got away, crossed a bridge — then fell off the bridge into the Potomac below, and drowned. She was silently buried (no, her name wasn’t Sandra Bland; wrong century).
    An abolitionist paper wrote, ““There is neither mercy nor justice for colored people in this district. No fuss or stir was made about it. She was got out of the river, and was buried, and there the matter ended.”
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    1) Has anyone ever read the entire National Anthem ?

    From  The Maryland Historical Society (MdHS), founded on March 1, 1844 (1 year and 2 months after Francis Scott Key dies)
    MdHS is the oldest cultural institution in the U.S. state of Maryland. The society "collects, preserves, and interprets objects and materials reflecting Maryland's diverse heritage." 

    https://www.mdhs.org/digitalimage/star-spangled-banner-handwritten

    The Star Spangled Banner, aka Defense of Fort McHenry
    By Francis Scott Key (1814, US)

     
    Oh, say, can you see, by the dawn's early light,
    What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming?
    Whose broad stripes and bright stars, thro' the perilous fight,
    O'er the ramparts we watch'd, were so galantly streaming?
    And the rockets' red glare, the bombs bursting in air,
    Gave proof thro' the night that our flag was still there.
    O say, does that star-spangled banner yet wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave?

    On the shore dimly seen thro' the mists of the deep,
    Where the foe's haughty host in dread silence reposes,
    What is that which the breeze, o'er the towering steep,
    As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
    Now it catches the gleam of the morning's first beam,
    In full glory reflected, now shines on the stream:
    'Tis the star'spangled banner: O, long may it wave
    O'ver the land of the free and the home of the brave!


    And where is that band who so vauntingly swore
    That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
    A home and a country should leave us no more?
    Their blood has wash'd out there foul footsteps' pollution.
    No refuge could save the hireling and slave
    From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave:
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.


    O, thus be it ever when freemen shall stand,
    Between their lov'd homes and the war's desolation;
    Blest with vict'ry and peace, may the heav'n-rescued land
    Praise the Pow'r that hath made and preserv'd us a nation!
    Then conquer we must, when our cause is just,
    And this be our motto: "In God is our trust"
    And the star-spangled banner in triumph shall wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave!

    2) Some slaves joined the British Colonial Marines in 1812 war in exchange for their freedom. in the 3rd paragraph of the Star Spangled Banner, Francis Scott Key  was talking about the slaves who died for their freedom.

    Who was Francis Scott Key ?

     a racist, slave-owning bigot  who once stated that  black people are “a distinct and inferior race of people, which all experience proves to be the greatest evil that afflicts a community.” 

    hmm this guy became a district attorney in 1833.

    According to "Snowstorm in August" by former Washington Post reporter Jefferson Morley 

     the police in Key’s part of town would steal from black people as they wanted, and just disregard their rights like clockwork. One night, they tried to attack this black woman, and she got away, crossed a bridge — then fell off the bridge into the Potomac below, and drowned. She was silently buried (no, her name wasn’t Sandra Bland; wrong century).
    An abolitionist paper wrote, ““There is neither mercy nor justice for colored people in this district. No fuss or stir was made about it. She was got out of the river, and was buried, and there the matter ended.”
     
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    For some twisted reason, this piece of garbage Francis Scott Key writing became the US national anthem .. US can do better than that 

    Colin Kaepernick was born on November 3, 1987 in Milwaukee Wisconsin.
    Some people including Donald Trump say Kaepernick should find a new country.

    where should he go ?

    what about Kaepernick first Amendment right ?

    Black Americans do not have a heritage due to slavery. They're descendants of genocide.
    Where is Kapernick's biological white mother (Heidi Russo)  from ?

