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Quote Originally Posted by mainman11111:

the odds of a syrian refugee baby becoming a doctor is higher than a militias baby

the odds of a syrian refugee baby becoming a congressmen is higher than a militias baby

the odds of a syrian refugee baby becoming a lawyer is higher than a militias baby...

think about it
5 days into year and you are front running for fuc ktard of the year.  Which OP has won a record 7 years in a row.
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^hell yes!
 
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the force awakens... u better awaken too!!!
 
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Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

the government took their land they used  graze cattle made it a refuge
I know WHY they're doing it............but they can't honestly believe they're going to win their land back with these actions.
 
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no but desperate ppl do insane things every day. its the way of things when ppl believe they are free.
reality the government plays the music we all dance like puppets on a string
but these men felt they could challenge the authority of the feds
they will crushed like ants against a steam roller but they are least doing something then being herded like sheep to the mutton grinder.
 
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mainman, I'm not clear on what you're saying. 

These refuge holding grown men are are criminals. Do you understand that?? The Bundy squad is smartly cooperating and going back to jail to serve additional sentence.. Reason being they are arsonists/liars. and that judge has considered more compelling evidence demanding more jail time. Simple as that. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

I know WHY they're doing it............but they can't honestly believe they're going to win their land back with these actions.

That's the big question mugg that I think determines where this all ends up. A hopeless bunch can become frothing violent when all hope breaks down. Hopefully they quit next 24. 
I think they are in for a long stance to make a statement for land rights. Hope I'm wrong but guessing that was their intention from the opening whistle. Media will set up shop just like they did in Waco after another week - bad guys know it.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

mainman, I'm not clear on what you're saying. 

These refuge holding grown men are are criminals. Do you understand that?? The Bundy squad is smartly cooperating and going back to jail to serve additional sentence.. Reason being they are arsonists/liars. and that judge has considered more compelling evidence demanding more jail time. Simple as that. 
welcome to America our country was founded on act of treason. we were smugglers tax evaders and rabble in arms . we declared independence signed our death warrants and went to war. because the rabble in arms felt they had no voice in government.

However, England didn't possess an a10 wart hog or predature drone.
If the national media didn't show up these men would be a by line in yesterdays news paper. Something like 5 domestic armed terrorists killed in police stand off somewhere it nowhere Oregon.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:


That's the big question mugg that I think determines where this all ends up. A hopeless bunch can become frothing violent when all hope breaks down. Hopefully they quit next 24. 
I think they are in for a long stance to make a statement for land rights. Hope I'm wrong but guessing that was their intention from the opening whistle. Media will set up shop just like they did in Waco after another week - bad guys know it.


Waco showed what the democrat in office is capable of , that one was decided by a m1 abram. this one though I don't see going that way. theirs no wall or fortified position no automatic weapons no grenades, this is just men with what looks like 30-30's and a tower.
I see more of a sleeping gas and arrests here the army likes to try out toys and the new gas is non toxic.
but this is a exec descision Obama will sign off on personally because no one is taking lead at the local or state level. after all its federal land its a matter for the feds.
 
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media will ignore these idiots.

yes theyre idiots.
 
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korean nuke , china economy, obama exec orders, iran/saudi , nfl playoffs all making front page. oregon will take a back page. no one cares about attention grabbing idiots

they got this. media is smarter than this
 
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^ Exactly.
Nobody goes in any longer including media, ever because the next thing that happens women and children enter that structure. Initiate negotiation with no other options other than complete surrender. No cooperation then blitz them.
End this crap now. They will NOT shoot back unless they have leverage. They have none currently.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

^ Exactly.
Nobody goes in any longer including media, ever because the next thing that happens women and children enter that structure. Initiate negotiation with no other options other than complete surrender. No cooperation then blitz them.
End this crap now. They will NOT shoot back unless they have leverage. They have none currently.
 
this one interests me. the government has all kinds of capabilities to completely destroy these ppl.  and these men should already be martrs for soldier fortune to all the militias and all the other anti fed groups going.
but what interests me is what will happen its winter under siege with only a few supplys oil heat food water can the government have the back bone just wait till they surrender from want.
 
