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https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/canada-supreme-court-oks-edible-medical-marijuana

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Read an article about increased spikes in ER visits from pot edibles. People just don't know how much THC they're consuming.
 
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Yes... this is true.  

One good thing is that even though they think they are in danger, they never really are.  They always go home from the hospital.  

2.5 million people a year worldwide die from alcohol.  They go to the hospital, then straight to the morgue.

People just need to use caution with edibles... just like they do with alcohol or anything else.



 
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And you know as well as I do Search that when that happens (about .0001% of the time they are consumed), the media will take it and make sure everyone hears about it.

There's a ton of propaganda and lies out there.  It's unfortunate that the public is force fed the stuff, and the masses don't have the time to sift through it.  It really is an overstated problem.  This weekend, we'll see about 1,000 people in the U.S. die directly due to alcohol use, and zero from using the Herb.

 
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exactly. Nobody dies, they just have outer body experiences an walk out of the ER embarrassed.
 
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Media is on opposite side from what I can tell.  They seem very pro-marijuana.  
So, because alcohol can be abused more and/could be more dangerous --- you use this for a reason to support something else also being legal because it is less dangerous than the other. Seems like opposite could/should be equally applied using that logic. 
Obviously MJ can be addictive, maybe more psychologically than physically.  For some people it has also been a gateway drug. And in some studies they have proven it to have long term side effects. 
Not even sure I am against it. Just pointing out, as we have discussed before, both sides have decent points. 
Freedom points aside, it always amazes me the number of people that feel obligated to get high or drunk just to take the edge off or relax. Life itself is not enough for these folks.  But even they are antsy about people being able to use stronger stuff or even cigarettes that have been proven to have ill-effects on a person. 
 
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Mmmm pot pancakes with maple syrup   
 
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Actually, alcohol has nothing to do with why I feel legalization is the answer.  I just like to point out the hypocrisy... none of it makes any sense.

For some it's a gateway, but for most it's not.  The gateway theory is actually nothing more than a myth.  There is nothing in pot that makes people want heroin or cocaine.  Truth be told, most hard drug users tried alcohol and/or tobacco before going on to the hard drugs.

I think we drink or do other drugs simply because it's fun.  People enjoy it.  I don't think we feel "obligated".  I smoke for many reasons.  I used to drink to simply have a good time.  Now I don't.  I smoke to feel good.  I smoke to feel better (I have cancer).  I smoke because I know it's safe.  I smoke because many studies have shown it can help prevent disease.  I smoke because it relieves stress.  I smoke because it makes me happy.

As for long term side effects, there aren't any.  Some will argue that, but I've done enough research.  There aren't any.

  
 
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https://www.personalhealthzone.com/marijuanasideeffects.html

Yes. Medical use aside. As I have said before there have been studies showing there are short and long term effects.  Some folks do become dependent.  I have known people to lose great jobs because they could not quit smoking. Sure it always seems people are hypocritical when they drink and don't want you to smoke. What about the people that don't do either and point out the bad effects of either.  Sure drink, cigs, MJ, all can be gateway for some.  Never claim MJ had bad effects on ALL folks or alcohol or cigs etc.  
for example some people always say their grandad drank and smoked everyday until he dies at 90---never had a problem.  The point is you don't know how it might affect YOU. You could be in one of the affected categories. 
Sure. I understand it makes you 'feel good'. Just as alcohol, cigs relieve stress, light pain pills help.  All of that stuff.  My point is why do folks have to do those sorts of things at all to relieve stress it 'feel good'. 
I think to a large extent both sides simply interpret studies and choose to see it the way that supports their opinion. 
But there are various studies I'm sure you have seen. For example. Why would they think a pregnant woman shouldn't use a 'plant'. Or why would folks think smoking might not have effects on lungs later.  Etc etc. I am just saying I don't think this should be dismissed out of hand. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by SteelCash:

Actually, alcohol has nothing to do with why I feel legalization is the answer.  I just like to point out the hypocrisy... none of it makes any sense.

For some it's a gateway, but for most it's not.  The gateway theory is actually nothing more than a myth.  There is nothing in pot that makes people want heroin or cocaine.  Truth be told, most hard drug users tried alcohol and/or tobacco before going on to the hard drugs.

I think we drink or do other drugs simply because it's fun.  People enjoy it.  I don't think we feel "obligated".  I smoke for many reasons.  I used to drink to simply have a good time.  Now I don't.  I smoke to feel good.  I smoke to feel better (I have cancer).  I smoke because I know it's safe.  I smoke because many studies have shown it can help prevent disease.  I smoke because it relieves stress.  I smoke because it makes me happy.