    Kaepernick has helped raise almost 1 million for kids with heart problems

    www.kidsheartcamp.org

    https://www.kidsheartcamp.org/#!colin-kaepernick/c13ts

    After years of diligent hard work, determination and a will to prove himself, Colin was drafted to the NFL as a quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers. Upon receiving his first NFL paycheck, Colin asked his parents to find a charity that supports children with heart disease to gift a portion of his first check to. Thus, a friendship was born between Camp Taylor and the Kaepernick family and over the past five years the Camp Taylor family & the Kaepernick family have formed a tight friendship and bond.  Colin often refers to heart campers as "His Kids" and the kids love him!
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    For some twisted reason, this piece of garbage Francis Scott Key writing became the US national anthem .. US can do better than that 

    Colin Kaepernick was born on November 3, 1987 in Milwaukee Wisconsin.
    Some people including Donald Trump say Kaepernick should find a new country.

    where should he go ?

    what about Kaepernick first Amendment right ?

    Black Americans do not have a heritage due to slavery. They're descendants of genocide.
    Where is Kapernick's biological white mother (Heidi Russo)  from ?

    Kaepernick has helped raise almost 1 million for kids with heart problems

    www.kidsheartcamp.org

    https://www.kidsheartcamp.org/#!colin-kaepernick/c13ts

    After years of diligent hard work, determination and a will to prove himself, Colin was drafted to the NFL as a quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers. Upon receiving his first NFL paycheck, Colin asked his parents to find a charity that supports children with heart disease to gift a portion of his first check to. Thus, a friendship was born between Camp Taylor and the Kaepernick family and over the past five years the Camp Taylor family & the Kaepernick family have formed a tight friendship and bond.  Colin often refers to heart campers as "His Kids" and the kids love him!
     
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    San Francisco 49ers star Colin Kaepernick is putting his money where his mouth is — pledging to donate $1 million to community organizations Thursday.

    Kaepernick's anthem protest spread as the quarterback was joined by teammate Eric Reid in taking a knee before their preseason game against the Chargers. Seahawks cornerback Jeremy Lane also sat during the national anthem before his team's preseason game against the Raiders Thursday.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/colin-kaepernick-pledges-1-million-charity-anthem-protest-spreads-n641886
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    San Francisco 49ers star Colin Kaepernick is putting his money where his mouth is — pledging to donate $1 million to community organizations Thursday.

    Kaepernick's anthem protest spread as the quarterback was joined by teammate Eric Reid in taking a knee before their preseason game against the Chargers. Seahawks cornerback Jeremy Lane also sat during the national anthem before his team's preseason game against the Raiders Thursday.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/news/sports/colin-kaepernick-pledges-1-million-charity-anthem-protest-spreads-n641886
     
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    Posted: Sep. 3, 2016 - 4:09 PM ET #15

    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

     

    Some people including Donald Trump say Kaepernick should find a new country.

    where should he go ?


     


    That is out of context.......... Trump said maybe he should ..not he should ..what he essentially said was Kaepernick would not be able to find a country ,that would be better for him than here in America.............and Trump is right.

    "I think it’s a terrible thing, and you know, maybe he should find a country that works better for him, let him try, it’s not gonna happen."
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

     

    Some people including Donald Trump say Kaepernick should find a new country.

    where should he go ?


     


    That is out of context.......... Trump said maybe he should ..not he should ..what he essentially said was Kaepernick would not be able to find a country ,that would be better for him than here in America.............and Trump is right.

    "I think it’s a terrible thing, and you know, maybe he should find a country that works better for him, let him try, it’s not gonna happen."
     
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    islp2003, I see you have no problem calling Francis Scott Key a racist and a bigot for saying "  black people are “a distinct and inferior race of people, which all experience proves to be the greatest evil that afflicts a community.”

    Where is your out rage for Hillary Clinton
    who has called black teens or black kids super predators ?

    I think we know why ....
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    islp2003, I see you have no problem calling Francis Scott Key a racist and a bigot for saying "  black people are “a distinct and inferior race of people, which all experience proves to be the greatest evil that afflicts a community.”

    Where is your out rage for Hillary Clinton
    who has called black teens or black kids super predators ?