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^ true.
Surrender immediatly. place your guns on the deck and walk out in a single file line. Negotiate a misd charge and hope to hell they take that under consideration. 
Longer they stay, longer they spend time in jail. Good people that have an ongoing legitimate complaint but this plan has ruined all of their lives. IMO>
 
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Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

^ true.
Surrender immediatly. place your guns on the deck and walk out in a single file line. Negotiate a misd charge and hope to hell they take that under consideration. 
Longer they stay, longer they spend time in jail. Good people that have an ongoing legitimate complaint but this plan has ruined all of their lives. IMO>

their lives are ruined and the government will never give the land back now a principle to stop future problems. but can the government just allow them to realize its over or do they have to step up and decide its over.
then if they do step up will they do this non lethally I mean show the brigade of black suits and Taser and tranquilizer darts vs swat tactics and full metal gear.
there benching this stance on a wild life refuge and the protection of the animals .
 
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Govt will end it peacefully I hope... and they will not lose the land. 
Start by not allowing anybody in or out. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

I will concede that the building was uninhibited.

Oh, good Lawed -- with 150+ gun-toting men running around up there in the freezing cold with no women around, one can only imagine what a cold, "uninhibited" building would do!

LOL.
 
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https://www.google.com/maps/@43.2654194,-118.8426207,347m/data=!3m1!1e3

easy just one road. not enough snow for a snowmobile too much for a wheeler. shut down the grid block the route. knock out gas extract .

 
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The Harney County Sheriff is holding a meeting at the county fairgrounds at 4:00 today .  He wants the whole community to attend.  While the gun-toting ranchers have told him residents are behind them, the sheriff wants to hear that from them.
 
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to put it all in perspective he is asking 7100 residents in a land mass twice the size of Connecticut to show up and attend a meeting. to understand what his district believes. 4pm pacific time. so in about six hours.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by searchwarrant:

....Every single one of these jackases is looking at a felony when they sober up. 
I (we) don't like a million things about the Fed govt but I don't grab my gun and create a siege. Bunch of selfish hicks that are no longer law abiding citizens. I feel sorry for their children and families that won't see daddy for 5 - 10 years. 
Stupid, dumb and idiotic. 
At no point would you ever do this for any reason? Or just not for this reason? 
 
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'GO HOME'

Harney County Sheriff David Ward told a packed community meeting in Burns on Wednesday that the protesters had hijacked a peaceful rally and needed to leave now.

"Go home. Work your differences with whoever out through the appropriate channels, and let us get back to our lives as we live them here," Ward said to applause.

"I don't want to see a single person hurt. ... In fact, when I wake up tomorrow, I want to have pleasant thoughts about you - that you did the right thing, that you packed your bags, and you went home."

 
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https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/06/us/native-tribe-blasts-oregon-takeover/index.html
 
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Quote Originally Posted by mainman11111:

https://www.cnn.com/2016/01/06/us/native-tribe-blasts-oregon-takeover/index.html

the tribe has a point the feds will never give the land back they bought it from the French and it is theirs. the souix will never have the black hills back. the ranchers will not have the grazing with out paying land use lease fees it won't happen.

this is PUPLIC land and they are trespassing. if you cant see the irony in that statement I don't know what else to say.

but fighting the us military in open field with rifles is suicide.
anyone who feels this is possible I give you gulf 1 they destroyed a Brigade of tanks of roughly 1000 vehicals in 10 minutes. while the Iraq elite guard flanked with artillery and infantry and sat in the open in a desert without air support. this entire collum of tanks vehicals and personal anti aircraft artillery was vaporized to scrap metal and skeletons in 10 minutes.


 
 
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put this another way they estimate the complete destruction of all north Korean armament's in the dmz at around 23 minutes without with all assault every quarter of n. korea in around 27 hours.
with out using nuclear capabilities sucks because n. korea will completely destroy city of Seole s korea in 14 minutes of that time frame but that is the general agreed timeline.
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