As for long term side effects, there aren't any.  Some will argue that, but I've done enough research.  There aren't any.

  

Not to mention we spend a huge amount of time and money for arrest, prosecution, jailing that we could have spent it on hardcore criminals.

 
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Yep. That's true as well. 
 
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But about Canada... this ruling is huge.  So many people out there with sickness and disease, and now all they have to do is drink a tea or have a piece of chocolate in lieu of popping poisonous pharma pills by the dozens.  It won't be long before this nation's face of medicine has a completely different look.  

A large majority I believe have no idea what this plant can do... the miracles it can perform.  They'll find out, and then they'll realize how many life years could have been saved by this medicine.  Billions of years over the past 7-8 decades.


 
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:

https://www.personalhealthzone.com/marijuanasideeffects.html

Yes. Medical use aside. As I have said before there have been studies showing there are short and long term effects.  Some folks do become dependent.  I have known people to lose great jobs because they could not quit smoking. Sure it always seems people are hypocritical when they drink and don't want you to smoke. What about the people that don't do either and point out the bad effects of either.  Sure drink, cigs, MJ, all can be gateway for some.  Never claim MJ had bad effects on ALL folks or alcohol or cigs etc.  
for example some people always say their grandad drank and smoked everyday until he dies at 90---never had a problem.  The point is you don't know how it might affect YOU. You could be in one of the affected categories. 
Sure. I understand it makes you 'feel good'. Just as alcohol, cigs relieve stress, light pain pills help.  All of that stuff.  My point is why do folks have to do those sorts of things at all to relieve stress it 'feel good'. 
I think to a large extent both sides simply interpret studies and choose to see it the way that supports their opinion. 
But there are various studies I'm sure you have seen. For example. Why would they think a pregnant woman shouldn't use a 'plant'. Or why would folks think smoking might not have effects on lungs later.  Etc etc. I am just saying I don't think this should be dismissed out of hand. 

That's not a problem of addiction necessarily, it's a problem of drug policy.  When people lose their jobs because they get randomly tested and fail, it's because this nation is infatuated with drug testing and monitoring people like they're little children.  99% of the smokers out there smoke 1-3 times a week and function just fine.  That is until they walk into work and someone hands them a cup.  That said, you are correct.  A small percentage do get psychologically addicted.

The hypocrisy I was speaking of is the legality of alcohol and the illegality of a safer substance.  I don't care what people put in their bodies, and I don't care if they think I'm harming mine.  

Some people do drink and smoke a lot and live to be 90.  That is correct.  But most don't.  And most of them suffer horribly as a result during their final years.  But ask a pot smoker of 40+ years if he's had any ill effects from it.  There are many out there that do not drink or use tobacco, and they are just fine.  

The plant's cannabinoids do not cause disease.  A Cannabis user that doesn't drink or smoke cigs will usually live a long healthy life all things being equal i.e. diet and exercise.  There really are no negative long term or short term health effects as far as I can tell, and I've researched this heavily.  I've been reading about this plant nearly every day for four years now.

I've seen studies that claim the risk of this or that, but they always use words like "possible" or "may increase risk".  Yet people have been smoking this for centuries, and the bodies aren't piling up.  

I'll change my mind when I hear of a person that died from using too much, or contracted a deadly disease from the use.  It has never happened to my knowledge.  

  
 
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As for pregnant women... children are healthier if the mother smokes weed during pregnancy.

https://thejointblog.com/reminder-mothers-marijuana-use-appears-to-drastically-reduce-infant-mortality/

Jamaica did the largest study of its kind on this very subject and found that Cannabis use during pregnancy has no ill effects.  In fact, the children whose mothers smoked Cannabis excelled in certain areas better than the children whose mothers had not smoked Cannabis during pregnancy.

It's actually common knowledge among experts that Cannabis use poses no threat to the unborn infant.  Pregnant women have been smoking weed for decades with no resulting birth defects.

 
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We won't agree on everything, but it's been a good discussion.

 
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This Court victory is limited to medical patients.  In Canada, marijuana is only legal when authorized by doctor and comes from licensed suppliers.   For patients in chronic pain, ingesting cannabis edibles may be better than smoking.  But labelling will be necessary to prevent overdoses. 
 
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Correct.

I'm not sure of the medical conditions that qualify.  Now I'm curious.

 
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The fact that u cannot overdose resulting in death speaks to safety.

People will insist on going beyond that simple fact to create an argument but when you are talking simple public safety there is simply no comparison.

You can compare the long term and short term effects of addictive substances like alcohol, nicotine and others, but based public safety facts are facts
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