    I think we know why ....
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    That is out of context.......... Trump said maybe he should ..not he should ..what he essentially said was Kaepernick would not be able to find a country ,that would be better for him than here in America.............and Trump is right.

    "I think it’s a terrible thing, and you know, maybe he should find a country that works better for him, let him try, it’s not gonna happen."

    what is out of context ?

    That's what Trump said during  the Dori Monson Show

    Trump is a presidential candidate who does not respect Kaepernick first amendment

    what did Trump have to say about police brutality ?

    Trump also promises veterans that he will fight people like Colin Kaepernick

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:



    That is out of context.......... Trump said maybe he should ..not he should ..what he essentially said was Kaepernick would not be able to find a country ,that would be better for him than here in America.............and Trump is right.

    "I think it’s a terrible thing, and you know, maybe he should find a country that works better for him, let him try, it’s not gonna happen."

    what is out of context ?

    That's what Trump said during  the Dori Monson Show

    Trump is a presidential candidate who does not respect Kaepernick first amendment

    what did Trump have to say about police brutality ?

    Trump also promises veterans that he will fight people like Colin Kaepernick

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    islp2003, I see you have no problem calling Francis Scott Key a
    racist and a bigot for saying "  black people are “a distinct and inferior race of people, which all experience proves to be the greatest evil that afflicts a community.”

    Where is your out rage for Hillary Clinton
    who has called black teens or black kids super predators ?

    I think we know why ....

    During an 18-minute interview with reporters on Sunday, Kaepernick blasted https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/colin-kaepernick-ill-keep-sitting-for-anthem-until-meaningful-change-occurs/ in the problems that he says America is currently facing.

    "I think the two presidential candidates that we currently have also represent the issues that we have in this country right now," Kaepernick said. "You have Hillary [Clinton], who has called black teens or black kids super predators. You have Donald Trump, who is openly racist."


    Here is more for you

    https://nypost.com/2016/03/01/clinton-confronted-for-calling-black-kids-super-predators/


    Why do you think Bernie Sanders was so popular ?


    why do you think Hillary lost against Obama ?

    She is as bad as Trump but you can't compare her to Francis Scott Key . Both are racist but Key is on another level 


    Just because there is no thread about it does not mean Hillary is getting away with it  


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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    islp2003, I see you have no problem calling Francis Scott Key a
    racist and a bigot for saying "  black people are “a distinct and inferior race of people, which all experience proves to be the greatest evil that afflicts a community.”

    Where is your out rage for Hillary Clinton
    who has called black teens or black kids super predators ?

    I think we know why ....

    During an 18-minute interview with reporters on Sunday, Kaepernick blasted https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/colin-kaepernick-ill-keep-sitting-for-anthem-until-meaningful-change-occurs/ in the problems that he says America is currently facing.

    "I think the two presidential candidates that we currently have also represent the issues that we have in this country right now," Kaepernick said. "You have Hillary [Clinton], who has called black teens or black kids super predators. You have Donald Trump, who is openly racist."


    Here is more for you

    https://nypost.com/2016/03/01/clinton-confronted-for-calling-black-kids-super-predators/


    Why do you think Bernie Sanders was so popular ?


    why do you think Hillary lost against Obama ?

    She is as bad as Trump but you can't compare her to Francis Scott Key . Both are racist but Key is on another level 


    Just because there is no thread about it does not mean Hillary is getting away with it  


     
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    Here's the excerpt of the interview from from KIRO-AM in Seattle (via MyNorthwest.com)

    Dori: "Are you following 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refusing to stand for the anthem? He had bad things to say about both you and Hillary."

    Trump: "I have followed it and I think it's personally not a good thing, I think it's a terrible thing. And maybe he should find a country that works better for him, let him try. It won't happen."

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    Here's the excerpt of the interview from from KIRO-AM in Seattle (via MyNorthwest.com)

    Dori: "Are you following 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refusing to stand for the anthem? He had bad things to say about both you and Hillary."

    Trump: "I have followed it and I think it's personally not a good thing, I think it's a terrible thing. And maybe he should find a country that works better for him, let him try. It won't happen."

     
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    it's a terrible thing to exercise 1st amendment right.
    There are also veterans for Kaepernick 
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    it's a terrible thing to exercise 1st amendment right.
    There are also veterans for Kaepernick 
     
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    Lol.  Please don't confuse the trump fanboys with reality and facts 
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    Lol.  Please don't confuse the trump fanboys with reality and facts 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DoubleUp4Life:

    DEAR RAG ARM QB 

    HOW MANY COMMUNITY CENTERS HAVE YOU BUILT >????

    HOW MANY BUSINESSES HAVE YOU OPENED IN THE INNER CITY ???

    HOW MANY SCHOLARSHIPS have you paid for ???









    how many times have you been on CAPS LOCK?

    kaep is donating 1 million dollars
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    DEAR RAG ARM QB 

    HOW MANY COMMUNITY CENTERS HAVE YOU BUILT >????

    HOW MANY BUSINESSES HAVE YOU OPENED IN THE INNER CITY ???

    HOW MANY SCHOLARSHIPS have you paid for ???









    how many times have you been on CAPS LOCK?

    kaep is donating 1 million dollars
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    Why do you think Bernie Sanders was so popular ?

    Because, many younger people embraced socialism and wanted free college ?

    why do you think Hillary lost against Obama ?

    Because,Hillary like Francis Scott Key is a racist?

    She is as bad as Trump but you can't compare her to Francis Scott Key . Both are racist but Key is on another level

    You say both are racist ..but till I pointed it out you didn't include her in your initial post about FS Key.

    Just because there is no thread about it does not mean Hillary is getting away with it  

    lol ,,,only after the fact did you included Hillary ..||fingershake.gif' border=0>

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    Why do you think Bernie Sanders was so popular ?

    Because, many younger people embraced socialism and wanted free college ?

    why do you think Hillary lost against Obama ?

    Because,Hillary like Francis Scott Key is a racist?

    She is as bad as Trump but you can't compare her to Francis Scott Key . Both are racist but Key is on another level

    You say both are racist ..but till I pointed it out you didn't include her in your initial post about FS Key.

    Just because there is no thread about it does not mean Hillary is getting away with it  

    lol ,,,only after the fact did you included Hillary ..||fingershake.gif' border=0>

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    Here's the excerpt of the interview from from KIRO-AM in Seattle (via MyNorthwest.com)

    Dori: "Are you following 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refusing to stand for the anthem? He had bad things to say about both you and Hillary."

    Trump: "I have followed it and I think it's personally not a good thing, I think it's a terrible thing. And maybe he should find a country that works better for him, let him try. It won't happen."




    I already posted his statement before you did ,, in post #15..but not with the larger front ...why would I need to see the interview quote ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    Here's the excerpt of the interview from from KIRO-AM in Seattle (via MyNorthwest.com)

    Dori: "Are you following 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick refusing to stand for the anthem? He had bad things to say about both you and Hillary."

    Trump: "I have followed it and I think it's personally not a good thing, I think it's a terrible thing. And maybe he should find a country that works better for him, let him try. It won't happen."




    I already posted his statement before you did ,, in post #15..but not with the larger front ...why would I need to see the interview quote ?
     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by ilsp2003:

    it's a terrible thing to exercise 1st amendment right.
    There are also veterans for Kaepernick 


    Yeah, that's why he got off sitting on his azz on bench during the Anthem and dropped to his knees ..Nate Boyer,a military vet advised him sitting wasn't a good thing .. too disrespectful..1st Amendment right or not.
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    it's a terrible thing to exercise 1st amendment right.
    There are also veterans for Kaepernick 


    Yeah, that's why he got off sitting on his azz on bench during the Anthem and dropped to his knees ..Nate Boyer,a military vet advised him sitting wasn't a good thing .. too disrespectful..1st Amendment right or not.
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